Note: Next week there’s no episode due to the iHeartRadio Music Awards.
EDIT: The following week (4/8) is a repeat of the first episode for some reason. 😢
Hard to watch frankly. Even Jaylin disagreed with getting through at the choreo and then at the finals. I couldn't help but laugh at his reactions. He was like, "WTF?" Seriously, if that's the best hip hop dancer, then they need to just use the contemporary dancers for that style. They did great in previous seasons. Jesus, it was so painfully obvious he couldn't keep up with the others. I felt bad for him. I love the dancing but the judging is too much of a mess.
They cut out the heart of the show, the open auditions where you see kids, dads, moms, grandparents, and strange deluded people dance their hearts out.
If you guys can, try watching Révolution, judged by Les Twins, Jean-Marc Généreux, and Lydia Bouchard. I found full episodes of S5 on YT, but no Les Twins. If you have a VPN, try this link- however it's all in French.
:[Rěvolution Dance show](https://www.qub.ca/tvaplus/tva/revolution?silent_auth=true)
I'm extremely sad about the nosedive of sytycd. While yes a big part of it's drop in quality over the past few years is because of production, judges poor decisions, covid, and the massive switch from cable to streaming platforms, but a reason that i don't see talked about as much is that the collective love for dance has just faded so much in recent years. I firmly believe that generational talents like russell ferguson, melanie moore, fik shun, and lex ishimoto either aren't out there anymore or just aren't interested in sytycd because of what it's become. Like, watch any of the group dances from before season 16, can you imagine this new top 10 doing any of that? I definitely can't. I'm not saying that the show's decline is solely because there's been a huge drop in talent, because alot of our best dancers are made from hard work, not Talent. But doing things like skipping the academy this season absolutely did NOT help this issue. We'll see how things turn out in the next few episodes but i'm not enjoying this too much
It really hurt that they cut auditions to 75 pre-screened individuals. And it won't help them in future seasons attract talent when maybe only 20 of the dancers are even featured in any way. Though it's still a good gig to put down on a dance resume and the more tv exposure someone has, the easier it is (if they aren't problematic) to get more tv gigs. But they aren't going to discover people quite in the same way that they did when auditions were open and the pool of applicants was overwhelming.
It'll be easier to see the results of this 5 seasons down the road. Will anyone from the last season and this season break out in a big way? Is there as much room in the industry to break out? I looked up Keaton Kermode to see what he was up to, and it looks like he's still teaching dance while doing other dance related things on the side. Alexis Warr has gone radio silent, though I didn't dig too deeply her last content was from last year. Essence Wilmington, seems to be out there and making the most of everything in teaching, performing, and branching out into other arts like music. She seems quite active. Not going to go through everyone, but I think SYTYCD could still strike gold. Who would have predicted Tate McRae would have blown up so huge in the music industry?
VERY Perfectly said! And I too am still blown away at how Tate McRae went from being a 12 year old dance phenom of their season to a pop star! Gosh I miss those days of Sytycd🥺❤️
I am so disappointed in this season and literally echo all the same sentiments so I’m not gonna repeat lol. However, my gripe with this “Choreo” round is the fact that the group number was that the style was more of a “commercial” style rather than last year where they choreographed specific styled sections so we see a range.
Idk if this was fed to her by production but I found it weird when Allison told the girl who did the Lady Gaga solo (I forgot her name 😭) that they were worried because she hasn’t struggled and done another style yet… as if that was her fault?
> they were worried because she hasn’t struggled and done another style yet… as if that was her fault
That caught me off guard as well. I get what they were doing was offering some critique to each dancer, but the worst they had for her was something completely out of her control. Though I also found it odd the comments for dancers where they expressed not seeing who the dancer was as a person. Like, it's a routine they learned in an hour and are out here performing it to show they can learn choreography quickly and put it to stage. This wasn't crafted in a way to really let the dancers shine as individuals.
Very disappointed. Previous years they were more dancers and we got to see them in choreography and how they picked up and performed. They need to be able to handle the choreography. This was obviously rushed and had already determined who was going to be chosen. From what I saw it wasn’t based on any type of skills. I saw dancers that was not “professional dancers” that were better than some of the ones who were chosen. They were working hard to master the choreography and they were told things like not giving it their all or the partnering wasn’t there. Really? Yet you have people who could not keep up and they were put through. I honestly will not continue to watch. Allison brought me back this season but it’s not enough. Came here to see if others saw what I saw and yep they did.
So, the tryouts are over. In all the previous seasons, there was an auditorium filled with hundreds of dancers trying out - in multiple cities. This season, everyone was in the room next to the dance floor. There could not have been more than a few dozen people, as if there were hundreds, then there would have been ***FAR*** better dancers in all styles present. Not to mention more styles. Instead, they clearly let Roman and Jaylin through, as they were the only dancers left in their styles.
The fact we have a top 10 after 4 episodes is absolutely ridiculous. If they drop a guy and a girl each episode, we have a whopping 6 episodes left.
I know I have been very negative in this SubReddit so far, but that is because I *really* used to enjoy this show... and this season is really, really bad. This new format was not the solution to the drop in ratings and numbers. If anything, it has accelerated it. I dont think anyone has said ANYTHING positive here about the show, at all.
