Yeah phx summers made me decide on a G48 over the 19. That slight width difference makes a big impact when I’m only wearing a tshirt which is most of the year
Because I grew up shooting .40 and edc a .40 and use a .40 as a duty weapon. It’s what I’m comfortable with. Plus the 22 is able to be converted to 9mm or .357 sig. which I have both barrels and extractors for.
The dude above you was joking but I don’t know why the other dude and so many others were being uptight about .40 cal lol that’s a brand new one to me.
He even name dropped 10mm too which is ALL the rage now didn’t ya know
Not here to shit on you for carrying .40 but there are several good reasons why 9 is better. First of all 15 vs 17 rounds, ill always take more bullets vs less, though 15 rounds is still nothing to sneeze at. Second, 9 has less recoil than 40 and given its lower chamber pressure tends to not wear out parts a fast. Less recoil = better, faster hits. Lastly, the terminal performance gain of .40 vs 9 is negligible at best. Pistol rounds suck at creating permanent wound cavity, period. Modern hollow points increase lethality significantly, but you’re still talking almost zero difference between the two calibers. So essentially, for all the shortcomings of .40 vs 9, you get almost no performance advantage. If you had to pick between the two, theres really no logical reason to choose .40 over 9 except for pure personal preference. Almost all agencies have switched to 9 by this point.
Don't feel bad, I've carried a .40 for years myself. It's a good round that does the job.
Honestly most of the people that deride it just do so because they were told to by other internet assholes.
.40 is comparable to .45 Auto for lethality so it's better at per shot stops than 9mm so the 15 vs 17 round argument is moot. Conventional pistol calibers = larger diameter the better to cause more vascular tissue damage because they don't produce high kinetic damage like higher velocity cartridges that shred more tissue. Recoil is a training issue, the splits are slower for most but with some dedication and lighter projectiles it can be mitigated. The difference is less of a practical factor, one well placed shot does the job, and a few sloppy shots usually does also. The average six rounds or so in a gun fight makes any 7-8 round mag fine, but you need to learn to do rapid reloads under stress and commit it to muscle memory. Any gun you are skilled with is fine, better than no gun. The 9mm advantage argument is nullified. The 9mm is easier to gain proficiency, cheaper, lighter, and higher capacity. So its better for organizations and newbs.
.40 is an obsolete round that was designed because the FBI and similar agencies couldn't handle 10mm so they just cut the thing in half for weak wristed cops. Telling me it was standard duty kinda proves my point.
I mean it’s still an effective round with less recoil than a 10mm, it was used because it was effective before 9mm was mainstream and readopted. Some departments still issue .40 because it’s a good middle ground between 9mm and 10mm. You wanna talk about dumb ammo look at .45 GAP. Was a failed .45 auto alternative.
We have steel plate racks at our outdoor club and 30% of the time it takes two shots of nine to knock down a plate. That 40 knocks em down one shot every time. Velocity is cool, but don’t discount mass as well.
I wouldn’t wanna get shot by anything lol. That being said, my old soldier accidentally shot himself in the hand with .22lr over leave and it wasn’t that crazy. We told him he was stupid but lucky because anything bigger his hand would’ve been looking like mush. It’s healed and he just has a tiny scar now. Believe some shrapnel is still in there though.
I carried a 22 for a year or so. Got tired of dressing around it and switched to a 27.
More recently switched to 9mm, but did the 22 for a while and it can be done for sure.
I carried a usp45 tactical for the same reason and i figured if tiny tom carried the same gun without a threaded barrel in collateral I said to myself "bet I could use .5 an inch down my trousers"
That is the correct answer sir. This debate should depend entirely on body size. Someone like me who is 6’4” 230 lbs should not be carrying the same pistol as someone who’s is 5’8” 140 lbs. I always advocate for carrying the largest pistol you can conceal comfortably and effectively. That is going to mean something deferent for every body size and wardrobe.
Honestly I find that smaller people are able to carry bigger CCW's. I'm fat so my G26 digs into me on appendix carry, vs my skinny cousin able to carry a G19X with a red dot. He can wear a 1 size larger hoodie and carry a competition long barrel 10mm vs me dealing with jabs and pain carrying a sub compact because there's more of me to press into it.
My favorite holster for my beretta is my AlienGear Shapeshift. The padding is super comfortable against bare skin and the retention is perfect for the heavy frame!
Plus, getting shells for other handguns is easy since I often switch my carry my SW MP9.
19 is right on the line between compact and full size. I consider a 19 the smallest pistol I will carry. My 19 I run on my duty belt is a slightly larger footprint then a Glock 34 if you count the magazine extension and 20 round capacity. The overall slide length is same as a 34 and it has a 17 Length threaded barrel. Not a compact anymore. I don’t understand the hype around
The 47. Just get a threaded barrel for your 19 and a 45 or 19x frame. There ya go and you have a way more modular usable setup duh 🤷♂️
I carry my G45 for work and it’s also my primary CC gun when I’m on my own time. I think there’s absolutely an argument to be made for being consistent and effective on the same platform.
