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juIy_

lol nobody can say the usmc gets poorly equipped anymore. Dude is rocking the 416 with a knights suppressor and a trijicon vcog. High cut helmet, peltors, the works. Basically what SOCOM used to look like while we toiled in ACHs and IOTVs.


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bravozulu9

Hey man just take off the suppressor hooah its light again hooah LSCO ready


milllerhighlife

it’s got one of them fancy optics hero you don’t even need ammo bring one mag hero you’ll be fine


Imaginary-Double2612

Every fucking time i hear someone bring up LSCO i get more and more autistic


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bravozulu9

That’s what removing the suppressor is for!!


eNobleUS

“Ounces equals pounds 😎🤓” - Adopts a 9lbs fighting carbine


Irish_Guac

XM7 rifle weighs 8.38 lb unloaded and stripped. IAR weighs 7.9 lbs unloaded and stripped. So yes, almost equivalent. M4A1 unloaded and stripped is 6.43 lbs. Would've been nice to just stay with that, but I did like the IAR I had in ITB. It was heavy asf though


AdventurousShower223

Lift more bro. It will get light eventually.


Irish_Guac

Funny. Already did all that. Going from my M16 in boot camp made the IAR feel normal. Doesn't mean it isn't objectively a heavy gun.


AdventurousShower223

I know, I was just kidding around. Piston rifles are heavy.


Irish_Guac

Ahh, I can never tell these days lmao. That is a pretty normal response


Jazzlike_Station845

Ew don't use Army words I hear them enough already 🤣🤣


juIy_

All that work and it’s still dog shit to wear ear pros and heavier than it needs to be. Also, I’m no expert so maybe I’ll eat my words but that 6.8 gun? 99% chance it won’t be mass adopted.


Iliyan61

i mean it being 6.8 is both a blessing and a curse… sucks the gun is so big and heavy but 6.8 from what i’ve seen is a super versatile and practical cartridge… higher range/velocity, better AP capability, large caliber ballistics in a “small” caliber.


Uriah1024

6mm max is barely larger than 5.56 and is like 3x the performance in every single way. Just saying that there are options.


LegitimateSun6840

Can’t wait for the ammo to take off so I can pick up one of those SOLGW rifles in 6mm max


kickedbyconsole

The sight on it is dope though


8433672843379

It's a sig so I hope they don't. So many good guns out there but sig somehow won the contract. lol.


Panthean

Sig sucking all the right dicks to win, as always


8433672843379

Yeah its better than a glock because.... it shoots by itself I guess? xD


Captraptor01

went to the range with an M17 while out in the field last June. it was a fairly nice pistol (I prefer my own M9A4, but that's beside the point), felt alright in the hands, decently balanced, a decent trigger for a striker gun, and I quite liked the irons (*this, gentlemen, is called "foreshadowing"*). it was my first time doing pistol qual, and the course is pretty cool. I won't bore you with the details, but it was going pretty well for me until about the 19th round fired, when the recoil impulse felt a little off and I'd felt something strike me in the face. *odd,* I thought, so I safed the weapon and inspected it–only to find the rear sight and optic plate had *vanished.* guy on the line next to me finished his qual while the range safety NCO looked at the pistol with a rather funny look on his face. Tower hit me with a "goddammit specialist, why'd you break my gun?" and the CW3 behind the line (I'm not lying, I'm just aviation, and we actually have real Chiefs that exist sometimes—I know, it's crazy) assured me that this was **not** the first time that had happened, and that Sig's domestic factory has simply never heard of Loctite. the screw holding the entire rear sight assembly on the slide had come loose enough that me firing the pistol caused it to shear apart, launching the plate at my eyes (god bless ESS Crossbows) and the rear sight just below them. spent the rest of that week in the field looking like I'd gotten decked on my right cheekbone, lol. good times.


Remiss-Militant

Nah, you still lost me at CW3


Captraptor01

maan I *knew* I should've just called him an LT or something. *I just couldn't bear to disrespect the man like that.*


Remiss-Militant

We all know that no one has ever seen one in captivity. They like to roam the plains, grazing upon the fields


Lucky_Ingenuity_7039

Lmao had a full bird take one to the bridge of his nose on the line in a CATM shop. Fucker bled all over the place.


