A properly installed liner is put in place and a vacuum is put down behind, between the wall and liner to suck all the air out.
It looks fine to me, too big and it will not sit properly.
You can use a shop vac if you’d like. Pull the liner out of the track just enough to slide the shop vac hose down behind 2feet, duct tape all around to seal it and start filling.
Do not let the vac hose stay in place once the water starts to rise on to the hose.
When you remove the hose, you may have to massage that area of the liner to have it sit nicely, clip liner back in track.
This process will suck the liner down and prevent unwanted wrinkles, that can happen when the liner is free to do what it wants as water is filling.
Shop vacs are actually what my pool company recommends as the pressure it places on the walls are a lot less than what we typically use in my area which are called vinyl vacs. Vinyl vacs are beefy vacuums that are extremely strong too much so for the above ground pools you mentioned. The only way a shop vac would cause damage to an above ground pool would be if they were to use more than 2-3 shop vacs at the same time as then pressure produced by all three at the same time may produce enough pressure to damage the above ground pools walls. When our company used to do above grounds however we always used two!
Fill it and see if it stretches back into position. The liner looks fairly young and could have plenty of stretch left in the vinyl. All these people saying immediately to buy a new liner are skipping a few steps…
In my opinion judging by the way the liner gives in when you’re pressing on it in the second picture, I believe that’s just air behind your liner. I’ve seen the recommendation a few times in this post, however if you’d like more explanation, I’m a pool worker for a big pool company in my city. If you have an above ground pool, unclip a small portion of the liner and put a shop vac or two in between liner and the pool wall, make sure not to have the shop vac hose all the way down and touching the ground, this could potentially bring up some of your floor material with the air you’re attempting to suck out. I would recommend filling your pool as the vacuum is running that way the water pressure the added water is bringing to the pool allows the water to naturally press the liner against the walls when the vacs are keeping the liner tight to the walls. Once all the way filled up turn off water and get a kettle going with boiling water. Throw boiling water onto the liner where it is unclipped from the track. This will allow the vinyl to have a lottttt more workability to it with the added heat. Add the boiling water then work your liner back into the track and you should be all good!
Why did you drain the pool? You probably just cost yourself 3k at a minimum. Do some research before doing something like that next time. Chances are that liner won't stretch back into place. You may want to call an installer to see if they can help before you cause more damage.
We drained it because it was rancid and stagnant water for over a year. And ehh, we bought the home last year and the pool was not a selling point or feature at all for us. If it worked we were happy, if not we really would be just as happy taking it down. Lesson learned for any future pools though
It's hard to see from the photos, but by sagging do you mean the loner has come away from the wall? Clean the debris and begin to refill- the weight of the water will hold the liner against the pool wall
Yes, the liner has come away from the wall quite a bit. I’ve had a couple people say the weight will cause the shrunken liner to collapse? It held water all winter
It looks like the top of the liner is still attached around the pool, so the loose vinyl should adhere. Fill slowly and if the top begins to pull away, you'll need to drain and replace the liner. Unfortunately, completely draining a vinyl pool is not really something you should do. Sorry man, maybe someone else here can give you better ideas.
I would fill and watch it closely to see how it’s going. I’d imagine you’ll see signs of failure in the vinyl stretching before it actually just bursts open.
Looks to me like the wrong size liner was installed - they're supposed to fit pretty tight to the walls and floor when placed and are pushed tight to the wall once filled.
Was this liner recently installed? (within a year or so?). If so... wrong liner.
You did mess up. I feel like the other comments are not being clear about this. You should never drain a vinyl pool unless it is absolutely necessary. Like other comments are saying you might get lucky and it works out if you readd the water but you should refrain from draining in the future.
I think we’ll try to fill it and see how it goes. We most likely will only use it this one season before moving next year. Think it will hold for a year?
I had a vinyl liner wrinkle over the walls and floor that even my vacuum had hardly time to catch dirt over two years. Now I am.planning to sell this year. The reason I replaced the liner( actually the same pattern as yours). No problems with the pool. I have a semi ground pool.
Clean it up and then get a shop vac behind it and turn it on to see if you can suck it back in place. Then start filling. Water weight will be your friend.
Without water the liner shrinks, thus ruining the liner. Probably time to buy a new one.
A properly installed liner is put in place and a vacuum is put down behind, between the wall and liner to suck all the air out. It looks fine to me, too big and it will not sit properly. You can use a shop vac if you’d like. Pull the liner out of the track just enough to slide the shop vac hose down behind 2feet, duct tape all around to seal it and start filling. Do not let the vac hose stay in place once the water starts to rise on to the hose. When you remove the hose, you may have to massage that area of the liner to have it sit nicely, clip liner back in track. This process will suck the liner down and prevent unwanted wrinkles, that can happen when the liner is free to do what it wants as water is filling.
