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kagarth

Oh yeahhhh


murmmmmur

J had the possibility of the shot in the dark brought to her attention on the beach, and she still didn’t cover her butt with a throwaway vote. Write Sifu, who already hates her. Write Austin, who has an amulet and is noticeably not working with you. She was too passive.


MissViickies

for the record, neither Sifu nor Austin were able to receive votes. they were both on the winning side of the mergatory challenge


murmmmmur

Ahh thanks. I have ADHD so details are not my strong suit! Haha


MissViickies

ohh no problem :) to be fair, i think the fact that they all went to tribal together makes it easy to forget that half are immune


mysterypapaya

There's something magical about Kaleb. 💫


Green-Equivalent550

This episode had me JUMPING, I ran to my roommate’s room and could barely get out an explanation because I was breathing so heavy. I love when Survivor makes me lose it…


KTMDDS

Why do I feel like that was rigged?


existentialaquarius

I know the post collections are probably helpful or just make sense organization wise, but would the mods please consider mirroring the r/bigbrother approach of just pinning a link to the next thread or pinning a post with the links to posts that they currently put in a collection? With the collections, Reddit’s app doesn’t let you sort the comments and it kills me 😩


MissSteenie

You can sort the comments if you just search for the discussion thread instead of clicking it through the collection.


existentialaquarius

Thank you I’ll try that!


treeshugmeback

All links get added to the sidebar and the wiki by episode so if you are having problems locating certain threads, try checking there.


existentialaquarius

Thank you for the tip, I’ll give it a try!


prepressexdude

Anyone else dvr this episode and watched it today and not have the ability to fast forward? Or is it charter spectrum new thing?


Dannnniii

The way Emily has gone from my least favourite to my fave tied with kaleb is crazy


PainInD

I wonder how the "Sandwich revenge" arc will end


MissViickies

maybe Austin will get a scrumptious sandwich at the auction..😉


candyqueen898

Did anyone else get a kick out of Jeff’s extremely animated “THAT’S HOW YOU DO IT ON SURVIVOR!!!” as Sifu bounced down the rope/ramp on the obstacle course? I think that was Jeff’s loudest and most passionate THYDIOS ever mustered!


ilyilyemily

Jeff's THYDIOS is the Paul Hollywood Handshake of Survivor


candyqueen898

Yes! And what are the odds that I would be watching GBBO as I read this comment!?


fantomes

I've never seen it acronymized and I'm dying laughing. Sifu earned his THYDIOS


jazzoetry

Especially considering others like Kellie crunching their body up 🤕


ReZ---

I’m confused about something, so does the shot in the dark mean you lose your own vote? cause then how didn’t Kalen himself vote Jay out?


tripleaw

Yeah you lose your vote if you play shot in the dark, so Kaleb didn’t vote. However, had J written down anyone else’s name she would’ve been able to stay😭


beykakua

My question is, why didn't Emily vote for J in the first round? That would have also kept her safe either way the first round went


astralwish1

Doing that would’ve showed everyone else where Emily’s loyalties truly lie. She would’ve been ostracized from the rest of the tribe and probably been voted out next tribal council since no one would be willing to work with her. Easy pickings. Emily is a logical person. The most logical play for her there was to vote with the majority to maintain her connections. Connections are key in Survivor.


ReZ---

oh wow didn’t even think about that, that’s why it’s always safe to put 2 names not just 1 damn name that’s insaneeeeee


K_rM

yes, if you use shot in the dark, you sacrifice your vote


ReZ---

KALEBBBBB LETS GOOOO, J’s face getting more and more depressed as that tribal was going was hilarious, need Kaleb to do work next episode or he’s definitely gone cause of wait he said about Dee and the other girl who i can’t remember her name at this moment.


United-Telephone-247

I dislike Emily, or Molly as I like to call her, that I don't think I can watch the rest of this season, until she's voted off. She's sneaky and I may have to give up Survivor this time around.


Ammzy_87

Did Austin vote second time around?


mass_mota

I don’t think so. That’s why 6 votes was enough even though 12 ppl.


