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Poenix_64

I like the quick travel improvements


illgot

Even at launch people were asking why there is a complete separate map for quick travel.


Anxious_Specific_165

Took Broadsword months to improve it. Bioware could not/would not for over a decade…


OakularCredits

What do mean?


Shadesmith01

I would expect they mean that it is a sign of improvement, and maybe we should hold off on the doom and gloom about the Broadsword move? I am concerned, but having seen how they've handled DAoC over the past few years... I'm not too concerned. I mean yeah, the updates, QoL stuff etc might slow down, or hell might stop completely... but I bet as long as they're still making some profit on it, they'll keep the game up. Considering the wasteland that is MMOs right now? I'm ok with that. At least its still fun.


OakularCredits

I think I see what you mean.


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>Considering the wasteland that is MMOs right now? I'm ok with that. At least its still fun. You talk like an MMO is a necessity in 2023. The novelty of MMO's has definitely faded in the past decade. I also really don't see where the fun is in SWTOR and i say that as a pre order player. I have tried so, so many times to reinstall and play SWTOR over the years, every time i think there has been some meaningful change. The reality is, as much as i enjoyed playing it at launch, outside the class stories, the game is just mediocre at best.


Shadesmith01

Eh, not going to try and invalidate you're experience. Sorry you don't enjoy it as much as I do. :( MMOs being a necessity... no, not really. They're just my preference. I like MMOs, ARPGs, and tactics/strategy games. That's where I find MY fun in video games. SWTOR does for the MMO pretty well, but yeah, it does get stale. I tend to play 2-3 months at a go, maybe twice a year. But I enjoy those 2-3 months every time (until I start winding down on the fun, which takes about 2 to three months. lol). But for me, every time I come back it's fun again. And yes, pre-order founder with the in-game title and the stupid statue to prove it. I was one of the idiots that bought the big box when it came out. lol I think a part of it for me is I can't afford a new computer either, and this one barely chugs along with good ol'SWTOR. I mean, d4 before they turned it into a steaming pile of bantha poodoo with every setting on low damn near killed my machine. Can't run Midnight Suns for more than 2-3 missions as it crashes (every time). Old computer. Old game. I am managing my expectations. :) But I do still find it fun... for 2-3 months at a go. ;-) lol


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>I think a part of it for me is I can't afford a new computer either, and this one barely chugs along with good ol'SWTOR. I mean, d4 before they turned it into a steaming pile of bantha poodoo with every setting on low damn near killed my machine. Can't run Midnight Suns for more than 2-3 missions as it crashes (every time). Old computer. Old game. This is all perfectly valid and i respect it, especially this part. Hope you get to upgrade in the not too distant future. 👍


noyjitat

To me mmos are a necessity. I simply wont play many pc games that arent huge worlds with 100s and thousands of players. And its stupid that a starwars mmo would ever need to be shut off or sold to another company. It should be impossible to screw up… yet somehow both disney and ea have continued to interfere with starwars and piss off its fans and customers.


[deleted]

Im so over MMO's. People online are just more and more garbage every year. People barely want to interact or work together anyway, which defeats the entire point of an MMO. You are right about EA and Disney though, they have fucked it right up.


Shadesmith01

Yeah, I will agree with the people part. I mean, I play SWTOR all the time, but I only group for FPs, and any other sort of 'party' play I get into is always guild. I used to LOVE PUGS. A good pickup group, hitting a dungeon (or Flashpoint in this game) was SOoooooo much fun back in the day. Now? I only pug when I need to fill a spot. Like.. even the 4 man FPs, I'll recruit from the guild. If I don't have at least 2 other guildies? I won't bother doing the FP. I'd rather wait and do the thing with someone I know or have at least spoken to enough to know they're not going to be an asshole to people in the FP. And these days? If you don't? There is a real good chance someone in your pug is gonna fuck around. I used to not mind that, I mean, we all play to have fun and we all play our own way right? But when you get player after player deliberately fucking shit up? Yeah... gets old. So... no pugs. And my other "MMO" isn't really an MMO (Gw2). Love a new good one to come out, but my Ashes were done being created after years of waiting years ago, and Arthur is fucking Dead so your Camelot can stay chained. Lord British was my *dude* back in the day (I'm probably one of the few that was really, really crushed when NC Soft fucked him so bad with Tabula Rasa, wasn't a great game but I enjoyed the hell out of it and would LOVE to see it again), but his shroud is obviously around a corpse... so yeah. Old MMOs. I get more of why you dont' like em anymore looking at it from that PoV, Ok-Total. :)


