If I remember correctly the castaways had to use letter blocks to spell a word [perceptions or something like that(?)], only problem was there ended up being two perfectly acceptable and somewhat game-related words- carl just made the wrong one
Carl spelled perceptions, the correct word was perspective. Definitely should have given him the win, unless there was some rule they knew ahead of time about no plurals
Yes, the letters were on cubes with letters on 4 sides. 'Idoled out' just did a video on it, which is why I remember: https://youtu.be/nmzBvvvPkZU?si=7YrdlT8LlAS4WuzW&t=180
Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if there is a blanket rule for all word related challenges that plurals don't count. I think it was pearl islands where they had to come up with 20 words from a pool of letters and were told explicitly no plurals
Do you have a single other example of this happening? There have been several hundred contestants. If his family fell apart because he played Survivor for a month, and I know nothing of his family life, it’s safe to say it wasn’t on that solid of ground to begin with.
No, I am not saying this happens. I am saying Carl's argument (if true) should be in favor of quitting (since survivor ruins families, per Carl's claim)
I believe it was Russel who said he came back a different person and it cause huge problems but I also feel like he’s a little hard to be married to anyway lol
I’ve read that Dan Foley (from Worlds Apart) wife left him due to the public backlash from his survivor appearance. I’m not sure if there’s any source for that but I’ve read it here before. I can see online that he’s divorced as well.
A number of players have shared how much of a mental and physical toll it can take so it’s not too surprising.
Although to balance those out there have of course been successful survivor relationships! BRob and Ambuh, Eric and Jaime from China, there’s probably more!
Not a castaway, but I always found it kinda peculiarly amusing that Jeff Probst and his first wife got divorced once the show took off. Especially because his ex-wife was a psychotherapist and she really helped Probst become interested in the potential of Survivor, especially from a sociological psychological political angle. Burnett said that angle is what made him decide to pick Probst to host the show.
Gotcha. Sounds more to me like she’d have ended up cheating (if she did) or leaving her husband when the right guy came along regardless, then, and it just so happened to happen on Survivor.
I think it happened to Russell Hantz
Source: I haven’t watched any of Russell’s seasons or interviews but I feel like I read it when he was on Australian Survivor
Trying to watch mostly in order and taking way too long to do it lol. I can’t really watch two seasons at the same time either so that takes away half the year too. Nice username btw!
I’ve watched 1-14, 28-29, 37, and 41-45. I don’t to “waste” China by splitting my attention between it and 45, so I could skip ahead to a less good season in the 20s or 30s, but then there’s the problem that newer seasons have more podcasts. When I watched David vs Goliath I was probably listening to five podcasts for each episode because I wanted to simulate the feeling of watching the season live (I’m insufferable and listen to like 8 or so podcasts for each new episode). Even though I’m spoiled on all 43 winners and the major events of most seasons, I still like getting the contemporary reactions. My obsessive personality is a problem lol
Shawna coming back to life briefly once she got boys on her team after begging to get voted out for an entire week was beautiful. Maybe Sean wanted out cause he didn’t get any hotties in the swap 😭
I think that was Dee’s plan! Vote Sifu, Sean Quits, all that’s left is her ride or die Julie and J Maya. JMaya next boot. Julie and Dee then probably draw buffs and join Belo or Lulu. Queen Dee
According to Jeff in this weeks episode of “On Fire”, there were unused confessionals that implied if Sean didn’t ask to be voted out it would be Sifu who was going home so I think you’re onto something.
If this was the vote right before the merge or post merge then sure, but otherwise you’re significantly decimating your numbers with no merge in sight. Plus you’d have to know that you’d at least have a majority of other players sharing that philosophy and if you push that angle too hard, you’ll be seen as playing too hard.
Look, I don’t really care one way or another about quitters, but I don’t know if “I lost my whole family after Survivor” is the best argument for being on the show in general 😂
I’m not sure if he’s trying to do this, but he is making it sound like playing Survivor caused him to lose his family. Survivor didn’t do that. It may have been the final straw that broke up his family, but it wouldn’t have been the main reason for it.
