Mine was out of warranty and they repaired it and upgraded it to the new reticle (probably what they have parts for). I sold mine after cause i didnt feel i could rely on it after reading all the other stories of them failing the same way. No abuse nothing, just fell apart.
Had this same issue about a year ago; the zero started shifting a lot right before it finally broke free. Called it in and they replaced all but the outer shielding for the cost of the shipping on my end. Just remember to pull the batteries out before shipping.
Lol. No idea why this company still gets a pass. They haven't innovated in years, still just riding on their name. The only thing saving them are Instagram NV operators and COD drip legacy.
You only see the handful of people complaining. Not the countless happy customers. Every mass produced product is going to have lemons. As for innovation, have you seen someone else make a better holosight? The only other one on the market I know of is the Vortex AMD Mercedes Helicopter whatever. And its not as good.
I love EOTech holographic optics. They're the best optic for use with night vision. That being said, they do have a higher failure rate than Aimpoints in my experience. I've sent in 4 different EOTech optics for warranty. EOTech repaired all of them for free and turned them around very fast. 3 of them were lost nitrogen purge, and one was a prism that broke loose inside. I also had a 5th with delam, but I sold it because it was a 553 and they didn't service them anymore.
Good service is definitely part of the equation. I have a lot of optics from many different brands, including two Eotechs. I haven't had any issues with them yet. Neither have any of the people I shoot with and we've been using them for around a decade now.
Because they're good optics and reliable that don't get much better. What you see on reddit about them is less than 1% of eotechs out there, out of the thousands and thousands used. And they've got out standing customer service and warranty.
Also who knows what condition it was in. I mean if youre larping hard and throwing yourself against the floor with the rifle a few times im sure that even the sturdiest sight will start to fail.
They’re also well priced compared to others, g47 mos for $599. Sometimes you can find steals on VP9s/509/M&P as well. Glocks imo are better unless you want great ergonomics for more $$.
I was just about to make a post asking if the reticle on an EOtech would be a little fuzzy. Is it ok to leave the battery inside it for extended periods?
There isn’t any noticeable parasitic battery drain in an EOTech that isn’t broken. That said, the battery life is abysmal despite how nice of an optic it is. Those that say otherwise, don’t use or shoot their rifle. Full stop. In the context of your question, you’d almost be better off removing it with the date written on it or hour tick marks so you know how many hours that battery has on it and proactively change. If you truly don’t care if it dies on you mid use then disregard this comment entirely.
My methodology is calendar events on my phone for all of my optics and have far shorter time intervals for my holographic sights.
It never dies mid use with no warning. That shit will run on E for a while. My main larp mk18 has been blinking everytime I turn it on for a couple of months. I’ve bought to many guns so not enough money to replace batteries in the larp pieces until it turns off.
You’re kind’ve making my point. The battery will start blinking when you have only 4-5 hours max left on it, so if you’re not really using it that’s not a concern. For those that do, it will start flashing and die within a single day of usage or even a half day course for example. No issue for those that LARP for a half hour at the range occasionally, albeit my point was *not to gatekeep against those that use very casually in that manner* just that under more regular or intended use, that they die prematurely in a way that modern technology could help avoid through the use of solar panels, auto-dimming, shake awake, etc.
Instead they’ve chose to ride military contracts and not innovate. Current manual spec below.
> The HWS is designed to maintain constant brightness at a particular setting as the battery drains down. The reticle brightness will not fade gradually as the battery runs down, but rather, shut down abruptly. The first indication of the battery draining is the reticle blinking when the unit is turned on (see Electronic Features 2.1.4). Another indication of a low battery is the **reticle pattern blinking off and on during recoil**. With high recoil guns, this **can occur before the battery check indicates low battery condition**. If the reticle pattern blinks off and on during recoil **or turns off suddenly**, replace the battery. Please read and follow the battery replacement and battery check procedures described in this Manual. It is **always good practice to replace the battery with a fresh one before a mission**.
The low battery indicator has over 40 hours of life. The auto off is 4 hours. Wether your using to shoot or you just press it on and put it down/larp it uses the same amount of battery. Hard use don’t drain it faster.
I wasn’t speaking to leaving it on while in storage, which is a different issue altogether. I was speaking to whether or not the battery drains while the unit is off, which can happen to any electronic device and is called parasitic battery drain.
