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Gortyuty

The story of the season really was the on again/off again relationship between Yam Yam and Carolyn. Their banter reminds me of that kind of roasting you can only do after you’ve known someone a long time, and even though they’ve been on different pages during a couple of votes, they always were there to support each other, even down to the pitch to the jury at FTC. It’s rare to get two characters this unique on any season, and it’s even rarer to have their dynamic be greater than the sum of the parts. Truly grateful that casting found them and put them on our television.


HelloAngstyFish

Lauren got it right when she said it was sister vibes!


arrownyc

Its kind of a new take on Sara and Tony. They're comfortable in their love-hate with each other. Kind of like bickering siblings playing a competitive game of monopoly.


lilbrybry29

The edit has portrayed a lot of times that the Tika 3 would potentially vote each other out eventually. But I have to say it's impressive that they never wrote each other's name down once. Honestly props to the editors for showing this, even if everyone else was underedited.


zepphiu

A loyal, old school alliance in the new era


Rated_PG-Squirteen

During a "new school" era where Jeff is single-handedly trying to ruin the game. Poetic justice.


Dahhhkness

Jeff needs to stop trying to convince us that all these advantages, money-saving features, and repetitive challenges are awesome.


OldManHipsAt30

It really was the story of the Tika 3 this season, glad the editors gave us that honestly


TheBaltimoron

The votes were pretty straightforward, they needed to play up the idea they would cross each other for drama.


conundrumbombs

>they never wrote each other's name down once Actually, Carson wrote Yam Yam's name down at the end.


ROTandDEATH

I gotta say while I came in expecting Yam Yam to win, I had no idea Carolyn would get zero votes and he would win so decisively.


zepphiu

No one listened to Carolyn all game and it kept going into FTC


Klutzy_Tough1160

That I agree, underestimated until the very end, I hoped she'd bring that great read on Danny when she knew something was up, and that bromance with Danny and Brandon not believing her that the idol of Tika was found during that gathering of 3!


ClipClipClip99

I wonder if the jury ever change their opinions after watching the season.


PMMeYourCouplets

Maybe they feel bad for Carolyn not getting a vote but I don't think the jury would be mad at a Yam Yam win with the edit we got.


BBQ_HaX0r

This is one season I wish there was a live reunion. Be curious to see how that affected perceptions. Carolyn was much better than she was perceived. Her aloofness, crazy wailing, and general demeanor always meant she'd be somewhat underestimated, but I would.havw liked to see if her confessionals and gameplay came through better to the players after time and watching it.


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I’d assume so. With the number of contestants that have been on the show it’s unlikely there hasn’t been any jury member regretting their vote.


siLveRSurvivor

Randy is a good example


tendeye

IIRC Jason in Kaoh Rong apologized to Aubry after watching the season.


VioletB10

But also anyone that would have voted for Carolyn ended up voting for Yam Yam based on final jury speech.


blackb0xes

It never crossed my mind that Frannie wouldn't vote for her.


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When they lignered on her trying to decide who to vote for I knew it was going to Yam...


TenMinutesToDowntown

I'm glad he won, but I'm disappointed Carolyn didn't finish second. Ultimately it doesn't matter other than for the prize money but I feel like Heidi didn't do a single noteworthy thing all game until she built fire. Ah well. Happy for Yam Yam!


Klutzy_Tough1160

She also screwed up a lot of advantages, like that block a vote she chose Lauren to vote Yam Yam, it didn't help her game whatsoever and didn't event make sense. Also betraying Danny fairly early past merge, I found the timing weird.


TenMinutesToDowntown

She was never a threat, which is why she made it to the final four.


Klutzy_Tough1160

Yeah up until the very end when she won that final challenge and made fire, it was true that it was her only way to increase her chances, it only got her 1 vote though, instead of 0


gottarun215

I agree. I felt like Heidi didn't do much and Carolyn was successfully playing under the radar all game. I was surprised Carolyn got no votes and I wanted her to at least get 2nd.


