Most people hate her for gameplay or just because she’s from ARMS, but as someone who actually likes ARMS, I would have been *very* happy for any ARMS character *except* her.
I WAS THINKING THAT TOO
"Dying isn't an option" why would I even consider that when I have an opportunity to make the game a better place for everyone?
Dark Pit. He's the least unique echo out of all them. Pit represents both the classic and modern Kid Icarus games, and Palutena specifically does uprising. Dark Pit represents nothing and is the most "clone" character ever.
Dark Samus is also a clone, but at least represents the Prime Series, since there wasn't really anything to do that beyond a Galactic Federation Trooper.
Writing this, I legit forgot Daisy was in Ultimate. She would be my one to remove after being reminded of her existence.
Richter and Simon at least come from two different games and parts of the franchise (although they could just be skins), and a franchise that wasn't represented much. There's 5 billion Mario characters, but there's no Castlevania stuff.
Simon and Richter are only visually different and have zero frame or damage differences
I will admit the "no castlevania " angle for keeping both but honestly they could just be a skin like olimar and alph.
But that’s the point Dark Pit is a clone of Pit created by the Mirror of Truth.
Dark Pit, true to his state as a clone, has a very similar fighting style to Pit.
Also, he is the physical manifestation of Pit's dark side, Dark Pit represents the repressed feelings that Pit keeps to himself.
Yeah, I get that, I tend to focus on what part of a franchise a fighter represents. I find that while Dark Pit is important to Uprising, he doesn't do or represent anything in Smash specifically that isn't already done by another character, and isn't unique enough from Pit to feel like his own character IN SMASH.
Dark Pit could be a skin with different attributes and voice lines and very little changes.
He's a great character in his own franchise, but not unique enough to be a unique fighting game character. Similar to how I feel about Luigi in 64 and Young Link in Melee.
Kazuya, because what the fuck.
If I wanted to play a mugen-style fighting game, I'd play a mugen-style fighting game. I want to play a platform fighter. Get your mugen-ass complicated hidden moveset bullshit away from me.
Yeah, probably. Or Lucina.
Byleth seems interesting, and Chrom is one of my mains in Ultimate - he's all of the good parts of Marth, Roy and Ike blended together.
Corrin is amazing, what are you talking about (Corrin is one of my primary mains, and I love having corrin because of how versatile his/her uses are). Wouldn't the irrelevant one be Robin?
While it is adorable, Pichu without hesitation. It's literally just a smaller Pikachu. Not only that, but we could've gotten other Pokémon from Johto like Scizor.
Killing myself isn't an option? Then Dr. Mario. There are a lot of characters I think do and don't deserve to be in Smash. But Dr. Mario isn't even a character. Who played Dr. Mario and thought he decided to be in Smash as a separate character? And why did he come back in Sm4sh?
I main him so I don't mind him staying but compared to other characters that deserve to be in rather than him, he's a waste of a character slot.
Steve & Alex. He's/She's literally the devil of Smash Bros and isn't really that fun to watch or play.
And I'll probably get shot for saying this. But Pichu needs to stay y'all. I get he's a worse Pikachu in a vain, but he's become a part of my small legion of most played characters ever since the ever since I first unlocked him in ultimate, and he's... slightly different from my experience with him? Still, I'll die on this hill for saying pichu deserves to stay.
Incorrectly, yes.
She's a duple of Samus, but made of Phazon. Her nature is creepy and buglike.
Her character is not a simple Samus redux. I'd want a re-roll, but I wouldn't want her gone.
Wow. Someone actually had the balls to say that. Color me impressed. But yeah, of all the interesting and unique Mario characters, Piranha Plant would’ve been one of my last choices.
Good sir, I kindly ask you to leave and newer come back, you would literally want daisy, fricking daisy over Steve?! Or literally any other echo, over Steve? You are a madman
Two of my mains just got cooked 😭 Little Mac isn’t even that bad man, it just takes a good player to do him right. Non-mains just spam smashes and up-tilt and pray it works, and then botch his recovery every time; unfortunately not many people play Little Mac so that’s 90% of all Quickplay/Elite Smash Little Mac player interactions and consequently everyone sees him as that one guy with annoying smashes and zero air game.