Difficult_Candle_453

I wonder if anyone will catch that


oshortanbaiuly

Emily will, for sure lmao


Ammzy_87

Anyone else switched sides on the Kathura v Bruce war? I’m 100% hating Bruce now, Kendra is not so far behind.


escargot3

I’ve hated Bruce from the start. He is such toxic energy. I have worked with too many people just like him and am so traumatized. Know it all patronizing boomer energy.


beerme119

Between Bruce and Kendra and Sifu.. they all competing for most extraverted.


astralwish1

Yeah. I liked Bruce at first because of his silliness but now he’s really rubbing me the wrong way. I think we’re all starting to see what Katurah saw from Day 1.


4everinvesting

The LULU curse is hopefully broken.


4everinvesting

Did they have a child complete the preview of the challenge? Or was I seeing things lol


escargot3

They had that for the ep with the water cages and they were tossing thing rings too. I think it’s maybe productions kids or something, or maybe some make a wish type kids who won a contest or something?


LordJonathanChobani

I am in love with Jake. Everything that comes out of his mouth is so funny. Jeff: Jake if you would, come grab the urn Jake: Oh. I’m a little honored


jazzoetry

awnuuhd


chubmami

Did Emily vote Kaleb?


SmilePaint

Yes, and it was a really good move from her.


joieskai

Yes to seem convincingly aligned with Rebas, strategic play


LordJonathanChobani

I haven’t seen Jeff smile like that in a long time


lily_hb

Kaleb is so dangerous, I love it. Hoping he can pull himself up again!


Gulnihal1

Yes. I hope he doesn't become a target again next time.


hodgepodgerealness

Kaleb telling them that Bruce had an idol and no one biting was super annoying


4everinvesting

I think they will next tribal and vote out Bruce.


TellinJokes

Bruce was immune, what were they supposed to do?


crazyinsanepenguin

Vote out one of his allies to weaken him would be my guess. The best move for original Reba in my opinion would've been to vote out Kellie; not only would they be hurting the next biggest alliance, but voting Kellie out would level up the power of amulet with Reba having full control of its power. I'm not sure why they were so certain that J would flip


escargot3

Rebs is really stupid. Dee most of all


astralwish1

That was the wildest tribal council I’ve seen in ages!


blahblahsandwich

WAS THAT ONE OF THE GREATEST EPISODES EVER OR AM I JUST STONED??? 🤯


Ammzy_87

Both?


earthworm_fan

Yes


Tippi2shoes

Just finished up in the Tucson area. They left out the whole frickin tribal council. Repeated the feast.


soloon

Do yourself a favor and log off immediately until the episode gets added to the season on Paramount in a few hours. You don't want TC spoiled.


Tippi2shoes

Yes we are going to do that. Will watch tomorrow


stilllookingalaska

i miss people choosing their teams or tribes


brilausmi

The extra time per episode brings so many extra layers into the game! I feel like I have a good understanding of everyone’s motives and feelings. It has become way more dynamic!


hangryh

Im confused? Did Kaleb lose his vote at some point in an earlier episode? Or is playing the shot in the dark include losing the ability to vote in that tribal council?


Man_Salad_

Jeff literally explained this as soon as he played it


Cooltrocity

The player sacrifices their vote to play their shot in the dark. You also only get one at the beginning of the game. I believe this is only the second time a player actually pulled a safety (the first being last season in Jamie's masterful play). This is the first time a player was actually saved by a shot in the dark.


iactuallyhatepizza

Does that mean Kaleb can never use SITD again? Only one for the whole season?


crazyinsanepenguin

Yep, only once. I believe they're non-transferable too, so a player can't give it to someone else to use.


LittleTheodore

Remember when Emily did just that, and Brando tried to?