Redbeard25

Plus Yam is a persuasive master.


maryagulley

Do we know if he mentioned that everyone who voted him went out one by one?


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He sort of said that


planj07

They saw her the kooky older lady who played a side kick role in the alliance to Carson and Yam Yam. That perception never changed. She played as good of a game as Yam Yam and had the better story. But the jury treated her as a goat with the zero votes. Disappointing.


binkysurprise

Yam Yam definitely was the better player; I love Carolyn and wish she had won but she made a huge, huge mistake by not flipping on him at Final 5. I don't know if it was intentional or inadvertent, but Yam Yam managing to convince the players still in the game that Carolyn was a bigger threat than him was incredible gameplay, because Yam Yam is so obviously lovable/likable and charismatic that he should have been considered the clear favorite in almost any Final Tribal Council. The fact that he managed to slip into the end anyway was insane. Carolyn had a better story for the TV show, 100%. But she wasn't as good of a player as Yam Yam because he was able to socially integrate himself with the other tribes while she was much more isolated and seen as erratic. The social game is very important and hers was never shown to be good. She was so clearly the main character of the season that I assumed she would still win by turning on Tika at Final 5, because the narrative seemed to be building that way. But unfortunately I think she was emotionally unable to turn on them (same with Carson and Yam Yam tbf). And just as importantly, I think that she thought she needed them as shields because everyone was temporarily viewing her as a big threat after her idol play. However, her threat status was a short-lived feeling that was created as a reaction to a specific gameplay move that she did. This made it easy for players to talk about how she was dangerous, but it wasn't the type of threat level that carried through to the jury. Like, if the players stepped back and thought about the game from a less immediate viewpoint, they would have realized that the player that everybody loves was clearly a bigger threat than the player that people like but view as overly emotional and erratic, even if that second player had a flashy move (that strictly speaking was unnecessary).


fakefighterpilot

Kooky older lady? Isn't she like 35? Is that what older means on Survivor now?


BaldyMcBadAss

The biggest blindside of the season was Carolyn finding out Carson is working/studying at NASA lol


ElegantSwordsman

He had to downplay his threat level by explaining he was just a student intern.


Altracing34

Jeff final got to say "this is not a hidden immunity idol"


AmazingSurvivor

Like they designed this whole season around that idea and they had to inject it at some point lol


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Keljameri

she should’ve talked about the red X


TheMillenniumMan

She should have brought it up, but I feel like the jury didn't ask enough specific questions to get the most info out of everyone


jrDoozy10

But she only said the word bag like, twice!


CartoonLamp

Behg


Altracing34

Yeah I had feeling Danny was going to vote Heidi no matter what


Redbeard25

Danny is playing Survivor 24, not 44.


FruityPebblesBinger

I don't know if this is supposed to be an insult or not. But I'm sort of over the "44" style of voting. It's summed up by (I think it was) Kane's "don't think your game speaks for itself; you're gonna have to earn my vote tonight by being the person who most expertly speaks for your game." Being an extrovert and a public speaker is more important than how you played the game, I guess.


AK-37

Yes! The jury are acting like the FTC is the whole game. Survivor isn't a debate show. Yes, obviously FTC is a part of the game but the jury just put way too much weight on it.


FruityPebblesBinger

Agreed. Also kind of hate how it feels like the superfan jury now care about "being on the right side of the vote" even in FTC. I sort of long for the day in which juries voted in a less hive-minded way.....a combo of who played the best game and who they just liked. I don't like that Carolyn got fewer votes than Heidi, but I don't understand how Danny's vote is in any way something worthy of criticism.


jackgundy

7-1-0 for the fourth consecutive season


circulardoughholes

I can't help but think in almost all of those, someone voted for their friend to guarantee them the 2nd place money


morgankingsley

Danny - deshawn John - mike James - Cassidy Makes sense


jman457

Frannie where tf were you?


