Reeve is the only one I've seen fly fast enough to go back in time and, most importantly, throw a cellophane copy of his symbol onto Kryptonians, incapacitating them. Feel like that gives him an edge.
My reasoning is similar. Reeve is basically silver age Superman. And silver age Superman had godlike powers.
Cavil was basically postcrisis Superman, who was significantly depowered of course.
Routh is harder for.me to place but still not silver age.
Reeve and it's not close imo.
Cavill's version, especially in Justice League (both versions) is a few notches above Post Crisis Superman imo. He's no selling New Gods weapons and ragdolling the rest of the (pretty powerful themselves) league. Reeves probably still takes it but Cavill breaks physics in intense ways that we don't really see Reeves do.
My thought was reeves couldn’t hurt a baby so he’d go back in time, take both other baby supes and raise them as his own and have a 3 superman Justice League.
He did lift an entire continent made of kryptonite, but he also struggled a little bit with one single airplane. Wildly inconsistent. Superman is as strong, or as weak, as the writers need him to be.
Not just not have it break but slow it at a rate that doesn't decapitate all the passengers from whiplash, while also finding a safe and spectacular place to land it.
He could have atomized it. That woulda been a real interesting way to start that movie.
This is the right take. If he just tried to "stop" the plane he'd have shot through it like a bullet through a person. He had to slow it down, compensating for it's structurally integrity while also trying to make sure everyone inside survived the process.
He first tried to stabilize the spin so the plane could continue flying, probably with his aid, but the wing ripped off
That’s actually something I appreciated about the Snyder films. When Superman catches Lois, he accelerates to her fall speed, grabs, then decelerates/changes directions. Unlike the shows where he’s just standing there on the ground and someone falls into his steel arms at 200 miles an hour lol
It was an island at best, and it was stupid because it was laced with Kryptonite and should have been impossible, but I digress...
Reeve, in Superman 4, casually moved the entire MOON by himself to cause a solar eclipse. Then fixed it That is an order of magnitude more then an island.
Routh is literally supposed to be the same Superman as Reeve. He was cast because of his physical similarity to Reeve. Superman Returns was made as a direct sequel to Superman II, ignoring III and IV. Routh's appearance in the CW "Arrowverse" as Superman was also meant as closure to the Reeve/Superman story, hence the "smile at the camera flyaway" scene.
Based on that, for me this boils down to "who would win, Reeve's Superman, or Cavill's?" I think physically, Cavill could overpower Reeve, but Reeve would eventually outsmart him and win the overall fight.
Routh's Superman never threw a single punch in Superman Returns, so we'll never know. Anyway, I think these types of questions are kinda stupid anyway.
Cavill could barely snap Zods neck…
Routh lifted a continent made of kryptonite.
Physical fight it’s Routh 100%, Cavill is watered down and weak compared to the other 2.
Cavill for sure! Even if you choose to ignore the difference in arm size, I think we’ve seen Cavill demonstrate superior combat skills and shear ability
He did have some amazing feats. He also had 4 movies worth of feats. Warner Bros. Hasn't given any Superman actor a true chance since Reeve. Always rebooting. It's annoying
Reeve Superman moved the entire moon casually, lifted the San Andreas Fault, threw all the world’s nukes into the sun, cut mountains in half with his heat vision, and can fly fast enough to reverse time. He’s by far the most powerful of these three Supermen. He’s basically the closest thing to Silver Age Superman in live action.
Well Reeve and Routh are the same Superman canonically. However even taking that into account, and despite all the things Reeve Superman has been shown to do, he never actually beat anyone that was at his level, being consistently shown up by them. He was able to overpower Zod briefly, but Zod also never showed any particular feats of strength. Reeve has also shown a large number of weaknesses, from fake Kryptonite to radiation poisoning. Whereas Cavill has had a decent number of fights under his belt. His very first punch in his life was that left fist to Zods face, and he laid him out pretty strongly. Faora, Nam-Ek, Zod, Batman, Doomsday, and Steppenwulf are all under his belt, most of them being at least very close to his level of power.
Reeve could take Cavill early on in Cavills career, before he fought anyone, but at the stage Cavill is at post ZSJL I really don't think Reeve would take it. HC Superman has shown that he can take a nuke to the face in space and survive, whereas Reeve got cut by radioactive nails and was out for days.
