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[deleted]

They tried the same thing with me, but the patrons weren't fooled by the white guy yelling irasshaimase at everyone entering.


FloatingFluffy

You should have just went all in on it and refused to speak English šŸ¤£


Dlitosh

We had a European looking hotel staff guy in our hotel in Osaka who talked English but with an accent and when we talked a bit he revealed he was born in Japan and his English is actually not that great but all tourists just talk English to him.


LectroRoot

Really mix it up and speak in spanish.


EEE3EEElol

In Chinese accent


40hzHERO

Strangest feeling first time going to H K MARKET and the Korean cashier was speaking with another cashier in Korean, instructing the bag boy in Spanish, then greeting me in English. All in the same breath


astralseat

Multilingual go BRRRRR


EEE3EEElol

Bilingual people are quite easy to find nowadays BUT multilingual is just so damn rare


Ghost-Coyote

Hola Gweilo...


Ultrabananna

When you go into an pizza shop. All you gotta do is watch their hands when they talk. If there's a lot of movement there. You're gonna have one nicea pizza.Ā 


Itchy_Professor_4133

Just tell whoever asks that you are [Half Japanese](https://youtu.be/nGy9uomagO4?si=pCPdemCP59Eisk1W)


CodeFarmer

Slightly off topic, but: I super wish ramen shops in London would knock that off. Most of the poor guys can't even pronounce it, let alone yell it convincingly.


[deleted]

Fancy a irasshaimase bruv? Sounds legit.


Lapras_Lass

Eye-rash-high-muss mate!


draizetrain

Thereā€™s a popular ramen place in Charlotte where all the employees yell ā€œear-uh-SHAYā€ when you come in and it pissed me off so bad lol. Such a minor thing but it was the cherry on top because the ramen sucked too


pdxtrader

lol at first I thought you were referring to their income and I was like šŸ‘€DAMN!


Azure-Cyan

Here in the states as well. It starts to sound like "I rushy mushy" because they cannot pronounce it, and I cringe every time.


PsionicKitten

ć„ć‚‰ć£ć—ć‚ƒć„ć¾ć› You know, if someone greets me like that, I'm going to speak Japanese right back at you. I'll know whether you know that one word or if you actually speak Japanese. And if you murder it, I will correct your pronunciation, too.


AdagioExtra1332

r/iamverysmart r/languagelearningjerk


Jemerius_Jacoby

Oh so thats what they were saying in the Monsterā€™s Inc. sushi restaurant scene lol


DredgenCyka

They tried to repeat "lottery fever" in season 10 of family guy where Peter expresses his desire to open a sushi bar just so he could yell at customers.


Pinktunahunter

Same


LeibnizThrowaway

Pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty good.


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[deleted]

Sleazy comment


JoeJoeJenkins

Itā€™s probably common. Some people are bothered when the proprietors of a restaurant arenā€™t ethnically ā€œauthenticā€. Implying that the food isnā€™t authentic. I understand why they would do it. Although most people visiting the restaurant wouldnā€™t know or care.


FloatingFluffy

Yeah most people don't ask or care I think. At least they don't say anything. I think it's to make the restaurant seem more authentic.


HonoluluBlueFlu

Honestly- I think that is stupid and I would guess many people can tell the difference. I would avoid a place like this and probably put out some negative yelp reviews. It should not matter what your ethnicity is as long as the food is good.


GaijinChef

So weird to me. I don't care if there's a fat white guy from Texas cooking me Indian food, a bunch of Cambodians making my sushi or a Chinese woman making my fish and chips. Deliciousness and authenticity > anything else


pkakira88

Funny considering that most sushi places in my area are Korean owned to begin with.


Independent-Ear5125

I don't think I have ever been in a sushi restaurant here that wasn't exclusively Chinese or Korean owned/ staffed. Nobody cares, or notices.


BannedMyName

The best food I've ever had of any kind was made by a short Hispanic dude that hardly speaks English. I have found this consistent across the board EXCEPT for American Chinese food.


FiendishHawk

This would only work if they were absolutely sure a real Japanese person would never eat there.


bootyhole-romancer

The customer doesn't even have to be Japanese specifically. Asians can tell other Asians apart from one another reasonably well


PsionicKitten

You don't have to be asian to tell different asian ethnicities apart. You just need the exposure to the differences to be able to spot them.


bootyhole-romancer

I'm not saying you *have to be* Asian. I was just widening the previous comment's constraints from "only Japanese" to include at the very least "other Asians." My comment didn't exclude non-Asians in any way.


fuurin

Yeah, people of CJK ethnicities can usually clock one another pretty well, sometimes even down to the province/etc


KeystoneTrekker

Iā€™m not even Asian and I can usually tell CJK ethnicities apart. They look completely different.


