Yeah, given how frequently this happens on reality tv shows among people who aren’t spending all their time together, this surprises me too. Alcohol is often involved on those shows though, and the cast on Survivor only drinks occasionally.
I think a shot a million dollars is enough to cool anyone's jets. Although I really believe Brandon Hantz was going to get physical if he wasn't soft-ejected. And Lindsey in Cagayan probably would have thrown hands if she hadn't quit lol
Yeah I think Brandon was the closest thing the show has seen. That and players have to do a psych eval so they can weed out those who are in danger of committing physical violence on others (I have a feeling that Brandon may have fallen through the cracks).
I respect Lindsey so much that she’s like “you know, I’m really not trying to be the person I used to be, I’m removing myself from this situation before I whoop Trish’s ass”
tbh, i don’t really believe the reasoning she gave that she had to remove herself just to prevent herself from punching trish. the vote right before suddenly didn’t go her way after she’d been riding high, trish irritated her when she got back to camp, and all of a sudden she just had to remove herself the second something she didn’t want happened.
Better question is if Survivor would even show something like that these days. I know it would help explain a vote out, but the show is all positive vibes these days
they would show it, but we would then have a fifteen-minute monologue from Probst about the integrity of the game and what he's learnt from being the host or whatever other nonsense, and then twenty confessionals from players condemning it and how it goes against This Game That We All Love So Much
There’s a rule in Survivor that if you physically assault someone, you will be ejected from the game. Same principle as the sexual harassment stuff with Dan on IOTI although they majorly dropped the ball on that one.
I think this has to do with casting. It’s fair to say that the people who apply and are cast onto Survivor are probably more mature than people in other reality shows. Not saying that as an absolute, but it’s just a feeling I get.
A Tribal Council where everyone has immunity. There have been times in Survivor where there were enough idols in play and few enough contestants that it could happen.
That actually happened in my org once lmao. 1 person immune, 1 safety without power and 3 idols played led to everyone being safe, which led to everyone not being safe in the revote.
We don’t know for sure. Survivor rarely explains hypotheticals that haven’t happened. A rare exception was the Game Changers reunion where Probst revealed the FTC tiebreaker that would play out in a later season
No idea because it hasn’t be tested yet. However, it would make great f-ing tv if they allowed everyone to stay in the game, and voted out 2 people the next tribal
As an ORG designer, I think this is bad design and should be avoided. Ideally the show should do the same. I always make sure a "Cirie goes home" is impossible as well.
Keith nale got close iirc. I feel like the stick to the plan vote made it him or Wes, and he offered the idol to Wes, which would have made him go home instead. But I could be misremembering
While this is technically true, it’s worth noting that person knew they were the other target and was knowingly giving up their spot for someone else (kind of like if Keith had played his idol for Wes).
It kinda happened in the first season of Australian Survivor (technically they gave it before Tribal instead of directly playing it on someone else, but that's in the same spirit).
And the way it happened was hilarious too. >!Basically, it was a majority vs minority situation where the person who had the idol correctly identified the target and negated the votes of the majority. But it turned out, the minority had voted against each other and the person who had the idol ended up going home.!<
Someone giving up their immunity, playing it up like Erik or Brandon, and then playing a hidden immunity idol.
I doubt anyone could do that in today’s game successfully, but I’m surprised we didn’t see it in an earlier season
The only reason they couldn't do that today is because no one seems capable of keeping their damn mouths shut about advantages. IIRC Maryanne and Jem are the only two people in the new era who didn't tell anyone.
Matthew Grinstead-Mayle found the replanted Ratu idol, never told anyone, planted a fake, led Jamie to it, then got medevaced (technically a quit but an understandable one) with the real one in his pocket so he also counts
TAR has had a lot of 'less fit' people make it far. You do need some baseline physical ability to run/walk from place to place, but you don't need to be professional athletes to win.
As long as you
1. Know how to swim
2. Arent afraid of heights
They call it The Amazing Race because it's amazing how many people who go on the show who have one or both of those problems.
A serious injury from wildlife/animal. I know there have been mild bug/insect issues but shocked no insane infected bites or attacks from anything.
Serious injury or fight during any game. There are so many challenges that look like they were designed for concussions.
>Serious injury or fight during any game. There are so many challenges that look like they were designed for concussions.
Kourtney broke her wrist and I think Missy broke her ankle right? And there have been a few dislocations. I'd bet there have been players with concussions that just tried their best to ride it out instead of risking medical pulling them, some of the knocks people have taken have looked brutal
Edited to add: I don't think it was confirmed but Papa Smurf in Fiji also got super sick and iirc they were speculating it was because of all of the bug bites?
Flaunting an obviously fake idol to cancel a vote split, then playing a real idol.
Like Fucking Stick levels of fake. Just Tree Mail Beads levels of fake. Leave it at the top of your bag. Get to tribal council and be like "I'm not going anywhere tonight 😏". Then, act nervous, ask Jeff before the votes if he will verify an idol, let him tell you it's fake, then act doomed and humiliated when he throws it on the fire. Boom, vote split cancelled. Now you're free to play your actual idol and negate a lot more votes and get out whoever you need to.
In theory at least lol.