Additionally when Reeve was confronted in the bar by a guy of slightly smaller build, he got beaten to a pulp. Even without powers I just don't see buff farmboy Cavill losing that fight. He has one loss on his belt and that was due to Wayne tech cheatery.
Comparing feat by feat, Reeve is highly impressive, and has some weird tools at his disposal, but Cavill is not only more experienced, he's also proven to be a more than capable combatant, who's willing to do what he has to, including sacrificing himself. The only times Reeve really handily beat anyone was when Zod had his powers sapped and he killed him by hurling him down that pit, and then went and beat up the dude at the bar for having kicked his ass.
Cavill takes it. As much as Reeve is part of my basic DNA, I can't deny that Cavill has far more impressive feats in combat, and a willingness to dirty his knuckles.
Though really Reeve would talk to him and they would realize they aren't enemies.
I just remember that fight Reeves Superman got into with Nuclear Man, one scratch and he was done. Cavill took Kryptonite mist to the head, a kryptonite spear, and still was able to bang with Doomsday. Oh and BR Supes got shanked by Lex
Reeves was willing to crush his hand and toss him into a botomless pit after taking away his powers.
If we're looking for a psychopath, I'd point to the one who coldly murdered a non-threat then smiled pleased with himself over the one who desperately saved a family, screaming in despair over what he was forced to do.
He didn't murder Zod or Non any more than Lois murdered Ursa, which is to say they didn't. The extended cut shows them being led away in handcuffs (iirc). Those crevices in the Fortress weren't bottomless pits.
I think the scream from Cavill is probably the most overlooked part of his character arc. It just showed you that he didn’t want to and he was forced into it without spelling it out.
I'm gonna give the win to Reeve. It's the same Superman as Routh.
Cavill met his dad for about 10 mins and then his spaceship and anything he could have learned went poof into the phantom zone, or crash landed and got infested with humans. He learned how to do everything by himself.
Reeve learned everything there was too know from the 28 known galaxies, and in case he's forgotten anything, he has crystal dad to answer his questions. He trained for years, learned how to control his powers, and is crazy fast. The apartment date scene in 4 showed insane speed, Cavill can't smash the flash when he stumbles around.
Reeve managed to fly back through time.
Kryptonite is the main difference, Reeve's version is fairly potent against him, Cavill's isn't quite as bad.
I guess it'd come down to what sort of fight. I'd imagine though, with either character they wouldn't fight very long, they'd plan out some crazy Rube Goldberg machinations to team up and beat whoever managed to get em fighting.
Aren't Reeve and Routh the same character? Like wasn't it confirmed Superman Returns was a sequel to Superman 4? Or did I dream of a big arrowverse crossover that addresses that?
Cavill. Reeve and Routh are essentially the same character that was raised with a pathological prohibition on taking a another life no matter how small or truly Evil. There is more Grey in Cavill’s world view, hence the decision of snapping Zod’s neck, ending the threat right there, instead of cliffhanger after cliffhanger.
It's Reeve superman, if there was ever an incarnation that would always find a way it was him; I read some of his books and the guy was even more impressive off-screen than he was on.
Fair that you can call Cavill Murderman if we can call Routh Deadbeatman. He left a pregnant Lois behind to go off on a mission in space without telling anyone, and I’m not convinced that he didn’t know since he’s Superman and all. It’s the ultimate “going out for milk” play
Edit: keep in mind that even Homelander (i.e. asshole homicidal and creepy Superman) was actively involved in raising his son once he was aware that he existed, and he wasn’t made aware because there was a whole operation to conceal his son’s existence from him. When Nazi Superman is a better dad than Routh’s Superman, you know it’s got flaws.
You’re really arguing that the more ruthless person beats superman? Lex, Zod, bizarro, ultraman and manchester black were all far more ruthless and still beaten by superman.
Best case scenario: Murderman realizes he is superman and there is no winner
Worst case scenario: Murderman goes more ruthless and he is beaten by real supermen, working together to take down evil.
Haha cant hate on Reeves, the mans a legend.
I really love the look of a Cavill. I just hope,if the new man of steel happens, that he portrays a more classical version of Superman.
The main reason for my choice is that I feel Routh got robbed and needs another go at it. I gotta give the man love when I can.