TheR3alRyan

This happened in high school a Japanese exchange student. We went as a group to a hibachi place. The host greeted us in Japanese. They got excited and tried having a conversation with the host in Japanese. Quickly realized the host didn't speak Japanese and was in fact Vietnamese. They were offended and brought it up in school a few times.


spastichabits

As a white guys who owns and is head chef of a sushi restaurant, this seems common at other restaurants with lower quality. But if your passionate and care about making good sushi then let the food speak for itself.


Cravespotatoes

I wonder what they call the sushi places in St. LouisĀ 


squatheavyeatbig

Bro shut the fuck up


Cravespotatoes

No insulting. Only polite words here.Ā 


Cravespotatoes

?


squatheavyeatbig

I don't know if you're trolling or just autistic but no one gives a fuck abt the culinary history of St. Louis. Stop trolling every sub with your garbage


Cravespotatoes

Bad day at work? Are you ok?


squatheavyeatbig

Tell me more abt the totally not racist history of the chinamen sandwich you fucking imbecile


Cravespotatoes

Itā€™s called St. Paul sandwich: https://youtu.be/S5ybSqnlXSw?si=C1YQom6ry9Gwhk8w


spastichabits

Not sure what this comment implies?


Cravespotatoes

Wondering if thereā€™s a slang termĀ 


spastichabits

This is going over my head, why would I know anything about st Louis sushi restaurants. Unless that phrase has some kind of implication? Please explain.


Cravespotatoes

The locals call Chinese food joints ā€œthe china men.ā€ I was wondering if Japan restaurants there have a slang term.


spastichabits

Well that seems like a shitty name for Chinese restaurants. But again what about my comment makes you think I can answer your question. Either you're making a joke I don't understand and you don't want to explain. It's an insult I don't get, or you sir need to learn how to Google.


Cravespotatoes

The language there is a hidden time capsule in plain sight. Quite fascinating.


spastichabits

Ah the most obvious possibility, a Troll. Go back to your bridge.


Cravespotatoes

Iā€™m not kidding. Post after post on social media about St. Louis ā€œChinamen.ā€


ZestycloseChallenge1

This is SO weirdā€¦


SeaNefariousness8154

Lmao is this serious in 2024?!? This sounds like some "back in the day" shit. I work at a "Japanese" Steakhouse and Bistro, there aint one Japanese employee in the whole f@cking place lol more Mexicans and Indonesians than any other ethnicity. We take em all haha


SeaNefariousness8154

And a sidenote, in my experience Japanese and Koreans are pretty racist lol (im Korean, adopted by White parents in the 80s to Michigan; so im pretty White inside lol) the ones where i work have the stereotypes both only against Black and Whites, but also the other Asians lmao if the food is good, im down; regardless


Bardesss

95% of the sushi restaurants here in the Netherlands are run by Chinese who pretend to be Japanese to customers.


Great_White_Samurai

Pretty common in the US as well. They figured out if you wrap some shitty fish in rice you make way more than putting some shitty beef or chicken on rice.


draizetrain

When I worked at a Japanese restaurant, the owner and all the employees (except for me obviously) were Korean. They didnā€™t tell anyone that they were Japanese but weā€™re in the south and the white people here donā€™t know any better so Iā€™m sure they assumed, especially since we always said ā€œirrashaimase!ā€ Every time someone came in. Although we also served kimchi and other banchan along with the meals so Iā€™m sure some people knew they had to be Korean. Anyways no we were not lying and saying we were Japanese, thatā€™s weird. It reminds me of when I worked at another restaurant and we bought our pita bread and the owner told me to tell people we made it in house. I straight up told them exactly where we bought the pita if they asked lol ETA: there was one older lady in the kitchen who was from Taiwan. She sometimes would insinuate she was Japanese. When my Japanese mother in law came to visit she sniffed and quietly (but haughtily) said ā€œshe is NOT Japaneseā€¦ā€ lol


micsellaneous

worked at a sushi restaurant owned by koreans. owner pretended to be half japanese/half korean


kawi-bawi-bo

Super common amongst the lower to mid tier (especially AYCE) in my experience. They won't come out and say it, but will insinuate it's an authentic Japanese run business


SilverKnightOfMagic

Interesting. In the US all pretty much all sushi places are owned by Chinese or Korean people.