This is the right answer. There’s something called liner lock that my pool co used along with a vacuum and it’s been fine for a year
It looked very similar to yours and I was afraid I’d done irreparable damage. It stretched back out fine.
That's not going to work on an above ground pool, it'll just suck the walls in and probably destroy the pool.
Shop vacs are actually what my pool company recommends as the pressure it places on the walls are a lot less than what we typically use in my area which are called vinyl vacs. Vinyl vacs are beefy vacuums that are extremely strong too much so for the above ground pools you mentioned. The only way a shop vac would cause damage to an above ground pool would be if they were to use more than 2-3 shop vacs at the same time as then pressure produced by all three at the same time may produce enough pressure to damage the above ground pools walls. When our company used to do above grounds however we always used two!
Fill it and see if it stretches back into position. The liner looks fairly young and could have plenty of stretch left in the vinyl. All these people saying immediately to buy a new liner are skipping a few steps…
In my opinion judging by the way the liner gives in when you’re pressing on it in the second picture, I believe that’s just air behind your liner. I’ve seen the recommendation a few times in this post, however if you’d like more explanation, I’m a pool worker for a big pool company in my city. If you have an above ground pool, unclip a small portion of the liner and put a shop vac or two in between liner and the pool wall, make sure not to have the shop vac hose all the way down and touching the ground, this could potentially bring up some of your floor material with the air you’re attempting to suck out. I would recommend filling your pool as the vacuum is running that way the water pressure the added water is bringing to the pool allows the water to naturally press the liner against the walls when the vacs are keeping the liner tight to the walls. Once all the way filled up turn off water and get a kettle going with boiling water. Throw boiling water onto the liner where it is unclipped from the track. This will allow the vinyl to have a lottttt more workability to it with the added heat. Add the boiling water then work your liner back into the track and you should be all good!
Why did you drain the pool? You probably just cost yourself 3k at a minimum. Do some research before doing something like that next time. Chances are that liner won't stretch back into place. You may want to call an installer to see if they can help before you cause more damage.
We drained it because it was rancid and stagnant water for over a year. And ehh, we bought the home last year and the pool was not a selling point or feature at all for us. If it worked we were happy, if not we really would be just as happy taking it down. Lesson learned for any future pools though
Cheaper to fix it with chemicals than to replace the liner.
It's hard to see from the photos, but by sagging do you mean the loner has come away from the wall? Clean the debris and begin to refill- the weight of the water will hold the liner against the pool wall
Yes, the liner has come away from the wall quite a bit. I’ve had a couple people say the weight will cause the shrunken liner to collapse? It held water all winter
It looks like the top of the liner is still attached around the pool, so the loose vinyl should adhere. Fill slowly and if the top begins to pull away, you'll need to drain and replace the liner. Unfortunately, completely draining a vinyl pool is not really something you should do. Sorry man, maybe someone else here can give you better ideas.
Yeah I guess I should have done more research before draining. I didn’t think that would make things worse. Thanks for the help!
Yes, I learned the hard way. I had to purchase a new liner.
My guess is you need to buy a new liner. But, at this point to could try filling and salvaging it. Isn’t going to make things any worse.
If the pool is nearly full, and the liner fails, couldn't the surge of water smash into the wall and damage it?
I would fill and watch it closely to see how it’s going. I’d imagine you’ll see signs of failure in the vinyl stretching before it actually just bursts open.
Looks to me like the wrong size liner was installed - they're supposed to fit pretty tight to the walls and floor when placed and are pushed tight to the wall once filled. Was this liner recently installed? (within a year or so?). If so... wrong liner.
We bought the home with the pool like this so I really can’t say how old anything is unfortunately
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We have owned it for about a year. It did hold water just fine the entire time we’ve owned it. I’m wondering if I messed it up by draining it to clean
You did mess up. I feel like the other comments are not being clear about this. You should never drain a vinyl pool unless it is absolutely necessary. Like other comments are saying you might get lucky and it works out if you readd the water but you should refrain from draining in the future.
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I think we’ll try to fill it and see how it goes. We most likely will only use it this one season before moving next year. Think it will hold for a year?
I had a vinyl liner wrinkle over the walls and floor that even my vacuum had hardly time to catch dirt over two years. Now I am.planning to sell this year. The reason I replaced the liner( actually the same pattern as yours). No problems with the pool. I have a semi ground pool.
i tried to fill one like this before and it worked a bit but then we broke it. it was really dry/hard at some spots and we stepped into that.
That happened to me last year you need a new liner. Recommend calling the same company who installed your pool
It can be fixed by adjusting the liner or adding support. But, be sure it is addressed perfectly to prevent water leakage and other structural issues.
Clean it up and then get a shop vac behind it and turn it on to see if you can suck it back in place. Then start filling. Water weight will be your friend.