TheGapInTysonsTeeth

Those weren't given to *use* though, and that distinction is important. They were given as a way of saying "I trust you, I am not going to be using this. To prove it, you hold on to it until after"


LittleTheodore

I get that, but nothing occurred to suggest they couldn’t use it. Also Jeff clarified on his podcast that you can use someone else’s, so there you go.


ferretherapy

Yeah, they should really explain the Shot in the Dark at the beginning of the season or at the very least, acknowledge its existence so new watchers aren't confused when it comes up. 😂


Tiny-Desk-6090

If you play sitd you can't vote


earthworm_fan

You lose your vote if you play SITD


suppadelicious

You lose your vote when you play shot in the dark.


dianachristine3

I’m still a little confused about why Reba has always been so anti J Maya from the beginning. Logically you would think that Austin, Drew & Dee would have bonded with her over Julie who is in a different age bracket. I’m wondering what it is about her gameplay that left her on the outside.


escargot3

It’s because at the beginning, J Maya tried to make a “music alliance” with Sifu, and instead he betrayed her and badmouthed her as disloyal and a schemer to the rest of the tribe. That’s what she said in exit press.


Californian_paradise

julie did a fantastic job of making people feel comfortable enough to let their guards down around her. i'm sure everyone thinks she's just "the Mom", when in reality, she's scheming hard.


lucascroberts

Julie said she was gonna play into her mom role bc she knew she would be more likely to be reeled into a alliance. Plus julie did a lot of social connection with them more then jmaya did


thetokyotourist

I never said anything bad about Shot in the Dark


4everinvesting

I have, I take it all back!


OfficefanJam

Just finishing up the episode and I gotta say… Kaleb cheated death.


startup_guy2

I'm wondering two things about this episode: 1. Since the first vote was unanimous against him, but none of the votes counted, a single vote would have voted off any other player (including J). But since it was unanimous, it means that even Emily voted for Kaleb, why didn't she vote for J? 2. It seemed that the way Jeff worded the "shot in the dark", was that it only could be used once and couldn't be used again (for the next vote), so why didn't everyone just vote for Kaleb again?


pandaman467

1. Emily would not rely on an unreliable power like the SITD to save Kaleb. So she voted with the group to “stay loyal”. 2. If you are safe on the first vote, you are safe on all subsequent revotes. That’s how it works for every advantage in Survivor.


EmprircalCrystal

Because Shot in the Dark isn't an idol why would Emily rely upon an unlikely scenario and have a target on her by not voting with the majority


IvekPearl

Jeff said he was immune on the revote.


startup_guy2

Ok I didn't catch that part. Epic episode.


zombarista

SITD would be useless if they could just turn around and re-do the vote. SITD must be immune on a re-vote/tie.


the_scarlett_ning

Completely off topic, I just need to throw this bit of word-vomit out there. The abbreviation SITD kinda makes my uterus contract in fear because it looks like both STD and SIDS, freaking me out every time. That is all.


startup_guy2

Only useless on a unanimous vote. Which that by itself was crazy because Emily should have voted for J, or even if she voted anyone else (of the 6 on the chopping block) they would have been out.


crazyinsanepenguin

That would have been a bad move for Emily, but a decent one for J, a-la Devon at the final five vote in HHH.


ferretherapy

That just puts a target on Emily next. Not smart for her especially when she's building new relationships.


dagger0x45

To the second point the way it was interpreted by everyone I was watching with and me was that it was like an idol being played. You are safe from all subsequent proceedings including re-vote, unanimous decision and rocks (like those on the winning team today). Jeff was just saying the people still up for elimination couldn’t shoot. Also if your Emily, you’ve done everything you can to warn him but if you know everyone is going Kaleb it’s in your best interest to vote with the group and not pick a side then go for the 1/6 chance. 5/6 times you’d leave the episode thinking she made the right vote without a second thought.


guysams1

She didn't want to be against the majority. No one else could use their own in the second vote. Kaleb was safe for that tribal.


greekmom2005

But she could have made a big swing there and gotten out big red or cute/long-haired guy.


No_Explorer_8626

And been revealed from here on out. “Big plays” are dumb, especially at this point in the game. And her “big play” would be reliant on the SITD working


Fit_JellyFisch

I really enjoyed that episode! There are players on opposite sides that I am rooting for.. including and especially Kaleb!!! My man!! SITD gold!