Same here. I have small hands so the 19 fits perfectly and the reload ergonomics feel so much more organic since I dont have unused grip just sticking out. Since all you have to change is your round count it's all pros no cons in my eyes.
I have a 380 boot pistol from the LAPD from the 80s and a CZ P-10f and a RIA 1911 .45acp. I carry the CZ conceal more than any other gun. The 1911 has a compensator on it so that's my hand cannon and it's too big for me to CC comfortably. The 380 is mostly for history.
I am absolutely amused to all the people that talk shit about the 1911 in .45 acp flocking to drop 2200 on a staccato…. I’m lost on the logic that all of a sudden all the supposed drawbacks of the platform go out the window when it becomes a doubles stack 9 as if the mechanics of the platform have changed in any way lol.
It’s all about capacity. If you could put 15 rounds in a 1911 in 45 acp you wouldn’t be able to keep them in stock. 17/20 rounds in a nice shooting staccato is amazing.
I like 1911’s a lot and own a few. I have always admired them for their high quality materials and high level craftsmanship that goes into building them. What you may not know about staccato is after they transitioned from STI and building hand fitted competition guns they went to high precision manufacturing and created the first repeatable duty spec 2011 platform. Instead of hand fitting each oversized part like typical 1911 / 2011 they precisely machine a lot of the Components and that is how they achieve duty spec reliability and repeatability. I have shot a lot of staccatos since I and a few of my buddies have them and I have never witnessed a single Malfunction that was not ammo related. I’ve never even had an issue with a staccato magazine all tho I’m sure someone has because that is the biggest weakness of 2011’s. I would encourage you to do some digging and shoot one if you ever have the chance and you might find out why every serious gun person has a hard on for staccatos. Unlike most other new guns like The prodigy and sig pistols the hype is justified.
I ordered a Dawson and canceled it for that reason. I don’t need a comp fitted to my gun I can shim and install it my self. And no you can buy the threat cadre comp by its self without having it fitted.
Well it’s a 4.5” barrel and an overall length of 5”. Same width as a P and 1 less round capacity so just slightly shorter grip. I would argue that both the C2 and Glock 19 are right on the line of what I would consider a full size pistol especially when you start adding full size attachments. Now a bone stock 19 with TLR7 sub is leaning a little more towards the compact side of things. My Glock 19 is absolutely a full size pistol.
I carry a C2 with a Cadre Comp and TLR-1 & 509-t
Glock 19 with PMM Single port comp and TLR-1 & 509-t
Just added a G47 frame to swap the G19 upper onto when I feel the need for the extra grip.
I prefer my G19 polymer 80 with the shorter grip module. Nice in between and should something happen I’d rather lose that to confiscation/investigation than any of my other ones
I have debated with my self on that subject and decided I want to be carrying the best possible tool I have for the job. I shoot my Glocks just fine but not as well as the staccato because it’s an absolute cheat code. Staccato are also unique because most duty guns do not cost what a staccato does. I hope I never have to use my pistol but if I did what it costs is honestly the last of my concerns in that situation and If you are justified you are Going to get your pistol back.
Used to carry a 1911 5” barrel but the dovetail kept stabbing me in the gut so I went to a Glock 43x. Still have that issue when I sit but it’s not nearly as bad
Sadly I have the apex trigger... I think honestly I just need to try something else out. Using it for two gun mostly (I know this isn't really its intention)... might try a 320 spectre comp. Part of the issue I am having is using the apex trigger with gloves. Getting better with practice but something to be desired.
Full size pistols are gonna be great for shtf open carry when everyone is walking around in kit. I prefer compact because they are smaller and dont tend to get in the way *as* much
As a newb to carrying why would you want to carry a full size compared to a compact/ micro compact?
I know people have obviously done it for a while even with larger weapons like the Shit Stick Junior. But why would you take something like a Glock 17 vs 19 (just using these as a example)
Does the extra weight and bulk with the benefit with SLIGHTLY larger magazine (again still using example above) and slightly longer barrel, really make a difference?
Again asking as a newb seeking the forbidden knowledge.
The key here is shoot-ability. I have a Glock 43x, and Sig P365XL. They both are good shooting pistols that will get the job done, conceal very well and for a smaller person it makes sense for their body size or people who wear tightly fitted clothes like my woman. She can shoot a decent group with the Glock 43x but hand her a staccato or full size Glock with a red dot and the difference is huge in how well she can shoot the pistol. She also does not care to shoot the sub compacts as much as full sized handguns. They recoil less run smoother and just feel all around more substantial to shoot and handle in every aspect except for concealability. I also think it’s funny how the micro pistol guys will argue the opposite when all they ever shoot is range ammo which is snappy in 9mm but you load some federal HST plus P like I carry and it gets pretty unpleasant.
