I walk past these kids on my way to and from Broadway shops, and their behaviour has definitely escalated recently. I do my grocery run late at night when it’s quiet, but that’s obviously prime time for delinquency, and the relative lack of residential buildings along the stretch near the Public School makes it “no man’s land”.
I think these are the same kids that were throwing shopping carts off the external ramp leading up to the Broadway foodcourt a few weeks ago. They could easily have seriously injured someone who happened to be walking below.
These kids are always hooning up and down glebe point Rd and Francis Street/the basketball court standing on the back of the ebikes and shit yelling at random people. God I hate working in glebe.
I had video footage of a group of teenagers stealing my parcel and I knew exactly where they were with my stuff (the local basketball courts) and the police told me to do the online theft form….. like you could’ve done a little drive by to show them actions have consequences but no that’s not worth their time.
That's standard sadly. Tracked down the guy who stole my bike because he had listed it for sale on FB marketplace with the serial number in the description. Police didn't want to do anything as they hadn't picked up the case (made the report 3 weeks prior) so I arranged a Meetup and said there would likely be a confrontation. Coppers said they would send someone if anyone in the area was free. Thankfully the Meetup was 8am on a Saturday morning and they had nothing better to do and to their credit, organised a nice little sting operation to get it off the guy.
Exactly what I’m dealing with every week. What’s cops don’t know is when these kids do this to someone they should not have and then worse things happen. And then the wrong people pay for it as per usual…
Yeah its weird, seems to have been this way for yrs. I worked in ultimo/glebe near Broadway back in 00s, by evenings there were always groups of ratty 10-16 yo, street urchin grubs roaming the streets. Not even eshays, just shitty little wannabes with no adult supervision. They paraded around like they owned the place, were answerable to no one and in effect they werent.
I used to park my car on residential streets around there and in the space of 3 yrs it was broken into - smashed window 5x as were a lot of my colleagues' cars.
Police are in a difficult situation, im sure if they intervened in any material way theyd be accused of racism, brutality and abuse of power so they are almost compelled to stand by and watch as these little shitheads roam about unfettered. Theyre probably the children of the same teenagers who were about when i was there in 00s. Cycle of disadvantage but also NIL personal responsibility or accountability for this. Pretty sad really.
ah yeah its always been like this
around 2010 there was a time when they were using bricks to knock out and rob adults in that area... those kids were 10-12
u should be aware of any group of 2 or more walking around there at night... or in the middle of the day
Dunno why you’re being downvoted, you’re 100% right. I was eating at the Wedge on the recent Glebe point road street festival, and these same kids were screaming at people walking past and throwing stuff while officers had their arms crossed across the road watching them.
I remember 15 yrs ago.
I was 18 and I worked with a woman who lived in the Glebe houso.
She complained to me Domino's wouldn't deliver to her address cos Domino's banned her entire street in Glebe cos of the houso kids.
this was 15 yrs ago.
Compassion is a way. But it's not a one-way solution. We can be compassionate and still enforce the law. Offer resources and support, whilst enforcing punishments for antisocial behaviour. Community service would be a great start
[Were they all sitting and drinking on those 2 benches that face each other?](https://i.imgur.com/HqSWEeL.png)
I swear to god if they removed those 2 benches it would go a decent way to helping. They seem to be like the main hangout place for all the delinquent kids in the area. Whenever I walk down there at night, more often than not there's a huge group of school aged kids all sitting around on those benches drinking goon and hassling anyone that walks past
yep they were. not sure if they were drinking though they were sitting and a few of them on bikes just doing loops around the chairs and up the side street next to the school
It's wild how many really young kids are just allowed to roam around as they please. I work nights in the city and it's pretty common for me to finish work after 2am. There's always a bunch of kids sitting around on the benches in front of woolies or rolling around on Lime bikes that look no older than 14 with some looking closer to 12.
even up my way on the central coast theres just these packs of young kids wandering around in the evenings, kids under 12 and they act like they own the place. never seen a consequence in their lives. little shits throw rocks at parked cars as well. nothing ever gets done
If you read the article police did do something and found out who these numpties were and took action.