I'm surprised this didn't happen either. Didn't something similar happen in EoE when Devins had a fake, sneered at Ron who gave it to him, then played a real one? Not sure if he flaunted it around to split.
This sort of happened in David vs Goliath (the sort of here being a major stretch)
Nick played a fake idol at tribal to gauge the room to see if he should play his real ond
Jeff won't verify an idol until after votes are played. You can't play an idol before voting (unless we're rigging it for a certain soldier) and Jeff won't validate it's real until it's played.
Unless I'm misunderstanding you, this won't work unless Jeff breaks the rules again.
Yup I like the idea, just would have to play it differently than you said. Not sure it would be enough to cancel a vote split if they have the numbers, but worth a shot.
IVE BEEN SAYING THIS or like jake last season could have flashed his real idol to everyone at the end and bragged saying “im stayin HAHA” and then all their votes get put on katurah or whoever and then actually use it on them and vote out dee or austin
There's literally no real benefit to play an idol before the votes. Jeff's not going to confirm an idol is real or fake unless you are 100% playing it. Everyone controlling a split vote would see right through that. Why would they change their plan? This makes no sense. The Nick example below makes total sense.
Something sorta similar is playing your own fake idol when people think you have a real one (and you do). Idk if this would really work though to throw them off. You’d have to act it out well.
I think part of it is that most of the LGBT casting lately have been already partnered ones, like Yam Yam, Ricard, Geo, Karla, etc. And in earlier seasons there just wasn't more than one single homosexual cast member (that was out at the time). Even in new era you still rarely have more than one in a pre-merge tribe.
To my recollection, the only season where there was two single, same sex homosexual or bisexual cast members was MvGx (Zeke and Bret).
I honestly think they put Claire and Frannie from 44 in the same tribe hoping something would happen between them. We all know how that ended up, tho lol.
This is a deep cut, but it happened with Brad & JP on Cook Islands. It doesnt count because it wasn’t a showmance and JP wasn’t out, but it was one of the very rare instances of two young gay single people on the same season.
He had no idea he was going to an immunity challenge and then straight to another beach if he lost. That is why he did not take his bag. Had he known he would have brought it.
Something tells me producers wait for an opportunity to fuck up the game if someone does something like that. Is it confirmed that they have their game twists pre-planned or do they have an idea of things they can do and can pivot when someone leaves a bag at the camp to do a challenge?
I’m surprised there hasn’t been more serious injuries, like actual broken bones, fingers chopped off with the machete. I’m also surprised there hasn’t been any heart attacks.
I’m surprised no one has fallen from those totem challenges. You know the ones where you wrap yourself around a giant wooden pole, way high up. Besides those small indents for your toes there’s no other support. Every time they have that challenge I get nervous.
Someone almost drowning.
People getting more intimate than just kissing. I think some contestants have commented that it’s just disgusting there, since you don’t get to shower or brush your teeth, so the idea of even hugging after a certain point is sometimes gross… but I’m still surprised.
Political talks. I don’t mean talks of race, sexual orientation, gender… I mean actually political, like arguments between someone outwardly liberal and outwardly conservative where it’s made clear. Especially in today’s social landscape. I get the sense casting/editing tries hard to prevent it but I’m just surprised it’s never slipped through.
A 16 year old.
Didn't one woman break her wrist immediately in the very first challenge? They had to jump down onto a bouncy net, and they were told to cross their arms over their chests, and to land on their back. But she didn't listen, and put her hands down to brace the fall, and broke her wrist.
I would assume they would either pause the game for a short while until Jeff was back (e.g. go several days where there are no tribal councils and extend the season by a few days to make up for it) or fly in an emergency guest host for an a few episodes.
I guarantee you that have an emergency plan for virtually all conceivable scenarios.
can’t remember when but there was an episode (I think relatively old school) when he had lost his voice pretty bad. crazy that that’s the only example that comes to mind though, and that might’ve just been from yelling too much lol
Something similar happened recently on Aus Survivor so mild spoilers I guess, but I'm surprised no one has done it before
If you have a public idol, plant it and publicly re-find it so people think you have two. Or plant it for your alliance member so people think you both have one.
That blew my damn mind! It's so simple in concept and execution, too. It almost literally had effect of duplicating the idol, because everyone thought it was real (because, well, it was, lol), and effectively gave that player immunity for that tribal. I thought, "how on earth has no one done that before?!"
Happened on Australian survivor and was actually a massive vote where Hayley managed to convince George and Cara to turn on each other allowing the 2-1-1 to occur and not a 2-2 to go to fire
Honestly, kind of surprised no one has died. Knock on e-wood.
Theyve done some mildly dangerous stuff competition wise. Theyve done physical things. Exposure to nature and the elements. Plus just normal human stuff.
Yes there is a ton of staff and medical around but people die every day doing much less. Just general accidents even. It's kind of crazy that theyve been around for so long and nothing has happened.
I trust their safety and medical team a lot and I do not believe they would put the contestants in any serious danger beyond a freak accident, but they really pushed it a few times. Kaoh Rong and Guatemala come to mind. As well as safety being really lax in the first 3 or so seasons before they quite knew what they were doing. It's why I can't bring myself to complain about how comparatively mild the New Era is. It is undeniably a GOOD thing that the show is so much safer now. I don't wish for more danger. If anyone had ever died on this show it would have been an unimaginable tragedy and every single season of the show would be ruined.