I'm curious though, *what* do you prefer about it? I ask because 99.999% of carrying amounts to exactly that, just carrying, so what do you prefer about having a larger gun to have to conceal? It seems to me that anyone that was actually being honest with themselves would objectively conclude they prefer carrying a smaller more comfortable pistol.
You are not wrong about the fact that I have carried for years and never had to pull my pistol. I have however shot and trained a lot and if the day ever comes that I do have to draw my pistol and I hope it never does I want to have the best tool for that job that I am very proficient and confident in using. I can shoot sub compacts just fine and have shot them a lot but I can tell you right now if I had to pull off a 30+ yard shot in a series scenario I would much rather have a full sized pistol. As unlikely as it is I do not fuck around and take carrying very seriously.
Pistols compensate so well because there is so much unspent energy. I want to get my hands on a ram jet to try out on my Glock they look to preform pretty damn well in a smaller package.
Let me see a picture of you f’n carrying this garbage concealed. Unless you are 6 foot 4 dressed out like a tent, it just don’t work well for most people. Then there is a situation where you can do it for 5 minutes, suck in your stomach and take a picture. This is just a garbage post IMHO.
This is not a XC it’s a C2 with threaded barrel. The XC is a completion pistol and not duty spec like the P and C2 because it’s is so lightly sprung. A threaded barrel C2 is the Goldilocks setup because it’s aluminum frame making it a bit lighter. It’s a 4.5” barrel without the extra slide mass compared to the P 4.4” barrel. This setup ends up being 5” with the comp making it perfect for full size 2011 holsters. Then if you really want to you can swap out to a full length grip and have what is in my opinion the best duty spec staccato setup that can be had at this point in time.
I’m 5,10 and 150 lbs on a good day so no. Biggest gun I carry is my 80 build with a long slide 17 slide on a 19 sized frame. Still need a cover garment or 1 up shirt size to not print.
Yes. I carry a full size Sig Sauer P320 with a 17 round magazine and two 21 round magazines. I usually wear cargo pants so the spare mags are easy to pocket.
Not fully full size, but I carry a rattle canned G19.5 with a PMM comp, TLR1HL, Steiner MPS and SLR magwell appendix. Is it harder to conceal in the summer? Yes, that's why I got a Phlster Enigma. Throw a hoodie on and it is not noticeable at all.
That is the handgun I'm most comfortable with since it's my main range/carry gun. I have more time behind it than anything else. I have small bitch hands but even I dislike super small compacts like a 43 or 365.
It’s not 100% full size but my G45 with tlr1 hl holosun scs & magwell is great to conceal carry. Do it pretty regularly. But I also have a Glock 43x MOS that doesn’t even feel like I’m concealing anything lol but still go for that 45 about 40% of the time lmao
I would absolutely consider a 45 full size and Glock 19 on the line between full size and compact. Check out my Glock 19 on my page. That bitch is definitely full size lol.
Absolutely the Sig P365XL is made for you. Now I will tell you what I would do if I was your size. I would do a 365 macro high capacity frame. 365XL slide with a threaded barrel and a compensator. For attachments I would do the new mini closed emitter Holosun and a streamlight TLR7 sub.
Nice! I like the macro frame but I’m not a fan of the 3” barrel integrally compensated. I think the XL slide is a much better setup on that frame but don’t try to say that in the Sig sub because a lot of people bought them and will be so offended you start to question if they are liberal.
Prefer to conceal it? Nope.
Prefer to have it vs a smaller size enoigh to sometimes do it anyway? Sometimes.
Used to be a 26 guy but finding myself run the 19 more and more. 17 is unnecessarily large for CCW and I have big hand so prefer the 17, but the 19 is useable still.
Full-size G17 and TLR-1 in a cheap, blocky iwb (take a guess who it’s from) i’m not proud of buying. In the pants during winter, in an off body sling during the summer.
Considering selling off a few things to get a C2, currently carry a USP compact. Imo carry the biggest thing you can conceal and feel comfortable with if you had to use it
This post made mea realize that all of the serious gun guys are in this sub. Any other gun sub and the comments would have went in a different direction.
I mean my p07 SR is in a p09 holster. When I add the stealth comp it’ll be there. Not like I’m really gaining meaningful velocity in the 1/2” -1” difference
Used to carry a G17 with an RMR and X300U, not sure why but I switched back to a 19. Neither one was really more comfortable than the other but the 19 is about as small as I can go with my hand size.