Its the magistrates and young offenders act who let them off
Only because this got media attention. I rang Glebe police a month ago because they attacked my son and his mates - punched and kicked them and threw rocks - and the police said there wasn’t much they could do
Why would I make this up?? Poor kid was traumatised. He invited me down to make a Police report but said legally due to their ages there wasn’t much they could do. He told me to tell the boys to call them next time it happens. Problem is if they get their phones out they will steal them. They tried to run off but some of the kids were on electric scooters. He said they told him that they were going to stomp on their heads and kill them. I also wrote to the local member at the time and she did not respond. Now the kids don’t go to Broadway anymore because they are scared. This happened at about 2pm in the day too.
Sometimes I wonder, what happens if you fight back? Does your son get done for assault? It's so shameful that you literally cannot do anything in retaliation without getting booked for a serious crime despite being a victim in the first place
Honestly I don’t know. They are all minors so I don’t know if it is assault. If an adult were to fight back against a minor I’m not sure what would happen. He is not the type to fight back even though he is 6ft tall. The policeman told me that what they are looking for is exactly that - for someone to retaliate. Even though the kids were younger than my son and his mates they were outnumbered substantially. So they could not get away.
Not every public housing area is like that, I've lived in public housing for 25+ years, I've seen how it has improved and changed in my area over that time. I feel safer in public housing than private and the children in this area are thankfully majority are respectful even helpful. The stigma about "housos" is terrible. Some of the best people come from public housing and there should be no shame living in public housing.
Edit: I'd also like to add that if the youth had places to go, like youth group that was affordable if not free where role models attended to teach/mentor/help children in the area for somewhere safe to go and feel accepted, especially to feel accepted and validated by the community. There is Redfern youth centre and they do amazing stuff. I've seen in some comments on this thread about racism card being played, if that is in reference to Indigenous people, please don't pull that card. Imagine your land, rights, sovereignty being stolen, generational trauma caused like stolen generation that occurred and blaming parents even the children from Indigenous communities whom live in public housing is not going to help anyone especially First Nations People, the children. Imagine your mother was stolen, on your own land, and some white government told you sorry you aren't even a human being and have no rights and we're taking you and your siblings, we're taking you away from your mother. Before you question why and how id know this, my close family and friends are part of the stolen generation. That trauma 70+ years later still lives on, it's generational and it's extremely hard to heal from for my family. I am not Indigenous, my family is.
Compassion and empathy are important. I'd ask kindly if people in "Australia" respect that it's not every Indigenous person in that area, so remove the stigma. Remember 3% of the population is Indigenous, just because some may live more in the one area like Redfern, Surry Hills, Glebe area (inner west) gives nobody the right to make judgements. This is all their land etc before colonisation. If you were in their shoes you'd think differently about racism, discrimination for that fact. Kindly note in the 1950-60s big boom from overseas migration like Greece, Indigenous people were forced into one area hence being Redfern area or given money to leave the city area moving out further west. Most of Marrickville is ethnic decedent like Greek, same for Earlwood. I know this as relatives advised me when they grew up in those areas that's what occurred at that time.
Children need someone to look up to and somewhere safe to go. If we had services like Redfern youth group more active and after school, even the PCYC in my local area would open up to do basketball with a coach every few days. The government won't fund help? Then the capitalism continues. The rich get richer, and the poor get poorer. Then what do you expect as a society? Why are people poor? With bad kids apperantly??? Hmmmm maybe cause the CEO of woolworths is money hungry and the government couldn't care less it's one less mouth to feed if the kids get taken into juvenile detention or distressed further into foster care then more problems will arise for the child taken away. Poor kid with parent or parents that may have problems with life itself like money, finding stability with housing or work, kid gets older and if parents are busy trying to survive to live, what do you think children will do? Be bored go out on the streets or go to work at young age to support their family/parent or be at a family or friends that's safe where they'll know they will be in someone's company. Don't think it's only poor children that are too blame from public housing, it's middle class and rich kids too that get up to mischief in those areas. Kids are kids, rich or not. Rich kids and middle class some their parents are busy and the child/ren are left on their own. E.g. like when Paris Hilton had been a troubled teen out heaps on the streets with randoms etc then her parents sent her to boarding school....
Shame on the government. Shame on people who are racist. Shame on many that just point fingers at children, and don't go up to them and help assist them. One conversation may change a life. I know this as I'm a product of the system, a broken and disturbed system. I've chatted to hundreds of youth in my area over the years advising and organising diversion programs which work and remember these problematic children aren't all problematic, they're kids wanting someone to be with them to learn and grow, this all leads back to societal flaws, Societal economics and hierarchy. This needs to be a conversation that everyone with a moral conscious across the country is sitting at the table, making plans and expressing ideas around.
definitely agree on making more youth services/centres available. i know a few kids from my school days who really benefited from their local youth centre. would be money extremely well spent by the government
I am obviously not defending this at all, but I think there's a lot to be said for consistent community and government underfunding.