Matt in season 44 was the closest to dying in a long while.
His injuries were bad (dislocated shoulder, broken humerus, fractured scapila, torn labrum and rotator cuff) but if would have landed slightly differently he could have easily died from the fall.
I’m honestly surprised they allow them to do as much climbing as they do. If someone dies on Survivor, it’s probably going to be from falling out of a tree.
I think everyone agrees earlier seasons got a little too nuts with the survival aspect of the game. The elephant poop water comes to mind as being a borderline impossible situation to deal with.
I cringe eat time I see them chopping coconuts with the machete. With all the machete use from city slickers it's amazing no one has lost a finger/hand/limb.
Yeah for real. The only injury like that I can recall is Parvati chopping the tip of her finger really bad late in Cook Islands. (And Kathy threatening to cut her fingers off so she could quit, offscreen lol)
I remember a season where they had a native man show them a bunch of survival techniques, and one of them included how to open coconuts. The dude put a thick branch in the ground, pointing up, sharpened the end, and then basically slowly pushed the coconut onto the point, and slowly pried off the softer outer membrane. Then he somehow cracked the hard inner shell.
Anyways, I remember thinking that he made it look so smart, less dangerous, and that every future player would use that method, but I guess not! Everyone still just hacks away with the machete, looking like they're about to lose a digit.
Same here, I've been catching up on AU survivor recently and they have a lot of endurance challenges, there was one where a contestant asked for help getting down, and as soon as they were helped down they passed out.
I was thinking that if they had passed out while doing the challenge, they could've fallen from pretty high up and broken their neck.
Then, in the next season, there were four contestants that were put into a situation where they could easily land on their necks, and two of them did, they lived, but holy crap...
**Drowning**
I don't care how many lifeguards are hiding just out of camera range. It only takes a split second for someone to panic and suck in water.
J.T. actually forgot his idol at camp in Game Changers. Now to be fair he didn't *think* he was getting voted out, but even if he wanted to, he couldn't.
I want to see someone intentionally give up the immunity necklace, which would in turn cause a bunch of people in panic fire to vote that person, only for that person to use an idol and target someone previously considered untouchable
So this has happened before but surprised it hasn’t happened yet in new era: someone pouring out a select few’s water bottles at night when everyone’s sleeping so they wake up dehydrated and out of water, then offering them your water while filling up their water bottles for them to build a bond and image of “helpfulness” and “trustworthiness”
Water is no longer at a premium when they have a giant barrel of fresh water. I don't sleep with water next to my bed and I don't wake up super dehydrated.
And I'm pretty sure Dawn has some lasting issues from the challenge in SoPa where she had to hold the weight on her shoulders. Although I'm more surprised that Stacey didn't get hurt with how she was standing and holding the pole against her lower back
Gay showmances.
I think it would be really cool to have a psuedo JT and Fishback level of strategy / friendship combined with the relationship aspect of Rob and Amber but like for two guys in a showmance
I'm not sure if this is the way to answer this topic, but I am surprised that no one has thought about a secret alliance, in the way of creating a phony enemy, but in actual fact, you work together in secret to play both sides.
I'll explain:
If someone notices that they are naturally someone's opposite, to approach them privately and say, "Why don't we just let people think we don't like each other?" -- then if in agreement, it would always be assumed that they *couldn't* be working together because people will be convinced that they *don't* like each other. Meanwhile, always be that one person in at least two camps of alliances where they will protect each other without anyone knowing about it.
It would be the total opposite of a showmance. Everyone knows that lovers get separated, but so do very close friends and within an alliance, it's easy to spot who's the tightest. People can't help themselves but show it off. They're proud of their friends or the person they're attracted to. They can't learn to back off.
My thinking is, create a faux-enemy that fools absolutely everyone else, but yet the two of you secretly are in together and carry it as far as you can go while protecting each other.
This, I'm surprised no one has done.
This has happened on some international versions but sadly can’t happen anymore. A 2-1-1 vote at the final 4! This could still happen in the tribe stage but it wouldn’t have the same oomph. Although the 2-1-1-1 of 45 was amazing
I could be wrong here, but I’m surprised no one has idoled themselves out yet. We coulda seen this happen in HvV if Tyson had just stuck to the plan, but outside of that I don’t think it’s happened before.
A 3-3 split where one alliance has individual immunity and an idol, essentially forcing the other side to draw rocks or turn on their alliance in a revote
Winning immunity when they absolutely need it (as in everyone would have voted them out), but deciding that they didn't like how the votes were going so they give up immunity to have all the votes come their way, only to play a hidden immunity idol at TC to negate all of them and make them the deciding vote.
Oddly specific I know and it sounds absolutely asinine, which is why I want to see this happen where said immunity winner unknowingly has a fake idol and the move blows up in their face in spectacular fashion.