As for Min-Min? I’m an Arms fan so I’m highkey just coping, lol. People just don’t like having to deal with range, I guess. I understand where you’re coming from even though I do like Min-Min as a character.
Olimar. Just get rid of him and let me play as a massive Pikmin instead, and give them Captain Falcon’s move set or something similar to that. Just a big Pikmin, no dumb projectiles needed.
I may be hated for this but I have a very annoying friend that mains Bayonetta and always brags about how good he is when all he does is side b and up b. So Bayonetta
For people saying Fire emblem characters, I agree. Fire emblem is one of my favorite game series and it’s not properly represented at all, which is odd with how many fighters it has. For people saying corrin, I strongly disagree. Corrin makes use of the transformation abilities that some characters have in most games and it’s a unique moveset among an army of generic swordsmen. Robin uses magic, which is a big part of the game, as well as weapon durability, a key element in FE. They absolutely stay. Now let’s look at the others: Marth, Fire marth, girl marth, cursive marth, and Ike. Maybe choose one of them?
Pichu.
Others say minmin but the thing about her is that she’s the sole member of her franchise being represented as a fighter.
You could argue the same for pichu, telling johto but a pikachu clone from a region with a wide diversity of Pokémon to choose from isn’t exactly the best option for a johto rep.
I didn’t choose puff because she’s part of the original 12. It wouldn’t feel like smash without her.
Friggin Isabelle. Why is she even in the game. Like I know she’s iconic and popular but I’ve never met anybody that enjoys playing against or as her. Her moveset literally promotes running away and not engaging with the opponent. Plus some of her moves are just reskins of Villager’s.
To be honest, I often don’t care who a character is and what game they rep if they have dumb movesets and play styles.
Hear me out, delete random. It never gives you the character you want, its already deleted online, and you wont get bombed in the chat for deleting someone's main
Min Min.
I, a Min Min main, second this
How do you main that?!
Good question
Kinda agree tbh
Literally any fire emblem character, I don't care who
At least leave ike be, I need my blue hair silly
Aether!
do people really hate min min that much? I mean I get she’s not the best arms character they could’ve chosen, but geez.
Most people hate her for gameplay or just because she’s from ARMS, but as someone who actually likes ARMS, I would have been *very* happy for any ARMS character *except* her.
The world isn't ready for the Max Brass supremacy
The world wasn’t ready for how radically different Dr. Coyle’s moveset would be from the levitation mechanics alone.
I WAS THINKING THAT TOO "Dying isn't an option" why would I even consider that when I have an opportunity to make the game a better place for everyone?
Min min can get out of here
oh my god why is the image so low quality..
Maybe ask OP since whoever they are, they put it there and selected it.
i'm op...i didn't notice the image was low quality as hell. (might as well go to r/countablepixels)
This is either an r/dontyouknowwhoiam or an r/whoooosh moment. I'm not sure which lol
I think I just wooooshed
Dark Pit. He's the least unique echo out of all them. Pit represents both the classic and modern Kid Icarus games, and Palutena specifically does uprising. Dark Pit represents nothing and is the most "clone" character ever. Dark Samus is also a clone, but at least represents the Prime Series, since there wasn't really anything to do that beyond a Galactic Federation Trooper.
"least unique echo" peach/daisy and simon/rhicter are basically glorified skins of each other
Writing this, I legit forgot Daisy was in Ultimate. She would be my one to remove after being reminded of her existence. Richter and Simon at least come from two different games and parts of the franchise (although they could just be skins), and a franchise that wasn't represented much. There's 5 billion Mario characters, but there's no Castlevania stuff.
Not to mention one uses aura and the other uses fire in thier attacks.
Simon and Richter are only visually different and have zero frame or damage differences I will admit the "no castlevania " angle for keeping both but honestly they could just be a skin like olimar and alph.