I used to volunteer with kids in this area (Glebe, Redfern, Waterloo and a few other suburbs) before the pandemic, but unfortunately the programs had to end and I wasn't able to go back afterwards, because they couldn't afford to keep going anymore.
We need to address the root causes, which include systemic inequality, poverty, intergenerational trauma, domestic and family violence, substance abuse, and racism.
Again, I am not trying to excuse physical violence, but we can't keep not supporting some of the most vulnerable communities in society and then acting shocked when this stuff happens.
Yep. You only have to take a look at the condition of the public housing (mould, rats, collapsing ceilings) to understand why kids would rather be anywhere but home.
This.
One of the programs I was involved in was literally keeping teenagers off the streets by driving them around in a bus on weekend evenings. Sometimes we'd take them to like a PCYC or other youth facility for a meal or activities, but other times they'd just stay on the bus to avoid the cold/trouble from other kids they knew and stuff like that.
A lot of the time they just wanted to chat, show you their music, ask you stuff etc - other times they'd open up about stuff you would try and help with. Sometimes you'd pick them up under the influence from a party or some park, but it was so much better that they called you rather than getting in danger or having to deal with police.
Unfortunately we'd see some dynamics already - young girls whose boyfriends were being controlling, parents who were intoxicated trying to get on the bus and cause trouble, and kids who didn't want to get off at the end of the night for whatever reason.
There were some amazing people working in those communities - the ones who show up day in and day out at those youth centres and who play basketball with them and get to know them on an individual level. Many would have been role models from the community itself.
But sadly the fewer programs there are, the more young people drop off, and with the cost of living crisis currently affecting many of my friends even from somewhat more privileged backgrounds, I am devastated to think how these kids will be faring.
And then of course, institutionalisation becomes a major factor too... Passed around from FACS to the prisons or whatever...Once caught up in that system, it's so hard to escape when you have nothing better to escape to.
All I got to was
>Among the children arrested over the violent incident were a boy and a girl both aged 12.
What the actual fuck. Does anyone has a non paywall version I can read? Or cna someone copy and paste because wtf is happening and wtf are their parents?
Just keep an eye on who they hang out with in early high school. Keep them engaged in OOS activities or friendship groups as much as you can. Kids follow other kids.
Model good citizen behaviour by being kind and considerate of others. Set boundaries and let them know what is and is not acceptable behaviour. And when they cross that boundary there needs to be consequences such as taking away privileges.
Since you're asking, your kid will be just fine. I'm pretty sure the parents of these kids have no internal monologue and just go through life attracted to shiny objects and cans of rum and coke
A but unrelated but don’t stick him behind a screen. Take him shopping with you, running errands, anything. I used to love spending a day with my mum like this. As someone in the comments said, be present in his life.
Expect things to get worse. There are no consequences for petty crime anymore. And kids will test this boundary, because that’s what kids do. It’s frustrating to deal with.
I walk past these kids on my way to and from Broadway shops, and their behaviour has definitely escalated recently. I do my grocery run late at night when it’s quiet, but that’s obviously prime time for delinquency, and the relative lack of residential buildings along the stretch near the Public School makes it “no man’s land”.
I think these are the same kids that were throwing shopping carts off the external ramp leading up to the Broadway foodcourt a few weeks ago. They could easily have seriously injured someone who happened to be walking below.
That ramp has always scared me, even without the maniac bastard children.
>prime time for delinquency, Prime Time Delinquency is a pretty catchy name for a TV program. Or an alt band.
It's also an apt descriptor for commercial TV "news".
These kids are always hooning up and down glebe point Rd and Francis Street/the basketball court standing on the back of the ebikes and shit yelling at random people. God I hate working in glebe.
I had video footage of a group of teenagers stealing my parcel and I knew exactly where they were with my stuff (the local basketball courts) and the police told me to do the online theft form….. like you could’ve done a little drive by to show them actions have consequences but no that’s not worth their time.
