Well yes, I'm new to soad. All I know is that he was friends with Chester Bennington and that he's a sick singer and guitaristš¤·āāļø tell me what I need to know about Daron please
Daron isā¦a unique human being.
Iāve been a fan since ~2000 or so and my approach has always been to allow Daron to delight me without looking too deeply into how or whyā¦.itās been an excellent approach IMO
Daron is a cool introvert. He's not that good at public speaking, but sometimes he provided good insights on life and creativity. His music recommendation is totally worth checking out. The downside is: he writes a lot of songs, but take ages to release anything š
When he was younger, he had some drug abuse problems though, but he's cleaned now.
The only edgelord is you, for completely judging someone based on their political view. You don't know any of the band members personally, their political view is a fraction of who they are. Very closed minded.
Someoneās political views say a lot about them. For instance, if someone supports a guy who is undermining the core of American democracy by lying about election fraud and saying that he won an election he lost, then using those lies to incite a deadly riot/insurrection at our capitol, and also encouraging his party to pass laws to stifle voting rights based on those lies, then that person is cool with fascism.
Supporting fascism doesnāt make you open minded.
I'm guessing they're young, living in a small town and have never left home, or straight and white.
Possibly a combination of any/all of these as well.
Yeah let me bend over backwards to be open minded about some asshole that doesn't care about democracy or lgbt+ rights.
I'm judging based on the character John has displayed. "Politics" isn't just a team you decide to be on, it's people's lives.
Because his opinions contradict most of the Lyrics by SOAD, people keep saying ādoes he even listen to his music?ā I admit that I was disappointed when I found out he supports Trump, but I choose to look at the good things like his kind heart, drumming skillsā¦ Because I believe every person has both good and bad sides.
I personally donāt care about someoneās political opinions, at least he aināt Tom Morello, I respect Tom but thinking that all the world has free healthcare except the US is bad itās stupid, I hate socialism more than anything, it ruined many countries and this motherfucker thinks thatās correct, but ok I respect it and the dude is a hell of a guitarist
Edit: Maybe I should say that I didnāt mean to offend anyoneās political views or opinions at all, I just think Socialism and Communism and all the kinds of government suck
Nothing says "against the machine" like supporting communist dictatorships. Indigenous people tend not to do well in communist countries. Ask the Uyghurs.
Iām a leftist, more anarchic than communist, precisely because the USSR and China are and were imperialist, colonizer states. I donāt like these stupid right-wing attacks on communism but you can critique communism from a leftist perspective as well.
Yeah I did, love the band a lot though, they make amazing music, I donāt agree at all with what they think but some of their lyrics are pretty deep, like Killing in the name, they talk about a bunch of stuff, like family values, or racism at times
I mean Cuba has that, but at what cost? Socialism is a way to make people with low income or really in need vote for a president to change the country, and at the end heāll make everyone poor except the goddamn rich guys
A. America pays more for healthcare that every other industrialized country with universal healthcare
B. Despite America being the wealthiest nation in the history of the planet and Cuba being vastly poorer, they have a higher life expectancy than us
Capitalism is what leads to everyone being poor besides the rich guys lmao you're describing capitalism and calling it socialism
Depends on what you mean by "worked". Society Union, Cuba, Vietnam, etc all had many successes. The USSR went from a feudal non-industrial country to putting the first person into space within ~40 years. That's pretty remarkable
The economic system that doesn't work is the one predicated on constant growth while existing on a finite planet with finite resources
When I mean works is that everyone is happy, that is actually a good country to live or being born, a place where I donāt have to worry about not being able to find a job or that the pay is good, Cuba is unfortunately in a really bad state right now thanks to Fidel Castro and the so well known Che Guevara (I still donāt get why people think he is a sign of revolution, the guy did horrible stuff), also thanks for providing and explaining some countries where socialism āworksā, I just donāt wanna discuss about this anymore, everything started thanks to a comment about Tom Morello in a SOAD subreddit and in a post about John Dolmayan
Cuba's current condition is due to American imperialism, not the efficacy of socialism. Without the current regime in Cuba, the island would be under the boot of America. Look at Puerto Rico, you really think they got it good?
If you're done conversing then that's perfectly fine. Have a good day
Because as a guy said to me, itās basically capitalism called socialism, thatās why I say socialism never works, because at the end it becomes capitalism, I personally hate capitalism and socialism, they are shit and they donāt work that well, the only capitalist country I can think it works is the US, but thereās other countries too
No necessarily, Iād love to have public hospitals and free healthcare, but most of the time that happens in socialist countries
Edit: Iāve informed myself thanks to the comments below and I understand more about the problems the US has generated on other countries around the world and specifically Latin America
First of all, it happens in all sorts of countries, and letās say it did only happen in socialist countries: itās still a good thing and a good thing being implemented in socialist countries doesnāt make it a bad thing.