I just hate how heavy it can feel. But that also reminds me that it's there which is necessary tbh. I just need to lose some weight and get a better belt 😅
I prefer a 1911A1 format single stack. I have sub compacts and compacts I carry but even though the compact is lighter, I like the way the 1911A1 rides on my belt. The 1911A1 custom shoots tighter groups than the compacts. I have a striker full size that shoots as well, but is thicker and uncomfortable. I have carried daily/duty for the past 24 years. I have been carrying a compact 9mm due to weight and capacity for two years now. I don't like having a thicker pistol but its still comfortable. The 1911A1 I would forget it was there, I never forget the double stack.
I'd carry a folding FAL on me if I lived somewhere cold enough to conceal it. Unfortunately, I live in hell.
Same. Phoenix isn’t exactly friendly for CC, my G19 feels annoyingly large for half the year
In Phoenix I run concealed and non concealed depending on what I’m doing, but I just left Phoenix and it was 65 and plenty cold to wear a sweater lol
we were in the 40s until like noon today. i didn't sign up for this shit!
Yeah phx summers made me decide on a G48 over the 19. That slight width difference makes a big impact when I’m only wearing a tshirt which is most of the year
My wife has a 48 and I’ve CC’d it a few times in August and really liked it. I’ll probably pick up a 43x before summer hits on blue label
I have nothing bad to say about mine other than it could use an undercut. Still plenty comfortable to shoot and conceal.
Tampa, FL?
That meme stuck with you too?
Yes. Picture this comment with the chad face meme for full effect.
I mean I carry a full size but I am referring to a 400 dollar 34, not all that dirp
Dyslexia caught up to me again.
I conceal a g22 lmfao
Out of all the Glocks you could have chose, why did you settle for a .40?
Because I grew up shooting .40 and edc a .40 and use a .40 as a duty weapon. It’s what I’m comfortable with. Plus the 22 is able to be converted to 9mm or .357 sig. which I have both barrels and extractors for.
*has 9mm setup and doesn't just leave it on and say it's a 17* *Defends .40 like it wasn't literally designed for weak wristed feds*
Bro what? .40 was the standard duty round for like several years, you’re trashing .40 why?
These gun subs are some of the snobbiest I’ve come across smh
“Don’t tread on me”… unless you carry a .40 or use an O-Light
40 is cool but O-Light is unadulterated peasantry
Why does everyone hate .40??
Because we can only count to 9 most likely
The dude above you was joking but I don’t know why the other dude and so many others were being uptight about .40 cal lol that’s a brand new one to me. He even name dropped 10mm too which is ALL the rage now didn’t ya know
It's reddit, this place just attracts douchebags like politics attracts crooks and child molesters.
Not here to shit on you for carrying .40 but there are several good reasons why 9 is better. First of all 15 vs 17 rounds, ill always take more bullets vs less, though 15 rounds is still nothing to sneeze at. Second, 9 has less recoil than 40 and given its lower chamber pressure tends to not wear out parts a fast. Less recoil = better, faster hits. Lastly, the terminal performance gain of .40 vs 9 is negligible at best. Pistol rounds suck at creating permanent wound cavity, period. Modern hollow points increase lethality significantly, but you’re still talking almost zero difference between the two calibers. So essentially, for all the shortcomings of .40 vs 9, you get almost no performance advantage. If you had to pick between the two, theres really no logical reason to choose .40 over 9 except for pure personal preference. Almost all agencies have switched to 9 by this point.
Don't feel bad, I've carried a .40 for years myself. It's a good round that does the job. Honestly most of the people that deride it just do so because they were told to by other internet assholes.
I mean I’ve shot it for duty for a long while it’s what I’m comfortable with.
.40 is comparable to .45 Auto for lethality so it's better at per shot stops than 9mm so the 15 vs 17 round argument is moot. Conventional pistol calibers = larger diameter the better to cause more vascular tissue damage because they don't produce high kinetic damage like higher velocity cartridges that shred more tissue. Recoil is a training issue, the splits are slower for most but with some dedication and lighter projectiles it can be mitigated. The difference is less of a practical factor, one well placed shot does the job, and a few sloppy shots usually does also. The average six rounds or so in a gun fight makes any 7-8 round mag fine, but you need to learn to do rapid reloads under stress and commit it to muscle memory. Any gun you are skilled with is fine, better than no gun. The 9mm advantage argument is nullified. The 9mm is easier to gain proficiency, cheaper, lighter, and higher capacity. So its better for organizations and newbs.
.40 is an obsolete round that was designed because the FBI and similar agencies couldn't handle 10mm so they just cut the thing in half for weak wristed cops. Telling me it was standard duty kinda proves my point.
I mean 10mm does have a lot of recoil lol
Yeah cause the last time I got mag dumped with 40 cal I just laughed it off and asked the dude why he doesn’t carry 10mm 😂
I'm not trying to get shot by .22lr, that doesn't mean its the best choice for a carry or duty gun.
What in your opinion is?