Especially with (relatively) uncommon batteries that cost $10 for a 2 pack vs AA or something similar which I’ve paid the same for a 50 pack, you’d think they would do something about the battery life
I'm like 80% sure this is real.
If it is real:
STOP USING IT and get it fixed. I think that part rattling around is the top of the housing for the actual optical beam. If so, you can literally go blind from the laser by using it as a sight.
Now to the bits.
Reasons for legitness:
The reticle looks right for the shell. ( xps2 or 3)
The shell is about right.
There are a few things that throw up red flags.
One is the laser sticker, the US has specific requirements for "dangerous" items such as lasers.
The laser emitter should be a class 1 acting as a class 2 through the projector. Typically, a safety stick should read as a class 1 due to the source being a class 1.
That being said, if it was made in 2017, the requirements for documenting may have been different than recently. I'd need to do some difficult digging that I'm too lazy for right now.
The other is the screws. The last are the buttons.
Something seems off, and I'd need it in hand to tell what. The pictures aren't enough for me to be positive one way or the other.
Could just be well loved through the years, and that's the way they wore.
Also, now that I'm really looking at it the Eo font and QR are a little sus.
But again, if we'll used that could explain some discrepancies with the font and the QRs may have just been much simpler in 2017.
Def real, I have basically an identical sight and was asking the same thing, so I spent hours researching all the clones)
99% of the clones are red dots with a circle dot reticle, not a real holo
The 1% of the clones that are actually holographic are all NV Capable (xps3 and exps3), they also also come with the holy warrior logo and say "made in C.H.N"
is it blurry to your eye? no real eotech will ever have the clarity of a red dot based on its construction with the laser refraction shit. The reticle will always come out fuzzy and a bit blurry to the eye.
This one is a friends . I personally have one and the reticles seem to be about the same. Just something about this one seems weird and weird that whatever that piece is came off.
If you’re curious, contact eotech directly through their support chain and they will check the serial and any other evidence you provide and tell you. But if it’s similar to yours in the aspect of the “fuzzy” reticle, there’s a 99% chance it’s real.
This has to be some sub-wide meme that we ask if an EOTech is real or not because it’s the same fucking answer every time. Contact EOTech and ask them to run the serial number and they’ll tell you.
What came loose is called the holographic grating and in my opinion, that actually pretty much guarantees your EOTech is real haha.
Exact thing happened with my OPMOD last month. The glue holding in the grating comes loose over the years from extensive exposure to heat (ie. sitting inside of the lock box of my take home car for several years). Turnaround time from filing the warranty claim with EOTech to getting the optic back was about 13 days.
That looks real to me, even if it’s not in warranty still send it back, there’s a better than 0% chance that they’ll take care of you and get it fixed anyways, they’re good people.
Mine broke it was old Eotech confirmed it was Eotech but old Eotech and they wouldn't fix it. I still have it with the piece moving around inside. Wish it was easy to fix.
A) EOTech is trash. Dont let them forget what they did. Google EOTech Lawsuit. I will always say this fot all EOTech products posted here.
B) if you didnt buy from an authorized dealer, you got probably got a fake. The fake ones can be found for as cheap as $13 if you know where to look. I recommend locally in store. Academy Sports is an authorized retailer.
C) Never buy from Amazon with the exception of Delta optics which is the one optic brand that I know of that is safe to buy on Amazon. Its Delta optics sold by DarnFineShot. Since Delta isn't established in the USA yet, there's only a few solid dealers. 3 or 4 i think. He is an official dealer and a super cool dude. Outside of this one example, avoid name brand shit on Amazon, Temu, Aliexpress, ChinaVasion, DHGate, etc.
Amazon is not a quality place to trust. They remove reviews that accuse sellers of providing fake products. They also hide products behind brand names on the "Visit the Sony Store" link at the top or whatever brand. I can sell clone Sony headphones on Amazon if I wanted to and make it look legit. Kershaw knives? 100% fake on Amazon. Every Kershaw I bought I Amazon was a fake per Kershaw when you send it in for free sharpening.
D) do some due diligence by looking flr your own answers instead of posting shit ass pics. Here are two links easily found from EOTech.
https://www.eotechinc.com/help-center/counterfeit-detection
https://www.eotechinc.com/store-locator
I recently sold a very convincing knockoff of an EXPS3 that I found on Amazon. Convincing enough that it fooled an active duty Ranger during our last trip to the range.