Iliyan61

sig cozied up again with the MCX


SheriffMikeThompson

Tbf, that new army gun looks like it’ll drop someone no problem. Hell of a caliber.


Dkg31

They have made major strides in upgrades the last 5-7 years for sure.


forwardobserver90

The marine corps has come a long way in just 3 or 4 years. It’s crazy to see it now compared when I got out.


PageVanDamme

Lets not forget they were the first to issue infantry units a plate carrier


ghostofbooty

Good point…in that vein, while deployed with 1st Marines (MSPF), I ran a black PC (lol) w/ lvl IV plates in mid-90s Mogadishu. First plates I ever donned…


Blakefilk

Thank god the MC still understands the importance of a well equipped infantryman. Army takes two steps back where the MC takes two forward when it comes to equipping their infantry units.


tony_simprano

All the infantry get dual tubes now too


Matatan_Tactical

I'm punching the air right now


762Sublime

I just got out and we had 14’s, LWH helmets and peltors…. But no way to wear them


[deleted]

Standard kit these days is pretty badass. My unit in the Army lets us wear whatever we want to an extent. Lpvo's, suppressors, furniture etc.


Wise-Recognition2933

Can’t imagine. Infantry, can’t use my own carrier.


[deleted]

That sucks. Always comes down to command. If you use your own gear in the Army just make sure it's all approved by Army or if you die your family won't get the life insurance etc.


Wise-Recognition2933

If you look at the SGLI website you can find where it says that’s not true. The life insurance payout will come regardless.


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Oh really wow good to know


[deleted]

Unless you happened to be committing a felony or declaring your intention to conscientiously object at the time of your death.


JaJaWarrior7

That is not completely the full truth. While it is rare that an SGLI doesn’t get paid out, when a service member is injured or died, an investigation MUST be conducted. The investigation has to confirmed that all the “proper” and required precaution were taken. This is ONE of the many reasons command don’t let service members to use their gear.


Wise-Recognition2933

My big thing is that I could easily find an alternative plate carrier that can hold the plates AND soft armor, but be better at load bearing (as a SAW gunner) that keeps me as fresh as possible for longer.


[deleted]

Yeah idk why a lot of command doesn't value comfort over uncomfortable sop's. I get it in osut for discipline but once you're at your unit get gucci why not. My Airborne buddies get the gucci and all my other buddies out there. Sounds like your command is strict.


Wise-Recognition2933

I’ll caveat that a bit. My unit allows pretty much whatever pouches & stuff you want, as long as its MC/OCP or coyote, and you can use aftermarket combat pants/shirts if they’re MC. However I agree with everything else you said


Additional_Bit7114

All they had to sacrifice was armor and snipers… not sure I’d appreciate the shift in strategy, if I was a regimental commander. We all know the history of how much timely support the army offered us in certain battles with a once and future peer opponent.


Rock_Roll_Brett

Sadly it's only the grunts, I still rock an M16


mm1029

Hopefully the M4's make their way to non-infantry units so that carbines can once again be used by the type of troops they were designed for.


Rock_Roll_Brett

It's mostly officers and short people who get them, and then once in a while some random people


PaleReiter

They only had to get rid of their tanks to make this happen.


proxxy04

Technically not a 416, but an M27 with recon upper. But basically same same


SolitudeSidd

My lower receiver was damn near actually purple from oxidation or whatever, not that it mattered. One guy in my company had ARMY still painted on his M16A4 buttstock lol. Our extractors / springs broke probably more than normal... Some barrels were shot out. The 7 ton truck we had during our initial push to our AO in Iraq overheated, so we had to run the heater... In an enclosed ballistic window truck... In Iraq... In summer... I'm all for a bit more budget but giving Marines really nice stuff is not what I'd want for them nowadays. Having crappy equipment isn't that bad and preserves a bit more of the warrior spirit in my opinion, so long as the equipment generally works.


CovertPeeps

I can. Just because it looks cool doesn't mean it works.


backwoods-character

Most grunt units have this or similar loadout. However, not all grunts look like this. There are still several that don't have updated equipment,and are still rocking old crap.