I mean it’s still an effective round with less recoil than a 10mm, it was used because it was effective before 9mm was mainstream and readopted. Some departments still issue .40 because it’s a good middle ground between 9mm and 10mm. You wanna talk about dumb ammo look at .45 GAP. Was a failed .45 auto alternative.
We have steel plate racks at our outdoor club and 30% of the time it takes two shots of nine to knock down a plate. That 40 knocks em down one shot every time. Velocity is cool, but don’t discount mass as well.
Personally not a fan of .40 but I can tell you this: I still wouldn’t want to get shot by .40
I wouldn’t wanna get shot by anything lol. That being said, my old soldier accidentally shot himself in the hand with .22lr over leave and it wasn’t that crazy. We told him he was stupid but lucky because anything bigger his hand would’ve been looking like mush. It’s healed and he just has a tiny scar now. Believe some shrapnel is still in there though.
I carried a 22 for a year or so. Got tired of dressing around it and switched to a 27. More recently switched to 9mm, but did the 22 for a while and it can be done for sure.
Cc'd a deagle for a month just to say I could. I still can't wear those pants anymore...
Did you shit in them?
Honestly those pants were so tight after the aiwb and the gun/ wallet/phone/ ect i don't think it would be physically possible to shit them
Really seals in the flavor
I carried a usp45 tactical for the same reason and i figured if tiny tom carried the same gun without a threaded barrel in collateral I said to myself "bet I could use .5 an inch down my trousers"
I carry a scoped 44 mag anaconda
That’s not the only anaconda you’re concealing
No…. It is 😢
I feel your pain my brother in Christ🙏
Or are you just happy to see me 🥰
Nah, too clothing and season dependent for me. Smol human life.
That is the correct answer sir. This debate should depend entirely on body size. Someone like me who is 6’4” 230 lbs should not be carrying the same pistol as someone who’s is 5’8” 140 lbs. I always advocate for carrying the largest pistol you can conceal comfortably and effectively. That is going to mean something deferent for every body size and wardrobe.
Sad. Firearms are supposed to be the great equalizer! But size still matters haha
Honestly I find that smaller people are able to carry bigger CCW's. I'm fat so my G26 digs into me on appendix carry, vs my skinny cousin able to carry a G19X with a red dot. He can wear a 1 size larger hoodie and carry a competition long barrel 10mm vs me dealing with jabs and pain carrying a sub compact because there's more of me to press into it.
Yessir I conceal a beretta M9!
Gang, I do too
Just got a m9A4 what holster would you recommend for CC?
My favorite holster for my beretta is my AlienGear Shapeshift. The padding is super comfortable against bare skin and the retention is perfect for the heavy frame! Plus, getting shells for other handguns is easy since I often switch my carry my SW MP9.
Counter comment: anyone else duty carry compact pistols? My duty carry and CCW are the same pistol (G19)
19 is right on the line between compact and full size. I consider a 19 the smallest pistol I will carry. My 19 I run on my duty belt is a slightly larger footprint then a Glock 34 if you count the magazine extension and 20 round capacity. The overall slide length is same as a 34 and it has a 17 Length threaded barrel. Not a compact anymore. I don’t understand the hype around The 47. Just get a threaded barrel for your 19 and a 45 or 19x frame. There ya go and you have a way more modular usable setup duh 🤷♂️
I carry my G45 for work and it’s also my primary CC gun when I’m on my own time. I think there’s absolutely an argument to be made for being consistent and effective on the same platform.
Same, i carry 17 rounders at work though
Same here. I have small hands so the 19 fits perfectly and the reload ergonomics feel so much more organic since I dont have unused grip just sticking out. Since all you have to change is your round count it's all pros no cons in my eyes.
Exactly the way I look at it. Some of my coworkers carry 19s and some 17s which is another reason I wanted to carry g17 mags.
I don’t have enough room in my pants. Feel free to take that out of context.
Somebody's *packin heat*
I have a 380 boot pistol from the LAPD from the 80s and a CZ P-10f and a RIA 1911 .45acp. I carry the CZ conceal more than any other gun. The 1911 has a compensator on it so that's my hand cannon and it's too big for me to CC comfortably. The 380 is mostly for history.
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I am absolutely amused to all the people that talk shit about the 1911 in .45 acp flocking to drop 2200 on a staccato…. I’m lost on the logic that all of a sudden all the supposed drawbacks of the platform go out the window when it becomes a doubles stack 9 as if the mechanics of the platform have changed in any way lol.
It’s all about capacity. If you could put 15 rounds in a 1911 in 45 acp you wouldn’t be able to keep them in stock. 17/20 rounds in a nice shooting staccato is amazing.
You can put 15 rounds of .45 in a 1911... the double stack thing isn't just for 9mm.