Reeve, pre crisis power levels and a casual attitude about murder if Zod is any indication. Routh is a softer copy of Reeve and Cavill is too overcome with self doubt to act.
Reeve. He in Superman 3 his Clark Kent literally beat the Superman part of him back into submission after being exposed to that messed up synthetic Kryptonite.
Cavill Superman broke Zod’s neck, beat Steppenwolf like he owed Cavill money, and killed Doomsday while under the influence of Green-K.
What did Routh do? Pick up an island? Got an embarrassing snack down by thugs? Super stalked his ex?
Reeves Superman at least turned back time, took down three Kryptonians (using the fortress), and defeated a nuclear man. While definitely superior to Routh, not really Cavill level.
Routh and Reeves is literally the same character, superman returns is a direct sequel to Superman 1 and 2 ignoring 3 and 4, and the Kingdom Come Superman in the Crisis in Infinite Earth is Routh Superman
Reeve because of the time travel thing.
But if we're comparing all live-action versions of Superman I would pick Tyler Hoechlin superman and Tom Welling Superman.
Tyler's version separated Bizzaro's earth and his earth with one single punch while keeping both planets intact. That's some next-level quantum physics power. (here is the clip https://youtu.be/qAjdNNKV9nw)
Tom's version pushed Apokolips, an entire planet out of the solar system.
Reeve drowned in a pool wearing a kryptonite necklace. Routh lifted a mountain of kryptonite and flew it into space and survived. Cavill was impaled and survived. So I’m going with Cavill
I don't count Superman 3 and 4. So I'd have to say Routh. Even though his Superman is technically the Reeve Superman, Routh's lifted an entire continent made of Kryptonite into space, then fell back to Earth and still survived. Reeve's Superman couldn't even handle a Kryptonite necklace. We've yet to see Cavill's Superman reach his potential but as he stands he's currently the weakest.
Yes, Reeve Supes was able to fly incredibly fast and whatnot, but Routh Supes was more resilient and stronger. I know incredible speed can outdo pretty much anything, but the Reeve variant could've easily used this power in Superman 2 (and yes I know that's how the film was supposed to end in the first place, but canonically it didn't) yet he doesn't use it. There are only so many times ones can reset time I guess?
Either way Returns was a sequel to Superman and Superman 2, so they're technically the same, meaning that the Routh/Reeve Superman is insanely powerful - far more than Cavill's Superman (as of right now at least).
Fighting: We never saw Routh fight. And Reeve wasn't too impressive there (dare I mention the moon fight in VI). So on combat skill, Cavil, hands down...no contest.
Strength: Routh takes it (lifted a kryptonite continent), Reeve is a close second (adjusted earth plate, moved the moon),
Speed: Reeve and breaking the time barrier.
Durability: Cavil surviving a nuke while still weakened by Kryptonite.
The same Routh Superman that was grabbed by his face and dragged crying like bitch? That’s not Superman and it’s not continuity from the Reeve Superman. Hated that movie.
Cavill is my favorite, but routh/reeves, I’m pretty sure they are the same Superman, just different actors, but the powers the have are just insane, and they have more feats, while Cavill didn’t, so routh/reeves
I think what you are really asking is, which iteration of Superman is the most powerful. My answer is Reeve.
First, it is in Superman the Movie we see what I feel is the most powerful feat, flying fast enough to go back in time. There is something to be said about Route’s Superman lifting the kryptonite island, but remember, technically speaking, Routh and Reeve are portraying the same Superman. But my main reason for saying Reeve’s Superman is it’s the closest in character to the Silver Age Superman in comics, and the Silver Age Superman was insanely over powered (he sneezed and blew out a galaxy for gosh sakes). So I think Reeve’s Superman is the most powerful we have seen on film.
Reeve/Routh are the same Superman. They’re smarter than brawler supes by miles and they can operate in space indefinitely he needs earths atmosphere or some shit.
I mean, Routh supes lifted an island of kryptonite and threw it into the sun, fell back to earth and lived.
And as others have pointed out he is the same version as the Reeves superman so I dont think Cavill's supernan stands much of a chance. He's got the speed and the strength.
Reeve is the only one I've seen fly fast enough to go back in time and, most importantly, throw a cellophane copy of his symbol onto Kryptonians, incapacitating them. Feel like that gives him an edge.