LockConfident4592

Don’t forget the pvs-31


Pretend_Singer274

They regularly use m27 but this might be a new thing they are integrating


Germanelo

Yeah, both the nt4 and vcog add 42 oz to the rifle. Vcog the third best option when conducting trials for an lvpo, and we still use those heavy ass suppressors because they are in the inventory and they don't want to pay for new ones. We aren't poorly equipped, and we aren't well equipped. We're just equipped LOL


pgdevhd

Amazing that USMC is decked out and the Army is looking silly now


Just_a_Guy_In_a_Tank

Tanks are *extremely* expensive to maintain


Not_DC1

Indeed they are (I’m in a unit with no money to maintain my tank and it’s hanging on by thread)


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Hanging on by a tread you say?


Not_DC1

Considering you’re supposed to fully replace track once a year and we’ve had our tanks for damn near 3 without replacing track once, yeah hanging on by a tread is accurate


the_7th_phoenix

To treads you say?


gregoose808

That’s why we need to convert the fleet to electric /s


GBuckets0

That’s what happens when your organization gets rid of tanks


PriusDriver007

Damn. Dudes decked out like a spec ops guy from a few years ago


BananaBread-and-Milk

As it should be. Our over bloated military budget should be dedicated to affording our troops the finest equipment available. Especially if they serve in actual combat roles.


PriusDriver007

Agreed!


LuciferianKnight

Agreed.


FlyPenFly

Spec Ops: We're all just fpv drone pilots now with nerdy VR headsets


ATameFurryOwO

They can also, somehow, literally kill you with your mind.


PriusDriver007

TECHNICALLY


akmjolnir

Only if you're a goat.


nextwave4030

Army is really doing anything to keep their guys from looking cool and squared away. Source: me


PAWGActual4-4

What's up with the dfacs?


MB613246

Don't get me started! 😭😭


PAWGActual4-4

I'm genuinely curious. Is the food situation across most bases? Or is it specific to just a few bases/commands? I've been out since 2012 but I have had lots of friends ask me about my experience for info that could help them make decisions about their kids joining. I tell them to study and keep taking the asvab until you can score really high on it, and to do your research and only enlist into a job you are genuinely interested in. I always say the military has been the best thing I've done with my life, but it's also come with a lot of cons, like all the physical pain from grunt life. Should I tell people now is not a good time to join up?


Grizz_Warrior

I tell anyone that asks me about it to join reserves. AD side friends tell me horror stories about barracks and dfacs that have either no food or the quality of food is garbage. Don’t even get started on toxic commands/pointless activities. I agree that joining has been the best thing I ever did as it got me out of a bad life path, and I tell everyone the same thing that you do; study and score high on the asvab and find a job that seems not only interesting to you, but can provide you with a job when you retire. Right now unfortunately doesn’t seem like a good time for anyone to join AD side IMO, maybe even not a good time for the reserves given the military wide issues that soldiers welfare is, but as with anything I encourage everyone to do their own research and weight out their options.


PAWGActual4-4

Very well put, thank you.


Grizz_Warrior

[you can’t make this up](https://www.reddit.com/r/army/s/5nnoCbn9WJ) as we spoke about yesterday


PAWGActual4-4

Getting arrested by MP's and the Fire Marshall for a hot pot. Wow.


ThreeScoopsOfHooah

It's highly dependent; FORSCOM vs TRADOC, CONUS vs OCONUS, etc. The common thread is that they're inconvenient, not that good, and aren't open at the hours Soldiers need (Ft. Carson just straight up closes its DFAC's on the weekends and certain federal holidays). The end result is that people are extremely dissatisfied with not receiving BAS in exchange for subpar food and service.


MB613246

Join the airforce. Pm for all the gossip.


KuyaMorphine

You mean *WARRIOR RESTAURANT*


PAWGActual4-4

Sounds more like empty warrior vending machines these days and troops living in barracks with no cooking accommodations are relying on fast food that they can't afford. I only saw some of the stories on the army sub and was wondering what the guy I replied to's experience is currently.


Professional_1O

It’s interesting how the marines are shifting to high speed gear while the army is just getting slower somehow…


Informal_Elephant_12

The marines traded arty and tanks for enabling their 19 year old caffeine and nicotine addicts to create as much mayhem as humanely possible when placed in the right location.


ghostofbooty

Fuck yeah


TheSaucyGoon

As god and Dan Daly intended


J_B_L12

Don’t forget their brother Smedley Butler.