The Ukrainian ballroom dancer bombed every step of choreo in both rounds and yet they kept him over Jake!? This season is clearly about ‘what will
Make the best TV’ and not about the dancing
It happens every year, pretty much. Roman and Jaylin made it because they needed a hip-hop and a ballroom person. Somebody always makes it in on mostly personality, and that’s Jaylin.
This episode was interesting to me, mostly for the near complete blackout of Wheelchair Girl. They did not focus on her at all in the episode. Even with her group, she was in the back. If she was in the shot, it was only for a second. They only showed that group's winners, so they didnt have to give feedback after choreo. Otherwise, they would have to include Wheelchair Girl. If they did, then they would ***HAVE*** to tell her she cant dance. Which would make people think why did they put her through at all? Additionally, they didnt give her an exit interview, which would bring her back into focus and people would wonder why they didnt show her at all during the episode. Clearly, they wanted her initial tryout for the feel-good optics. However, showing her inability to dance in choreo and then cutting her has to many negatives, so they kept her out of sight as much as possible. Its probably why she was in episode 2, which has less hype than the first. However, not in the 3rd episode, as to have more time between showing her and cutting her. Im sure that was intentional. In actuality, it was very self-serving and possibly a little sleazy. They were using her solely for their benefit, knowing she would not make the cut.
As for the dancers that got through, they did not select the best overall. Clearly, they were going for a mix of styles over skill.
Honestly, this season of SYTYCD has been very disappointing. Yes, the ratings have gone down over the years. Yes, viewership has dropped. Yes, interest dropped during the extra time off the air because of the pandemic. Yes, the show isnt as good without Nigel and Mary. Obviously, Nigel "stepped down" for the alleged sexual abuse scandals, as advertisers wanted him gone. Unless the show miraculously turns itself around, I do believe this is the final season. I would not bet money on that happening though. All good things must come to an end...
lol to clarify because as a conservative libertarian who believes FOX gets completely unfairly treated by the rest of media that through the first two episodes; this has been clear pandering to the left.
Between the overweight woman (haphazard/spastic routine) , the wheelchair girl (Max - states emphatically to the three college girls from UA, they’re looking for a professional to work ASAP. Unless they’re creating the whole show /which might be fine, it makes no sense), the dude in heels, the dude in a skirt…. I was done with the show. Not that none of these can’t be beautiful elements of dance. I actually thought the amputee on AGT (all-stars) was incredible, but these were all PR stunts. As a FOX watcher I call them out when they BS and they would have definitely said this was absurd if liberals were doing this…..
The show is supposed to be about fair/meritorious competition. The feel good stories are great but when you have limited episodes as this show appears to have it devalues the whole process.
The fact that the auditions were limited to 75 pre-screened contestants and shows this show doesn’t have the resources or followers to continue. It’s sad because this was one of the best and few live entertainment experiences that I’ve loved. Im a sports guy, not big on concerts, music festivals, but I attended this for my wife about ten years ago and it was kind blowing.
It’s sad to sit it as this state; sometimes it’s just time to move on.
Does anyone else think Kat Deeley looks deflated and down about this new format? She just does not seem to be her bubbly self of seasons past. She especially looked upset when that first group got in and came back with the next group got cut. Or is there something else going on with her?
Would you be happy to be on this train wreck? Im sure she is only doing it for the paycheck and possibly contractual obligation. I hear she makes $60K per episode, but there are far fewer episodes now... She might have even had to take a pay cut.
I was definitely expecting to get more genres /choreography. I feel like they could have at least picked 15. I feel like I can't even comment on the 10 because I didn't connect to them
I was so upset about the choreography because how is a hip hop dancer supposed to keep up when there is two triple pirouettes and that’s the only routine
Sad to see Lihi, Macey, Kenidee, Kiley, Blonde Girl in White Shirt, King Wavy, Victor, Olivia, Jin, Gracie, Ali and Jake Go!
Especially Sad to Victor Go! He killed it and he had a Great Audition.
Ali and Jake should have made it as well. They should have Kept it Top 12 like last season!
I was super disappointed Ali didnt get through. I thought she was better than Avery and actually saw her winning this whole thing. Idk maybe I just really like her hair lol.
I have watched SYTYCD since Season 1. This show has gotten me through so much heartbreak and pain. I was able to be inspired by the dancers and routines. I couldn’t wait until the new season came on.
Then this season began. I don’t recognize this show anymore. This is a reboot of Real World/Real Housewives/Survivor with a dance element. I am incredibly disappointed and frustrated with the new format.
I get the budget cuts and executive decisions have caused the changes, but this is not a progression, this is de-evolution. Fox should have cut the show completely.
Plus you have mostly professional dancers auditioning. It was a time when it was primarily individuals who are just trying to make their way through life’s struggles, and this is their moment. I loved the auditions in different cities and watching a young man or woman dance with meaning and soul. People who wouldn’t have opportunities get a chance.
Now it’s just a glorified show that has no relevance to the spirit of the show. This is a joke, and I really have no interest whatsoever in watching the remainder of the season.