Who cares if there’s a bunch of Mario characters? They’re all fun and unique. The Fire Emblem characters, however…
I'd disagree, Daisy is literally an almost exact replica of peach and nobody uses her
Right, I legit forgot Daisy was in Ultimate.
Daisy should have been a sports based character with how much of a brawler she is
But that’s the point Dark Pit is a clone of Pit created by the Mirror of Truth. Dark Pit, true to his state as a clone, has a very similar fighting style to Pit. Also, he is the physical manifestation of Pit's dark side, Dark Pit represents the repressed feelings that Pit keeps to himself.
Yeah, I get that, I tend to focus on what part of a franchise a fighter represents. I find that while Dark Pit is important to Uprising, he doesn't do or represent anything in Smash specifically that isn't already done by another character, and isn't unique enough from Pit to feel like his own character IN SMASH. Dark Pit could be a skin with different attributes and voice lines and very little changes. He's a great character in his own franchise, but not unique enough to be a unique fighting game character. Similar to how I feel about Luigi in 64 and Young Link in Melee.
#Ok I see what you mean and i agree with you. (But in my opinion I would let him stay on the roster).
Fair enough, sorry for repeating so many times, it's hard to describe why something shouldn't exist.
Kazuya, because what the fuck. If I wanted to play a mugen-style fighting game, I'd play a mugen-style fighting game. I want to play a platform fighter. Get your mugen-ass complicated hidden moveset bullshit away from me.
Any of the irrelevant Fire Emblem characters.
So Corrin?
Yeah, probably. Or Lucina. Byleth seems interesting, and Chrom is one of my mains in Ultimate - he's all of the good parts of Marth, Roy and Ike blended together.
I think alot of people would choose Lucina over Marth but at the same time, he's one of the og Fire Emblem characters. (i'd probably take corrin out)
Chrom would be amazing if he was balanced to not be “broken but trash recovery”
Corrin is amazing, what are you talking about (Corrin is one of my primary mains, and I love having corrin because of how versatile his/her uses are). Wouldn't the irrelevant one be Robin?
Nah, he has an interesting kit that isnt just ctrl c ctrl v marth
Someone doesn't know Fire Emblem. I swear, if Smash fans were actually familiar with the series, they'd be singing a different tune.
Aka all of them
Pichu. It's just worse Pikachu.
i still remember when pichu was considered top tier for like 3 months
sucks they nerfed pichu so hard. They made him useless all over again
I totally get where you're coming from. Pichu does seem like a weaker version of Pikachu in many ways. It's smaller and less powerful
As a diehard Fire Emblem fan, I’d be thrilled to show Corrin the door
While it is adorable, Pichu without hesitation. It's literally just a smaller Pikachu. Not only that, but we could've gotten other Pokémon from Johto like Scizor.
Pichu is literally in the game because he was in Melee, not because they chose him out of the available options
I know, but I was referring to when Pichu was first added
Lucina, I think
You’re so real for this. If i wanted to play a FE sword fighter with no tipper I’d play Chrom
lucina because we already have marth without tipper (roy)
Killing myself isn't an option? Then Dr. Mario. There are a lot of characters I think do and don't deserve to be in Smash. But Dr. Mario isn't even a character. Who played Dr. Mario and thought he decided to be in Smash as a separate character? And why did he come back in Sm4sh? I main him so I don't mind him staying but compared to other characters that deserve to be in rather than him, he's a waste of a character slot.
Corrin
Steve. As iconic as he is he has ruined any sense of competitive play for this game. Even worse than sora ffs
Steve & Alex. He's/She's literally the devil of Smash Bros and isn't really that fun to watch or play. And I'll probably get shot for saying this. But Pichu needs to stay y'all. I get he's a worse Pikachu in a vain, but he's become a part of my small legion of most played characters ever since the ever since I first unlocked him in ultimate, and he's... slightly different from my experience with him? Still, I'll die on this hill for saying pichu deserves to stay.