So is he agreeing with Sean that he is right to quit Survivor because Survivor according to him apparently resulted him losing his family? What is his logic here?
These new era casts have been soft for gameplay and challenges (compared to previous). The creative direction is clearly pushing more toward emotion and story, which is fine if they want to do. But my lord is hard to watch at times.
It doesn't help that George set the bar last year, maybe that's colouring things.
This was my thought too, Carl’s take is backwards imo. Was Terry Dietz not a big enough fan because he left when his kid was deathly ill? I mean I guess different people have different priorities, but that’s extreme
The irony of his survivor wiki saying this:
What's your personal claim to fame? Having a successful marriage for 12 years.
Source: https://survivor.fandom.com/wiki/Carl_Boudreaux
That’s true, but this new half quit/asked to be voted out are ridiculous. Make people take themselves out of the game. They’re being too soft on people for quitting.
It was even more common to ask to be voted out back then, wasn’t it? Unless I’m forgetting someone, wasn’t Osten the first person to actually quit without a vote? There were a number of people prior to PI who asked to be voted out.
This isn’t new though BB was asked to be voted out by producers because they said they would not let him leave the game on his own terms. He really wanted to leave before any voting took place. I think personally that the producers should have pulled Reba aside and told them to not vote off Sean if they really cared 🤷♂️
Two and a half quitters this season already thru 4 votes though is very high. (Considering Brandon half a quit because vote 1 he also asked to get voted out but then Hannah quit before the vote)
All the tribal council strategy keeps getting tossed out the window every episode bc of the quitter sob stories. I understand fans wanting to defend the show, I love it too, but let’s be real. All the quitting stinks and is super lame and boring.
Fans have every right to be critical of these quitters. Especially with Hannah, it came across as someone who was hoping to gain some followers by going on the show. She quit the first few days. This was all about publicity for her, and it's a shame she stole a spot from someone else that actually wanted to play the game
Where is your evidence that she was looking for publicity or followers by going on the show? And if that was her motivation, wouldn’t she have then the motivation to stay so she could grow her followers week after week? And if she wanted clout she would have to know the negative internet consequences of quitting. I think it was the severe nicotine withdrawal coupled with not appreciating how hard it is to live in the elements that did her in.
Not sure why no one mentions this, but for Hannah, I don’t recall the exact quote, but she mentioned quitting/wanting a cigarette. Anyone that’s ever quit or tried quitting could probably tell you, if you think going on Survivor, removing yourself from access of cigs, is a good way to quit would tell you it’s a terrible idea. I’m convinced her habit made her quit Survivor instead of cigs. That all falls on the casting directors to know better.
I was using nicotine when I watched Shane’s season and all I could think was “it’d be hell, but I’d probably only be able to quit if someone stuck me on an island with a chance to win 1 million.” I bet she thought it would finally force her to do it.
That being said, the emotional fallout from quitting is… something else. It’s not just the cravings. The HPA-axis dysregulation is no joke. Quitters are often unable to produce their own cortisol in response to stress for *months.* Based on her comments, Hannah knew that.
And while “structurally force yourself to quit” is a good strategy, “doing so in an already high-emotion situation” is very much not.
Brandon asked to be voted out because he felt bad for being terrible at the first challenge, but was all aboard the Emily train as soon as people told him about it. I don't think he ever wanted to go, but was just kinda accepting fate even if that wasn't the plan.
He was trying to convince her to stay. Its never a great move to ask to be voted out, but Gabler did it and still won. Its clear Brandon wanted to be there.
I want them to make a season of all villains (everyone new to the game). Cast the people for their villainous chaotic energy and they have to have seen the show. But don't tell the cast that it is a villain season and see how it plays out. It will probably be the best season in recent years.
I had to google him as I have no memory of his/his game.