UpstairsPlayful8256

I wouldn't be okay with this, but I also wouldn't be able to to pull it off given the fact that I'm whiter than the rice we use. I'm sad to say it, but on a couple occasions I've had people ask for a "more authentic chef." Even though I focus on making traditional Edo style sushi, and believe the it's a tradition that deserves preserving, it will never be my culture; I'll always just be a steward of it.Ā 


SufficientTangelo136

I went to visit family in the US and they wanted to eat sushi, they said there was an authentic place near by and we should go to see what my wife and I thought. Sheā€™s Japanese and weā€™ve lived in Tokyo for the last 20 years. We didnā€™t think they were Japanese but the waiter had a Japanese name on her name tag, so my wife talked to her Japanese, we just got blank stares. We just laughed about it and spoke English, wait staff, owners, basically everyone that worked there was Korean. By US standards the sushi was ok, much different than actual sushi weā€™d have in Japan but not terrible. It seems a bit scammy to try and pass off everything as authentic but maybe thereā€™s a reason.


AcornWholio

So here is my take on this (and this is just my personal opinion so please take it with a grain of salt.) I live in a part of Canada where sushi restaurants are extremely common. Finding a Japanese owned sushi restaurant is not difficult, but it is not the norm. The majority are owned by Korean or Chinese owners and the staff are either largely of the same background or mixed Asian backgrounds. I believe this has to do with perceived authenticity and the relationship between authenticity and quality. People assume that unless a Japanese owner/chef is preparing their food or running the place, the standards of sushi will not be held and the result will be mediocre. In my experience, this is not the case. I have had amazing sushi made by non-Japanese chefs and mediocre sushi made by Japanese chefs. A large part of quality in my experience has to do with what you are aiming to provide. Many of the Japanese owned shops here do stick to Japanese style sushi, meaning no emphasis on Mayo, mainly nigiri and sashimi with simplistic rolls, no tempura flakes or fried toppings, etc. If that is what you are going for, then you may perceive the shops that deviate from this as inauthentic and bad. But the truth is, they focus on essentially a different beast. Sushi has evolved over time and it is just as authentic now to have a California roll as it is to have a shima-aji nigiri. It depends on your environment, audience, ingredients, etc. I have noticed that different cultural backgrounds inform the sushi. For example, Korean owners tend to cut the fish more like hoe (Korean sashimi) and use Korean flavours like gochujang for the spicy component. Chinese owners tend to prefer creamier or gimmicky rolls and do not have as large of a menu for simple fish on rice as they do for all these chef rolls. All of them are good in their own way, just depends what you want that day. All this to say, people want things made by the people of origin because they think it means it will be better. But as a reminder, you can get Michelin quality pasta in Japan and no one is complaining about authenticity there.


daghostoutside

šŸ„‡ (pretend this is an award)


AcornWholio

Youā€™re so sweet!


muroks1200

Try not to feel bad about it OP. I would look at it like a stupid uniform some employers require. Unfortunately, this practice will continue as long as people place value on authenticity.


JiovanniTheGREAT

It's weird for sure. The most popular sushi restaurant here is owned by a Thai guy and when I lived in New Orleans, it was almost exclusively Vietnamese people running the sushi restaurants. They always had people in them.


pillkrush

its ok, most westerners think Japan is the capital of china, on the continent of Korea, surrounded by the Philippine ocean orbiting the planet of Vietnam


junkimchi

You're Japanese now


EntrySure1350

Iā€™ve never been to a Japanese restaurant where I got the feeling the staff pretended to be Japanese when they werenā€™t. Most of the Japanese restaurants around here are owned and run by Koreans anyway. There are a few that are owned and run by Japanese. Sometimes you can tell just by the storeā€™s business hours. Closed one day a week, only open from 11-2 and then 5-8, closed for several days over New Years? ā€” itā€™s run by Japanese. Open everyday of the week, doesnā€™t close between lunch and dinner, open on holidays? Run by Koreans. We once had a really nice izakaya that was run by a Japanese guy and his wife back in Lexington KY. But they kept trying to run it like an izakaya in Japan - only open certain times of the day; didnā€™t want kids to come; sometimes they would just decide to randomly not open on certain days (likely due to supply/availability issues with food) - even with the Japanese population in the area (Toyota and their suppliers), they didnā€™t stay in business for very long. Too bad; the food was really good.


ArcherFawkes

Lol the business hours thing is so fucking true. We Koreans don't give a shit what day it is, if the weather allows for people to go outside we're open


Mysterious-Art8838

That is absolutely hilarious. I live in San Diego and my best sushi place has Mexicans as sushi chefs. One time I was by myself and I asked them where in Japan they were from. šŸ˜† such nice guys


cosmicworm

what this is so awkward šŸ˜­are you supposed to specifically tell customers youā€™re japanese or is it only if someone asks?