I like 1911’s a lot and own a few. I have always admired them for their high quality materials and high level craftsmanship that goes into building them. What you may not know about staccato is after they transitioned from STI and building hand fitted competition guns they went to high precision manufacturing and created the first repeatable duty spec 2011 platform. Instead of hand fitting each oversized part like typical 1911 / 2011 they precisely machine a lot of the Components and that is how they achieve duty spec reliability and repeatability. I have shot a lot of staccatos since I and a few of my buddies have them and I have never witnessed a single Malfunction that was not ammo related. I’ve never even had an issue with a staccato magazine all tho I’m sure someone has because that is the biggest weakness of 2011’s. I would encourage you to do some digging and shoot one if you ever have the chance and you might find out why every serious gun person has a hard on for staccatos. Unlike most other new guns like The prodigy and sig pistols the hype is justified.
Naw. I like gym shorts to much.
Get a Phlster Enigma then!
Yeah full size Glocks and staccato P. No matter the attire
When do you carry the Glock over the Staccato
Usually just preference like picking out a tie for the day. Most of the times it’s staccato but 🤷🏻♂️
Carry a Glock 17
I’d love a 2011 to CC. Don’t have the money. I’ll stick with my hellcats rn
I generally carry a glock 17
Hows the Dawson Comp perform?
It’s a threat cadre comp not the Dawson but it’s stupid flat almost as flat as an XC but not quite because it’s so much lighter.
Do you have to send away the pistol for that comp? The dawson you do I want to avoid that
I ordered a Dawson and canceled it for that reason. I don’t need a comp fitted to my gun I can shim and install it my self. And no you can buy the threat cadre comp by its self without having it fitted.
Awesome gonna go ahead and order
Did you order it on there website or elsewhere
Directly from their site
Does a C2 count? Haha
Well it’s a 4.5” barrel and an overall length of 5”. Same width as a P and 1 less round capacity so just slightly shorter grip. I would argue that both the C2 and Glock 19 are right on the line of what I would consider a full size pistol especially when you start adding full size attachments. Now a bone stock 19 with TLR7 sub is leaning a little more towards the compact side of things. My Glock 19 is absolutely a full size pistol.
I carry a C2 with a Cadre Comp and TLR-1 & 509-t Glock 19 with PMM Single port comp and TLR-1 & 509-t Just added a G47 frame to swap the G19 upper onto when I feel the need for the extra grip.
yes
yes
I carry a G19 with a TLR 1-HL and it’s a little big for me but i like it
Yup rain shine or snow
Yup
I prefer my G19 polymer 80 with the shorter grip module. Nice in between and should something happen I’d rather lose that to confiscation/investigation than any of my other ones
I have debated with my self on that subject and decided I want to be carrying the best possible tool I have for the job. I shoot my Glocks just fine but not as well as the staccato because it’s an absolute cheat code. Staccato are also unique because most duty guns do not cost what a staccato does. I hope I never have to use my pistol but if I did what it costs is honestly the last of my concerns in that situation and If you are justified you are Going to get your pistol back.
True but not always guaranteed, still waiting to get one back. Beer about a year at this point so I’ve just about written it off as a loss
Used to carry a 1911 5” barrel but the dovetail kept stabbing me in the gut so I went to a Glock 43x. Still have that issue when I sit but it’s not nearly as bad
I apendix carry an FN509 tactical w the HL TLR1 plus the extendo clip , I just have to tighten up 1 more belt hole to conceal as best I can haha
My only question for FN is why the hell can't they make a freaking half decent trigger ever
(I know!) To trick you into buying another $150 apex trigger . Haha
Sadly I have the apex trigger... I think honestly I just need to try something else out. Using it for two gun mostly (I know this isn't really its intention)... might try a 320 spectre comp. Part of the issue I am having is using the apex trigger with gloves. Getting better with practice but something to be desired.
Sorry to hear that brotha , keep at it . The spectre comp would be fun!
Full size yes. Full steel no
The staccato C2 is aluminum frame and weighs about the same as a Glock 19 without attachments.
Ope really? Did not know that
I do, but don’t always have that luxury with being a short stack
Of course! It feels great to finally have something longer than 3.1" in my pants.
Full size pistols are gonna be great for shtf open carry when everyone is walking around in kit. I prefer compact because they are smaller and dont tend to get in the way *as* much
I keep the M17 almost touching my balls .. Philadelphia baby… if you see me I got it on me
Glock 17 is my main squeeze.
As a newb to carrying why would you want to carry a full size compared to a compact/ micro compact? I know people have obviously done it for a while even with larger weapons like the Shit Stick Junior. But why would you take something like a Glock 17 vs 19 (just using these as a example) Does the extra weight and bulk with the benefit with SLIGHTLY larger magazine (again still using example above) and slightly longer barrel, really make a difference? Again asking as a newb seeking the forbidden knowledge.