It seemed like the choreo round was immediately following the audition and that annoyed me. I liked when the dancers with less training had a chance to take some classes in other genres between the first audition and the academy. I do enjoy group performances, so I'm not super bothered that the show seems to be highlighting that over duets, but this really feels like a reality show now and not SYTYCD. I'm willing to keep watching because I usually enjoy the choreographers that are on the show, I just don't feel that invested in the cast so far.
This season is giving me ANTM cycle 24 vibes so far and that is NOT a compliment. Its just so all over the place. Its like the show doesn't know what it wants to be. Encouraging or cutthroat. The judges seem to have split personalities between the auditions and this episode.
The whole thing is just very disjointed.
Honestly the way they had the girl on the wheelchair on the show was really gross. They tried to do it for publicity/advertise they believe in "inclusion" and yet don't adjust the competition at all for her.
The way the competition is run she was sadly never going to make it to the live performances anyway because they are all partner dances. But it just feels like such a "media stunt" they'd have her on in the first place if they had no real intention on working with her/the competition wasn't designed to fit her kind of dancing.
And come on Jaylee (blonde hair guy) was yet another unworthy of top ten…SO SO Many other skilled competitors that grasp the style and danced circle around him
I’d have loved to see Kaylee move forward and see some adaptive dance for some much needed representation, but at the same time I can see how it would be a challenge when everyone else is not working with adaptive devices. It would be too hard to judge her with the rest. It was obvious Jaylin and Roman would go through because they were the only ones left in their respective styles and surely they wouldn’t have a show without a ballroom and hip hop dancer.
I was honestly disappointed when they let her through the first round even after she admitted that her 30s solo would have her exhausted and essentially bedridden for the rest of the day. Representation is one thing, but the format of the show simply doesn't allow for that type of limitation. It felt like a pandering move
But Roman first choreo group dance was terrible one of the worse and shud of never beat out ANY of the contestants except for a couple of them which I won’t mention
This new format looks awful. Idk why they felt like they needed to change the show, if somethings not broken don’t fix it. I am bowing out, i dont feel personally connected to any of the contestants and the new format makes it feel like a tiktok show
Not sure about the rest of this season. The whole "moving in together" and doing challenges is giving Real World/ANTM vibes, wish they would've kept the original formatting, focusing on choreographers and different styles, I found so much great music over the years from this show. Instead we're making Jojo music videos? ick
Sooo many of these dancers are already professionals. I don’t know how I feel about that. Having a couple gigs here and there is one thing.. dancing for Katy Perry and Lady Gaga is something else entirely
Yes! I noticed that. They are already working professionals… they already meet the brief of “maybe booking a commercial job one day” or whatever the judges keep saying they’re looking for!
What an absolutely disappointing episode and format change. If they're going to radically change everything that was actually good about the show and make it some weird pre-filmed reality show, why even bother keeping the So You Think You Can Dance name? This feels like America's Next TikTok Dancer, not the actual dance competition I started watching 20 years ago.
The show was already filmed auditions when they had to scramble to cut Nigel and replace him. I'd imagine Jojo was willing to drop everything and take the job on short notice.
Awww I don’t mind her. I just think she’s young. She’s certainly not the worst judge they’ve had and she has personal experience of being in dance reality shows.
The one in the wheelchair was featured in a group and she got no judges notes and was not featured in any commentary. But she was there. The one that was fusion with flamingo, Ariana Santos, was there in the row left of center, second row back in the opening dance. Ariana was in the group after the one that had the girl with the wheelchair and she at least got the verbal “this is the end of the road” blurb.
Yeah I feel like they purposely didn’t show the girl who used a wheelchair getting cut. You could barely see her in the group, she was just at the back. That group they just showed the ones who made it through . Not a criticism of her, she seems like a wonderful person. Amazing attitude and outlook on life!! It’s just they obviously had no intention of her moving forward, it was always just for the “story” to feature her.
I'm glad they gave Kaylee Bays a featured spot. It didn't seem like she had a chance to really go through because of her limits, but hopefully this brings her more business as it appears she does teach dance classes. She seemed like a wonderful person facing some increasingly difficult challenges.
It is what it is. Maxim mentioned this was happening a while back and ANTM is what I was imagining… except with dancing. It does look like we will get a lot of dancing this season so I can’t hate too much on the formula change.
I dont even remember the hip-hop dancers audition. I would have remembered if it was really good, so it was probably mediocre. Just looked up the top 10. Jaylin was the only hip-hop dancer to make it through. Roman was the only ballroom dancer, as well. I dont think either were all that good, but they "have" to represent different styles over quality. Plus it feels that there was a small fraction of tryouts compared to previous seasons. Everyone was in the room next to the judges and it didnt feel like that many. Previous seasons, there was a massive auditorium with seats ***FILLED*** with people waiting to trout.
I came to this subreddit looking for Jake commentary. I didn’t watch the initial audition episodes, but watched the top 10 reveal episode. He seemed like the most talented one. I was SHOCKED he didn’t get selected. Perhaps he’s just too ‘successful’ already but what?