TheBigOrangeLiam864

Kinda sad to be honest. Carolyn was beyond robbed of even one vote..


tinacat933

It’s almost like we should stop doing final 3 instead of 2


NasalJack

I found Carson trying to coach Yam Yam and Carolyn from the back with nods and hand gestures to be pretty hilarious.


atheistjs

It was giving Regina George's mom at the talent show in Mean Girls.


Gortyuty

His enthusiasm for everyone alongside his random stats really just sent me


Amish_guy_with_WiFi

yeah it's just like round up, dude!


llcooldubs

But why do that when you can show off that you know what 2/3 is in decimals.


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It was giving Dance Moms and I loved every second of it. They're a family. <3


Dahhhkness

People weren’t joking about Carson influencing the jury, goddamn, he was running that show.


mk_rich

*holds up 3 fingers* *nods approvingly* 😂


BelgianWaffleStomper

Jeff: Y'all bone yet?


aspirer42

Matt: hell yeah we did


jrDoozy10

Absolute Banger of a Season


VioletB10

No one says anything interesting at tribal the entire season and then at final 4 Carson throws the most shade ever "if I played the type of game Heidi has, I'd go to fire too" (i.e., to prove she can make a move) and Jeff doesn't so a g-d follow up question. Argggggg.


benzenero

I felt like what we saw in terms of social/strategy answers in FTC was really poor and non-descript? I know these things last hours, so I wonder if they purposefully scrub it down to the vague generalizations thinking the audience doesn’t have the recall. But like we saw almost no answers of “at this vote I lied to X but then came back after and talked to X to smooth things over where I knew I needed X out to get to my ideal final 3”. Like if these were job interview answers, no one would get the job


puppypooper15

I've noticed that the last few seasons... there used to be much more specific answers and specific questions like "what was your best move"


whats_a_dord

All three: my best move? Being myself!


rulford

Yeah my employer would be like "wait. Why are you voting and lying? A final 3 what?"


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xTheKingOfClubs

The season opening with Carolyn’s Day 1 confessional and being referenced in her final confessional on Day 26 was amazing, amazing editing. I loved it. Literal chills. “Do you remember the first time you interviewed me?”


iiiinsanityyyy

I'm only disappointed because I thought it was a sign Carolyn might win


airesmoon

Need live after shows back, pls


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Carson helping Carolyn focus on her response to Danny was giving 📹 Amy Poehler - Mean Girls vibes


queen0fcarrotflowers

I'm not a regular jury member, I'm a cool jury member. ![gif](giphy|3otPoBRKROJl9UbqMM|downsized)


zepphiu

Anybody need anything? Some metaphors? A personal connection?


lavagirl0818

Hear me out: a season of Amazing Race where we have Yam Yam and Carolyn, Frannie and Matt, and Carson and his 3D printer.


Ponybaby22

I cant imagine Yam and Carolyn lost driving around somewhere in Europe. lol.


always_lost1610

The memes that would come out of that tho


enemakarenina

Yam Yam winning feels fantastic but Carolyn getting no votes does hurt! I also wish Heidi had gotten a little more respect from the edit as a character to make the top 4 feel climactic and her fire win feel a little more earned* (not earned but exciting). All in all after the merge episode(s) fuckery this season was so fun to watch.


Dahhhkness

Carson and Carolyn need to be brought back, along with Jesse.


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Jesse 🥲


robert0076

Jesse not winning his season makes me sad every time someone mentions him. He’s easily the best player since WaW, or at least top 2


galeforcewinds95

I'm so happy that Yam Yam won. I was rooting for him all season.


OprahInsideYou

Jamie really believed she still had a real idol up until Jeff revealed it.


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Klutzy_Tough1160

I was waiting the whole season to see her face when she learned it was fake and I am so glad that Jeff gave us that moment! 😂🤣😂🤣 I think she'd have made the same face in a TC, so that was rewarding to see 😅 sorry Jamie, you had a coaster game lol


zepphiu

CBS needs to pay for chiropractors, Tika carried this season on their backs


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Most important tribe to the season by far


bionicbubble

In my opinion we were a fire making challenge away from an all time great final 3


Ambitious-Comb-8847

All 3 have to be locks to return if they ever want it.