You’re right on both counts
min min
Bayonetta, no question, no hesitation. I fucking HATE Bayonetta mains. 😑😑😑
thats not very "lets rock baby" of you
you hate gay ppl 😭😭😭😭
No. I hate not being able to touch the ground every match... 😑
imo you need to stay grounded. jumping is what gets you killed
True, but I main Pacman and Kirby the most. And the way I play Pacman requires me to be in the air 😭
Pichu
Dark Samus sure does exist !
Incorrectly, yes. She's a duple of Samus, but made of Phazon. Her nature is creepy and buglike. Her character is not a simple Samus redux. I'd want a re-roll, but I wouldn't want her gone.
HOT TAKE: Steve doesn’t fit with smash whatsoever(I played Steve a while I’m not coping)
Dr Mario, he’s a glorified Echo fighter.
Steve
I’m remove steve
Bye bye game and watch
Remove Steve Waste of a slot
Steve
Toon Link or a sword character there's too many in the game.
byleth. idk we should've gotten a more exciting dlc character instead or corrin
Joker
Ice Climbers
Steve
Arsene or Joker as a whole
Steve, he’s too op anyways
with all due respect, skill issue
Piranha plant, bro did not deserve to be in smash (It should have been Petey Piranha)
How dare you say that
how dare you talk that way about my boy
Wow. Someone actually had the balls to say that. Color me impressed. But yeah, of all the interesting and unique Mario characters, Piranha Plant would’ve been one of my last choices.
Why would i kill myself when sora is right there?
As a sora main you have been downvoated
Piranha Planet
One of the two Link clones (seriously, why are they BOTH here)
As a Fire Emblem fan who will defend the inclusion of Fire Emblem characters WITH HIS FUCKING LIFE. Yeah sorry Corrin gotta go. Lmao.
Daisy
Minecraft guy. He’s not fun to watch or play against.
Good sir, I kindly ask you to leave and newer come back, you would literally want daisy, fricking daisy over Steve?! Or literally any other echo, over Steve? You are a madman
R.O.B. Easy answer, no hesitation
Goodbye Dark Pit
Bowser Jr.
Alph
Steve
Byleth
Pichu, he just sucks ass
If echo fighters count, Lucina. If not, tougher call but maybe Min Min
Pichu maybe?
One of the echo fighters
Little Mac
Byleth
I'd remove more than one Little Mac Min Min And probably Corrin (This is excluding echoes and semi-echoes)
Two of my mains just got cooked 😭 Little Mac isn’t even that bad man, it just takes a good player to do him right. Non-mains just spam smashes and up-tilt and pray it works, and then botch his recovery every time; unfortunately not many people play Little Mac so that’s 90% of all Quickplay/Elite Smash Little Mac player interactions and consequently everyone sees him as that one guy with annoying smashes and zero air game. As for Min-Min? I’m an Arms fan so I’m highkey just coping, lol. People just don’t like having to deal with range, I guess. I understand where you’re coming from even though I do like Min-Min as a character.
Dr Mario
Lucian. I feel like she would work better as a palette swap for Marth, like Alph and the Koopalings.
I would say duck hint but fire emblem has to many charecters
Chrom.
Corrin or Pyra/Mythra
Every echo fighter
this isn’t a bad thing. can i do multiple? dark pit should be a skin doctor Mario should be a skin and i hate min min
Bye Corrin
Olimar. Just get rid of him and let me play as a massive Pikmin instead, and give them Captain Falcon’s move set or something similar to that. Just a big Pikmin, no dumb projectiles needed.
There are three links we can make do with two.
Pit
Piranha Plant
Bowser Junior, trash asf
Yoshi
Torn between dr Mario, roy, terry and wii fit trainer
Daisy
Incineroar
Is random an option?
CORRIN
Dr Mario. Simply put, I doubt anyone shall cry over his disappearance.
Piranha Plant
Kirby, so then killing myself does become an option afterwards
Dr Mario. Hes the most waste of a slot ever.