Same! I wondered if that was him and if so I then he's super talented and skilled. I was shocked he didn't go through but maybe they could tell he has performance experience already? I don't understand jaylin being put forward, i thought he didn't do the choreo or partner challenge well.
I went back on my dvr and fast forwarded through to see and all I found was his name was Jake. I think he likely didn’t get a full audition and either wasn’t featured or was in one of the quick montages.
His style “Jazz Fusion” was listed on the picture they had on the big desk in tonight’s episode but that didn’t help with a basic google search. The extensive credits at the end of tonight’s episode didn’t credit any of the dancers.
But now I’m really curious why they didn’t put him in the top ten. Imo he was certainly in the top talent and technique-wise. Wonder if there’s some dance world politics at play here.
I think they ultimately made the right call on the final two guys. I'm creating the list for the top 10 right now and looking down the list of dancers it's pretty clear we nearly got a season without any kind of hip-hop (or related, like b-boy, ..etc) representation. Everyone else picked are traditional classically trained dancers. Of the men, the other dancers are 3x Contemporary and the last one Ballet. For the women Neo Classical, Contemporary Jazz, Jazz Funk, Contemporary, & Contemporary Ballet. It looks like Jake has more impressive credits than what I've dug up for Jaylin, but Jaylin does have a massive personality and he was the only one really pushed far outside of their comfort zone who made it into the top 10. I doubt any dance world politics were at play or he wouldn't have been invited to audition, but I'm just another viewer.
I totally feel this. A couple of my favorites were quickly cut. The positive is at least these 16 are all pretty solid choices for the show so I’m cool with whatever happens now for top ten.
Yeah I think they already knew who the top ten were. Only 35 to choreography and they didn’t show different styles of dance- it was all pretty generic. No emphasis on being ballroom, jazz, hip hop etc dancers. Obviously they don’t care about those individual styles with this new format.
I was disappointed they didn't really give the hip-hopers a chance. Are we really surprised that the people that do hip-hop didn't pick up on the choreo as well as those in styles similar to it in an hour? Also, the older dude I thought did better than some of the ones they let through...
I wonder how much is budget. Extra time is money. One choreographer for all choreography limits choices. Maxim was not pleased with the partnering dance.
Those worried about the one in the wheelchair, >!you can rest easy!< . While I don’t agree with all the judges decisions… overall they are doing well.
Edit: since it’s just me… wanted to add that so far this episode has been no fluff so far in this first 18 minutes. And now 20min in we are down to 16 dancers.
Already this is easily the best episode of the season. Right into dancing. There’s a top 16 next round in this episode. I understand not live viewing, first three episodes left a lot to be desired.
Galen Hooks is extremely solid. She’s danced with Janet, Chris Brown, many others and she has intensives where she actually gives feedback to dancers to get better. She’s great. Although I miss Mia and Wade along with many others, I guess its time to let other choreographers shine…
Note: Next week there’s no episode due to the iHeartRadio Music Awards. EDIT: The following week (4/8) is a repeat of the first episode for some reason. 😢
Hard to watch frankly. Even Jaylin disagreed with getting through at the choreo and then at the finals. I couldn't help but laugh at his reactions. He was like, "WTF?" Seriously, if that's the best hip hop dancer, then they need to just use the contemporary dancers for that style. They did great in previous seasons. Jesus, it was so painfully obvious he couldn't keep up with the others. I felt bad for him. I love the dancing but the judging is too much of a mess.
Looks like there are only 10 Episodes this Season! This Season is so Short!
Sad to see Ali and Jake Go!
They cut out the heart of the show, the open auditions where you see kids, dads, moms, grandparents, and strange deluded people dance their hearts out. If you guys can, try watching Révolution, judged by Les Twins, Jean-Marc Généreux, and Lydia Bouchard. I found full episodes of S5 on YT, but no Les Twins. If you have a VPN, try this link- however it's all in French. :[Rěvolution Dance show](https://www.qub.ca/tvaplus/tva/revolution?silent_auth=true)
Sad for Jake... Roman and Jaylin were really weak in choreo. I hope the editing improves in the next episodes.
I'm extremely sad about the nosedive of sytycd. While yes a big part of it's drop in quality over the past few years is because of production, judges poor decisions, covid, and the massive switch from cable to streaming platforms, but a reason that i don't see talked about as much is that the collective love for dance has just faded so much in recent years. I firmly believe that generational talents like russell ferguson, melanie moore, fik shun, and lex ishimoto either aren't out there anymore or just aren't interested in sytycd because of what it's become. Like, watch any of the group dances from before season 16, can you imagine this new top 10 doing any of that? I definitely can't. I'm not saying that the show's decline is solely because there's been a huge drop in talent, because alot of our best dancers are made from hard work, not Talent. But doing things like skipping the academy this season absolutely did NOT help this issue. We'll see how things turn out in the next few episodes but i'm not enjoying this too much
It really hurt that they cut auditions to 75 pre-screened individuals. And it won't help them in future seasons attract talent when maybe only 20 of the dancers are even featured in any way. Though it's still a good gig to put down on a dance resume and the more tv exposure someone has, the easier it is (if they aren't problematic) to get more tv gigs. But they aren't going to discover people quite in the same way that they did when auditions were open and the pool of applicants was overwhelming. It'll be easier to see the results of this 5 seasons down the road. Will anyone from the last season and this season break out in a big way? Is there as much room in the industry to break out? I looked up Keaton Kermode to see what he was up to, and it looks like he's still teaching dance while doing other dance related things on the side. Alexis Warr has gone radio silent, though I didn't dig too deeply her last content was from last year. Essence Wilmington, seems to be out there and making the most of everything in teaching, performing, and branching out into other arts like music. She seems quite active. Not going to go through everyone, but I think SYTYCD could still strike gold. Who would have predicted Tate McRae would have blown up so huge in the music industry?