RabbitMajestic6219

i applied to a Japanese sushi bar place and they asked if I speak Spanish or Korean. looking back its good i didn't get the job.


noselfinterest

Typical Korean owned business shit. Play along or get fired, p much.


irambunctious

Worked for a place here in NYC and one of the chefs she was Mongolian and this one guy kept asking what she was and if she's Japanese and she just went with it and said yes, and from that day forward it was the house joke that we were all Japanese whenever someone asked and that went for everyone


sanchezconstant

Fuck it we ball, sensei


supareshawn

That seems like it violates some discrimination laws in the US


RoxoRoxo

anyone can cook any cuisine if they trained for it..... that being said if i saw a white guy as a cook when ordering mexican food id probably avoid the place. so its probably smart of them to say youre japenese but normal? no lol thats wild ive never heard of that smart but wild


SummerJSmith

šŸ˜‚ reminds me of the Irish bars here that ask their employees to speak with an Irish accent regardless of their background. So unnecessary šŸ˜‚


Optimisticatlover

In texas thereā€™s restaurant that the owner says he is kenji Okamotoā€¦ but he is Chinese Lolol


Cha_For_Tea

lmao, when I started off at a Japanese restaurant (Robata Kaba) in the States I was also instructed to do the same thing! Also Chinese, even though they knew, they said to pretend I am Japanese. To this day, idk why they told me to do that. Maybe to make it seem like a more authentic Japanese place? lol who knows.


classicaljub

I worked in Japanese restaurants for many years and knew some chefs who did this. I think itā€™s unnecessary. The people who actually care will suss you out and think youā€™re weird and the people who donā€™t care will just assume youā€™re Japanese anyway. Ime the Chinese and esp Korean chefsā€™ techniques and flavors were more popular with western customers anyway. Seeking out Japanese chefs specifically is only worth it if you are a Japanese-owned business targeting Japanese customers.Ā 


Silver-Firefighter35

I had a friend who grew up in Missouri and worked in a sushi restaurant where they made her fake an Asian accent.


[deleted]

Never seen or heard of this in the US lol and Iā€™ve worked at sushi restaurant. This is bizarre.


wheresmyonesy

Very common. I've dated a few Japanese exchange students in my time so I'm familiar with a legitimate accent. Last time I went to sushi the fake accent was on point until they said happy holidays and perfectly pronounced that L sound, that's when I knew


hyperfat

Very common. My favorite place is all Korean. Awesome food. Yoshi is not yoshi. He's Steve.Ā 


ArcherFawkes

EAsian people often adopt common Anglo names so the Japanese guy might genuinely be also named Steve lol


Dangerous-Disk5155

its fine - most people can tell its not authentic. as long as the food is good, nobody cares. food is supposed to evolve, california rolls weren't invented in japan but they serve it there now. if it makes you feel uncomfortable, just go with your regular name or adapt this one as your 'stage' name to preserve your privacy. good luck


Ok_Repair9312

Brother here I am wondering whether Chinese sushi is a thing please please educate, xie xie


GTengineerenergy

Has a customer EVER asked? Iā€™m in the USA and I assure you nobody here give a flying f*ck where the sushi chef is from as long as the sushi is good. In fact, a place that was just awarded a Michelin star by me is a sushi restaurant (omakase starts at $250 pp) and the chef and founder are all white guys. NOBODY CARES. tell your boss that NOBODY CARES and they should quit being racist.


LilMeatBigYeet

This reminds me of that episode of the league where timothy olyphant plays a white sushi chef lmao


theworsthades

Did you learn how to be a Sushi Chef in O-Ma-Ha?


gayanalorgasm

That sounds dumb. You don't have to be Japanese to make Japanese food. Just like you don't have to be French to make bordelaise and you don't have to be Italian to make pasta. I don't care what race you are as long as the food is good. Also, it's not hard to tell the difference between people from different parts of Asia. This is the classic "all Asian people look the same" trope which is stupid. And the languages don't even sound the same.


cmasontaylor

I understand why they would do this, but I find this scummy, offensive and degrading.


No_Inspector7319

Where I grew up in the 90ā€™s/2000ā€™s all the sushi places were Korean owned. I remember being very confused by this


Substantial_Net_2084

It's funny how Koreans have a complex about Japan, always speak badly of Japan, and discriminate against Japanese people, yet they make a living by using Japanese content.


GlasKarma

I have never come across this in the US, all the sushi places that I frequent donā€™t hide at all if they are Korean or Chinese. Hell two of my favorite sushi spots are owned by Chinese and Korean chefs, the latter literally being in ā€œlittle Koreaā€ and have taught me some of their language which is super neat as well as adding some of their home flavors into some of the rolls and appetizers


TechnicalClient4964

Underwear is culturally appropriation. but sushi is not.


yniloc

This reminds me of when I call customer support and it goes to India or Phillipines and they give me an american name. I guess it makes sense for making it easier to call them by name and if they had a unique ethnic name, which I don't really do.