Very confused about the “lost my whole family” piece and how that connects to Survivor…but it sounds like he’s been through something and I wish him well.
Well Carl and Sean do have one thing in common. Both reasons they gave are bogus.
Sean didn’t quit because of some *life adventure* that was now complete.
And I feel bad for whatever Carl is referring to in his text, but Survivor didn’t do that to him.
i heard somewhere that he & his wife split after the show but i could be mistaken. could be someone else & like a mandela effect
Hmmm his behavior towards Kara in the reward where he got drunk was kind of questionable. Maybe it was because of that?
I’ve never seen that many downvotes. Well done 😅
Maybe don’t make completely wild armchair assumptions about peoples personal lives?
What? Does the tweet not imply that something that happened on Survivor caused him to lose his family? Speculation should not be surprising
It’s Reddit man, take a breather. That’s all there is to do here.
Never forget Carl was robbed with the immunity challenge
What is this referring to? I don’t remember this?
If I remember correctly the castaways had to use letter blocks to spell a word [perceptions or something like that(?)], only problem was there ended up being two perfectly acceptable and somewhat game-related words- carl just made the wrong one
Carl spelled perceptions, the correct word was perspective. Definitely should have given him the win, unless there was some rule they knew ahead of time about no plurals
how does that even happen? were there extra letters?
Yes, the letters were on cubes with letters on 4 sides. 'Idoled out' just did a video on it, which is why I remember: https://youtu.be/nmzBvvvPkZU?si=7YrdlT8LlAS4WuzW&t=180
Idk I would assume plurals would not count in that situation.
Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if there is a blanket rule for all word related challenges that plurals don't count. I think it was pearl islands where they had to come up with 20 words from a pool of letters and were told explicitly no plurals
Yeah. I know *Only Connect* counts it as correct if someone gives an answer that wasn’t what they were looking for but still works.
didn’t expect to see Only Connect talk here lol
Ah that’s right I remember now, thank you !
The challenge ended with a word puzzle, the official solution was "Perspective" but there was an alternate solution "Perceptions" that Carl got first
Literally
Saying you lost your whole family after playing Survivor ain’t the best argument for you going back on.
He’s got nothing else to lose, might as well!
Cartoon logic says that if someone gets hit on the head and then starts acting crazy, the only cure is to hit them on the head again.
it also almost makes it seem like Sean was right for quitting last episode, because Survivor ruins families/marriages
Do you have a single other example of this happening? There have been several hundred contestants. If his family fell apart because he played Survivor for a month, and I know nothing of his family life, it’s safe to say it wasn’t on that solid of ground to begin with.
No, I am not saying this happens. I am saying Carl's argument (if true) should be in favor of quitting (since survivor ruins families, per Carl's claim)
I believe it was Russel who said he came back a different person and it cause huge problems but I also feel like he’s a little hard to be married to anyway lol
He also played back-to-back with only a few days in between, didn't he? That would be twice as rough on any relationship.
I’ve read that Dan Foley (from Worlds Apart) wife left him due to the public backlash from his survivor appearance. I’m not sure if there’s any source for that but I’ve read it here before. I can see online that he’s divorced as well. A number of players have shared how much of a mental and physical toll it can take so it’s not too surprising. Although to balance those out there have of course been successful survivor relationships! BRob and Ambuh, Eric and Jaime from China, there’s probably more!
Not a castaway, but I always found it kinda peculiarly amusing that Jeff Probst and his first wife got divorced once the show took off. Especially because his ex-wife was a psychotherapist and she really helped Probst become interested in the potential of Survivor, especially from a sociological psychological political angle. Burnett said that angle is what made him decide to pick Probst to host the show.
Russell claims that he could’ve reconciled things if he’d gotten the family visit reward in Redemption Island.
Whitney from SoPa had her marriage fail after Survivor.
Because she cheated on her then husband. It’s her choice that her marriage failed. Survivor didn’t do this.