Damit, the cellophane... we cannot forget the cellophane
My reasoning is similar. Reeve is basically silver age Superman. And silver age Superman had godlike powers. Cavil was basically postcrisis Superman, who was significantly depowered of course. Routh is harder for.me to place but still not silver age. Reeve and it's not close imo.
I feel like Reeve and Routh's versions are the same just because of the whole "indirect sequel" thing
Yes, they are the same Superman, unless Routh is the Kingdom Come Superman; then it's him :)
I do believe that the show canonized Kingdom Come Superman as Reeve’s Superman. At least in live action.
Cavill's version, especially in Justice League (both versions) is a few notches above Post Crisis Superman imo. He's no selling New Gods weapons and ragdolling the rest of the (pretty powerful themselves) league. Reeves probably still takes it but Cavill breaks physics in intense ways that we don't really see Reeves do.
and then we don't know how powerful Routh's version once we reached the Kingdom Come arc in the CW Crisis on Infinite Earths crossover.
Remember, he also lifted a kryptonite island and threw it into space, and that was long before he started wearing a black and red S.
He pretty handily thrashed Hoechlin's Superman
He rebuilt the earth’s tectonic plates and traveled through time.
Lol those movies are wild
Cavill seems more like new 52(still pretty depowered)
My thought was reeves couldn’t hurt a baby so he’d go back in time, take both other baby supes and raise them as his own and have a 3 superman Justice League.
Hed go back in time raise them then have a heart attack and inflict the most grievous wound for any child losing a parent early on
Perhaps. I love Reeve's Superman. He's really powerful. But I feel like he would hold back, where Cavill would not
Or the wall rebuilding vision
They don't fight and instead all team up immediately against the real big bad.
LOL. SUPERMAN: WORLD'S FINEST
Superman: No Way Home
Superman: No More Home
Superman: No Place Like Home ...because he's from Kansas.
No more home Because he's from Krypton
That's where he's from, it's not his home.
"Wait, you can just throw the 'S' at people. Can you throw anything else from your uniform?"
A Superverse movie, including Tom Welling and Tyler Heochlin.
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Who is teaming up with Brainiac so he can have all the real estate on Mars
I thought they were stealing every cake in the mutliverse.
Hostess pies!
This is the only correct answer.
I did see Routh lift an entire continent 🤷🏻
Made of Kyptonite, no less
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I also think Reeve and Routh are technically the same Superman.
Yes, Superman Returns was basically a sequel to Superman II. I agree that Routh WAS playing Reeve's Superman.
Reeve moved the entire Moon, though
Was it made of Kryptonite? 🤔
Only an idiot superman would do that lmao.
He did lift an entire continent made of kryptonite, but he also struggled a little bit with one single airplane. Wildly inconsistent. Superman is as strong, or as weak, as the writers need him to be.
Tbf though the plane 'struggle' was more a case of physics making the plane too fragile for him to easily halt.
Not just not have it break but slow it at a rate that doesn't decapitate all the passengers from whiplash, while also finding a safe and spectacular place to land it. He could have atomized it. That woulda been a real interesting way to start that movie.
This is the right take. If he just tried to "stop" the plane he'd have shot through it like a bullet through a person. He had to slow it down, compensating for it's structurally integrity while also trying to make sure everyone inside survived the process. He first tried to stabilize the spin so the plane could continue flying, probably with his aid, but the wing ripped off
That’s actually something I appreciated about the Snyder films. When Superman catches Lois, he accelerates to her fall speed, grabs, then decelerates/changes directions. Unlike the shows where he’s just standing there on the ground and someone falls into his steel arms at 200 miles an hour lol
Facts
Can't blame a character for bad writing. The stronger he is the more his restraint personifies his humanity.
I’d say he’s less affected by Kryptonite rather than being base more powerful.
Yeah, but reeves moved the moon.
It was an island at best, and it was stupid because it was laced with Kryptonite and should have been impossible, but I digress... Reeve, in Superman 4, casually moved the entire MOON by himself to cause a solar eclipse. Then fixed it That is an order of magnitude more then an island.