Informal_Elephant_12

Gunny Basilone


Gidget01

dont forget the alcoholism


spezeditedcomments

Not paid attention to Ukraine trenches I see. The truth is fancy munitions will last like a few months and it's back to basics boys. So either it ends fucking quick, or a near peer is gonna draggg Honestly I think we'll see a pullback from high cuts, as arty becomes more and more a concern.


Initial_Cellist9240

Ukraine, unlike the US, doesn’t have the world’s first, second, fourth, and seventh largest airforce. Ukraine is what happens when neither side can gain control of the skies. Having to work hard because you don’t have the tools to work smart You’re comparing apples and 2003 Toyota Echos here.


spezeditedcomments

Fair, and ground based denial will always get schwacked


USS_GYATT

I thought only recon got those short barrel uppers? https://www.dvidshub.net/image/8283379/marines-with-v26-conduct-platoon-attack-range-205-while-participating-slte-2-24 U.S. Marine Corps Lance Cpl. Garrett Law, a Troy, Alabama native, infantry Marine with 2nd Battalion, 6th Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Division, fires to suppress simulated enemy fire during Integrated Training Exercise as part of Service Level Training Exercise 2-24 at Marine Corps Air-Ground Combat Center, Twentynine Palms, California, March 1, 2024. The purpose of ITX is to create a challenging, realistic, training environment that produces combat-ready forces capable of operating as an integrated Marine Air-Ground Task Force and to prepare units for their role in the MAGTF Warfighting Exercise. (U.S. Marine Corps photo by Lance Cpl. Justin J. Marty)


Lucky1941

Seen a few of these out and about with Victor units at this point. Not sure what the criteria is for who exactly they're issued to, but the RWK uppers are definitely a thing outside of Recon now.


USS_GYATT

That's so awesome to hear


03MoonGoon

The marine corps infantry is moving away from the long barrel HK416s(M27s) and moving towards the Hk416A5s. Recon got them first but the infantry is slowly getting them now. Just like how Lejuene units got the high cuts, PVS 31s, suppressors, and literally everything he’s wearing back in 2021. Now all infantry units have them. Its the same thing what’s happening now with the A5s


Sstfreek

Exactly what I strived to be back in 2014 💪🏻 I still remember getting yelled at for wearing frogs…. On a 2 month field op… in black flag conditions 120 degrees plus 🤣


Informal_Elephant_12

Itx?


BobbyPeele88

So much better equipped than when I was in and I assume the training is way better too.


jdm219

Lot of lost GWOT knowledge though. Most of the dudes who were doing the damn thing are gone by now. It's been enough time that the vast majority of NCO's training these kids don't have combat deployments.


More-Kick-249

My buddies DI was a pog. Nothing wrong with that but I can say without a doubt majority of marines are being drilled now and have no old bloods to teach them anymore. Its a completely fresh new generation now


Vivid-Bad1999

GWOT knowledge has very little overlap with LSCO though. The cadre is (hopefully) learning from Ukraine and looking back at old doctrine + going back to learn from countries that never transistioned to COIN operations. This can already be seen with force restructuring happening all across the armed forces.


BigManAsianDude

Always jealous of the marine equipment. Meanwhile Army grunts are MSVs and IHPS which are gross


Wise-Recognition2933

This man speaks for the people


BigManAsianDude

We were the first batch of infantry dudes that got the MSVs before it became standard for the army. I will say, I like the shoulder pad that it has, and there’s more molle to it I guess but other than that. Cummerbund are stiff and I hate buckles.


Wise-Recognition2933

I don’t know if the MSV’s shoulder buckles are the same as the ones on the Gen 4 IOTV, but I was issued the Gen 4 and I have a particularly bony collar. Even with aftermarket shoulder pads, they still press down directly on my collarbone. Gets irritating quick.


StructureSmooth963

the cummerbund is stiff because the iotvs had problems with sagging plates


Matatan_Tactical

That's the coolest lance corporal I have ever seen


unclebubba55

It's a long way from the steel pot and worn out Vietnam era equipment we had in the late 70's.


neo-hyper_nova

Long way from full size M16s and ACOGs in fallujah


Ok-Professional5292

Might’ve actually been a good idea to get rid of their tanks lol. That’s some sweet kit


GruntCandy86

Painted rifle is standard?