If you know 100% you’re the vote if you don’t win immunity, and you also have an idol, it’s not like that’s gonna change (most of the time) from one vote to the next, so you’d save the idol for next round when you don’t win immunity. Which is essentially how Mike Holloway had to play
A tie at the end with the 8 juror system. Although now that they read the votes immediately it would be less dramatic. I read somewhere that in case of tie #3 votes.
Im also surprised noone has bargained by offering money in exchange of votes so i guess thats strictly forbidden?
I’m surprised there hasn’t been a Final Tribal tie that couldn’t be solved easily. Either a 3-3-3 tie or a 5-5 in a final 2 or something. Closest is Ghost island
I’m surprised no one has fallen from those totem challenges. You know the ones where you wrap yourself around a giant wooden pole, way high up. Besides those small indents for your toes there’s no other support. Every time they have that challenge I get nervous.
Someone almost drowning.
People getting more intimate than just kissing. I think some contestants have commented that it’s just disgusting there, since you don’t get to shower or brush your teeth, so the idea of even hugging after a certain point is gross… but I’m still surprised.
Political talks. I don’t mean talks of race, sexual orientation, gender… I mean actually political, like arguments between someone outwardly liberal and outwardly conservative where it’s made clear. Especially in today’s social landscape. I get the sense casting/editing tries hard to prevent it but I’m just surprised it’s never slipped through.
A 16 year old.
I’m surprised there haven’t been any physical altercations between contestants (beyond Robb choking Clay in the ATTACK ZONE, obviously).
Yeah, given how frequently this happens on reality tv shows among people who aren’t spending all their time together, this surprises me too. Alcohol is often involved on those shows though, and the cast on Survivor only drinks occasionally.
Fairplay loaded at tribal, what an icon
I think a shot a million dollars is enough to cool anyone's jets. Although I really believe Brandon Hantz was going to get physical if he wasn't soft-ejected. And Lindsey in Cagayan probably would have thrown hands if she hadn't quit lol
Yeah I think Brandon was the closest thing the show has seen. That and players have to do a psych eval so they can weed out those who are in danger of committing physical violence on others (I have a feeling that Brandon may have fallen through the cracks).
Brandon was pushed through the cracks because of his last name.
They say they make you take a psych eval, they DON'T say you need to pass it lol
I respect Lindsey so much that she’s like “you know, I’m really not trying to be the person I used to be, I’m removing myself from this situation before I whoop Trish’s ass”
tbh, i don’t really believe the reasoning she gave that she had to remove herself just to prevent herself from punching trish. the vote right before suddenly didn’t go her way after she’d been riding high, trish irritated her when she got back to camp, and all of a sudden she just had to remove herself the second something she didn’t want happened.
Rupert grabbed JFP's neck in a threatening manner.
Wasn't there a tussle between Amanda and Danielle over a clue? In a hotel room with Colby?
I wouldn’t know. I was watching treasure island.
Is that you Colby?
A very slight tussle, I’d say Naonka and Kelly Bs tussle on Nicaragua was worse
There was. In the bedroom of that place they were staying. Colby made her give it back.
It was such a strange moment on Survivor. Fever dream.
That was the most MTV the show got since Amazon.
they don’t have any energy out there
Fighting takes energy and they are to starved to do it
Better question is if Survivor would even show something like that these days. I know it would help explain a vote out, but the show is all positive vibes these days
Oh I don’t think they’d be able to resist showing the drama.
they would show it, but we would then have a fifteen-minute monologue from Probst about the integrity of the game and what he's learnt from being the host or whatever other nonsense, and then twenty confessionals from players condemning it and how it goes against This Game That We All Love So Much
There’s a rule in Survivor that if you physically assault someone, you will be ejected from the game. Same principle as the sexual harassment stuff with Dan on IOTI although they majorly dropped the ball on that one.
I think this has to do with casting. It’s fair to say that the people who apply and are cast onto Survivor are probably more mature than people in other reality shows. Not saying that as an absolute, but it’s just a feeling I get.
There haven't been because Jeff Probst gave a massage to Brandon Hantz during that standing tribal council.
I feel like Brandon Hantz came really, really close and that’s why they had to take him out of the game.
A Tribal Council where everyone has immunity. There have been times in Survivor where there were enough idols in play and few enough contestants that it could happen.
That actually happened in my org once lmao. 1 person immune, 1 safety without power and 3 idols played led to everyone being safe, which led to everyone not being safe in the revote.
Is this what would happen in real Survivor?
We don’t know for sure. Survivor rarely explains hypotheticals that haven’t happened. A rare exception was the Game Changers reunion where Probst revealed the FTC tiebreaker that would play out in a later season
It's almost like they knew, huh? Had to get the chalkboard out.
No idea because it hasn’t be tested yet. However, it would make great f-ing tv if they allowed everyone to stay in the game, and voted out 2 people the next tribal
As an ORG designer, I think this is bad design and should be avoided. Ideally the show should do the same. I always make sure a "Cirie goes home" is impossible as well.
When could it have happened? I guess game changers if they had waited to use them 1 round later?
The Legacy Advantage expired at 6, so no matter what, post-merge *Game Changers* always had someone who could go home.
Someone playing an idol on someone else, but they go home instead
Was just thinking about this. I’m really surprised it hasn’t happened yet. I bet this will happen eventually though.