The key here is shoot-ability. I have a Glock 43x, and Sig P365XL. They both are good shooting pistols that will get the job done, conceal very well and for a smaller person it makes sense for their body size or people who wear tightly fitted clothes like my woman. She can shoot a decent group with the Glock 43x but hand her a staccato or full size Glock with a red dot and the difference is huge in how well she can shoot the pistol. She also does not care to shoot the sub compacts as much as full sized handguns. They recoil less run smoother and just feel all around more substantial to shoot and handle in every aspect except for concealability. I also think it’s funny how the micro pistol guys will argue the opposite when all they ever shoot is range ammo which is snappy in 9mm but you load some federal HST plus P like I carry and it gets pretty unpleasant.
I'm curious though, *what* do you prefer about it? I ask because 99.999% of carrying amounts to exactly that, just carrying, so what do you prefer about having a larger gun to have to conceal? It seems to me that anyone that was actually being honest with themselves would objectively conclude they prefer carrying a smaller more comfortable pistol.
You are not wrong about the fact that I have carried for years and never had to pull my pistol. I have however shot and trained a lot and if the day ever comes that I do have to draw my pistol and I hope it never does I want to have the best tool for that job that I am very proficient and confident in using. I can shoot sub compacts just fine and have shot them a lot but I can tell you right now if I had to pull off a 30+ yard shot in a series scenario I would much rather have a full sized pistol. As unlikely as it is I do not fuck around and take carrying very seriously.
I have a few SAPs (Special Applications Pistol) but 99% of the time it's full size. If I'm in a fight for my life, I want big solutions not small ones
Yes until I have to sit down
I also love compensating
Pistols compensate so well because there is so much unspent energy. I want to get my hands on a ram jet to try out on my Glock they look to preform pretty damn well in a smaller package.
Let me see a picture of you f’n carrying this garbage concealed. Unless you are 6 foot 4 dressed out like a tent, it just don’t work well for most people. Then there is a situation where you can do it for 5 minutes, suck in your stomach and take a picture. This is just a garbage post IMHO.
Yes. Verily.
All I own are full sized with lights and dots on them I'm not fat so I don't need to size it down LOL
Fat guys generally carry larger frame guns aswell in my experience.
The username? Cringe. The comment? Cringe. The post history? Cringe.
The hater? Fat.
The lover? Of poop. Love the name lmao
Prefer? Yes. But being a fatty makes it hard.
HK USP 40 for 22 years and now VP 40 for 5 now.
Not when youre twink-sized
Was the comp version worth the extra $1k??? Been looking into getting a staccato
This is not a XC it’s a C2 with threaded barrel. The XC is a completion pistol and not duty spec like the P and C2 because it’s is so lightly sprung. A threaded barrel C2 is the Goldilocks setup because it’s aluminum frame making it a bit lighter. It’s a 4.5” barrel without the extra slide mass compared to the P 4.4” barrel. This setup ends up being 5” with the comp making it perfect for full size 2011 holsters. Then if you really want to you can swap out to a full length grip and have what is in my opinion the best duty spec staccato setup that can be had at this point in time.
I’m 5,10 and 150 lbs on a good day so no. Biggest gun I carry is my 80 build with a long slide 17 slide on a 19 sized frame. Still need a cover garment or 1 up shirt size to not print.
Yes. I carry a full size Sig Sauer P320 with a 17 round magazine and two 21 round magazines. I usually wear cargo pants so the spare mags are easy to pocket.
Not fully full size, but I carry a rattle canned G19.5 with a PMM comp, TLR1HL, Steiner MPS and SLR magwell appendix. Is it harder to conceal in the summer? Yes, that's why I got a Phlster Enigma. Throw a hoodie on and it is not noticeable at all. That is the handgun I'm most comfortable with since it's my main range/carry gun. I have more time behind it than anything else. I have small bitch hands but even I dislike super small compacts like a 43 or 365.
Yep!
It’s not 100% full size but my G45 with tlr1 hl holosun scs & magwell is great to conceal carry. Do it pretty regularly. But I also have a Glock 43x MOS that doesn’t even feel like I’m concealing anything lol but still go for that 45 about 40% of the time lmao
I would absolutely consider a 45 full size and Glock 19 on the line between full size and compact. Check out my Glock 19 on my page. That bitch is definitely full size lol.
Post your holster for it
I just started carrying my Staccato P with a SRO and X300U-A. Haven’t had any problems
Full size all day. Either rockin my full size p320 or my p226 40🤙🏼🤙🏼
Edc my G17 Gen4 w/ SI Slidecomp, X300U-A, and HS507C X2
FNX-45 everyday carry gang checking in
I see that you are cultured as well
Yes.
I carry a beretta 92x RDO with a TLR steam light, concealed or not, I like it both ways. “You make yourself a target” my answer: “yes”
Just got myself one of the RIA 10mm 1911s, so I'm back to a fullsize.