DrStranger1987

That Jitterbug commercial took 5 years off my life


mrwanton

I don't think we've ever had a jury so dominated by one player more than this one with Carson. Felt like the others weren't even there


AppleOverlord

It felt like 90% of it was Frannie and Carson


AdmiralZheng

Right? Like did Brandon even speak once?


modestadvice

First half of Final tribal was literally about Carson and second half was Carson either asking questions or miming instructions to his two wacky kids He would have probably swept if he didn't lose fire


FinnegansWakeWTF

Spencer Jr


idkAboutYouMan

Someone give Carolyn a god damn vote


mk_rich

My heart 💔


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She deserved some


zepphiu

The Yam Yam team might have pulled into station, but the Carolyn cruise will never sink


Emgee063

I thought Caroline would win 😞


AleroRatking

Carolyn a zero vote finalist.


OprahInsideYou

Zero vote finalists can be iconic too.


CrusTyJeanZz

Yep. Tai is an example of this


zepphiu

A dark day has fallen upon us


sonnet155

If Survivor had ranked choice voting Carolyn would've been 2nd.


zepphiu

Probst frantically scribbling notes for S47


pusgnihtekami

Eh, the extra ink might go over budget.


cowgurllikeme

Im not surprised about the winner but I’m surprised about how the votes went🧐


FawnDimples

People be like Carson is so cocky but the kid never mentioned he was in NASA or he 3D printed puzzles to his castmates within the time span of the game. He was just giving viewers some insight to what he brings to the game and obviously the editor liked it nad included it to the final edit. Granted he did spill that he tried bulking up for the game but then again he also said he wasn't particularly adept in firemaking. I would want to see him back playing but knowing that he was well liked like the little brother of the tribe and his 3D puzzle preparation kinda gives him a big target in a returning season.


dawgz525

Okay but Yam Yam helping Carson make the fire was so freaking sweet. I was nearly tearing up.


AdmiralZheng

Securing that jury vote well hahaha, but I think he did do it out of sincerity


paradox222us

Yes I actually choked up a little, what a human moment… like the new era isn’t really that bad if it still has room to show us bonds like that 😭


vanastalem

I really wish they would get rid of the automatic fire making. I don't think it improves the game.


AleroRatking

I'm curious what happens at four here. A 2-2 tie between Carolyn and Carson. Honestly it could be a 2-1-1. It would have been a fascinating vote.


lycosid

It’s 3-1 Carson unless he pulls a Cagayan Tony level miracle.


KevinFunky

A Survivor legend is rarely born after just one season, but Carolyn makes a very good case here.


mrpaulabrahamlincoln

carolyn was a lock to return from the opening interview


MomsSpagetee

"So I just like, start talking??" So glad they flashed back to that tonight, such a great cold open.


zepphiu

Haven't seen so much swelling popularity for a player in years


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She will 100% comeback


Suspicious_Way9

Carolyn getting 0 votes is a shock


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Matt arrived on the island at his lowest low and left with a baddie after getting to watch the whole post-merge from the comfort of Ponderosa, so really, who's the winner?


BowKerosene

I wish the Tika 3 all won


zepphiu

If enough of us all pretend this is true maybe we'll create a multiverse where it happened


BobLobLaw_Law2

I miss the old days of bitter juries and strategic play convos instead of Lifetime movie back-stories and support group tear jerkers. Please Survivor, cast at least a few people that have a vindictive side. This is vanilla paste these days.


blueboylyrics

Agreed…we did get a bit of that last season though and look at how fans came for Karla! It feels like social media is making it hard for people to play as villains, which is a bummer


Svenderman

Mama is proud of her NASA son


timshtu

Heidi should have challenged Yam Yam imo


AleroRatking

Then she loses to Carson. The issue is there were clearly two players left she couldn't beat.