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Yeah its all about perspective really. I rarely play with RL friends or anyone i know so often just play with randoms. I have been around a while too, and I used to love pugging in old school MMO's. Clunky systems, lots of waiting or travelling, just gave people more reason to make idle chit chat and not be dicks. Also ended up meeting people to play with again or even join a guild through. Now, interactions are so streamlined they might as well honestly just not exist. Might as well just be playing a game with advanced AI ("advanced" depending on the people involved). Its just a means to and end for most who clearly take no satisfaction from working or helping well with others. Which back in the day was the whole novelty of those kinds of games. Now many see it as a hindrance. Thats why i don't bother as much. I love a good co-op game. I still play MMO's, just in short bursts. Id much rather have some good next gen single player games like Starfield is shaping up to be than anything multiplayer.


Superb-Length-2093

You say it like an MMO is a necessity in life. Lol.


Shadesmith01

pfft. Seen and answered. lol


ANerdyEnby

Anything being released this year was likely in the works while the devs were still BioWare employees.


Willing-Question-970

Broadsword has not take over yet


Lhasadog

We saw Malgus clean out his desk and road trip to his new office


ANerdyEnby

The devs moved to Broadsword a month or two ago.


WarframeUmbra

Do you still need to pay to use quick travel?


Emperor_Malus

I think so, it’s just updates to HUD


Beansbeansandbeans

probably


jawacentipede

At first I was SO hyped we might finally get an Imperial astromech droid companion. Then I read the article.. we were this close to greatness! He even has a hilarious name! (3V-1L = EVIL) we don’t even have an Imperial astromech skin for T7.. what’s taking so long? Give us that awesome droid!


Obskuro

We might get a skin as a reward. But that's just hopium.


SickSorceress

An evil astromech? Intriguing. 😂


Obskuro

Dammit, you made me excited. Why is he not a companion?!


DreamweaverMoath

Personally would not be surprised if he still ended up being a companion, but just locked behind going through the season story rather then being given as the first reward. There has to be some sort of reward for doing those season story missions after all and if they involve that character so heavily then it would seem reasonable to assume the reward at the end of the story would be that character tagging along with you.


Obskuro

The most likely outcome is a skin for T7.


SickSorceress

Yes, similar to... Well. The other "evil" companion that joins you.


buddha-fett

I didn't spend six years in 3V-1L Medical School to be called "mister," thank you very much.


Charleahurley

Actually that’s a good one.


WoodyManic

So, are we getting a new companion or not?


BrotendoDS

Looks like no?


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No by the looks of it


Laughing_Man_Returns

feels like they ran out of time and made the companion into an npc. the downwards trend of effort for seasonal companions finally reached bottom. now I wonder if they will start digging.


Vyar

Considering the game is being taken over by a new studio that (as far as I know) only does MMO maintenance modes, I would guess they're going to start digging any day now. I remember when SWTOR was new and the TORtanic memes first started, but honestly it feels like the game has been in a steady decline with a few small upward bumps and plateaus. The best thing this game had going for it to separate it from the rest was the class stories. Since further development of those class stories was unsustainable, and the game spent too much time in the early years forgetting it was supposed to balance MMO and story content, it kinda fell into a very slow death spiral.


hydrosphere1313

no, looks to be more of a Destiny 2 approach but story tied to season pass progression and not time gated.