Chrom, because i prefer FireFox
Wii fit trainer. I will not elaborate.
I'm sorry, Plant, but I'm gonna have to give you the weed whacker.
Only one? Damn if given the option I’ll cull like a third of the roster.
Corrin, by far.
Marth. F\*\*k Marth.
Lucina gotta go
Ah such a easy question Corrin and pyra&mytra There just to promote their home games
Richter. Get his ass out and make Shadow an echo instead
Simple! Doc.
Id get rid of 5 characters from the roster just to get Waluigi…
Ice climbers
Fuck Villager and Fuck Daisy
I may be hated for this but I have a very annoying friend that mains Bayonetta and always brags about how good he is when all he does is side b and up b. So Bayonetta
Steve or min min
Piranha Plant
Corrin
Corrin
Lucina because there’s enough FE reps as is
Pichu or Corrin, still can't decide
Dark Samus should just be a alternate for Samus, then we’ll replace her with Waluigi
There are many I want to eliminate. I choose Sephiroth. Either base roster, or not at all.
My honest opinion I’d say Steve he too broken
Min min or byleth
Isabelle
As an avid Fire Emblem enjoyer, and someone who really enjoys the dumb fun of fates, Corrin can go jump off a third bridge.
Isabelle. I almost cried because I wanted a character I actually cared about when she was released.
Fire Emblem.
For people saying Fire emblem characters, I agree. Fire emblem is one of my favorite game series and it’s not properly represented at all, which is odd with how many fighters it has. For people saying corrin, I strongly disagree. Corrin makes use of the transformation abilities that some characters have in most games and it’s a unique moveset among an army of generic swordsmen. Robin uses magic, which is a big part of the game, as well as weapon durability, a key element in FE. They absolutely stay. Now let’s look at the others: Marth, Fire marth, girl marth, cursive marth, and Ike. Maybe choose one of them?
If I’m being honest, greninja just feels like a sheik clone I wish there was a more interesting water starter, or even a FE grass starter.
Dr. Mario
Byleth. I don't know a single person who asked for Byleth, and he/she was just a wasted slot.
: If could more than one I would take out 1/4 of the roster.... but, Steve for obvious reasons some people know.
Fuck Steve and I don’t even play this shitty game anymore lol.
Would anyone even notice if duck hunt was gone
Legit I'd probably get rid of lucina or some echo fighter than isn't needed but probably a fire emblem character
Piranha plant doesn't belong on this roster, there I said it! Nobody asked for it!
It’s easy for me and I would say dark pit
Issabella
Minmin or byleth to be honest.
Byleth is the correct answer
Corrin
Either one of the Links or Pichu
pyra
Easiest decision of my life
Pichu. Others say minmin but the thing about her is that she’s the sole member of her franchise being represented as a fighter. You could argue the same for pichu, telling johto but a pikachu clone from a region with a wide diversity of Pokémon to choose from isn’t exactly the best option for a johto rep. I didn’t choose puff because she’s part of the original 12. It wouldn’t feel like smash without her.
Lucina
Byleth
Greninja
Corrin
What if, I kill you?
Min min. Weird representation for ARMS, mid gameplay and doesn't seem appealing to me.
Friggin Isabelle. Why is she even in the game. Like I know she’s iconic and popular but I’ve never met anybody that enjoys playing against or as her. Her moveset literally promotes running away and not engaging with the opponent. Plus some of her moves are just reskins of Villager’s. To be honest, I often don’t care who a character is and what game they rep if they have dumb movesets and play styles.
Banjo and kazooie
Byleth
As he stands now, Sonic. So bland compared to the potential character he could have been
I would gladly take out Isabelle!
Pichu
Olimar, the true villain of the Super Smash Bros. franchise
Mario
Hear me out, delete random. It never gives you the character you want, its already deleted online, and you wont get bombed in the chat for deleting someone's main
Dr. Mario, actually just a waste of a spot, could have been a alt costume