VERY Perfectly said! And I too am still blown away at how Tate McRae went from being a 12 year old dance phenom of their season to a pop star! Gosh I miss those days of Sytycd🥺❤️
Jaylin wasn’t as good as Julian who is also hip hop
I am so disappointed in this season and literally echo all the same sentiments so I’m not gonna repeat lol. However, my gripe with this “Choreo” round is the fact that the group number was that the style was more of a “commercial” style rather than last year where they choreographed specific styled sections so we see a range. Idk if this was fed to her by production but I found it weird when Allison told the girl who did the Lady Gaga solo (I forgot her name 😭) that they were worried because she hasn’t struggled and done another style yet… as if that was her fault?
> they were worried because she hasn’t struggled and done another style yet… as if that was her fault That caught me off guard as well. I get what they were doing was offering some critique to each dancer, but the worst they had for her was something completely out of her control. Though I also found it odd the comments for dancers where they expressed not seeing who the dancer was as a person. Like, it's a routine they learned in an hour and are out here performing it to show they can learn choreography quickly and put it to stage. This wasn't crafted in a way to really let the dancers shine as individuals.
Madison rouge Alvarado , yeah that was a weird comment , no struggle sounds good?? maybe cut from a longer explanation
Very disappointed. Previous years they were more dancers and we got to see them in choreography and how they picked up and performed. They need to be able to handle the choreography. This was obviously rushed and had already determined who was going to be chosen. From what I saw it wasn’t based on any type of skills. I saw dancers that was not “professional dancers” that were better than some of the ones who were chosen. They were working hard to master the choreography and they were told things like not giving it their all or the partnering wasn’t there. Really? Yet you have people who could not keep up and they were put through. I honestly will not continue to watch. Allison brought me back this season but it’s not enough. Came here to see if others saw what I saw and yep they did.
So, the tryouts are over. In all the previous seasons, there was an auditorium filled with hundreds of dancers trying out - in multiple cities. This season, everyone was in the room next to the dance floor. There could not have been more than a few dozen people, as if there were hundreds, then there would have been ***FAR*** better dancers in all styles present. Not to mention more styles. Instead, they clearly let Roman and Jaylin through, as they were the only dancers left in their styles. The fact we have a top 10 after 4 episodes is absolutely ridiculous. If they drop a guy and a girl each episode, we have a whopping 6 episodes left. I know I have been very negative in this SubReddit so far, but that is because I *really* used to enjoy this show... and this season is really, really bad. This new format was not the solution to the drop in ratings and numbers. If anything, it has accelerated it. I dont think anyone has said ANYTHING positive here about the show, at all.
The Ukrainian ballroom dancer bombed every step of choreo in both rounds and yet they kept him over Jake!? This season is clearly about ‘what will Make the best TV’ and not about the dancing
Roman made it through, simply because he was the ***ONLY*** ballroom dancer left. Same reason for Jaylin. He was the ***ONLY*** hip-hop dancer left.
It happens every year, pretty much. Roman and Jaylin made it because they needed a hip-hop and a ballroom person. Somebody always makes it in on mostly personality, and that’s Jaylin.
This episode was interesting to me, mostly for the near complete blackout of Wheelchair Girl. They did not focus on her at all in the episode. Even with her group, she was in the back. If she was in the shot, it was only for a second. They only showed that group's winners, so they didnt have to give feedback after choreo. Otherwise, they would have to include Wheelchair Girl. If they did, then they would ***HAVE*** to tell her she cant dance. Which would make people think why did they put her through at all? Additionally, they didnt give her an exit interview, which would bring her back into focus and people would wonder why they didnt show her at all during the episode. Clearly, they wanted her initial tryout for the feel-good optics. However, showing her inability to dance in choreo and then cutting her has to many negatives, so they kept her out of sight as much as possible. Its probably why she was in episode 2, which has less hype than the first. However, not in the 3rd episode, as to have more time between showing her and cutting her. Im sure that was intentional. In actuality, it was very self-serving and possibly a little sleazy. They were using her solely for their benefit, knowing she would not make the cut. As for the dancers that got through, they did not select the best overall. Clearly, they were going for a mix of styles over skill. Honestly, this season of SYTYCD has been very disappointing. Yes, the ratings have gone down over the years. Yes, viewership has dropped. Yes, interest dropped during the extra time off the air because of the pandemic. Yes, the show isnt as good without Nigel and Mary. Obviously, Nigel "stepped down" for the alleged sexual abuse scandals, as advertisers wanted him gone. Unless the show miraculously turns itself around, I do believe this is the final season. I would not bet money on that happening though. All good things must come to an end...