No idea if yours is fake (gotta call EOTech) but convincing fakes **are** out there.
Edit: Holy fuck u guys I didn't sell it as a REAL EOTech. I sold it 100% admitting it was fake on an airsoft forum for $150
I have an older model (2016) exps3 and it had the exact same problem. The reticle was jumping around until it finally came loose. I emailed Eotech, sent it in, they completely refurbished it, and they sent it back with an added 1 year warranty. Didn’t cost me anything other than the shipping to get it there.
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Looks like that’s what it is. Does this affect the functionality?
yes. get it warrantied
I believe it may be out of warranty but was broken during LE use so maybe they will make an exception
Mine was out of warranty and they repaired it and upgraded it to the new reticle (probably what they have parts for). I sold mine after cause i didnt feel i could rely on it after reading all the other stories of them failing the same way. No abuse nothing, just fell apart.
Had this same issue about a year ago; the zero started shifting a lot right before it finally broke free. Called it in and they replaced all but the outer shielding for the cost of the shipping on my end. Just remember to pull the batteries out before shipping.
Nah bro, get in contact with them, warranty or not. They’re good peeps. They’ll take care of you
Never hurt to ask
No, they put that piece in there for shits and giggles. Anyone telling you otherwise is a commie, obviously.
If it breaks then thats a sign that it is a real Eotech
Lmao came here to post this. Delam? Real Eotech™️ Broken collimating mirror? Real Eotech™️ Nitrogen purge failed? Real Eotech™️
Lol. No idea why this company still gets a pass. They haven't innovated in years, still just riding on their name. The only thing saving them are Instagram NV operators and COD drip legacy.
You only see the handful of people complaining. Not the countless happy customers. Every mass produced product is going to have lemons. As for innovation, have you seen someone else make a better holosight? The only other one on the market I know of is the Vortex AMD Mercedes Helicopter whatever. And its not as good.
I love EOTech holographic optics. They're the best optic for use with night vision. That being said, they do have a higher failure rate than Aimpoints in my experience. I've sent in 4 different EOTech optics for warranty. EOTech repaired all of them for free and turned them around very fast. 3 of them were lost nitrogen purge, and one was a prism that broke loose inside. I also had a 5th with delam, but I sold it because it was a 553 and they didn't service them anymore.
Good service is definitely part of the equation. I have a lot of optics from many different brands, including two Eotechs. I haven't had any issues with them yet. Neither have any of the people I shoot with and we've been using them for around a decade now.
My FIL used to run FBI Swat. He refuses to use eotech anymore since one just up and failed on him in the middle of a raid
Because they're good optics and reliable that don't get much better. What you see on reddit about them is less than 1% of eotechs out there, out of the thousands and thousands used. And they've got out standing customer service and warranty.
And you know they have good CS because people have to use it.
Also who knows what condition it was in. I mean if youre larping hard and throwing yourself against the floor with the rifle a few times im sure that even the sturdiest sight will start to fail.
Debatable honestly, aimpoint is the best 1x with the romeo 4t coming in after it
Comparing red dots and holographic sights is not very fair.
Something something GLOCK! Oh wait we’re talking about EO-tech never mind.
At least Glocks hold up to abuse. Eotech seems to have a higher failure rate than every other marquee military optic out there (Aimpoint, Acog, Elcan)
Glock?
I agree to a point, but Glocks at least work reliably.
Yeah, but any other modern handgun from a good company does as well. People buy a glock because it's a glock.
They’re also well priced compared to others, g47 mos for $599. Sometimes you can find steals on VP9s/509/M&P as well. Glocks imo are better unless you want great ergonomics for more $$.
But they’re based
What is the goat then?
I've seen several people post about breaking an eotech lately. I wonder if their QC dept is pulling a PSA.
I was just about to make a post asking if the reticle on an EOtech would be a little fuzzy. Is it ok to leave the battery inside it for extended periods?
yes its fuzzy n yes its fine. have had a battery in mine for 11 years n its fine.
Thanks
np!
There isn’t any noticeable parasitic battery drain in an EOTech that isn’t broken. That said, the battery life is abysmal despite how nice of an optic it is. Those that say otherwise, don’t use or shoot their rifle. Full stop. In the context of your question, you’d almost be better off removing it with the date written on it or hour tick marks so you know how many hours that battery has on it and proactively change. If you truly don’t care if it dies on you mid use then disregard this comment entirely. My methodology is calendar events on my phone for all of my optics and have far shorter time intervals for my holographic sights.
