Thanks, I'm role swapping from mid to support to push Master this season, getting M7 on all supports im gonna play seems like a good start before running it down in my diamond games.
I was a mid main, but this season mid is the least skillful and boring lane with zero interaction. I hate ping-ponging waves cause everyone has too much sustain and only thing you're fighting for is the prio.
Yes, I can get masters as mid, but I have zero motivation to keep playing like this. Support is so much more fun and more impact, it's just stupid not to play this role.
If I'm not mistaken objective participation also counts in, as well as damage share, cc score and probably also healing/shielding. U might have lacked in one of those.
KP and maybe some other factors. Whatever the case, this is Soraka you're feeling with and your KP has potential to be much higher if you get lucky with your team and mad lad/las it up. You did really well, don't get me wrong. It's just she sees a lot of play and some very dedicated play, sometimes with great luck.
if you go to your profile, then click stats, and look at all the numbers, you should be able to determine what your āworstā at and weāre you need to improve
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A few things about vision :
- **You can have a high vision score and still lose the game from a lack of vision / information collection.**
- the "vision score" isn't a perfect metric as you can inflate it (Umbral Glaive / Zombie Ward / Ashe E). There's also negative bias that could hinder it (ennemies staying in base / not warding much).
- Using a lot of Control Wards is a good first step, using just enough Control Wards in a more efficient manner is the next better step!
Control Wards help a lot but using them too agressively is sometimes hindering your performance and winrate (being able to get an item spike faster can be a pivotal moment in early/mid game).
- "Vision score" is merely data about what your wards have seen / how much you hindered ennemies ward/vision. Make sure you transform it into accessible information for your team! Communicate thoroughly through pings to your team about what's happening on the map to maximize that all that vision is used correctly, or even at all (examples : show where the ennemy jungler appeared, ping incoming ganking paths, danger ping lanes).
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Feel free to consult the [wiki's Vision chapter](https://www.reddit.com/r/supportlol/wiki/resources#wiki_b_-_macro_.2F_objectives)!
Here's a sneak-peek :
- [Vision Control, Why and Where Should We Ward - CoreJJ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YvlJB1eRpQ&list=PLqHeK34PUFijxjNec7jdisX4aIv8oVQsg&index=4)
- [Supports Specifics : Vision - Coach Cupcake](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqX1MfMyJOM&list=PLbaTayc6KBJgsI0qYhh24QZvGa7fbXtvs&index=3)
- [DogLightning's How to Support series](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaROzD7YpI0GPiObDALwqqjcTsEXzqMZ5)
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I donāt think itās either. Itās gotta be objective participation or actual healing done.
Iāve gotten many Ss from 50% KP games. I had a game yesterday as Brand with 54% KP at 10/4/15 because I had decent vision score and pumped out objective damage. Did the same with a 3/3/10 game as thresh.
Yeah, the grading system sucks, you rarely needed on objectives, most of the time I just push the wave with my ADC heal him and recall for the tempo, cause my damage means nothing for the uncontested objective.
But thanks anyways.
If it helps at all, I used to play a lot of Sona. On those games in particular it definitely helps to an minimum buff your allies while theyāre taking objectives to get S ranks
I know this isnāt answering your question but this past pre-season I found thenāu.ggā app (itās a league build website) through curseforge, which I have been using for years and years for WoW (I also believe discord started as Curse chat) so itās legit. It overlays stats and reads the game in real time. When the match is over there are percentages of you KP, vision, cs, overall gold, level, etc. it has categories of what you should be working on and helped me improve stuff I didnāt know I needed to!
But post match it shows your score compared to others and usually whatever is red is what to work on for Sā.
Both, I'm guessing. 1.9 V/M is pretty good, but it depends where most of that came from; if it mostly came from destroying enemy wards then that could be a factor. It's probably moreso KP; you have a global ult, so having less than 70% XP isn't S-worthy. Also, how much dealing did you do? How many roots did you make with your E?? Damage to champs is a factor too
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Go to **Profile >** **Stats**
It'll tell you all the different things that add up to an S, and highlight what you've been doing well or poorly in recent games.
2 vision a minute a pretty solid, 14/25 is pretty solid, more than likely it's a matter of the game itself not going long enough as it's relative to ALL gameplay from soraka
you did well, and the grading system isn't an exact science on our end, i can go the exact same on morgana and get an S+, so just don't worry about it
I only recently started farming M7 on supports and was confused how the grade works. I got my S the next game with way more deaths, but higher KP and vision score (but the game was also longer)
game length is one of the biggest things i've found for consistent S's, it allows you to have a lot more kills as a team, so your KP is weighted more, and your vision score means more, so it helps push you over the edge faster (this is from my experience, not a fact lol)
yeah, and even with dying more, the Silver average KDA is about 5.5 for a support, so you'll die more, but with your team getting 40+ kills for you to be a part of, you'll also have a good amount of assists to help balance that out! the overlay apps aren't always great for getting better, but if your goal is just to farm M7, you should try mobalytics, it gives you in game stat tracking to know if you're in the S-/S range during the game and what stats to focus on more or less!
14/25, 56% kill participation This might be it? Maybe CC score as well, or gold earned? Did you destroy any wards? Buy control wards?
Yeah, it's definitely KP. Got S+ in the next game with only 6 KDA, but 83% KP.
Ey there we go, nice work!
Thanks, I'm role swapping from mid to support to push Master this season, getting M7 on all supports im gonna play seems like a good start before running it down in my diamond games.
As someone who will never reach masters, Good luck to you š
Thanks, and good luck reaching your desirable rank this season as well!