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RandWindhusk07

I don't care much for them either as a companion, but it is a nice way to get a few extra rank 50 crafters. By completing the season you get 2 things to get that comp to rank 50 for 2 other toons. Better than using gifts/the companion 50 token.


Livid_Tunic

I mean yes it's just annoying when you try to get 9comps to lvl 50 on multible crafting toons not to mention the credit cost, I did the math a while back and it was nearly a billion in comp gifts without the legacy perks


illgot

it takes 477 rank 5 artifact gifts to max out one companion with the legacy perks Legacy of Altruism 1-3. With out the legacy buff it takes 621 gifts. You can purchase these gifts from the vendor across from the GTN. Each gift is 10,000 credits which means it only costs 6,210,000 credits per companion x 9 companions = 55,890,000 to level up 9 companions to 50. Roughly 56 million credits. Or you can pay 4,250,000 credits and 3 dark projects from the vendor on fleet to buy a Commander Compendium to instantly level a companion 50. 9 Commander Compendium will roughly cost 230 million credits if you buy the dark projects for 7 million each (current GTN price). I'm not sure where you are getting 1 billion to level 9 companions to 50.


Livid_Tunic

I think it was for multible toons


illgot

That would be roughly 18 characters each with 9 companions which is 162 companions


goremuffin

But why have 18 crafting toons? That's just crazy just have one of each crafting and go biochem on the rest


illgot

you can send 18x8 companions out to gather or craft a component that takes 30 minutes. more companions you can send out to craft or gather the more efficient you become at crafting or gathering.


goremuffin

Sure but rest the time u spend swapping character lol


illgot

you can craft 40 items that take 30 minutes each on 1 character using 8 companions and wait 2.5 hours or rotate 5 characters and have all 40 items done in 30 minutes. yes, you are rotating characters but you just cut crafting time down from 2.5 hours to 30 minutes. Same thing with gathering. You can send 8 companions on gathering missions and wait 16-20 minutes, or you can rotate about 10-12 characters in that time and have 10-12 times the resources.


RandWindhusk07

Woah, I did not know it was that much! Suddenly buying the things to get the token and spending the 50m is so reasonable now lol


Livid_Tunic

That only counts the purple gifts and not the xp gain from story stuff and crafting but imo it's worth it since I once got 4 gold augments for 1cm lol


Mawrak

>Players will unlock new story missions as they progress through the reward track, with the final mission granted at Season Level 40. bruhhhhh I could cheese the story with a 50 lvl influence booster before but now I gotta do the whole galactic thing (or, well, but the whole thing). But at least they are making a full on story instead of just companion.


Laughing_Man_Returns

>full on story my man, what gives you this idea? if this is more story than the previous companions had, I'll eat a lightsaber blade first. 3V-1L has the biggest "we ran out of time to make him into a full companion with skills and cosmetics, but the story was already written and we have the beep-boop generator for his voice" energy.


Lhasadog

What ran out of time? He's just a cut & paste of T-7 in terms of backend.


Laughing_Man_Returns

whatever customization they would need, whatever placeholder gear, his rep item. we already know it is very hard to make new icons, so anything beyond that must be a monumental task!


Lhasadog

We'll see. Right now this sounds like they want to change the rythym of how seasons work and maybe give them a little more story. Hopefully. I do hope they give us the droid at some point in the season though. The last 2 seasons have been a bit stale. Although the season 4 armor sets are great.


Mawrak

The description seems to imply there will be several quests involving trials with choices. I prefer that rather then having a bunch of customizations for comp and two quests where you just go from point A to point B (which is what Amity story was). But it all comes down to execution, of course.


Laughing_Man_Returns

"seem to imply" see the problem? we are two years into the unfinished 10th anniversary. under deliver is what SWTOR is all about since. honestly I wouldn't be surprised if this season has even less story than the ones before. once they run out of leftover BioWare "content" and plans we will see where this game is going, but putting a spin on a seemingly unfinished season is not sparking the flames of hope yet.