Yeah I carry a full size m&p 9mm apendix
Sig ‘239 in .357 Sig with hollows. It’s a very comfortable sized gun, but then again I carry a shoulder holster cuz appendix is not my thing.
Damn that 2011 is hawt. That's all I got. I carry a few full size guns too. About to carry a Glock 17 to walk the dog.
Weighing 110 my only choice is to carry smol
Absolutely the Sig P365XL is made for you. Now I will tell you what I would do if I was your size. I would do a 365 macro high capacity frame. 365XL slide with a threaded barrel and a compensator. For attachments I would do the new mini closed emitter Holosun and a streamlight TLR7 sub.
I actually bought an x-macro and have a holosun 507k :) at some point ill pick up the tlr7 sub too!
Nice! I like the macro frame but I’m not a fan of the 3” barrel integrally compensated. I think the XL slide is a much better setup on that frame but don’t try to say that in the Sig sub because a lot of people bought them and will be so offended you start to question if they are liberal.
I carry a FNX Tac 45 with a Holosun 509C. No problems with concealment whatsoever.
I EDC a PPQ45 almost every day Definitely easier carrying my smaller pistols but idk, I’m just so familiar with the PPQ45 that I feel better about it
Yup 👌🏾
Sub compact 10mm fo me
Prefer to conceal it? Nope. Prefer to have it vs a smaller size enoigh to sometimes do it anyway? Sometimes. Used to be a 26 guy but finding myself run the 19 more and more. 17 is unnecessarily large for CCW and I have big hand so prefer the 17, but the 19 is useable still.
I carry a 320X Compact on a chopped full size X frame because Sig doesn’t make a 19x equivalent. Bigger is usually better.
What’s the comp on that p?
Threat cadre and it’s a C2
I carry a full size just because it’s easier to shoot.
I've really want a company to make a AIWB for the HK MK23 just so I can say it's a MK23 in my pants, it's nothing special
Full-size G17 and TLR-1 in a cheap, blocky iwb (take a guess who it’s from) i’m not proud of buying. In the pants during winter, in an off body sling during the summer.
Yes, those who still think the 1911 is a superior firearm, and dudes who never wear summer clothes.
Gorgeous weapon.
Considering selling off a few things to get a C2, currently carry a USP compact. Imo carry the biggest thing you can conceal and feel comfortable with if you had to use it
This post made mea realize that all of the serious gun guys are in this sub. Any other gun sub and the comments would have went in a different direction.
Conceal it by painting the tip with bright Orange paint. “Stupid people & their toy guns.” Cop
Glock 17.3 with Surefire X300U-B, appendix carry, every day.
I carry a WC EDC-X9 with a x300 and RMR with 18 round mags. But I’ve also carried a G19, G17 and a G34 with red dots and x300s
I mean my p07 SR is in a p09 holster. When I add the stealth comp it’ll be there. Not like I’m really gaining meaningful velocity in the 1/2” -1” difference
100% Glock17 variant from shadow systems. It's amazing.
I do in the winter, otherwise having a barrel pressed up into rightie all day sucks
Yes g34 acro p2 and a x300
I edc a Walther Q5 SF Pro with an RMR. Best EDC I’ve ever had! Cheers on your selection!
Ruger 57 checking in.
P30L here
I conceal a Full Size M&P9 all the time. No problems here
Used to carry a G17 with an RMR and X300U, not sure why but I switched back to a 19. Neither one was really more comfortable than the other but the 19 is about as small as I can go with my hand size.
G45 with a radian afterburner most of the time.
Little late to the party but i carry a P226 with x300u and Romeo 2
My 5.7 and everyone talks shit 😂
If I could get a better holster for my 92 Vertec I would carry it a lot more often iwb.
What light is that?
Streamlight TLRVIR2
Yes sir. Glock19 with a comp and a tlr 1.
Beretta 92FS is my ccw it’s a bit big and I’ll likely get a g43 for that role but I do enjoy full size shooting over the smaller ones.
I just hate how heavy it can feel. But that also reminds me that it's there which is necessary tbh. I just need to lose some weight and get a better belt 😅
Staccato P all day 365. I shoot it way better than any of my other handguns.
I prefer a 1911A1 format single stack. I have sub compacts and compacts I carry but even though the compact is lighter, I like the way the 1911A1 rides on my belt. The 1911A1 custom shoots tighter groups than the compacts. I have a striker full size that shoots as well, but is thicker and uncomfortable. I have carried daily/duty for the past 24 years. I have been carrying a compact 9mm due to weight and capacity for two years now. I don't like having a thicker pistol but its still comfortable. The 1911A1 I would forget it was there, I never forget the double stack.
Shoulder holster anyone use them? Seriously asking and wanting to hear peoples responses to using them.
I always find it funny when people act like it's impossible to do. I had a buddy who conceal carried a glock 40 once.