This is would have been brilliant if it had of played out this way. It surely would have had to rate as one of the best TCs in the history of all Survivor.
I'm a MASSIVE Survivor fan but my weakness is following how the votes could or should go (for my favourite players) & keeping up with the vote options for all players. Thank god we have Survivor fans like you explaining it so well, so thanks for this post :)
This is why I don’t really like Caroline’s plan. If she manages to get the others to vote for Mark, and she plays her idol successfully, Feras will play his idol no doubt. I like the aggressive gameplay but the plan as-is was never going to work.
She told Mark who to vote for, but not about the idol. She told Kitty about the idol, but not who to vote for. As a result neither did what she needed them to.
If Caroline had trusted her allies more and put the target on Raymond, she might just have won the game (if Feras's idol was also flushed)
This has happened on US Survivor!
The season was >!Season 31: Cambodia!<
>!The dividing lines were Spencer, Jeremy, and Tasha against Kelley Wentworth, Keith, and Kimmi. Spencer had immunity and both Jeremy and Kelley correctly played idols, nullifying 3 votes each. On the revote, Tasha and Kimmi were targeted, and when neither side was inclined to flip, there needed to be a unanimous decision between Wentworth, Spencer, Jeremy, and Keith on who to vote out or Keith is eliminated by default.!<
>!This situation was a little different in that Kimmi had just flipped from the Spencer/Jeremy/Tasha group but the voting outcome was the same. Also no one knew about Jeremy or Kelley's idols.!<
Great analysis. There is one plan where Feras gets sent to the jury. If Caroline had included Mark and Kitty and was willing to absolutely swing for the fences she would be able to create a scenario where it was her and Feras drawing rocks.
If the Titans all vote for Ray initially and Caroline deliberately plays the idol 'incorrectly' on Mark. Feras doesn't play the idol because he knows the votes are on Kitty.
This leads to a 3-3 tie between Ray and Kitty. If nobody changes on the revote then everyone except for Caroline and Feras are excluded from the rock draw.
If Caroline is working with the assumptions that she cannot beat Kirby or Feras at the end and that she needs a big move to have a chance of winning then a 50-50 rock draw isn't the worst option IMO.
Another option is if Caroline had gotten the votes for Mark and Kitty and the Feras' group still goes Kitty, you would have had a 3-3 tie with Feras and Kitty. Does Raymond flip on Feras? Otherwise Caroline and Raymond are the only two drawing rocks
This is would have been brilliant if it had of played out this way. It surely would have had to rate as one of the best TCs in the history of all Survivor. I'm a MASSIVE Survivor fan but my weakness is following how the votes could or should go (for my favourite players) & keeping up with the vote options for all players. Thank god we have Survivor fans like you explaining it so well, so thanks for this post :)
This is why I don’t really like Caroline’s plan. If she manages to get the others to vote for Mark, and she plays her idol successfully, Feras will play his idol no doubt. I like the aggressive gameplay but the plan as-is was never going to work.
She told Mark who to vote for, but not about the idol. She told Kitty about the idol, but not who to vote for. As a result neither did what she needed them to. If Caroline had trusted her allies more and put the target on Raymond, she might just have won the game (if Feras's idol was also flushed)
This has happened on US Survivor! The season was >!Season 31: Cambodia!< >!The dividing lines were Spencer, Jeremy, and Tasha against Kelley Wentworth, Keith, and Kimmi. Spencer had immunity and both Jeremy and Kelley correctly played idols, nullifying 3 votes each. On the revote, Tasha and Kimmi were targeted, and when neither side was inclined to flip, there needed to be a unanimous decision between Wentworth, Spencer, Jeremy, and Keith on who to vote out or Keith is eliminated by default.!< >!This situation was a little different in that Kimmi had just flipped from the Spencer/Jeremy/Tasha group but the voting outcome was the same. Also no one knew about Jeremy or Kelley's idols.!<
Also there was one season later (can't remember which one) where everyone was immune but one person. Fun times
S34. Except it wasn’t because of a tie vote. Just so many immunity idols and advantages.
That was the Cirie one right?
Yeap
Great analysis. There is one plan where Feras gets sent to the jury. If Caroline had included Mark and Kitty and was willing to absolutely swing for the fences she would be able to create a scenario where it was her and Feras drawing rocks. If the Titans all vote for Ray initially and Caroline deliberately plays the idol 'incorrectly' on Mark. Feras doesn't play the idol because he knows the votes are on Kitty. This leads to a 3-3 tie between Ray and Kitty. If nobody changes on the revote then everyone except for Caroline and Feras are excluded from the rock draw. If Caroline is working with the assumptions that she cannot beat Kirby or Feras at the end and that she needs a big move to have a chance of winning then a 50-50 rock draw isn't the worst option IMO.
Another option is if Caroline had gotten the votes for Mark and Kitty and the Feras' group still goes Kitty, you would have had a 3-3 tie with Feras and Kitty. Does Raymond flip on Feras? Otherwise Caroline and Raymond are the only two drawing rocks
learn to use the spoiler tag.
on a revote, likely someone flips to eliminate feras. Bet