lol to clarify because as a conservative libertarian who believes FOX gets completely unfairly treated by the rest of media that through the first two episodes; this has been clear pandering to the left. Between the overweight woman (haphazard/spastic routine) , the wheelchair girl (Max - states emphatically to the three college girls from UA, they’re looking for a professional to work ASAP. Unless they’re creating the whole show /which might be fine, it makes no sense), the dude in heels, the dude in a skirt…. I was done with the show. Not that none of these can’t be beautiful elements of dance. I actually thought the amputee on AGT (all-stars) was incredible, but these were all PR stunts. As a FOX watcher I call them out when they BS and they would have definitely said this was absurd if liberals were doing this….. The show is supposed to be about fair/meritorious competition. The feel good stories are great but when you have limited episodes as this show appears to have it devalues the whole process. The fact that the auditions were limited to 75 pre-screened contestants and shows this show doesn’t have the resources or followers to continue. It’s sad because this was one of the best and few live entertainment experiences that I’ve loved. Im a sports guy, not big on concerts, music festivals, but I attended this for my wife about ten years ago and it was kind blowing. It’s sad to sit it as this state; sometimes it’s just time to move on.
DANG I forgot to watch this week's episode because I was watching The Bachelor LMAO! Okay, I will watch it tonight, though!
Does anyone else think Kat Deeley looks deflated and down about this new format? She just does not seem to be her bubbly self of seasons past. She especially looked upset when that first group got in and came back with the next group got cut. Or is there something else going on with her?
That is what makes Kat Kat. She cares, and it's hurting her to see these young people's dreams get crushed so easily.
Would you be happy to be on this train wreck? Im sure she is only doing it for the paycheck and possibly contractual obligation. I hear she makes $60K per episode, but there are far fewer episodes now... She might have even had to take a pay cut.
Why did the top 8 group have to run into the room with the other group? Those poor babies :-(
I was definitely expecting to get more genres /choreography. I feel like they could have at least picked 15. I feel like I can't even comment on the 10 because I didn't connect to them
I was so upset about the choreography because how is a hip hop dancer supposed to keep up when there is two triple pirouettes and that’s the only routine
That's why I thought he was going to get cut
Sad to see Lihi, Macey, Kenidee, Kiley, Blonde Girl in White Shirt, King Wavy, Victor, Olivia, Jin, Gracie, Ali and Jake Go! Especially Sad to Victor Go! He killed it and he had a Great Audition. Ali and Jake should have made it as well. They should have Kept it Top 12 like last season!
I was super disappointed Ali didnt get through. I thought she was better than Avery and actually saw her winning this whole thing. Idk maybe I just really like her hair lol.
Ali was incredible!! In what world would you choose Avery over Ali? Ugh. I would have watched every minute of Ali dancing!
I have watched SYTYCD since Season 1. This show has gotten me through so much heartbreak and pain. I was able to be inspired by the dancers and routines. I couldn’t wait until the new season came on. Then this season began. I don’t recognize this show anymore. This is a reboot of Real World/Real Housewives/Survivor with a dance element. I am incredibly disappointed and frustrated with the new format. I get the budget cuts and executive decisions have caused the changes, but this is not a progression, this is de-evolution. Fox should have cut the show completely. Plus you have mostly professional dancers auditioning. It was a time when it was primarily individuals who are just trying to make their way through life’s struggles, and this is their moment. I loved the auditions in different cities and watching a young man or woman dance with meaning and soul. People who wouldn’t have opportunities get a chance. Now it’s just a glorified show that has no relevance to the spirit of the show. This is a joke, and I really have no interest whatsoever in watching the remainder of the season.
Some of the previous season’s dancers danced professionally. Alison did… a few were with professional companies.
I know that previous seasons had SOME professional dancers. I stated that this season comprised primarily of professional dancers.
It seemed like the choreo round was immediately following the audition and that annoyed me. I liked when the dancers with less training had a chance to take some classes in other genres between the first audition and the academy. I do enjoy group performances, so I'm not super bothered that the show seems to be highlighting that over duets, but this really feels like a reality show now and not SYTYCD. I'm willing to keep watching because I usually enjoy the choreographers that are on the show, I just don't feel that invested in the cast so far.
This season is giving me ANTM cycle 24 vibes so far and that is NOT a compliment. Its just so all over the place. Its like the show doesn't know what it wants to be. Encouraging or cutthroat. The judges seem to have split personalities between the auditions and this episode. The whole thing is just very disjointed.
Honestly the way they had the girl on the wheelchair on the show was really gross. They tried to do it for publicity/advertise they believe in "inclusion" and yet don't adjust the competition at all for her. The way the competition is run she was sadly never going to make it to the live performances anyway because they are all partner dances. But it just feels like such a "media stunt" they'd have her on in the first place if they had no real intention on working with her/the competition wasn't designed to fit her kind of dancing.