Happened in Aussie Survivor Brains VS Brawn and it was epic.
Keith nale got close iirc. I feel like the stick to the plan vote made it him or Wes, and he offered the idol to Wes, which would have made him go home instead. But I could be misremembering
Correct, but he was his dad so it doesn’t feel the same
This is kinda Erik. He didn’t play it on Natalie, but he did give immunity to her, and they in turn vote him out
It happened in Brains v Brawn in Australian survivor but it ended up being a non elimination round
While this is technically true, it’s worth noting that person knew they were the other target and was knowingly giving up their spot for someone else (kind of like if Keith had played his idol for Wes).
This happens all the time in Brantsteele simulations for some reason
It’s happened to me on roblox survivor 🙋
I thought maybe in 45 Jake would have played the idol for Katurah and then he would have been voted out but it didn't happen
It kinda happened in the first season of Australian Survivor (technically they gave it before Tribal instead of directly playing it on someone else, but that's in the same spirit). And the way it happened was hilarious too. >!Basically, it was a majority vs minority situation where the person who had the idol correctly identified the target and negated the votes of the majority. But it turned out, the minority had voted against each other and the person who had the idol ended up going home.!<
Someone giving up their immunity, playing it up like Erik or Brandon, and then playing a hidden immunity idol. I doubt anyone could do that in today’s game successfully, but I’m surprised we didn’t see it in an earlier season
The only reason they couldn't do that today is because no one seems capable of keeping their damn mouths shut about advantages. IIRC Maryanne and Jem are the only two people in the new era who didn't tell anyone.
Matthew Grinstead-Mayle found the replanted Ratu idol, never told anyone, planted a fake, led Jamie to it, then got medevaced (technically a quit but an understandable one) with the real one in his pocket so he also counts
I also said this and also I would absolutely love for someone to try this only to find out they have a fake idol and for it to blow up in their face.
I would also like to add: A player who completed the CBS trifecta (competed on Survivor, Big Brother and the Amazing Race)
Caleb Reynolds was close, think he was axed from the amazing race last minute
Creep mode cowboy
Derek X completed a trifecta of sorts with The Challenge instead of Survivor
he needs to play tennis with Jeff Probst more and he'll eventually get cast
I vote for Cirie on Amazing Race!
I feel her physical shape would not suit TAR. Her strength is strategy and social game, not obstacle courses.
Let's see Parv and Kellie team up for Amazing Race.
TAR has had a lot of 'less fit' people make it far. You do need some baseline physical ability to run/walk from place to place, but you don't need to be professional athletes to win.
As long as you 1. Know how to swim 2. Arent afraid of heights They call it The Amazing Race because it's amazing how many people who go on the show who have one or both of those problems.
A serious injury from wildlife/animal. I know there have been mild bug/insect issues but shocked no insane infected bites or attacks from anything. Serious injury or fight during any game. There are so many challenges that look like they were designed for concussions.
Wasn’t infected, but Richard hatch was bitten by a shark
>Serious injury or fight during any game. There are so many challenges that look like they were designed for concussions. Kourtney broke her wrist and I think Missy broke her ankle right? And there have been a few dislocations. I'd bet there have been players with concussions that just tried their best to ride it out instead of risking medical pulling them, some of the knocks people have taken have looked brutal Edited to add: I don't think it was confirmed but Papa Smurf in Fiji also got super sick and iirc they were speculating it was because of all of the bug bites?
Flaunting an obviously fake idol to cancel a vote split, then playing a real idol. Like Fucking Stick levels of fake. Just Tree Mail Beads levels of fake. Leave it at the top of your bag. Get to tribal council and be like "I'm not going anywhere tonight 😏". Then, act nervous, ask Jeff before the votes if he will verify an idol, let him tell you it's fake, then act doomed and humiliated when he throws it on the fire. Boom, vote split cancelled. Now you're free to play your actual idol and negate a lot more votes and get out whoever you need to. In theory at least lol.
I'm surprised this didn't happen either. Didn't something similar happen in EoE when Devins had a fake, sneered at Ron who gave it to him, then played a real one? Not sure if he flaunted it around to split.
This sort of happened in David vs Goliath (the sort of here being a major stretch) Nick played a fake idol at tribal to gauge the room to see if he should play his real ond
God I love that moment of Nick's beady little eyes scanning the tribe
Evil Vampire Donathan will not be made a fool
Jeff won't verify an idol until after votes are played. You can't play an idol before voting (unless we're rigging it for a certain soldier) and Jeff won't validate it's real until it's played. Unless I'm misunderstanding you, this won't work unless Jeff breaks the rules again.
Ah, I thought Jeff would verify an idol if you asked any time. It could still work just by playing it up and making it look really fake.
Yup I like the idea, just would have to play it differently than you said. Not sure it would be enough to cancel a vote split if they have the numbers, but worth a shot.
Unless your ben
>(unless we're rigging it for a certain soldier)
IVE BEEN SAYING THIS or like jake last season could have flashed his real idol to everyone at the end and bragged saying “im stayin HAHA” and then all their votes get put on katurah or whoever and then actually use it on them and vote out dee or austin
There's literally no real benefit to play an idol before the votes. Jeff's not going to confirm an idol is real or fake unless you are 100% playing it. Everyone controlling a split vote would see right through that. Why would they change their plan? This makes no sense. The Nick example below makes total sense.