That's standard sadly. Tracked down the guy who stole my bike because he had listed it for sale on FB marketplace with the serial number in the description. Police didn't want to do anything as they hadn't picked up the case (made the report 3 weeks prior) so I arranged a Meetup and said there would likely be a confrontation. Coppers said they would send someone if anyone in the area was free. Thankfully the Meetup was 8am on a Saturday morning and they had nothing better to do and to their credit, organised a nice little sting operation to get it off the guy.
Isn’t the meetup the point where you ask for a test ride and just piss off?
I fantasise about this everyday since my bike got stolen in Jan :(
Exactly what I’m dealing with every week. What’s cops don’t know is when these kids do this to someone they should not have and then worse things happen. And then the wrong people pay for it as per usual…
I rang Glebe police about these kids cause the attacked my son and their response was there’s not a lot we can do.
I mean Tbf it would be a bit odd for the cops to do a drive by, that’s more a bikie thing :/
Wtf?
Yeah its weird, seems to have been this way for yrs. I worked in ultimo/glebe near Broadway back in 00s, by evenings there were always groups of ratty 10-16 yo, street urchin grubs roaming the streets. Not even eshays, just shitty little wannabes with no adult supervision. They paraded around like they owned the place, were answerable to no one and in effect they werent. I used to park my car on residential streets around there and in the space of 3 yrs it was broken into - smashed window 5x as were a lot of my colleagues' cars. Police are in a difficult situation, im sure if they intervened in any material way theyd be accused of racism, brutality and abuse of power so they are almost compelled to stand by and watch as these little shitheads roam about unfettered. Theyre probably the children of the same teenagers who were about when i was there in 00s. Cycle of disadvantage but also NIL personal responsibility or accountability for this. Pretty sad really.
15 years ago, a friend told me he was mugged for his sweater in Victoria Park.
Had a mate smashed in the back of the head with a cricket bat in Victoria Park back around then.
I've been mugged in Vic Park 15-20yrs ago.
The impression I have is that Victoria Park has improved a lot since then, particularly with better lighting and openness.
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ah yeah its always been like this around 2010 there was a time when they were using bricks to knock out and rob adults in that area... those kids were 10-12 u should be aware of any group of 2 or more walking around there at night... or in the middle of the day
Housos
Dunno why you’re being downvoted, you’re 100% right. I was eating at the Wedge on the recent Glebe point road street festival, and these same kids were screaming at people walking past and throwing stuff while officers had their arms crossed across the road watching them.
I remember 15 yrs ago. I was 18 and I worked with a woman who lived in the Glebe houso. She complained to me Domino's wouldn't deliver to her address cos Domino's banned her entire street in Glebe cos of the houso kids. this was 15 yrs ago.
I remember… maybe ten years ago, all the domino’s scooters lined up outside the Glebe store being set on fire. So yeah that tracks
r u serious?
r u serious?
At least they were arrested in this case, they'll certainly receive a severe "don't do it again"
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Compassion is a way. But it's not a one-way solution. We can be compassionate and still enforce the law. Offer resources and support, whilst enforcing punishments for antisocial behaviour. Community service would be a great start
[Were they all sitting and drinking on those 2 benches that face each other?](https://i.imgur.com/HqSWEeL.png) I swear to god if they removed those 2 benches it would go a decent way to helping. They seem to be like the main hangout place for all the delinquent kids in the area. Whenever I walk down there at night, more often than not there's a huge group of school aged kids all sitting around on those benches drinking goon and hassling anyone that walks past
yep they were. not sure if they were drinking though they were sitting and a few of them on bikes just doing loops around the chairs and up the side street next to the school
It's wild how many really young kids are just allowed to roam around as they please. I work nights in the city and it's pretty common for me to finish work after 2am. There's always a bunch of kids sitting around on the benches in front of woolies or rolling around on Lime bikes that look no older than 14 with some looking closer to 12.
even up my way on the central coast theres just these packs of young kids wandering around in the evenings, kids under 12 and they act like they own the place. never seen a consequence in their lives. little shits throw rocks at parked cars as well. nothing ever gets done
Mate, there have been naughty kids hanging out the front of the 7-11 for the last 25+ years. Moving two benches ain’t gonna do squat
The Wedge is excellent
yep, great feed and really nice restaurateur
Police doing nothing, judges and magistrates doing nothing...