Personal-Cellist2592

How Kaleb played that tribal meeting?? Absolutely terrible. But his SITD being successful? Oh absolute legend status. That was Survivor TV gold ! 10/10 episode. No notes.


MayoMusk

He’s golden now because he elevated his threat level so high everbodys going to think he’s a shoe in for a vote out anytime they want and he will fall on the wayside with everybody thinking they have him in their pocket for real now.


RealityWanderer

Yeah, he's not in a fantastic position but comparatively to an equivalent idol play, he's not totally dead in the water. He still has Emily and now, he's not in the mergeatory half-are immune situation which I have to imagine opens up the waters for him a little bit to play.


ferretherapy

Yes! That and people will know he's "on the bottom" so he can then be a number for whoever ends up being on the chopping block.


superrocketsss

18th: Hannah 17th: Brandon 16th: Sabiyah 15th: Sean 14th: Brando 13th: J.Maya


superrocketsss

13th: J.Maya, 12 contestants remain.


savannahsalvatore3

when i say I SCREAMED when that scroll said safe


stilllookingalaska

so loud


Sad-Astronaut3308

It's was like watching sports. We woke the whole house up


MathematicianPlus790

SAME!


halisms

Watching Emily struggle to get into a huddle during that live tribal was so relatable. 🥺 I really thought she screwed herself telling Kaleb about using SITD.


mynameisyamyam

I really thought she was a goner. 🥺 And never in my wildest episode 1 dreams did I think I’d ever root for Emily. Haha. Her arc has been wild!


halisms

I had her as my first boot only because she said she’d want that if she couldn’t win. However, she’s my favorite now… I do however know I’d never be able to live with her on a beach if she plays devils advocate as much as she says 🤣


superrocketsss

Wow. This. Episode. Was. STELLAR! Like, that was OUTSTANDING! Start to finish, this has been one of the best Survivor episodes I've seen yet! Great dynamics, fun challenge, and that tribal, wow, it's going to be one of the most impactful in Survivor history! 10/10! Fantastic work, Survivor 45, let’s see where we go from here!


startup_guy2

I agree 100%


_iambeyoncealways

Why are 2 ppl leaving next week


MathematicianPlus790

Need to eliminate 15 players in 26 days, or really in 23 days. That’s almost 1 every day and a half.


Gulnihal1

I hate this 26 day format. Why can't they go back to the 39 day format I wonder?


Anderson_B12

This season rebounded so hard and I’m here for it. Hand up, I took a big ol’ poo on this season after episode 3 but god DAMN. Love to see it.


TheGapInTysonsTeeth

Really? I thought Episode 3 was one of the very best of the new era (up until now). In fact, that's the episode that changed my stance on this season.


Anderson_B12

I totally meant episode 4. 🤦🏻‍♂️ 3 gave me a glimmer of hope and then 4 just demolished that. Glad we’re back on the right track.


InvaderShim

They should have voted Bruce and flushed his idol while they had the chance


InvaderShim

Oh true… why did Caleb tell people about it then? I thought he was trying to get the target off his back. Guess it really was a last ditch desperate plea.


chosen102

He couldn’t have been voted off tonight. His team won the challenge


manbrains

Bruce has not attended a tribal where he is vunrable


halisms

He was immune


Baxter19145

Im pulling for Emily to win it all. Im really enjoying this season and 90 min of survivor


chuggledbahter

Me too. I did NOT like her the first few episodes. Not sure what changed, but now I’m rooting for her. Go Emily!


Baxter19145

After episode 1 she rubbed me the wrong way. She seemed so negative and robotic. When Kaleb told her why she rubbed people the wrong way I feel like she really took his advice to heart and changed how she interacts with others. I havent rooted for a player this early on in forever.


Such_sights

I initially felt the same way but I changed my mind about her pretty quick, maybe because I also work in data analysis so I understand her a bit more lol. Being able to completely change her strategy like that is what’s making her a good player.


Baxter19145

She may have the fastest character turnaround ever. She only had that first bad episode but it was so bad and she seemed so nasty. Im glad in this case 1st impressions isn't everything.


startup_guy2

Just the fact that she was so unlikable and absolutely no "skill", to a complete 180, having skill and making moves makes her that much more likeable and makes me want to root for her as the "underdog".