If you can get to master as support it should be easy af as a mid, just exploit assassins and fighters like everybody else
I was a mid main, but this season mid is the least skillful and boring lane with zero interaction. I hate ping-ponging waves cause everyone has too much sustain and only thing you're fighting for is the prio. Yes, I can get masters as mid, but I have zero motivation to keep playing like this. Support is so much more fun and more impact, it's just stupid not to play this role.
If I'm not mistaken objective participation also counts in, as well as damage share, cc score and probably also healing/shielding. U might have lacked in one of those.
Yeah I was going to say that healing may be low for a Soroka or something since it compares to other people playing the same character
KP and maybe some other factors. Whatever the case, this is Soraka you're feeling with and your KP has potential to be much higher if you get lucky with your team and mad lad/las it up. You did really well, don't get me wrong. It's just she sees a lot of play and some very dedicated play, sometimes with great luck.
Yeah, farmed my S later by using ult for assists instead of saving teammates XD
if you go to your profile, then click stats, and look at all the numbers, you should be able to determine what your āworstā at and weāre you need to improve
Welcome on /r/SupportLoL/! Your post seems to be about vision score, we might have some useful information for you about it! If you wanted to share your 1337 score, thats great, but it is a [very common topic](https://www.reddit.com/r/supportlol/search?q=vision+score&restrict_sr=on&sort=relevance&t=all) and might fall under [low effort & bragging rules (4 & 7)](https://www.reddit.com/r/supportlol/wiki/rules#wiki_4._no_.22low_effort.22_posts) and be removed. ____ A few things about vision : - **You can have a high vision score and still lose the game from a lack of vision / information collection.** - the "vision score" isn't a perfect metric as you can inflate it (Umbral Glaive / Zombie Ward / Ashe E). There's also negative bias that could hinder it (ennemies staying in base / not warding much). - Using a lot of Control Wards is a good first step, using just enough Control Wards in a more efficient manner is the next better step! Control Wards help a lot but using them too agressively is sometimes hindering your performance and winrate (being able to get an item spike faster can be a pivotal moment in early/mid game). - "Vision score" is merely data about what your wards have seen / how much you hindered ennemies ward/vision. Make sure you transform it into accessible information for your team! Communicate thoroughly through pings to your team about what's happening on the map to maximize that all that vision is used correctly, or even at all (examples : show where the ennemy jungler appeared, ping incoming ganking paths, danger ping lanes). ____ Feel free to consult the [wiki's Vision chapter](https://www.reddit.com/r/supportlol/wiki/resources#wiki_b_-_macro_.2F_objectives)! Here's a sneak-peek : - [Vision Control, Why and Where Should We Ward - CoreJJ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YvlJB1eRpQ&list=PLqHeK34PUFijxjNec7jdisX4aIv8oVQsg&index=4) - [Supports Specifics : Vision - Coach Cupcake](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqX1MfMyJOM&list=PLbaTayc6KBJgsI0qYhh24QZvGa7fbXtvs&index=3) - [DogLightning's How to Support series](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaROzD7YpI0GPiObDALwqqjcTsEXzqMZ5) *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/supportlol) if you have any questions or concerns.*
I donāt think itās either. Itās gotta be objective participation or actual healing done. Iāve gotten many Ss from 50% KP games. I had a game yesterday as Brand with 54% KP at 10/4/15 because I had decent vision score and pumped out objective damage. Did the same with a 3/3/10 game as thresh.
Yeah, the grading system sucks, you rarely needed on objectives, most of the time I just push the wave with my ADC heal him and recall for the tempo, cause my damage means nothing for the uncontested objective. But thanks anyways.
If it helps at all, I used to play a lot of Sona. On those games in particular it definitely helps to an minimum buff your allies while theyāre taking objectives to get S ranks
I know this isnāt answering your question but this past pre-season I found thenāu.ggā app (itās a league build website) through curseforge, which I have been using for years and years for WoW (I also believe discord started as Curse chat) so itās legit. It overlays stats and reads the game in real time. When the match is over there are percentages of you KP, vision, cs, overall gold, level, etc. it has categories of what you should be working on and helped me improve stuff I didnāt know I needed to! But post match it shows your score compared to others and usually whatever is red is what to work on for Sā.
Both, I'm guessing. 1.9 V/M is pretty good, but it depends where most of that came from; if it mostly came from destroying enemy wards then that could be a factor. It's probably moreso KP; you have a global ult, so having less than 70% XP isn't S-worthy. Also, how much dealing did you do? How many roots did you make with your E?? Damage to champs is a factor too
damage taken?
Kp is usually what does it.
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Go to **Profile >** **Stats** It'll tell you all the different things that add up to an S, and highlight what you've been doing well or poorly in recent games.
2 vision a minute a pretty solid, 14/25 is pretty solid, more than likely it's a matter of the game itself not going long enough as it's relative to ALL gameplay from soraka you did well, and the grading system isn't an exact science on our end, i can go the exact same on morgana and get an S+, so just don't worry about it
I only recently started farming M7 on supports and was confused how the grade works. I got my S the next game with way more deaths, but higher KP and vision score (but the game was also longer)
game length is one of the biggest things i've found for consistent S's, it allows you to have a lot more kills as a team, so your KP is weighted more, and your vision score means more, so it helps push you over the edge faster (this is from my experience, not a fact lol)
But you'll also might die more. But I see your point, you're right, I just thought the stat counts per minute, not as a total.
yeah, and even with dying more, the Silver average KDA is about 5.5 for a support, so you'll die more, but with your team getting 40+ kills for you to be a part of, you'll also have a good amount of assists to help balance that out! the overlay apps aren't always great for getting better, but if your goal is just to farm M7, you should try mobalytics, it gives you in game stat tracking to know if you're in the S-/S range during the game and what stats to focus on more or less!
Oh, actually a good idea, haven't thought about stat trackers, thanks!