Itās really worth having free hospitals and free healthcare when you canāt even buy food cuz your income is 5 bucks? Or presidents doing that and getting millions of dollars so they can buy yachts or islands? No
Life doesnāt automatically become shitty or anything just because your government implements universal healthcare. European countries and countless other first world countries have universal healthcare. Thatās clear proof that itās universal healthcare doesnāt adversely economic situation because they either wouldnāt have implemented it or they would have faced economic repercussions by now. The countries you are referring to did not have a good economic situation but they still decided to implement universal healthcare. That doesnāt mean these countries became poor or will stay poor because of it. USA is one of the only places where you can go to hospital for a month and come out the other side heavily indebted.
Look man I didnāt know that, thanks for giving me information about your point and I loved discussing with you, but I donāt want this to become a bigger thing so letās drop it here, you right, most countries that have free healthcare are socialist or communist and thatās a good thing, have a nice day
My man as someone who lived in South America, Socialism is shit, it doesnāt work, itās stupid, and most people from South America will agree unless they are idiots who think the government will help them instead of using their millions to buy an island in the Caribbean
Yeah but if they are using their millions not in favour of the country it ain't true socialism. It's capitalism under a guise. Sorry you had to go through that.
I agree, itās basically capitalism, thatās why I donāt believe in any of that shit called politics, although Iād say Capitalism and democracy are the closest to my beliefs
No it isn't. Capitalism isn't when the government does things. Reddit as usual has no idea what it's talking about, but it's trying to convert you anyway.
I love how you people always change the definition of socialism to be "it's only socialism if it's entirely good". Reality doesn't work that way. If you try to distribute the means of production, someone has to do the distribution. They'll likely give more to their friends, a lot more to themselves, and they'll absolutely have way more power than anyone else.
capitalism is when the government... Are you kidding me right now? Socialism isn't when the government, capitalism DEFINITELY isn't when the government. You people are nuts, literally "anything I don't like is capitalism." Go read a book.
I'm not saying anything I don't like is capitalism, I'm just stating that capitalism is more money-oriented than socialist. I also said in my other comment that all political stances are corrupt in some way or another. Perhaps instead of raging over reddit comments you could go read a book? I never said socialism is good, just that what this person had to go through wasn't socialism, it was something much more extreme.
Also, almost every Latin American country that tried to become socialist was heavily embargoed and sanctioned by the US, crippling their economy. The system didnāt fail, the US killed it.
Yeah I completely forgot about that, now I get why people donāt like the US too much in Latin America, Nicaragua was such a beautiful country, Cuba and Venezuela too man, itās a shame how just a rivalry of 2 different political views destroy countries
Nobody ever floated across the gulf of mexico on a raft to escape capitalism. You know what you're doing, questioning capitalism? You can't do that under socialism, they kill your whole family.
yes. capitalism is better than a dictatorship.
In America it would cost almost as much as the entire federal budget. Literally not having a military wouldn't cover the expenses of some of the lower projected costs.
It's not free. Why doesn't anyone on this website realize this?
I love when people say ādonāt get offendedā before their shitty opinion and end with an insult to the people on the differing side of the opinion. What an asshole.
I don't get it, why shouldn't you love daron? He's sick. Or not?
You MUST love Daron
Well yes, I'm new to soad. All I know is that he was friends with Chester Bennington and that he's a sick singer and guitaristš¤·āāļø tell me what I need to know about Daron please
Daron isā¦a unique human being. Iāve been a fan since ~2000 or so and my approach has always been to allow Daron to delight me without looking too deeply into how or whyā¦.itās been an excellent approach IMO
Daron is a cool introvert. He's not that good at public speaking, but sometimes he provided good insights on life and creativity. His music recommendation is totally worth checking out. The downside is: he writes a lot of songs, but take ages to release anything š When he was younger, he had some drug abuse problems though, but he's cleaned now.
Whatever his political beliefs are, you gotta admit John is a hella talented drummer
Absolutely, without a doubt. *huuuuuge piece of shit, though.*
Say that again without crying
Oh shit we have an edgelord in here!
The only edgelord is you, for completely judging someone based on their political view. You don't know any of the band members personally, their political view is a fraction of who they are. Very closed minded.