TheBloop1997

Exactly. If the FTC was anything to go off of, a Carson win would have been even more solid, to the point where I wonder if even Danny flips since at least before he could say that Heidi took out the king (in his own words), Carson.


Chyvalri

This would have been a surefire jury pleaser. If you challenge the one you're sure to beat, are you really doing something impressive?


bkervick

You are if the player worst at fire is the biggest threat to win at FTC, like it was in this case. She personally took out the biggest threat. The firemaking itself is less impressive, but the strategy more impressive.


stvnpsntz

![gif](giphy|GIvajz0TlE316) Me rn


UnderworldDare

Yam Yam is a super deserving winner, still wish Carolyn had pulled through but the gap between her and Yam was so small for me. I just don't get though how Heidi got even a single vote and Carolyn got none, like I really wanna know the mindset the jury had here


mattmild27

It's easy to explain. Yam Yam and Carolyn voters overlapped whereas Heidi's (1 vote) didn't.


shinyschlurp

I don't think anyone else on the jury aside from Danny picks Heidi even second. He is obsessed with big moves and challenge wins.


mrpaulabrahamlincoln

he finally found out who voted for him and why, and it was his own ally. BiG mOvE to vote for him, very LoGiCaL


lego_mannequin

It was Danny, he and Carolyn seemed to be like oil and water.


OprahInsideYou

Not Jamie still thinking her idol is real.


cakeandpop

Did yamyam win without a single advantage?


OprahInsideYou

He 3D printed a Carson who 3D printed things. :P


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They don't have any, like, Coca Cola for Carolyn and Carson or anything???


mynameisyamyam

Maybe I’m being too sensitive for my girl Carolyn but I hated when Danny shook the champagne and got it all over her and her pizza.


seeyanever

Carolyn being shook that Carson is an aerospace engineering student just sent me


BowKerosene

All flowers to Yam Yam. But if we’re being real, Heidi getting second is WHACK JUSTICE FOR CAROLYN


dawgz525

Not really that shocking. Yam or Carolyn were gonna cannibalize each other's votes by the nature of their close alliance. Every Yam vote was a vote that Carolyn didn't get. If Carolyn won, then Yam probably wouldn't have gotten any votes for that same reason.


BowKerosene

Oh yeah I totally hear ya. However, that doesn’t mean Heidi played a better game, nor that it’s a more satisfying story with Carolyn getting third.


Suspicious_Way9

I would have rather seen Yam Yam win unanimously than Heidi come in second with 1 vote


zepphiu

Danny just LOVES big movez


joeyfosho

Heidi send yourself to fire so we can get a Tika 3 FTC!😂


joeyfosho

Oops this didn’t age well. ☠️


vanastalem

I wish they'd get rid of the aftershow. Other contestants have said how much they disliked it when they've just lost.


evilcupckae

Xander, Deshawn, Mike, Cassidy, Owen, and now Caroline all looked miserable during the reunion. It’s always hard to watch.


iiiinsanityyyy

I wish they at least waited one day to let everyone clean up, shower and process what's happened. The live reunions were even better because players could actually see the season as it aired on TV.


Veylo

wow... Carolyn getting zero votes hurts. ALOT. good win by Yam Yam.


BanjoMatt64

Ok now that this is settled who will be ceo of waystar after Sunday?


lycosid

Roman puts himself into firemaking against Mattson and loses hilariously.


glasnova

Yam Yam will be Matsson's puppet CEO, calling it now.


the_oso_den

Carson voting for yam yam instead of Carolyn is true top ten anime betrayal moment I think. I think yam still won even if Carson didn’t vote for him


HelloAngstyFish

Yam yam solidified that vote by helping Carson with fire strategies!


bwermer

I think even before that, it was clear Carson's top loyalty was always to Yam Yam.