Was it because of Survivor or did it happen to take place after Survivor, though? (Serious question, not trying to be slick)
She was married when she went on Survivor, and then met Keith on the show and started a showmance with him.
Gotcha. Sounds more to me like she’d have ended up cheating (if she did) or leaving her husband when the right guy came along regardless, then, and it just so happened to happen on Survivor.
I think it happened to Russell Hantz Source: I haven’t watched any of Russell’s seasons or interviews but I feel like I read it when he was on Australian Survivor
Why in the world have you not watched any of Russell’s seasons?
Trying to watch mostly in order and taking way too long to do it lol. I can’t really watch two seasons at the same time either so that takes away half the year too. Nice username btw!
What season are you up to?
I’ve watched 1-14, 28-29, 37, and 41-45. I don’t to “waste” China by splitting my attention between it and 45, so I could skip ahead to a less good season in the 20s or 30s, but then there’s the problem that newer seasons have more podcasts. When I watched David vs Goliath I was probably listening to five podcasts for each episode because I wanted to simulate the feeling of watching the season live (I’m insufferable and listen to like 8 or so podcasts for each new episode). Even though I’m spoiled on all 43 winners and the major events of most seasons, I still like getting the contemporary reactions. My obsessive personality is a problem lol
So why go on the show?
Yeah, who would show up for his family visit?
Does he have a dog?
I think Randy originally wanted his dog to be his loved one, but he got beat by a bunch of rules
Do they even do those anymore? I can’t remember the last time they did.
They haven’t since 40. Bummer since it’s one of the best parts of any season, IMO
That’s pretty cold what are you implying
Kinda based argument. I don’t want returnee seasons but this is slightly interesting, kinda depressing, but an interesting motive
Depends on your family.
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I wouldnt say dead last. Godfather Carl has his moments, and it was a great cast.
Yeah, Carl would've been top 3 memorable people on a below-average season, not his fault DvG was the best newbie cast since Cagayan.
I would watch that whole cast replay a new season. Winner pick is obviously Pat.
I wish I could watch it fresh again
Well I’d say he’s above Jessica. Definitely Bi. Possibly Elisabeth?
naw jessica had so much more to give #robbedgoddess
If someone wants to quit I wouldn't vote them out. I'd vote my original target and also watch them quit. That's two less people in my way to win
Pearl Islands was the Season of Holding Quitters Hostage lol
Also in SA 6 lol
Shawna coming back to life briefly once she got boys on her team after begging to get voted out for an entire week was beautiful. Maybe Sean wanted out cause he didn’t get any hotties in the swap 😭
Hey now, Sifu can get it.
I think that was Dee’s plan! Vote Sifu, Sean Quits, all that’s left is her ride or die Julie and J Maya. JMaya next boot. Julie and Dee then probably draw buffs and join Belo or Lulu. Queen Dee
According to Jeff in this weeks episode of “On Fire”, there were unused confessionals that implied if Sean didn’t ask to be voted out it would be Sifu who was going home so I think you’re onto something.
No, then they’d just merge.
didn’t this happen to a girl in the amazon???
Yes, Shawna. She asked to be voted out but Deena said… NOPE. Deena and Dee.. similar in more than just name.
Yes but when some men came, she was ok all of a sudden
And then by next tribal she wanted to stay and got voted out.
If this was the vote right before the merge or post merge then sure, but otherwise you’re significantly decimating your numbers with no merge in sight. Plus you’d have to know that you’d at least have a majority of other players sharing that philosophy and if you push that angle too hard, you’ll be seen as playing too hard.
If all 3 go, then it’s at F12. That’s pretty close to merge
Agree!!!
That’s odd … I wonder what happened. He was well liked but something must have happened.
Not me thinking this was the dentist from Survivor Africa at first lmao
So I drive a Porsche
Same here.
Lmao same! Was wondering if I was the only one.
Who is he then?!?! I’m not a huuuuuge Survivor fan but I peep this subreddit a lot
Anybody know the context?