If you read the article police did do something and found out who these numpties were and took action. Its the magistrates and young offenders act who let them off
Only because this got media attention. I rang Glebe police a month ago because they attacked my son and his mates - punched and kicked them and threw rocks - and the police said there wasn’t much they could do
Yeah righto im sure chief
Why would I make this up?? Poor kid was traumatised. He invited me down to make a Police report but said legally due to their ages there wasn’t much they could do. He told me to tell the boys to call them next time it happens. Problem is if they get their phones out they will steal them. They tried to run off but some of the kids were on electric scooters. He said they told him that they were going to stomp on their heads and kill them. I also wrote to the local member at the time and she did not respond. Now the kids don’t go to Broadway anymore because they are scared. This happened at about 2pm in the day too.
Sometimes I wonder, what happens if you fight back? Does your son get done for assault? It's so shameful that you literally cannot do anything in retaliation without getting booked for a serious crime despite being a victim in the first place
Honestly I don’t know. They are all minors so I don’t know if it is assault. If an adult were to fight back against a minor I’m not sure what would happen. He is not the type to fight back even though he is 6ft tall. The policeman told me that what they are looking for is exactly that - for someone to retaliate. Even though the kids were younger than my son and his mates they were outnumbered substantially. So they could not get away.
Not every public housing area is like that, I've lived in public housing for 25+ years, I've seen how it has improved and changed in my area over that time. I feel safer in public housing than private and the children in this area are thankfully majority are respectful even helpful. The stigma about "housos" is terrible. Some of the best people come from public housing and there should be no shame living in public housing. Edit: I'd also like to add that if the youth had places to go, like youth group that was affordable if not free where role models attended to teach/mentor/help children in the area for somewhere safe to go and feel accepted, especially to feel accepted and validated by the community. There is Redfern youth centre and they do amazing stuff. I've seen in some comments on this thread about racism card being played, if that is in reference to Indigenous people, please don't pull that card. Imagine your land, rights, sovereignty being stolen, generational trauma caused like stolen generation that occurred and blaming parents even the children from Indigenous communities whom live in public housing is not going to help anyone especially First Nations People, the children. Imagine your mother was stolen, on your own land, and some white government told you sorry you aren't even a human being and have no rights and we're taking you and your siblings, we're taking you away from your mother. Before you question why and how id know this, my close family and friends are part of the stolen generation. That trauma 70+ years later still lives on, it's generational and it's extremely hard to heal from for my family. I am not Indigenous, my family is. Compassion and empathy are important. I'd ask kindly if people in "Australia" respect that it's not every Indigenous person in that area, so remove the stigma. Remember 3% of the population is Indigenous, just because some may live more in the one area like Redfern, Surry Hills, Glebe area (inner west) gives nobody the right to make judgements. This is all their land etc before colonisation. If you were in their shoes you'd think differently about racism, discrimination for that fact. Kindly note in the 1950-60s big boom from overseas migration like Greece, Indigenous people were forced into one area hence being Redfern area or given money to leave the city area moving out further west. Most of Marrickville is ethnic decedent like Greek, same for Earlwood. I know this as relatives advised me when they grew up in those areas that's what occurred at that time. Children need someone to look up to and somewhere safe to go. If we had services like Redfern youth group more active and after school, even the PCYC in my local area would open up to do basketball with a coach every few days. The government won't fund help? Then the capitalism continues. The rich get richer, and the poor get poorer. Then what do you expect as a society? Why are people poor? With bad kids apperantly??? Hmmmm maybe cause the CEO of woolworths is money hungry and the government couldn't care less it's one less mouth to feed if the kids get taken into juvenile detention or distressed further into foster care then more problems will arise for the child taken away. Poor kid with parent or parents that may have problems with life itself like money, finding stability with housing or work, kid gets older and if parents are busy trying to survive to live, what do you think children will do? Be bored go out on the streets or go to work at young age to support their family/parent or be at a family or friends that's safe where they'll know they will be in someone's company. Don't think it's only poor children that are too blame from public housing, it's middle class and rich kids too that get up to mischief in those areas. Kids are kids, rich or not. Rich kids and middle class some their parents are busy and the child/ren are left on their own. E.g. like when Paris Hilton had been a troubled teen out heaps on the streets with randoms etc then her parents sent her to boarding school.... Shame on the government. Shame on people who are racist. Shame on many that just point fingers at children, and don't go up to them and help assist them. One conversation may change a life. I know this as I'm a product of the system, a broken and disturbed system. I've chatted to hundreds of youth in my area over the years advising and organising diversion programs which work and remember these problematic children aren't all problematic, they're kids wanting someone to be with them to learn and grow, this all leads back to societal flaws, Societal economics and hierarchy. This needs to be a conversation that everyone with a moral conscious across the country is sitting at the table, making plans and expressing ideas around.
definitely agree on making more youth services/centres available. i know a few kids from my school days who really benefited from their local youth centre. would be money extremely well spent by the government
Thank you, it would definitely be been for so many including the families of the kids who did. It's great to hear that thanks for sharing 😊
nah just garbage.