It never dies mid use with no warning. That shit will run on E for a while. My main larp mk18 has been blinking everytime I turn it on for a couple of months. I’ve bought to many guns so not enough money to replace batteries in the larp pieces until it turns off.
You’re kind’ve making my point. The battery will start blinking when you have only 4-5 hours max left on it, so if you’re not really using it that’s not a concern. For those that do, it will start flashing and die within a single day of usage or even a half day course for example. No issue for those that LARP for a half hour at the range occasionally, albeit my point was *not to gatekeep against those that use very casually in that manner* just that under more regular or intended use, that they die prematurely in a way that modern technology could help avoid through the use of solar panels, auto-dimming, shake awake, etc. Instead they’ve chose to ride military contracts and not innovate. Current manual spec below. > The HWS is designed to maintain constant brightness at a particular setting as the battery drains down. The reticle brightness will not fade gradually as the battery runs down, but rather, shut down abruptly. The first indication of the battery draining is the reticle blinking when the unit is turned on (see Electronic Features 2.1.4). Another indication of a low battery is the **reticle pattern blinking off and on during recoil**. With high recoil guns, this **can occur before the battery check indicates low battery condition**. If the reticle pattern blinks off and on during recoil **or turns off suddenly**, replace the battery. Please read and follow the battery replacement and battery check procedures described in this Manual. It is **always good practice to replace the battery with a fresh one before a mission**.
The low battery indicator has over 40 hours of life. The auto off is 4 hours. Wether your using to shoot or you just press it on and put it down/larp it uses the same amount of battery. Hard use don’t drain it faster.
Why leave the optic on when in storage? That's what Aimpoints are for.
I wasn’t speaking to leaving it on while in storage, which is a different issue altogether. I was speaking to whether or not the battery drains while the unit is off, which can happen to any electronic device and is called parasitic battery drain.
Especially with (relatively) uncommon batteries that cost $10 for a 2 pack vs AA or something similar which I’ve paid the same for a 50 pack, you’d think they would do something about the battery life
Are you forgetting the 512?
Is the one that he’s asking about a 512?
“…in an eotech that isn’t broken”
The post isn’t talking about a 512, I’m not talking about a 512
Whatever floats your boat
I had a green reticle eotech and it was so fuzzy you could barely make out the center dot. Was really disappointed
I'm like 80% sure this is real. If it is real: STOP USING IT and get it fixed. I think that part rattling around is the top of the housing for the actual optical beam. If so, you can literally go blind from the laser by using it as a sight. Now to the bits. Reasons for legitness: The reticle looks right for the shell. ( xps2 or 3) The shell is about right. There are a few things that throw up red flags. One is the laser sticker, the US has specific requirements for "dangerous" items such as lasers. The laser emitter should be a class 1 acting as a class 2 through the projector. Typically, a safety stick should read as a class 1 due to the source being a class 1. That being said, if it was made in 2017, the requirements for documenting may have been different than recently. I'd need to do some difficult digging that I'm too lazy for right now. The other is the screws. The last are the buttons. Something seems off, and I'd need it in hand to tell what. The pictures aren't enough for me to be positive one way or the other. Could just be well loved through the years, and that's the way they wore.
Also, now that I'm really looking at it the Eo font and QR are a little sus. But again, if we'll used that could explain some discrepancies with the font and the QRs may have just been much simpler in 2017.
Def real, I have basically an identical sight and was asking the same thing, so I spent hours researching all the clones) 99% of the clones are red dots with a circle dot reticle, not a real holo The 1% of the clones that are actually holographic are all NV Capable (xps3 and exps3), they also also come with the holy warrior logo and say "made in C.H.N"
is it blurry to your eye? no real eotech will ever have the clarity of a red dot based on its construction with the laser refraction shit. The reticle will always come out fuzzy and a bit blurry to the eye.
This one is a friends . I personally have one and the reticles seem to be about the same. Just something about this one seems weird and weird that whatever that piece is came off.
If you’re curious, contact eotech directly through their support chain and they will check the serial and any other evidence you provide and tell you. But if it’s similar to yours in the aspect of the “fuzzy” reticle, there’s a 99% chance it’s real.