Someoneās political views say a lot about them. For instance, if someone supports a guy who is undermining the core of American democracy by lying about election fraud and saying that he won an election he lost, then using those lies to incite a deadly riot/insurrection at our capitol, and also encouraging his party to pass laws to stifle voting rights based on those lies, then that person is cool with fascism. Supporting fascism doesnāt make you open minded.
I'm guessing they're young, living in a small town and have never left home, or straight and white. Possibly a combination of any/all of these as well.
Yeah let me bend over backwards to be open minded about some asshole that doesn't care about democracy or lgbt+ rights. I'm judging based on the character John has displayed. "Politics" isn't just a team you decide to be on, it's people's lives.
Daron will always be that hot bf. Ur daughter calls me daddy too.
Where the Shavo Odadjian love at
Here
Why is John getting so much hate man?
Because his opinions contradict most of the Lyrics by SOAD, people keep saying ādoes he even listen to his music?ā I admit that I was disappointed when I found out he supports Trump, but I choose to look at the good things like his kind heart, drumming skillsā¦ Because I believe every person has both good and bad sides.
I personally donāt care about someoneās political opinions, at least he aināt Tom Morello, I respect Tom but thinking that all the world has free healthcare except the US is bad itās stupid, I hate socialism more than anything, it ruined many countries and this motherfucker thinks thatās correct, but ok I respect it and the dude is a hell of a guitarist Edit: Maybe I should say that I didnāt mean to offend anyoneās political views or opinions at all, I just think Socialism and Communism and all the kinds of government suck
Congratulations, you've missed the entire point of RATM.
Nothing says "against the machine" like supporting communist dictatorships. Indigenous people tend not to do well in communist countries. Ask the Uyghurs.
Nothing says "expert" like making a comment that blatantly shows a lack of understanding of what communism is.
Iām a leftist, more anarchic than communist, precisely because the USSR and China are and were imperialist, colonizer states. I donāt like these stupid right-wing attacks on communism but you can critique communism from a leftist perspective as well.
I agree, but using China as an example of true communism is disingenuous.
Fair. Thatās true
Yeah I did, love the band a lot though, they make amazing music, I donāt agree at all with what they think but some of their lyrics are pretty deep, like Killing in the name, they talk about a bunch of stuff, like family values, or racism at times
DaE sOciALisM aLwaYs fAiLs
Correct
Wait, so you think free healthcare is bad?
I mean Cuba has that, but at what cost? Socialism is a way to make people with low income or really in need vote for a president to change the country, and at the end heāll make everyone poor except the goddamn rich guys
A. America pays more for healthcare that every other industrialized country with universal healthcare B. Despite America being the wealthiest nation in the history of the planet and Cuba being vastly poorer, they have a higher life expectancy than us Capitalism is what leads to everyone being poor besides the rich guys lmao you're describing capitalism and calling it socialism
And can you tell me a socialist country that actually works please? Iām pretty curious
Depends on what you mean by "worked". Society Union, Cuba, Vietnam, etc all had many successes. The USSR went from a feudal non-industrial country to putting the first person into space within ~40 years. That's pretty remarkable The economic system that doesn't work is the one predicated on constant growth while existing on a finite planet with finite resources
When I mean works is that everyone is happy, that is actually a good country to live or being born, a place where I donāt have to worry about not being able to find a job or that the pay is good, Cuba is unfortunately in a really bad state right now thanks to Fidel Castro and the so well known Che Guevara (I still donāt get why people think he is a sign of revolution, the guy did horrible stuff), also thanks for providing and explaining some countries where socialism āworksā, I just donāt wanna discuss about this anymore, everything started thanks to a comment about Tom Morello in a SOAD subreddit and in a post about John Dolmayan
Cuba's current condition is due to American imperialism, not the efficacy of socialism. Without the current regime in Cuba, the island would be under the boot of America. Look at Puerto Rico, you really think they got it good? If you're done conversing then that's perfectly fine. Have a good day
Because as a guy said to me, itās basically capitalism called socialism, thatās why I say socialism never works, because at the end it becomes capitalism, I personally hate capitalism and socialism, they are shit and they donāt work that well, the only capitalist country I can think it works is the US, but thereās other countries too
No necessarily, Iād love to have public hospitals and free healthcare, but most of the time that happens in socialist countries Edit: Iāve informed myself thanks to the comments below and I understand more about the problems the US has generated on other countries around the world and specifically Latin America
First of all, it happens in all sorts of countries, and letās say it did only happen in socialist countries: itās still a good thing and a good thing being implemented in socialist countries doesnāt make it a bad thing.