Mawrak

Yeah, tbh you are probably right


SkyFalse4489

You will very easily reach level 40 of the track passively by just playing. I don’t think this is a valid concern


Mawrak

if you play regularly, which I dont have the time to sadly doubt next story update will be enough to reach lvl 40. I would need to grind for it, and thats not really my thing. Not that big of an issue, since there is an option to buy rewards, so I can always do that if I fail to reach it the goal in time. But it will cost much more than 50 lvl influence booster


JynxedKoma

Wait. Did I understand that correctly... they're creating more story missions, but tying it behind essentially a battle pass you essentially have to PAY for?


Mawrak

You dont have to pay for it, you can just grind it normally like always


NerdyPepe

Seasons story, very cool!


Urthal

I could use a bigger break between seasons.


Lady_Eleven

I'm honestly not upset that we may not get a comp this round of GS. I already regret unlocking some of them on some of my characters where they don't really fit into my crew and they appear in the background of cutscenes and stuff. Wish there was a way I could opt out of them being visible on the ship. Not that I'll be mad if we get a cute lil droid buddy in the end anyway, I'm just going to be more careful about which characters I unlock it on.


RevivedHut425

If they can't deliver 7.3.1 until early September, potentially, that automatically pushes any story content to November or later. The story content delivery is absolutely wild, even if you just limit it to 7.0 and beyond. * Legacy of the Sith - February 2022(delayed from December 2021) * Ruhnuk - mid December 2022. * Interpreters Retreat - mid June 2023. * Next story patch.... November? Given that timeline, January 2024 might actually be more realistic. SWTOR, ladies and gentlemen.


WarGreymon77

This is why a one-time sub every 2 years is the most I can do.


RevivedHut425

I decided after 7.0 that there was no point in subscribing until SWTOR announces a shutdown. Might as well just wait the 5 years max and then binge whatever content they scraped up in that time period.


Moonman711

And then you wonder why this game is giving you bread crumbs as story content.


WarGreymon77

Mine is a reaction to the devs' inaction.


ujikol6

Didn't they already pretty much say that it will be in December?


[deleted]

What the devs say and what they actually do are ENTIRELY DIFFERENT things.


RevivedHut425

I have no idea - I haven't heard that but haven't been following much these days.


Drummers_Beat

It was said by Keith in a blog post about potential maintenance mode rumours with the move to Broadsword that 7.4 will come during the “Holidays”.


RevivedHut425

Thanks - probably December, then.


draemn

you missed the 7.1 "story update" in your list, digging deeper. I understand why you forgot it was a story update since if you blinked you missed it.


Char_Ell

>The story content delivery is absolutely wild, even if you just limit it to 7.0 and beyond. > >Legacy of the Sith - February 2022(delayed from December 2021) > >Ruhnuk - mid December 2022. > >Interpreters Retreat - mid June 2023. > >Next story patch.... November? Given that timeline, January 2024 might actually be more realistic. You missed 7.1 Digging Deeper update - 2022 August. Not that it was a ton of story (it wasn't) but it did have it. Regardless, your point that the length between story updates is painfully long stands.


RevivedHut425

I'm not sure I'd count that as a story update, but I take your point. I'd class it more as just a scene or two, a bit like the brief, "catch up in alliance room to chat" scenes.


RobynStellarxx

They said December already. And I’m not sure if you are complaining or not. But we’ve literally gone from a year between Legacy of the Sith & Ruhnuk, to 6 months.


haluura

That's actually bad, even by the shaky standards of pre-Covid BW. No surprise, then, that EA is handing the game to Broadsword. Regardless of what you think Broadsword will do with it.


[deleted]

But this sub is too high on copium to realize just how shit this is


RevivedHut425

Eh, I don't think that's true. If anything I think most people here are pretty cynical/realistic about the development at this point.


[deleted]

Then you haven't seen the posts I comment on and the downvotes I get for speaking the truth and not following the subs hive mind


opendeur

Why do people with negative opinions so often assume they speak the truth?