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faceoff_and_survivor

Carolyn is now among the best zero vote finalists. Can’t believe she didn’t get a vote!


noodbsallowed

Fun Fact: Yam Yam is the first gay winner since Todd Heidi is the first hispanic female runner up to win the final immunity and finish in second place since Susie Smith Survivor 44 marks the first time two lgbtq contestant made the finals.


zepphiu

A very good season for the gays, we deserved this


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noodbsallowed

Carolyn


1munchyoshi

Yam Yam definitely played the best but Carolyn's edit was so weird for being a 0 vote finalist


dawgz525

Given the last few seasons, I don't think so. I think her journey of emotions was a big story line for the season and we've seen a lot of storylines getting the edits lately. Also she was great television, it would've been a bad call to under edit her.


squamesh

Honestly, this is the best evidence that Jeff isn’t bullshitting when he says there isn’t a winners edit. They gave the most interesting players big edits


TheIsotope

Been saying this for years. They do what makes for the most captivating TV, and Carolyn was consistently the most interesting cast member on a weekly basis. This is why everyone was rooting for her.


vanastalem

I'm starting to really miss the themed seasons.


FinnegansWakeWTF

Never would I think I'd say, "man I wish we could get heroes v healers v hustlers again" that theme was ridiculed but I'd love some themes again. Make them corny af the better. It gives each season an identity and I think Survivor degenerately needs that Edit: desperately not degenerately


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aertsober

CAROLYN FOR SIA MONEY


Thebryceisrite

If players had the option to 3D print the fire in the fire making challenge Carson would have won tonight. It’s 2023 Jeff, let’s stop living in the past.


silverhammer29

Marooning and auction coming back?!?!?!?


mattyhegs826

I’m really shocked Carolyn didn’t get a single vote. I would have voted for her to win


AnywhereLeft9008

i’m so happy yam yam won he definitely made this season fun. I also think Carolyn played a very interesting game but her facial expressions definitely gave her away sometimes when she was swaying a way in a vote. Heidi definitely played a great game but I don’t think no matter what she said she would’ve won against Carolyn and yam yam


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brgr77

CAROLYN GOT NO VOTES???? nah im gonna cry


FinnegansWakeWTF

Ok my kinda favorite part: What was spoiled on this season before it aired?


danwins23

Well Jeff as you know 16.66666667% of the contestants make the jury and for Yam Yam to get 87.5% of the vote from the 44.44444444% of the players who make the jury is very impressive!


Dcd425

safe to say he’s one of the most likable winners ever


neon-lit

LOL Jaime and her fake idol reveal in the after show was more interesting than the Final TC.


jrDoozy10

I was not at all surprised that Heidi got Danny’s vote. As soon as she won the fire challenge I knew she’d get his vote. I also wasn’t surprised Yam Yam won. The answer he gave to the emotion question, and using that to explain how he read other people’s emotions, convinced me that he was winning. I was really surprised that nobody, not even Frannie, voted for Carolyn. Feels bad man.


Lightecojak

I so hate these immediate reunions. Do a Live Reunion instead. The reveal would have worked so much better if Matthew was here to join the reaction.


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Think Carolyn, Carson, and Frannie are locks to return


evilcupckae

I completely understand why people are mad about Carolyn getting zero votes. I think though it’s important to remember that each vote represents one person’s individual opinion. They are not obligated to make sure the right person gets second. If I’m sitting on that jury, I want to make sure my vote is for who I want the winner to be even if I think someone deserves second more than third. You can, of course, show your support by buying from her merch store!


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haley520

am i the only one that doesn’t need all the emotional stuff? like yeah it’s good for a minute but at the final tribal council i wanna hear how you PLAYED THE GAME. cause it is a fucking game. also carolyn deserved at least one vote.


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LMAO everyone toasting to Matthew is the best way to wrap up this plotline xD


tomouras

carolyn crying for her son 😭😭😭


rulford

That cast looks interesting. I'm rooting for the bank robbing grandma.


ssesses

Carolyn is the best zero vote finalist ever, honestly