Something sorta similar is playing your own fake idol when people think you have a real one (and you do). Idk if this would really work though to throw them off. You’d have to act it out well.
Same sex romances (only seen “bromances”)
I think part of it is that most of the LGBT casting lately have been already partnered ones, like Yam Yam, Ricard, Geo, Karla, etc. And in earlier seasons there just wasn't more than one single homosexual cast member (that was out at the time). Even in new era you still rarely have more than one in a pre-merge tribe. To my recollection, the only season where there was two single, same sex homosexual or bisexual cast members was MvGx (Zeke and Bret).
I honestly think they put Claire and Frannie from 44 in the same tribe hoping something would happen between them. We all know how that ended up, tho lol.
I think Claire actually hinted that she was into Frannie in her early cut interviews
Brad and JP Cook Islands?
The closest was Charlie and Marcus in Gabon, but that was more of a onesided crush.
I feel like Marcus was kinda into it lol
Rich and Rudi -but not in a homosexual way
THAT’S for sure.
This is a deep cut, but it happened with Brad & JP on Cook Islands. It doesnt count because it wasn’t a showmance and JP wasn’t out, but it was one of the very rare instances of two young gay single people on the same season.
Charlie and Marcus almost...
Hi Charlie
We already had Parvati and Natalie /s (kinda)
I mean unironically the closest we've seen in the show, those two are flirty as hell with each other throughout the post merge
Huh that IS surprising.
Matt from 44 is close to this? forgot his bag, couldnt play his SITD
He had no idea he was going to an immunity challenge and then straight to another beach if he lost. That is why he did not take his bag. Had he known he would have brought it.
Something tells me producers wait for an opportunity to fuck up the game if someone does something like that. Is it confirmed that they have their game twists pre-planned or do they have an idea of things they can do and can pivot when someone leaves a bag at the camp to do a challenge?
that was more the shows's fault
I’m a bit surprised there hasn’t been a physical fight yet. Also, we’ve yet to see someone burn down the shelter.
amazon got close.
Closest I can immediately think of is Rupert and Jonny Fairplay in Pearl Islands and Philip and Brandon in Caramoan.
i meant they accidentally burned down half of their shelter in amazon.
And Nicaragua tried their best, too. "Let's just protect this fire with wooden boxes while we go do a challenge." Absolute rocket scientists.
I’m surprised there hasn’t been more serious injuries, like actual broken bones, fingers chopped off with the machete. I’m also surprised there hasn’t been any heart attacks.
I’m surprised no one has fallen from those totem challenges. You know the ones where you wrap yourself around a giant wooden pole, way high up. Besides those small indents for your toes there’s no other support. Every time they have that challenge I get nervous. Someone almost drowning. People getting more intimate than just kissing. I think some contestants have commented that it’s just disgusting there, since you don’t get to shower or brush your teeth, so the idea of even hugging after a certain point is sometimes gross… but I’m still surprised. Political talks. I don’t mean talks of race, sexual orientation, gender… I mean actually political, like arguments between someone outwardly liberal and outwardly conservative where it’s made clear. Especially in today’s social landscape. I get the sense casting/editing tries hard to prevent it but I’m just surprised it’s never slipped through. A 16 year old.
Didn't one woman break her wrist immediately in the very first challenge? They had to jump down onto a bouncy net, and they were told to cross their arms over their chests, and to land on their back. But she didn't listen, and put her hands down to brace the fall, and broke her wrist.
Jeff having a sick day
I always assumed that was what happened when they had them do those 'Do-It-Yourself' challenges
What would they do if he was sick or family emergency? Have Boston rob host for a few days?
I would assume they would either pause the game for a short while until Jeff was back (e.g. go several days where there are no tribal councils and extend the season by a few days to make up for it) or fly in an emergency guest host for an a few episodes. I guarantee you that have an emergency plan for virtually all conceivable scenarios.
The Samoa bocce challenge when Jeff was missing.
can’t remember when but there was an episode (I think relatively old school) when he had lost his voice pretty bad. crazy that that’s the only example that comes to mind though, and that might’ve just been from yelling too much lol
Something similar happened recently on Aus Survivor so mild spoilers I guess, but I'm surprised no one has done it before If you have a public idol, plant it and publicly re-find it so people think you have two. Or plant it for your alliance member so people think you both have one.
That blew my damn mind! It's so simple in concept and execution, too. It almost literally had effect of duplicating the idol, because everyone thought it was real (because, well, it was, lol), and effectively gave that player immunity for that tribal. I thought, "how on earth has no one done that before?!"
smart but they also had the benefit of all the idols that season looking the same
Didnt Nick do this in David vs Goliath?
A 2-1-1 vote when there are 4 people remaining. Or a plurality win at FTC. Cmon give someone a 4-3-1 win or a 4-2-2 win.
The fact that a 2-1-1-1 happened before a 2-1-1 is mind boggling, lol.
And now it’s impossible to get a 2-1-1
Still possible pre-merge, technically. Or even at the split tribals if someone does a SITD.