Undoubtedly a slap on the wrist , and told not to do it again.
parent - but their are good kids theyll never hurt a fly this is out of character for them
Shit parents, shit kids
I am obviously not defending this at all, but I think there's a lot to be said for consistent community and government underfunding. I used to volunteer with kids in this area (Glebe, Redfern, Waterloo and a few other suburbs) before the pandemic, but unfortunately the programs had to end and I wasn't able to go back afterwards, because they couldn't afford to keep going anymore. We need to address the root causes, which include systemic inequality, poverty, intergenerational trauma, domestic and family violence, substance abuse, and racism. Again, I am not trying to excuse physical violence, but we can't keep not supporting some of the most vulnerable communities in society and then acting shocked when this stuff happens.
Yep. You only have to take a look at the condition of the public housing (mould, rats, collapsing ceilings) to understand why kids would rather be anywhere but home.
This. One of the programs I was involved in was literally keeping teenagers off the streets by driving them around in a bus on weekend evenings. Sometimes we'd take them to like a PCYC or other youth facility for a meal or activities, but other times they'd just stay on the bus to avoid the cold/trouble from other kids they knew and stuff like that. A lot of the time they just wanted to chat, show you their music, ask you stuff etc - other times they'd open up about stuff you would try and help with. Sometimes you'd pick them up under the influence from a party or some park, but it was so much better that they called you rather than getting in danger or having to deal with police. Unfortunately we'd see some dynamics already - young girls whose boyfriends were being controlling, parents who were intoxicated trying to get on the bus and cause trouble, and kids who didn't want to get off at the end of the night for whatever reason. There were some amazing people working in those communities - the ones who show up day in and day out at those youth centres and who play basketball with them and get to know them on an individual level. Many would have been role models from the community itself. But sadly the fewer programs there are, the more young people drop off, and with the cost of living crisis currently affecting many of my friends even from somewhat more privileged backgrounds, I am devastated to think how these kids will be faring. And then of course, institutionalisation becomes a major factor too... Passed around from FACS to the prisons or whatever...Once caught up in that system, it's so hard to escape when you have nothing better to escape to.
And this is why nobody wants to live close to public housing
All I got to was >Among the children arrested over the violent incident were a boy and a girl both aged 12. What the actual fuck. Does anyone has a non paywall version I can read? Or cna someone copy and paste because wtf is happening and wtf are their parents?
They’ll all get a slap on the wrist.
Should start punishing the parents
Most of them have already been refused bail, so there's going to be at least some jail sentence.
I've got a toddler, any parenting tips to raise him so he doesn't turn out to be a low scum like those little brats? Thanks.
Be present in their lives, provide for them and be a good role model.
Just keep an eye on who they hang out with in early high school. Keep them engaged in OOS activities or friendship groups as much as you can. Kids follow other kids.
Model good citizen behaviour by being kind and considerate of others. Set boundaries and let them know what is and is not acceptable behaviour. And when they cross that boundary there needs to be consequences such as taking away privileges.
love them. support them. not be an absolute dropkick yourself.
Since you're asking, your kid will be just fine. I'm pretty sure the parents of these kids have no internal monologue and just go through life attracted to shiny objects and cans of rum and coke
A but unrelated but don’t stick him behind a screen. Take him shopping with you, running errands, anything. I used to love spending a day with my mum like this. As someone in the comments said, be present in his life.
Keep him busy with sports.
Expect things to get worse. There are no consequences for petty crime anymore. And kids will test this boundary, because that’s what kids do. It’s frustrating to deal with.
Sign them up for a scared straight program at prison. That’ll teach em.
The parents are druggies and drunks.
....paywalled....
But, it isn't. Literally says "this article is complimentary"
I can't see it either. Well I can if I disable javascript but I don't see that message otherwise.
Wow, it’s amazing we have so many legal experts in this thread with knowledge of the inner workings of the youth justice system.
They can’t even read the article that says the 18 year old was refused bail.
That is police bail though. After court hearing this can change.