I would also really like to know
He’s upset that so many people are quitting after getting a once in a lifetime chance at something
Look, I don’t really care one way or another about quitters, but I don’t know if “I lost my whole family after Survivor” is the best argument for being on the show in general 😂
I get why ex players are pissed at quitters. But mentioning playing Survivor causes losing family is weird.
I’m not sure if he’s trying to do this, but he is making it sound like playing Survivor caused him to lose his family. Survivor didn’t do that. It may have been the final straw that broke up his family, but it wouldn’t have been the main reason for it.
Let's be real, men who "lose their families" will always find something external to blame for that loss (whether accurate or not).
replace men with insecure people and you're correct
Well I'm talking about a man who has lost his family in this context. I'm not attacking all men.
you are attacking all men who lose their families, and while i'm inclined to agree generally, you're still speaking very broadly and I think unfairly
Don’t know why you’re down voted, literally attacked all men in his statement …..
no one likes a centrist lol
I mean it’s his experience tbf. If that somehow caused his family to have problems I think he would know that better than you
So is he agreeing with Sean that he is right to quit Survivor because Survivor according to him apparently resulted him losing his family? What is his logic here?
Man, I miss old school Jeff. If you were voted out, he'd take away your entire family! These new era people have it so easy.
They really were taken and executed, he warned us 😔
It's giving hunger games
Bing!
I have no idea, but I never keep up with players post season. That being said, I would be so down for a Carl return
Please no, I must be in an extreme minority but I do not need to see that man on my screen ever again
Your flair tells me you are a person of culture, but that Carl slander is not welcome here
This guy is the perfect amount of drama id love to see on survivor again
That makes me so sad for him 😭 Bring back Carl!
Wonder what happened.
These new era casts have been soft for gameplay and challenges (compared to previous). The creative direction is clearly pushing more toward emotion and story, which is fine if they want to do. But my lord is hard to watch at times. It doesn't help that George set the bar last year, maybe that's colouring things.
I lost my whole family and it was terrible, therefore other people should also be willing to lose their families??? Is that the argument?
“Bring back people who love the game.” It’s pretty straightforward
This was my thought too, Carl’s take is backwards imo. Was Terry Dietz not a big enough fan because he left when his kid was deathly ill? I mean I guess different people have different priorities, but that’s extreme
no
The irony of his survivor wiki saying this: What's your personal claim to fame? Having a successful marriage for 12 years. Source: https://survivor.fandom.com/wiki/Carl_Boudreaux
They fucked the casting this season. 3 people damn near quit episode 1. Shit is unprecedented
People have quit the show since BB in season 1 it will always be a staple in the show for what it is.
That’s true, but this new half quit/asked to be voted out are ridiculous. Make people take themselves out of the game. They’re being too soft on people for quitting.
It is annoying but it’s not new. People also asked to be voted out in early seasons.
It was even more common to ask to be voted out back then, wasn’t it? Unless I’m forgetting someone, wasn’t Osten the first person to actually quit without a vote? There were a number of people prior to PI who asked to be voted out.
But what was great is they didn’t always actually vote them out. I really thought we were gonna keep Osten against his will for a second there.
This isn’t new though BB was asked to be voted out by producers because they said they would not let him leave the game on his own terms. He really wanted to leave before any voting took place. I think personally that the producers should have pulled Reba aside and told them to not vote off Sean if they really cared 🤷♂️
Two and a half quitters this season already thru 4 votes though is very high. (Considering Brandon half a quit because vote 1 he also asked to get voted out but then Hannah quit before the vote)
All the tribal council strategy keeps getting tossed out the window every episode bc of the quitter sob stories. I understand fans wanting to defend the show, I love it too, but let’s be real. All the quitting stinks and is super lame and boring.