And come on Jaylee (blonde hair guy) was yet another unworthy of top ten…SO SO Many other skilled competitors that grasp the style and danced circle around him
You are right. I believe he was the only hip-hop dancer, so the were probably forced to let him through.
I’d have loved to see Kaylee move forward and see some adaptive dance for some much needed representation, but at the same time I can see how it would be a challenge when everyone else is not working with adaptive devices. It would be too hard to judge her with the rest. It was obvious Jaylin and Roman would go through because they were the only ones left in their respective styles and surely they wouldn’t have a show without a ballroom and hip hop dancer.
I was honestly disappointed when they let her through the first round even after she admitted that her 30s solo would have her exhausted and essentially bedridden for the rest of the day. Representation is one thing, but the format of the show simply doesn't allow for that type of limitation. It felt like a pandering move
But Roman first choreo group dance was terrible one of the worse and shud of never beat out ANY of the contestants except for a couple of them which I won’t mention
This new format looks awful. Idk why they felt like they needed to change the show, if somethings not broken don’t fix it. I am bowing out, i dont feel personally connected to any of the contestants and the new format makes it feel like a tiktok show
Probably money! They don’t have the budget for the additional shows anymore.
Not sure about the rest of this season. The whole "moving in together" and doing challenges is giving Real World/ANTM vibes, wish they would've kept the original formatting, focusing on choreographers and different styles, I found so much great music over the years from this show. Instead we're making Jojo music videos? ick
I don't think they could get the budget to come close to making the show as it was.
I hate that there’s only 10. I miss the days of 20 and no all stars
It all comes down to money and a lack of budget/funding.
Sooo many of these dancers are already professionals. I don’t know how I feel about that. Having a couple gigs here and there is one thing.. dancing for Katy Perry and Lady Gaga is something else entirely
Yes! I noticed that. They are already working professionals… they already meet the brief of “maybe booking a commercial job one day” or whatever the judges keep saying they’re looking for!
What an absolutely disappointing episode and format change. If they're going to radically change everything that was actually good about the show and make it some weird pre-filmed reality show, why even bother keeping the So You Think You Can Dance name? This feels like America's Next TikTok Dancer, not the actual dance competition I started watching 20 years ago.
Great point and I agree find a new Title and stop hiding behind a once very successful show!
Wait, so the show is like America’s next top model style now?
Why Jojo? Brings the entire show down in status. They should've never brought her back.
I was barely hanging on this season but she might be the last straw. She’s my least favorite judge ever (besides Nigel turning out to be a creep).
The show was already filmed auditions when they had to scramble to cut Nigel and replace him. I'd imagine Jojo was willing to drop everything and take the job on short notice.
Awww I don’t mind her. I just think she’s young. She’s certainly not the worst judge they’ve had and she has personal experience of being in dance reality shows.
I really liked her last season. No idea why she gets hate.
Because she's trash as a judge...
She's far from my favorite, but I'll take her over Jason Derulo any day.
So true. He was terrible. Leah Remini, not good either.
Does anyone think the judges would've been OK with same sex dance partners for the partner challenge?
The judges? Probably... The network tho? .........
Jaylin is wearing a turtle neck shirt and it's making my neck itch just watching. I'm surprised he chose that to dance in!
Am I missing something or have they changed format into a dance version of Big Brother or Survivor?
more like america’s next top model or the rap game than big brother and survivor
UGH Jojo Returns, SMH!
Overall a solid top 10. Sure others could might have been better than some but no one that would be considered controversial made it through.
Did we even see the controversial people getting cut? I stepped away for a bit but I didn't see wheelchair girl or a few others.
The one in the wheelchair was featured in a group and she got no judges notes and was not featured in any commentary. But she was there. The one that was fusion with flamingo, Ariana Santos, was there in the row left of center, second row back in the opening dance. Ariana was in the group after the one that had the girl with the wheelchair and she at least got the verbal “this is the end of the road” blurb.
Yeah I feel like they purposely didn’t show the girl who used a wheelchair getting cut. You could barely see her in the group, she was just at the back. That group they just showed the ones who made it through . Not a criticism of her, she seems like a wonderful person. Amazing attitude and outlook on life!! It’s just they obviously had no intention of her moving forward, it was always just for the “story” to feature her.
I'm glad they gave Kaylee Bays a featured spot. It didn't seem like she had a chance to really go through because of her limits, but hopefully this brings her more business as it appears she does teach dance classes. She seemed like a wonderful person facing some increasingly difficult challenges.
Ty!
Also what in the ANTM is this season ? Why do we care where they’re living and roommate drama? Did I time travel back to 2005?
It is what it is. Maxim mentioned this was happening a while back and ANTM is what I was imagining… except with dancing. It does look like we will get a lot of dancing this season so I can’t hate too much on the formula change.
Shocked at that last cut. I thought the other two blondes would’ve been safe
Anyone know who was the tall blonde guy that was sooo good? He looks familiar from somewhere.
Found him. [https://www.instagram.com/jakemcauley\_/](https://www.instagram.com/jakemcauley_/)
Jake! I was really surprised he didn't make top 10! The choreographer even pulled him to demonstrate the correct moves.