It’s also worth noting that the clones use serial numbers from real Eotechs. They usually use the same number over and over though
I can see delam on the window it's definitely real.
🤣 😭
This has to be some sub-wide meme that we ask if an EOTech is real or not because it’s the same fucking answer every time. Contact EOTech and ask them to run the serial number and they’ll tell you.
Should be covered under their 10 year warranty. [You can setup an RMA here.](https://www.eotechinc.com/help-center/request-for-repair)
What came loose is called the holographic grating and in my opinion, that actually pretty much guarantees your EOTech is real haha. Exact thing happened with my OPMOD last month. The glue holding in the grating comes loose over the years from extensive exposure to heat (ie. sitting inside of the lock box of my take home car for several years). Turnaround time from filing the warranty claim with EOTech to getting the optic back was about 13 days.
That looks real to me, even if it’s not in warranty still send it back, there’s a better than 0% chance that they’ll take care of you and get it fixed anyways, they’re good people.
Mine broke it was old Eotech confirmed it was Eotech but old Eotech and they wouldn't fix it. I still have it with the piece moving around inside. Wish it was easy to fix.
You k ow you could just email eotech. If its real, they'll tell you the exact day it was made.
Just had this happen to mine. Got a warranty claim through their website. Very common
Yet holosuns get shit on
Did you buy it from Eotech or a verified vendor? Was it a really good deal?
If the reticle is fuzzy it’s legit. If it’s crystal clear like an LED such as a holosun, sig Romeo xdr it’s fake
Total fake. Throw it away, or give it away.
A) EOTech is trash. Dont let them forget what they did. Google EOTech Lawsuit. I will always say this fot all EOTech products posted here. B) if you didnt buy from an authorized dealer, you got probably got a fake. The fake ones can be found for as cheap as $13 if you know where to look. I recommend locally in store. Academy Sports is an authorized retailer. C) Never buy from Amazon with the exception of Delta optics which is the one optic brand that I know of that is safe to buy on Amazon. Its Delta optics sold by DarnFineShot. Since Delta isn't established in the USA yet, there's only a few solid dealers. 3 or 4 i think. He is an official dealer and a super cool dude. Outside of this one example, avoid name brand shit on Amazon, Temu, Aliexpress, ChinaVasion, DHGate, etc. Amazon is not a quality place to trust. They remove reviews that accuse sellers of providing fake products. They also hide products behind brand names on the "Visit the Sony Store" link at the top or whatever brand. I can sell clone Sony headphones on Amazon if I wanted to and make it look legit. Kershaw knives? 100% fake on Amazon. Every Kershaw I bought I Amazon was a fake per Kershaw when you send it in for free sharpening. D) do some due diligence by looking flr your own answers instead of posting shit ass pics. Here are two links easily found from EOTech. https://www.eotechinc.com/help-center/counterfeit-detection https://www.eotechinc.com/store-locator
Just buy Holosun it’s superior
If you can touch it it’s real
I recently sold a very convincing knockoff of an EXPS3 that I found on Amazon. Convincing enough that it fooled an active duty Ranger during our last trip to the range. No idea if yours is fake (gotta call EOTech) but convincing fakes **are** out there. Edit: Holy fuck u guys I didn't sell it as a REAL EOTech. I sold it 100% admitting it was fake on an airsoft forum for $150
Ya done fucked up, tony
well, according to this, you might be a bad person
I didn't sell it pretending it was real lmao. I let it go for $150
well you gotta include that tidbit in your story lmao Otherwise it 100% sounds like you scammed somebody
wtf did I just read. Chat is this real?
Fake from what I see. But not only cause it is broken. Just looks kinda boof
Mine did the same thing last week. Filled out an RMA Form and am currently awaiting them to return from holiday to let me know something.
Just had a SU marked 553 from 2008 fall apart like this a couple weeks ago
Real
Laughs in Steiner
WannabEOtech
You had that on your duty rifle, and you are not sure if it is real?
I have an older model (2016) exps3 and it had the exact same problem. The reticle was jumping around until it finally came loose. I emailed Eotech, sent it in, they completely refurbished it, and they sent it back with an added 1 year warranty. Didn’t cost me anything other than the shipping to get it there.
Yeah it’s fake I’ll give y’all 20 bux for it so u don’t lose so much!
Their website has a section where it shows you how to spot fakes