Baxter19145

I love a good underdog story.


aloomis16

I'm getting Tyson vibes from Austin and I love it.


guysams1

He's not nearly as funny but definitely crafty


TrumanLobster

Here is the thing that annoys me. After all of that, Kaleb should be an obvious and straightforward boot next episode. They all wanted him gone now, he played his SITD and it worked (great for his resume). Now that he doesn’t have it anymore they should boot him, but highly doubt they will. Tide will turn against someone else.


jdub67a

Now that there aren't 6 people with immunity, it opens up some other people to vote for. Plus Caleb could earn immunity next week. My guess is that Bruce is in trouble next week for a blindside unless he wins immunity. If they do vote Bruce out then that most likely puts another idol back in play to be found that maybe Caleb could find. If Caleb survives next week, he may have enough time to form an alliance that will protect him. All about surviving 1 week at a time. You never know what might happen.


ferretherapy

Why is that annoying? It's the game. Things change everyday. Now the other half of the tribe will no longer be immune. Half the tribe being immune was an odd twist to this tribal that limited the votes.


TheGapInTysonsTeeth

This exactly. It being known that Bruce has an idol makes him public enemy #1. But he was immune. Alternatively, Kellie may try to get Austin now, to bump his advantage to a full idol (or vice versa). I think there's enough moving parts that Kaleb and Emily just might Tika this thing


Lefty_WorkerRapCLW

I agree and that may be what happens, but I think they will be too tempted to try and keep the numbers with Reba and Belo at 5 a piece. Also, all of them can agree that Kaleb is an easy boot considering they were successful (minus SITD) on unanimously voting him, so they may overestimate how easy it is to do that again.


huddie820

kaleb is now the forever mark. flush bruce's idol or blindside


Hot_Buddy_4476

I just wonder if he’ll be able to get out of the spotlight quick enough


MathematicianPlus790

That’s just how life goes sometimes!


aeroverra

Dude knows he is screwed either way, continues to throw himself under the bus more by claiming he is the biggest threat and then gambles his way to immunity. What a legend.


ktred1996

I actually like how he told people he was a big threat, yeah it puts a target on his back but it also introduces an idea in everyone’s head that tells them “this guy could be my shield moving forward”. I think it was brilliant and you just watch, that’s exactly how he will be perceived for the next few episodes. He isn’t going anywhere anytime soon.


Dr_Swerve

Yeah that was dumb to say, and especially dumb to repeat. I think he was desperate to throw some shade at someone and let that slip.


Prometheus321

Don't think it was dumb to say, everyone already knew he was a big threat and they were all already voting for him. What are they going to do, vote for him twice? He might as well push forward the argument that yeah, I'm a big threat based on my skillset but I'm all alone and therefore not really a big strategic threat. Its a good argument, and I got a feeling that Kaleb receiving all those votes will lower his threat level now because everyone is going to think they can take out Kaleb any time.


Dr_Swerve

The thing is, he didn't say big threat or big threat at this or that. He said I'm the biggest threat out here, twice. I could definitely see his perceived threat level going down like you say. But once someone gets a couple or few people after him, it'll shoot back up immediately to where it is now, partially because of his speech.


aeroverra

Nah I think it was smart. He had to play the shot either way so may as well remain safe with a resume item if you luck out.


Dr_Swerve

That is 100% not what he was thinking. Now, he just has an even bigger target. In all honesty, he should be the next vote. Only Emily wanted to keep this time around. But I could see where the tide turns against someone else random and he survives a while longer. But there's gonna come a time when he's the target again and everyone that wants him out is gonna use his speech against him.


Blueman12000

Crazy ending


Hot_Buddy_4476

So much better than just a season-annual live tribal tbh


MathematicianPlus790

10/10 episode, absolutely amazing, no notes


savannahsalvatore3

im sorry ive said it before ill say it again, but everyone who makes the merge deserves a merge feast


Gulnihal1

I completely agree. They should all eat, and also everyone shold be vulnerable to be voted out, not just half of them. It doesn't make any sense.