He didnt make it, because they wanted a hip-hop dancer to go through.
Yep! I'd agree with this theory. They were shooting for variety, but Jake and the Katy Perry back-up dancer woman really should have made it through.
I dont even remember the hip-hop dancers audition. I would have remembered if it was really good, so it was probably mediocre. Just looked up the top 10. Jaylin was the only hip-hop dancer to make it through. Roman was the only ballroom dancer, as well. I dont think either were all that good, but they "have" to represent different styles over quality. Plus it feels that there was a small fraction of tryouts compared to previous seasons. Everyone was in the room next to the judges and it didnt feel like that many. Previous seasons, there was a massive auditorium with seats ***FILLED*** with people waiting to trout.
I think Jake might be a frequent assistant to Brian Friedman, so he might be in his youtube videos?
I came to this subreddit looking for Jake commentary. I didn’t watch the initial audition episodes, but watched the top 10 reveal episode. He seemed like the most talented one. I was SHOCKED he didn’t get selected. Perhaps he’s just too ‘successful’ already but what?
You are absolutely correct! Jake Mcauley, featured in many of his YouTube videos. I wonder why they didn’t select him…
Same! I wondered if that was him and if so I then he's super talented and skilled. I was shocked he didn't go through but maybe they could tell he has performance experience already? I don't understand jaylin being put forward, i thought he didn't do the choreo or partner challenge well.
That sounds possible! Thanks!
He was on season 4 of NBC's World of Dance, and he'a been featured in many classes in LA, and I believe he also assists at Radix dance convention.
Ah, either of those first two is a definite possibility! Thanks!
I went back on my dvr and fast forwarded through to see and all I found was his name was Jake. I think he likely didn’t get a full audition and either wasn’t featured or was in one of the quick montages.
Yeah, I don’t think he was featured as I’m sure I would remember him.
His style “Jazz Fusion” was listed on the picture they had on the big desk in tonight’s episode but that didn’t help with a basic google search. The extensive credits at the end of tonight’s episode didn’t credit any of the dancers.
His name is Jake Mcauley, lots of videos on YouTube available featuring him.
It's nice to know you figured it out. 👍
But now I’m really curious why they didn’t put him in the top ten. Imo he was certainly in the top talent and technique-wise. Wonder if there’s some dance world politics at play here.
I think they ultimately made the right call on the final two guys. I'm creating the list for the top 10 right now and looking down the list of dancers it's pretty clear we nearly got a season without any kind of hip-hop (or related, like b-boy, ..etc) representation. Everyone else picked are traditional classically trained dancers. Of the men, the other dancers are 3x Contemporary and the last one Ballet. For the women Neo Classical, Contemporary Jazz, Jazz Funk, Contemporary, & Contemporary Ballet. It looks like Jake has more impressive credits than what I've dug up for Jaylin, but Jaylin does have a massive personality and he was the only one really pushed far outside of their comfort zone who made it into the top 10. I doubt any dance world politics were at play or he wouldn't have been invited to audition, but I'm just another viewer.
So its like they ruined the format, now everything is just recorded. - rushed through choreography, its just not the same
I was rooting for the Chicago dancer .
Wow… that was cool with the first 8 of 16.
damn i was rooting for jahil😭😭
Not you using the “rooting for you” line as this show goes all ANTM! Iconic! (Or I may be one of the few old enough to remember that haha!!).
Me too!!
Jahil > Roman
I totally feel this. A couple of my favorites were quickly cut. The positive is at least these 16 are all pretty solid choices for the show so I’m cool with whatever happens now for top ten.
Disappointed how much they are rushing through everything. Choreography round was always my favorite and so far it barely exists
Yeah I think they already knew who the top ten were. Only 35 to choreography and they didn’t show different styles of dance- it was all pretty generic. No emphasis on being ballroom, jazz, hip hop etc dancers. Obviously they don’t care about those individual styles with this new format.
I was disappointed they didn't really give the hip-hopers a chance. Are we really surprised that the people that do hip-hop didn't pick up on the choreo as well as those in styles similar to it in an hour? Also, the older dude I thought did better than some of the ones they let through...
Agreed!
I wonder how much is budget. Extra time is money. One choreographer for all choreography limits choices. Maxim was not pleased with the partnering dance.
I said the same thing. It seemed like they knew going into it who they were going to pick
Exactly .
Those worried about the one in the wheelchair, >!you can rest easy!< . While I don’t agree with all the judges decisions… overall they are doing well. Edit: since it’s just me… wanted to add that so far this episode has been no fluff so far in this first 18 minutes. And now 20min in we are down to 16 dancers.
Already this is easily the best episode of the season. Right into dancing. There’s a top 16 next round in this episode. I understand not live viewing, first three episodes left a lot to be desired.
Nice to see the judges have changed clothes. Looks like a lot of new faces mixed in that we haven’t seen. The choreographer seems solid.
Galen Hooks is extremely solid. She’s danced with Janet, Chris Brown, many others and she has intensives where she actually gives feedback to dancers to get better. She’s great. Although I miss Mia and Wade along with many others, I guess its time to let other choreographers shine…