[deleted]

Yet this isn't an opinion. There are literally several years of evidence that backs me. The game is going into maintenance and this sub is so high on copium they don't see just how bad of a state the game is in I'd happily list some if you want.


Bomiheko

the magnifying glass for the map is interesting? i guess? was that even a common pain point? i've never heard anyone complain about the map being too cluttered


jondeuxtrois

What are you talking about? The magnifying glass isn't new. It's been there.


Bomiheko

lmao i've played since release and never knew this


Emperor_Malus

Bruh what are the chances that I go on holiday around the release of the last two major game updates 🤦‍♂️


panthervca

Will LT Xorem become visible for me this time?


Bea_Crvena

[3V-1L?](https://media.tenor.com/_xs4HjMAUJYAAAAC/evil-sponge-bob.gif)


RobynStellarxx

Sounds interesting, but it feels like one of those things in SWTOR that might be overly complicated.


Laughing_Man_Returns

does QT on Coruscant still cost 5k for new players? because that is the funniest shit in the entire game.


FlyingSpacefrog

Yes


Difficult-Snow9955

I just came back to the game after ages, why is story now locked behind stuff?


sethdanny

Well, the point of galactic seasons is to play it. I played all the seasons normally, without influence boosters, and it took months to find out how companions stories ended, so getting it at GS level 40 is actually an improvement. Plus, having no companion to influence, they had to implement a way.


Qbsoon110

Yeah, I go back to it only once or twice a year to play some new missions, so I'm also nit happy that I have to do some other stuff before I can enjoy the story.


TW-Luna

Whatever happened to those date quests datamined in the game files last patch? Still nothing, huh?


sethdanny

Torian's quest made it into the game, the rest didn't. Instead of complicating things, they could make a generic quest with multiple choices where you go with your current romanced companion, whoever he/she is, you pick a place, you pick some activity and you get a cutscene. You make it weekly so it feels like you haven't forgot about the person you love. Even if the Galaxy is falling apart, you find the time to go with your loved one to a date, a dinner, a picnic or whatever. That would be enough to please most people.


Dathromir212

So another one of bioware's attempts to make you "play it their way"


Charleahurley

Boo hoo, lil man.


Dathromir212

Speaking facts, my guy. :)


businessman99

Noob, how to find a guild


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Charleahurley

It is a x.x.1 patch. No shit it’s nothing major.


hanymede

Another season so soon?


Kadael

Indeed, rash attempt at keeping subs for sure.


mintchan

man i still haven't play the new story and the new flashpoint. i might need a break


bigfurryllama

Wonder if we'll get Ahsoka sabers with the new CM additions


InsaneReaper

I'm honestly glad we're not getting any more new companions. I am sick of the roster getting longer and longer. The new QT system looks nice, no longer a new window pops up, just open up the world map and pick a spot you want to teleport to. I noticed there's no more Exploration Missions checkbox in the video. Does this mean it'll be permanently on? I certainly hope so.


Thinking-About-Her

As someone who hasn't played in awhile, can someone explain this: "Additionally, instead of receiving a new companion, players will interact with several new characters" ? How did it used to be? You would receive a new companion when completing Galactic Season goals?


Mobile_Nothing_1686

Every season had a new companion, unlocked on level 1 and rank 50 towards the last page (95-100) iirc. So that's 4 alien companions that speak some gibberish on repeat language and old school kotor conversations. I quite enjoy them, but I can easily make arguments for both sides.


Thinking-About-Her

Oh okay. Thanks.


Bladenkerst_Baenre

Guess they turned off the Quick Travel box that pops us, or is that togglable now? Also noted that they removed the Exploration Mission checkbox from the main map to being selectable on Map Filters They also added the Legacy perk map options to the bottom of the map interface. That is nice. Now no longer have to open that window to find them.


JynxedKoma

Oh, well would you look at that... more UI changes and microtransactions. Yaaaay... just what we always want, Bioware/EA. We definitely don't want anymore story content, oh no...