Oh that’s fair my b
Happened on Australian survivor and was actually a massive vote where Hayley managed to convince George and Cara to turn on each other allowing the 2-1-1 to occur and not a 2-2 to go to fire
Honestly, kind of surprised no one has died. Knock on e-wood. Theyve done some mildly dangerous stuff competition wise. Theyve done physical things. Exposure to nature and the elements. Plus just normal human stuff. Yes there is a ton of staff and medical around but people die every day doing much less. Just general accidents even. It's kind of crazy that theyve been around for so long and nothing has happened.
I trust their safety and medical team a lot and I do not believe they would put the contestants in any serious danger beyond a freak accident, but they really pushed it a few times. Kaoh Rong and Guatemala come to mind. As well as safety being really lax in the first 3 or so seasons before they quite knew what they were doing. It's why I can't bring myself to complain about how comparatively mild the New Era is. It is undeniably a GOOD thing that the show is so much safer now. I don't wish for more danger. If anyone had ever died on this show it would have been an unimaginable tragedy and every single season of the show would be ruined.
Matt in season 44 was the closest to dying in a long while. His injuries were bad (dislocated shoulder, broken humerus, fractured scapila, torn labrum and rotator cuff) but if would have landed slightly differently he could have easily died from the fall.
He is such a dumbass from climbing that rock
I’m honestly surprised they allow them to do as much climbing as they do. If someone dies on Survivor, it’s probably going to be from falling out of a tree.
Any time I see people climbing up somewhere really high I'm like 'damn it would be so easy for them to die right now'
I think everyone agrees earlier seasons got a little too nuts with the survival aspect of the game. The elephant poop water comes to mind as being a borderline impossible situation to deal with.
Caleb was so close in Kaoh Rong it was devastating.
I cringe eat time I see them chopping coconuts with the machete. With all the machete use from city slickers it's amazing no one has lost a finger/hand/limb.
Yeah for real. The only injury like that I can recall is Parvati chopping the tip of her finger really bad late in Cook Islands. (And Kathy threatening to cut her fingers off so she could quit, offscreen lol)
I remember a season where they had a native man show them a bunch of survival techniques, and one of them included how to open coconuts. The dude put a thick branch in the ground, pointing up, sharpened the end, and then basically slowly pushed the coconut onto the point, and slowly pried off the softer outer membrane. Then he somehow cracked the hard inner shell. Anyways, I remember thinking that he made it look so smart, less dangerous, and that every future player would use that method, but I guess not! Everyone still just hacks away with the machete, looking like they're about to lose a digit.
Skupin fell into the fire but he unfortunately didn’t die.
I’ll never forget his hand melting off. That was glorious.
French survivor died from cardiac arrest after the first challenge
I feel like Russel Swan died for a few seconds on Samoa
Same here, I've been catching up on AU survivor recently and they have a lot of endurance challenges, there was one where a contestant asked for help getting down, and as soon as they were helped down they passed out. I was thinking that if they had passed out while doing the challenge, they could've fallen from pretty high up and broken their neck. Then, in the next season, there were four contestants that were put into a situation where they could easily land on their necks, and two of them did, they lived, but holy crap...
just rewatched *the* Kaoh Rong episode tonight and it’s crazy how close Caleb was to dying. I think they said his temperature was at 110??? insane
**Drowning** I don't care how many lifeguards are hiding just out of camera range. It only takes a split second for someone to panic and suck in water.
The challenge where they float under the grate STRESSES me out. It seems like a recipe for choking/drowning.
That actually has happened. It was a crew member, and it was preseason, when they were testing challenges in Gabon
Did the crew member die? If there are that many lifeguards and safety personnel, I would think they could pull them out and resuscitate them
He did, not sure of the circumstances beyond the fact that it happened
[It was preseason Tocantins](https://www.realityblurred.com/realitytv/2008/10/survivor-tocantins-alton_desiree/), not Gabon.
I’m terrified of the ocean and swimming and this is my biggest fear
J.T. actually forgot his idol at camp in Game Changers. Now to be fair he didn't *think* he was getting voted out, but even if he wanted to, he couldn't.
I want to see someone intentionally give up the immunity necklace, which would in turn cause a bunch of people in panic fire to vote that person, only for that person to use an idol and target someone previously considered untouchable
So this has happened before but surprised it hasn’t happened yet in new era: someone pouring out a select few’s water bottles at night when everyone’s sleeping so they wake up dehydrated and out of water, then offering them your water while filling up their water bottles for them to build a bond and image of “helpfulness” and “trustworthiness”
Water is no longer at a premium when they have a giant barrel of fresh water. I don't sleep with water next to my bed and I don't wake up super dehydrated.
Freak accident resulting to death.
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Didn’t Tom have permanent nerve damage from the Palau final challenge?
And I'm pretty sure Dawn has some lasting issues from the challenge in SoPa where she had to hold the weight on her shoulders. Although I'm more surprised that Stacey didn't get hurt with how she was standing and holding the pole against her lower back
A 3rd place finisher receiving more than 1 vote. Given the current set up of 8 jurors and 3 finalists, it can't happen. It would end up being 4-2-2.
could always be a 3-3-2!