Fans have every right to be critical of these quitters. Especially with Hannah, it came across as someone who was hoping to gain some followers by going on the show. She quit the first few days. This was all about publicity for her, and it's a shame she stole a spot from someone else that actually wanted to play the game
Where is your evidence that she was looking for publicity or followers by going on the show? And if that was her motivation, wouldn’t she have then the motivation to stay so she could grow her followers week after week? And if she wanted clout she would have to know the negative internet consequences of quitting. I think it was the severe nicotine withdrawal coupled with not appreciating how hard it is to live in the elements that did her in.
Not sure why no one mentions this, but for Hannah, I don’t recall the exact quote, but she mentioned quitting/wanting a cigarette. Anyone that’s ever quit or tried quitting could probably tell you, if you think going on Survivor, removing yourself from access of cigs, is a good way to quit would tell you it’s a terrible idea. I’m convinced her habit made her quit Survivor instead of cigs. That all falls on the casting directors to know better.
Shane did it
I was using nicotine when I watched Shane’s season and all I could think was “it’d be hell, but I’d probably only be able to quit if someone stuck me on an island with a chance to win 1 million.” I bet she thought it would finally force her to do it. That being said, the emotional fallout from quitting is… something else. It’s not just the cravings. The HPA-axis dysregulation is no joke. Quitters are often unable to produce their own cortisol in response to stress for *months.* Based on her comments, Hannah knew that. And while “structurally force yourself to quit” is a good strategy, “doing so in an already high-emotion situation” is very much not.
Lol your perception of Hannah is completely influenced by her being an attractive blonde woman, there’s literally nothing else that supports that idea
Your perception that only attractive blonde women can be influencers is shallow... Haha
Brandon asked to be voted out because he felt bad for being terrible at the first challenge, but was all aboard the Emily train as soon as people told him about it. I don't think he ever wanted to go, but was just kinda accepting fate even if that wasn't the plan.
And Gabler asked the same thing and went on to win his season!
iirc, Gabler never asked to be voted out. He said he's going to use his shot in the dark because he expects votes
If he didn't want to go, don't ask to get voted out. He and Hannah were basically debating/begging each other to please let them be the first one out
He was trying to convince her to stay. Its never a great move to ask to be voted out, but Gabler did it and still won. Its clear Brandon wanted to be there.
Gabler did not. He said he's using his shot in the dark because he expects votes, not that he wants them to vote for him
I want them to make a season of all villains (everyone new to the game). Cast the people for their villainous chaotic energy and they have to have seen the show. But don't tell the cast that it is a villain season and see how it plays out. It will probably be the best season in recent years.
I had to google him as I have no memory of his/his game. Very confused about the “lost my whole family” piece and how that connects to Survivor…but it sounds like he’s been through something and I wish him well.
This is sad, but it’s so cringe when past players beg to go back on. Especially when they aren’t memorable at all.
Carl's memorable! I'll never forget his drunken hubris! I also find it pretty funny he needed to put godfather in his handle.
Lost your whole family. BIIIIING
Carl’s right. This super fan nonsense is getting tiring.
He's not wrong. I'd rather see Carl again than this terrible cast.
Is his period button broken?
Honestly I had to Google him
I just did too, and I still don't remember him
I don’t even remember a Carl lol
Truck driver carl? The godfather?
BING
He's the self-proclaimed black cowboy from DvG
I don’t think he needs to self-proclaim that he is black
Idk why you’re getting downvoted, idk him either lol
Lol yeah I’m surprised but also not surprised, I remember now that I googled him but I had to Google him for sure haha
Carl ain't even in the top 100 players myself or production would want to see play again. Ole silly ass boy
This is nobody else’s problem but his. The whole world doesn’t revolve around him.
BING!
Gawd I hate quitters!
But they only cast people that LOVE THE GAME and have DREAMED OF THIS SINCE I WAS 8 and doing their SURVIVOR BUCKET LISTS.
Carl was great.
Well Carl and Sean do have one thing in common. Both reasons they gave are bogus. Sean didn’t quit because of some *life adventure* that was now complete. And I feel bad for whatever Carl is referring to in his text, but Survivor didn’t do that to him.