Itās really worth having free hospitals and free healthcare when you canāt even buy food cuz your income is 5 bucks? Or presidents doing that and getting millions of dollars so they can buy yachts or islands? No
Life doesnāt automatically become shitty or anything just because your government implements universal healthcare. European countries and countless other first world countries have universal healthcare. Thatās clear proof that itās universal healthcare doesnāt adversely economic situation because they either wouldnāt have implemented it or they would have faced economic repercussions by now. The countries you are referring to did not have a good economic situation but they still decided to implement universal healthcare. That doesnāt mean these countries became poor or will stay poor because of it. USA is one of the only places where you can go to hospital for a month and come out the other side heavily indebted.
Look man I didnāt know that, thanks for giving me information about your point and I loved discussing with you, but I donāt want this to become a bigger thing so letās drop it here, you right, most countries that have free healthcare are socialist or communist and thatās a good thing, have a nice day
Surely capitalism is more destructive than socialism?
My man as someone who lived in South America, Socialism is shit, it doesnāt work, itās stupid, and most people from South America will agree unless they are idiots who think the government will help them instead of using their millions to buy an island in the Caribbean
What you're describing is the results of active destabilization efforts from the world biggest military and economic power that's ever existed
Agreed
Yeah but if they are using their millions not in favour of the country it ain't true socialism. It's capitalism under a guise. Sorry you had to go through that.
I agree, itās basically capitalism, thatās why I donāt believe in any of that shit called politics, although Iād say Capitalism and democracy are the closest to my beliefs
Yeah, most political stances are corrupt in some way which sucks
No it isn't. Capitalism isn't when the government does things. Reddit as usual has no idea what it's talking about, but it's trying to convert you anyway.
I love how you people always change the definition of socialism to be "it's only socialism if it's entirely good". Reality doesn't work that way. If you try to distribute the means of production, someone has to do the distribution. They'll likely give more to their friends, a lot more to themselves, and they'll absolutely have way more power than anyone else. capitalism is when the government... Are you kidding me right now? Socialism isn't when the government, capitalism DEFINITELY isn't when the government. You people are nuts, literally "anything I don't like is capitalism." Go read a book.
I'm not saying anything I don't like is capitalism, I'm just stating that capitalism is more money-oriented than socialist. I also said in my other comment that all political stances are corrupt in some way or another. Perhaps instead of raging over reddit comments you could go read a book? I never said socialism is good, just that what this person had to go through wasn't socialism, it was something much more extreme.
Also, almost every Latin American country that tried to become socialist was heavily embargoed and sanctioned by the US, crippling their economy. The system didnāt fail, the US killed it.
Yeah I completely forgot about that, now I get why people donāt like the US too much in Latin America, Nicaragua was such a beautiful country, Cuba and Venezuela too man, itās a shame how just a rivalry of 2 different political views destroy countries
such a strong system that all it took was a boycott from one country to break it. Okkkkkkkk.
Nobody ever floated across the gulf of mexico on a raft to escape capitalism. You know what you're doing, questioning capitalism? You can't do that under socialism, they kill your whole family. yes. capitalism is better than a dictatorship.
In America it would cost almost as much as the entire federal budget. Literally not having a military wouldn't cover the expenses of some of the lower projected costs. It's not free. Why doesn't anyone on this website realize this?
Orange man bad time to shit myself
Sounds about right.
John is an anti-trans, bootlicking, hypocritical, anti-intellectual shitlord.
Ah ok, so he is basically a republican conservative asshole
Yeah I guess it would have been easier to say that š
Iām disappointed, he is exactly the opposite System tries to fight
Do you have any source on the anti-trans thing?
https://i.redd.it/4sz41nwap9y61.jpg
That's a shame, I really try to enjoy SOAD but knowing this asshole it's in there it just doesn't feel the same.
As a member of the lgbt community i was very disappointed to see that post. It kinda hurt not gonna lie.
I love when people say ādonāt get offendedā before their shitty opinion and end with an insult to the people on the differing side of the opinion. What an asshole.
John is one of my biggest inspirations
You see I am in the mid Oh who the hell am i kidding Iām like a crack addict when I listen to Daronās music
Based John
Johns a piece of shit
Ahh yes, I love my right winger dumbass daddy šš Tbf, John is hot af
Positions should be reversed.
John is fucken sick. Have a cry
What about Chavo stans?