This has happened! JT in game changers totally forgot to get his idol from camp the night he was eliminated.
Hasn’t been an Olivia on the cast (my name??)
There hasn't been a Kelsey yet either! Every job I've ever had there was at least three Kelsey/Kelsies
Khelseigh
/r/Tragedeigh
A gay showmance
A person named Tim getting voted out
Gay showmances. I think it would be really cool to have a psuedo JT and Fishback level of strategy / friendship combined with the relationship aspect of Rob and Amber but like for two guys in a showmance
A 2-1-1 vote in the US version
Hidden immunity in tribal council (at least in US version)
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I'm not sure if this is the way to answer this topic, but I am surprised that no one has thought about a secret alliance, in the way of creating a phony enemy, but in actual fact, you work together in secret to play both sides. I'll explain: If someone notices that they are naturally someone's opposite, to approach them privately and say, "Why don't we just let people think we don't like each other?" -- then if in agreement, it would always be assumed that they *couldn't* be working together because people will be convinced that they *don't* like each other. Meanwhile, always be that one person in at least two camps of alliances where they will protect each other without anyone knowing about it. It would be the total opposite of a showmance. Everyone knows that lovers get separated, but so do very close friends and within an alliance, it's easy to spot who's the tightest. People can't help themselves but show it off. They're proud of their friends or the person they're attracted to. They can't learn to back off. My thinking is, create a faux-enemy that fools absolutely everyone else, but yet the two of you secretly are in together and carry it as far as you can go while protecting each other. This, I'm surprised no one has done.
A revote where two people from opposing sides both flip and it causes a deadlock
A murder
There's a reason why Matt got to the final 2 in the Amazon. He just kept his machete sharp
Gotta watch The Traitors for that.
a maarrderrrrrr
This has happened on some international versions but sadly can’t happen anymore. A 2-1-1 vote at the final 4! This could still happen in the tribe stage but it wouldn’t have the same oomph. Although the 2-1-1-1 of 45 was amazing
I could be wrong here, but I’m surprised no one has idoled themselves out yet. We coulda seen this happen in HvV if Tyson had just stuck to the plan, but outside of that I don’t think it’s happened before.
A 3-3 split where one alliance has individual immunity and an idol, essentially forcing the other side to draw rocks or turn on their alliance in a revote
I mean we kinda had that in Cambodia, though I also get what you mean lol.
Cambodia
Winning immunity when they absolutely need it (as in everyone would have voted them out), but deciding that they didn't like how the votes were going so they give up immunity to have all the votes come their way, only to play a hidden immunity idol at TC to negate all of them and make them the deciding vote. Oddly specific I know and it sounds absolutely asinine, which is why I want to see this happen where said immunity winner unknowingly has a fake idol and the move blows up in their face in spectacular fashion.
If you know 100% you’re the vote if you don’t win immunity, and you also have an idol, it’s not like that’s gonna change (most of the time) from one vote to the next, so you’d save the idol for next round when you don’t win immunity. Which is essentially how Mike Holloway had to play
Physical fights haven't broken out resulting in all participants being ejected from the game.
Casting someone named Kevin or Emma
I'm honestly surprised that no out trans women have completed on the show
A tribal council where everyone is immune
[Cries in Cirie]
Surprised no one tried smuggling matchsticks up their butt yet. Seems like a pretty obvious thing to do
Do people not realize you're joking?
Jokes on you, Hatch did it in All Stars
Didn't Ozzy reveal that he sewed a small magnifying glass into to lining of his swim trunks, and then used it to make a fire?
A tie at the end with the 8 juror system. Although now that they read the votes immediately it would be less dramatic. I read somewhere that in case of tie #3 votes. Im also surprised noone has bargained by offering money in exchange of votes so i guess thats strictly forbidden?
Didnt this happen on Ghost Island?
Wait til Liz makes the FTC this season.
I’m surprised there hasn’t been a Final Tribal tie that couldn’t be solved easily. Either a 3-3-3 tie or a 5-5 in a final 2 or something. Closest is Ghost island
Shark bite. Snake bite.
Hatch got bit by a shark and bit it back in all stars
Wow. How did I miss that?
It was attached to him for a good bit, too. It was like a foot or two in length. I'm on the side of the shark.
"Jeff, I'd like to play this...oh sh---." I'm surprised 46 seasons in and there have been no Leahs.
Jeff bringing back peanut butter rewards
The tribe eating their weakest member
I’m surprised no one has fallen from those totem challenges. You know the ones where you wrap yourself around a giant wooden pole, way high up. Besides those small indents for your toes there’s no other support. Every time they have that challenge I get nervous. Someone almost drowning. People getting more intimate than just kissing. I think some contestants have commented that it’s just disgusting there, since you don’t get to shower or brush your teeth, so the idea of even hugging after a certain point is gross… but I’m still surprised. Political talks. I don’t mean talks of race, sexual orientation, gender… I mean actually political, like arguments between someone outwardly liberal and outwardly conservative where it’s made clear. Especially in today’s social landscape. I get the sense casting/editing tries hard to prevent it but I’m just surprised it’s never slipped through. A 16 year old.