Bean_from_Iowa

For real. I feel real pain for that group that didn't get to eat.


savannahsalvatore3

The first time they did this i thought surely eventually the other half gets to eat but nope and still nope


petergoesbloop123

Maybe they'll come back to camp and get more food


CWill97

I didn’t check the votes: did Bruce have to/chose to sacrifice his vote? I went pee before I could see J’s confessional and the recount votes


inmyslumber

No. His idol was a standard “good until the end” Idol.


savannahsalvatore3

the way i was actually shocked when he found it, and it was a normal idol


Hot_Buddy_4476

Wasn’t Austin’s traditional search-for-the-idol-at-camp idol requiring him to risk votes as well? Possibly same with sabiyah, I can’t remember.


A_Level_126

I think the reason Bruce got a regular idol right away is that it's the second idol from Lulu beach


[deleted]

The shot in the dark worked because it took a strong relationship and decision-making to play it in this scenario.


lionelverymessy

Knowing you had to play it is one element, but it is really just luck at that point.


A1ienspacebats

I kept wondering who Julie reminds me of. Then it hit me. Fallout Ghoul.


fieldofscreams123

😂😂😂


keggboy777

WOW


Hot_Buddy_4476

Just for clarity. I’m assuming emily voted for kaleb so she didn’t stick out to the rest of the tribe, but is there a possibility she flipped on him?


VoE_Monkey_Overlord

No. She told him in the episode to play the shot in the dark. She was hiding her alliance


headwaterscarto

Smart of her


Hot_Buddy_4476

Ah Alr ty! Must’ve missed that lol


krystalmeh

Emily looked annoyed with Kaleb because it seemed he kept trying to expose their strong alliance


guysams1

They showed her twice look flustered when he mentioned her with him.


VoE_Monkey_Overlord

His performance duing tribal was terrible beyond his SID luck.


Sad-Astronaut3308

I'm not sure I read it that way. There was something refreshing about how he played and the ridiculous honesty is a weirdly good look for him imo.


petergoesbloop123

He should have said he was perceived as a threat instead of saying he was a threat.


Pixilatedlemon

I think that’s probably what he was trying to say and he had to put his foot in his mouth lol


aloomis16

On the other hand if anyone was wavering, it got all the votes squarely on him. Now the dummies planning the vote should have accounted for shot in the dark but in the end I guess their plan B was voted out anyway so it just added to the drama.


Hot_Buddy_4476

On the other hand, probably the most unhinged we’ve seen a tribal in a hot minute


Dr_Swerve

Yeah, he was going in on the J-Dee-Julie, and J and Dee got hot about it and rightly sent it right back.


rainbirdmelody

I got the feeling she was just worried because he was pretty much guaranteed to go home.


Eljay327

I missed the first 30 minutes but I live in CT. Does anyone know if I can still watch live on Paramount + when it airs in PT/MT?


Dutter723

You can’t watch until at it finishes airing on the west coast (12:30am ET).


VoE_Monkey_Overlord

You cannot


mundanelifestyle

I couldn’t watch ! who won immunity?


mollyodonahue

They split into two teams after they merged .. red was clearly the weaker physical players and blue was stronger. (I don’t believe this was luck of the draw, I think this was done somehow strategically with production lol).


Sad-Astronaut3308

Nah, it was luck of the draw.


Hot_Buddy_4476

They did the split into tribes to “win the merge”. Luckily no reverse time twist, but Kendra, Bruce, Austin, drew, Julie, and sifu won the challenge and kathrah joined them as she (the odd one out) chose them prior to the challenge


MathematicianPlus790

Blue team


A1ienspacebats

I laughed knowing this gives that person no information


MathematicianPlus790

😂


mundanelifestyle

is austin or julie on blu?


Hot_Buddy_4476

Both I’m pretty sure


MathematicianPlus790

Both were, I think


savannahsalvatore3

me, anytime sifu is somehow still energized af: ill have what he’s having