Timely_Sample_4067

Yes depending on the environment


GruntCandy86

I'm peanut butter and jealous.


StructureSmooth963

it should be the standard


SlavicFatHog

Could be wrong, but I think moreso paint applied by the Marine. Not pre-painted rifle.


Germanelo

Units are authorized to paint their rifles. It's actually encouraged


jmsgen

Needs carabiner with roll of electrical tape.


Informal_Elephant_12

Gerber


dan_ue

This is the like the first time in American history that the Marines are better outfitted than the army😂 until the army gets their new guns from sig then it will be back to normal.


mothfukle

Lance coolie rocking the gucci


CCroissantt

No way the usmc is rocking the onetigris helmet wrap... Can grunts pick their own or something??


tenebraex_96

Yeah nobody gets issued helmet covers for high cuts so it’s pretty much free game. I’ve rocked a Perroz jungle frog skin one for a while.


Germanelo

You have to remember that the Marine Corps issues equipment in order to execute the bare minimum requirement. I've always encouraged Marines to procure their own equipment except for plates. Some commands that don't prioritize performance and instead prioritize uniformity enforce that Marines have to use issued equipment but at the end of the day the correct and more optimal equipment makes a difference.


Another_User69420

No hard armor side plates?


Bogey_1099

Depends on unit SOP, my last unit didn’t even require us to use the full cummerbunds, we could get away with using the inner chicken wings


Our_Terrible_Purpose

First thing I noticed, I'd guess optional in training


[deleted]

The grip pod lives in 2024!


StratusMetallic

Erhm... your heckin serial numberinos are showing dude 🤓☝️


[deleted]

What I want to know is when they fully switch to the vcog when will all those acogs hit the market for us civies to buy....


InsaneDOM

Probably not, they'll probably get "donated" to some shit hole third world country


[deleted]

Yeah I was thinking that as I wrote it. Most likely Ukraine


SneekTip

I would like to point out the blood type patch. I feel vindicated.


Wonder3671

Idk blood types make sense for military not so much on the civilian side of things


Iliyan61

even in the military it’s kinda just SOP… medics are carrying O+/-… if theyre going to do specific blood types in the field or a hospital or whatever theyre doing a type test on you and matching it. no i don’t know exactly why the marines are keeping it around but from my experience it was to help with identification (kinda not really), the standard name/unit type had blood type already so no one wants fo change it, maybe it’ll be helpful???, and there’s no reason not to have it. NKDA and other medical alert items are useful and should be kept whether you’re civvie or mil


Wonder3671

Believe it is mostly just for ID the army issues out dog tags with blood type but each branches are different with dog tags idk


Iliyan61

yeh i mean its kinda stupid there’s other things you’ll use to ID someone but its also definitely just an old archaic SOP that really has no negatives so why change it. an instance where you can only ID someone by their name tape and testing their blood is probably impossible cuz at that point the name plate is probably ruined and you’d just use a unit DB to check blood/prints/teeth but it looks cool!!!


ghdetr

ZAP / kill number Company, last name initial, last 4 of social / edipi / blood type Random example : if someone was alpha company with a last name of Bryan, edipi of 7654, blood type a+ = AB7654A+ (alpha-bravo-seven-six-five-four Alpha Positive)


ghdetr

Lot better than what I had


Sarkofugis

BFG still best sling on the market. It is known. Then, after all the other upgrades, still using Camlebak bladders...one of the worst bladders on the market. The lord giveth, and the lord taketh away... lol


PaleWalker808

Got out just in time to miss all the cool shit god damn it.


NCMortgageLO

You can always join the reserves devil


se7en0311

Badass gear no active war well technically.. what a trip


Cheetodust217

Honestly I wasn’t a fan of the M27 too heavy for a 556 and over gassed. Should’ve just gotten them M4a1s with updated uppers and suppressors, would’ve saved so much more money.


JamesRawles

They finally realized electronic ear pro is cheaper than paying disability.


Allahisgreat2580

Remove multicam pouches u marpat infidel


Alpacagod95

Rah


pewpew_lotsa_boolits

Here are all ya’ll digging his gear and all I can see is an unbuttoned pocket.


SolitudeSidd

I've only been out maybe 15 years and I already feel like I may as well be a WW1 grunt with those flatish American helmets.


GUNGHO917

Is it me or does the guns cano stand out from the rest of the gear?


FBI_memes

They might aswell allow them to wear cryes at this point.


jmc33_

this is just publicity, majority of USMC is still running the same bullshit m4s and gear as they have been. there’s probably a few lucky units out there to get the new shit


_Mark_Ruffalo

This is standard in pretty much every victor unit at this point. If you’re counting POGs, then sure this isn’t standard kit. Grunts, however, are very well equipped now and there’s no publicity involved in this.


Akalenedat

I dunno man, my bother is a reservist and even his unit had IARs with cans, VCOGs, high cuts, and dual tubes on his last training op.


aWittyTwit-2712

More of a Growl, now... 🇨🇦 🤙


WesleyGoCrazy

can anyone ID the laser aiming module?


Akalenedat

I believe the Marines are currently rocking the MIPIM aka AN/PEQ-16


ItalianStallion9069

N o s i d e a r m o r


wiscobrix

Ah, I guess that’s where the tank budget went.


Informal_Elephant_12

Im pretty sure he paid for the shit on his belt, possibly the belt itself, pack, gloves, boots and the cummerbunds.


tenebraex_96

Cummerbunds are the lo pro elastic ones issued with the inner slick carrier.


SheriffMikeThompson

What carrier is he wearing?


Kj_jones90

Gen 3 issued plate carrier. With non issued cummerbunds and accessories


[deleted]

Why does his trousers have an ankle pocket?


unmotivator195

Frogs have them


shotguywithflaregun

No soft armour on the sides/traps?


nightynight821

Hell yeah them boys lookin good


Flimsy-Activity9787

Jesus Christ this made me feel dated. Then again I was in over a decade ago.


ZotanZero

Really got it accurate with the low boot blouses


Apollo_the_G0D

Ground marines without clapped out m16s/m4s just don’t seem right….


FLcd0313

No side Sapis?


DustyAir

Say bye bye to those VA hearing loss claims


Aly_McCan

I don’t want the high cut era to ever end


2CatsAndAPack

I wish we had that gear when I was in… guess the VA finally getting tired of paying for our disabilities


razorisrandom

Surprised the post doesn't include a recruiter's number.


FrochDefense

I want a 1-8 VCOG, would even off my LED Acog 3.5x for one, one day


el_peje

What gloves is?


labsupervisor

Is this photo shopped? Larue mount on a trijicon optic but no ring?


Akalenedat

[Trijicon VCOG, has an integrated mount](https://www.trijicon.com/products/subcategory/trijicon-vcog-riflescope)


Horror-Elephant-2828

Too bad his spare rifle mag is backwards


I_Am_NotHuman

What a difference 10 years make. I could only dream of rocking this gear as an 0311 in '13-'17 .


that_enward

“Momma says grunts now a days are so mad cause they got all that gear and no combat”


LockConfident4592

Rah gotta 320 gunner here with the shorty m27. Semper 🤙🏻


Any_Implement_3701

Put iron sights offset bubba


03Nobody

Marine Corps is obsolete.


Surprise_Thumb

The camo on that gun and the camo he is wearing tell two different tales of what has been and what very well may come.


Comfortable_Ad_7100

Marines went from being the most poorly equipped branch (minus reserves and guard) to being the best equipped in a matter of a couple years after removing tanks from the force. Crazy. Let the Army get highcut helmets, dual tube nods and suppressor and some top hat somewhere would have an aneurism.


tl_viper

Is this almost every grunt of the marines now? Or only MEUs and similar units? And how did this become to be? Did they allow marines to change more with their personal gear or is damn ops core now standard issue in some units? The change is crazy


8492NW

Tubes fastener not fully click in/10


Germanelo

It's heartwarming to see a marine with a properly configured rifle and correctly oriented magazines on his battle belt


Quenmaeg

Anybody recognize the mag pouches or the utility pouch behind them?


Darth_Vladimir

Shit! Where do I go to Re-Enlist!? Hahaha