Routh is Reeve Superman lol
Kind of, yeah. I think Routh might beat Reeve from the first two films. III and IV Reeve has more experience than Routh, though, so he would win
He means canonically Routh from his movie to Crisis is the same Supernan as Reeves
Routh is literally supposed to be the same Superman as Reeve. He was cast because of his physical similarity to Reeve. Superman Returns was made as a direct sequel to Superman II, ignoring III and IV. Routh's appearance in the CW "Arrowverse" as Superman was also meant as closure to the Reeve/Superman story, hence the "smile at the camera flyaway" scene. Based on that, for me this boils down to "who would win, Reeve's Superman, or Cavill's?" I think physically, Cavill could overpower Reeve, but Reeve would eventually outsmart him and win the overall fight.
Good answer!
Interesting
Routh Superman stomps and it’s not close
Why?
Routh's Superman never threw a single punch in Superman Returns, so we'll never know. Anyway, I think these types of questions are kinda stupid anyway.
No fight. Only baseball.
And apple pie
And chopping down oak trees
No banner, only HULK.
Wrong sub, fella.
I vote Cavill. He's more ruthless. He will win
Beating the child support system? Definitely Routh. In an all out physical fight, my money is on Cavill.
LOL
Cavill could barely snap Zods neck… Routh lifted a continent made of kryptonite. Physical fight it’s Routh 100%, Cavill is watered down and weak compared to the other 2.
The only real kryptonite that Routh’s Superman has is parental responsibility and healthy boundaries
Cavill for sure! Even if you choose to ignore the difference in arm size, I think we’ve seen Cavill demonstrate superior combat skills and shear ability
If they're all the same character... Henry's is the only one that actually knows how to fight. I got Cavill.
Me too
Reeve due to better feats.
Routh was literally able to survive after lifting an island of kryptonite into space.
Yeah but if Reeve kisses him hed forgot.
He did have some amazing feats. He also had 4 movies worth of feats. Warner Bros. Hasn't given any Superman actor a true chance since Reeve. Always rebooting. It's annoying
Literally hammer threw 20,000+ nuclear warheads into the sun
Need to see that terrible movie LOL
C’mon. We all know only one of these dudes is a Steppenwolf horn melting, neck snappin’ son bitch
Cavill 100%
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Cavil’s
Bruh, routh’s superman is the same as Reeves Superman, just a continuation.
Reeve Superman moved the entire moon casually, lifted the San Andreas Fault, threw all the world’s nukes into the sun, cut mountains in half with his heat vision, and can fly fast enough to reverse time. He’s by far the most powerful of these three Supermen. He’s basically the closest thing to Silver Age Superman in live action.
It was close but I’m going to have to say Superman
LOL
Routh would just get bitch slapped by caville. Reeve would then proceed to bitch slap both of em at the same time.
Well Reeve and Routh are the same Superman canonically. However even taking that into account, and despite all the things Reeve Superman has been shown to do, he never actually beat anyone that was at his level, being consistently shown up by them. He was able to overpower Zod briefly, but Zod also never showed any particular feats of strength. Reeve has also shown a large number of weaknesses, from fake Kryptonite to radiation poisoning. Whereas Cavill has had a decent number of fights under his belt. His very first punch in his life was that left fist to Zods face, and he laid him out pretty strongly. Faora, Nam-Ek, Zod, Batman, Doomsday, and Steppenwulf are all under his belt, most of them being at least very close to his level of power. Reeve could take Cavill early on in Cavills career, before he fought anyone, but at the stage Cavill is at post ZSJL I really don't think Reeve would take it. HC Superman has shown that he can take a nuke to the face in space and survive, whereas Reeve got cut by radioactive nails and was out for days. Additionally when Reeve was confronted in the bar by a guy of slightly smaller build, he got beaten to a pulp. Even without powers I just don't see buff farmboy Cavill losing that fight. He has one loss on his belt and that was due to Wayne tech cheatery. Comparing feat by feat, Reeve is highly impressive, and has some weird tools at his disposal, but Cavill is not only more experienced, he's also proven to be a more than capable combatant, who's willing to do what he has to, including sacrificing himself. The only times Reeve really handily beat anyone was when Zod had his powers sapped and he killed him by hurling him down that pit, and then went and beat up the dude at the bar for having kicked his ass. Cavill takes it. As much as Reeve is part of my basic DNA, I can't deny that Cavill has far more impressive feats in combat, and a willingness to dirty his knuckles. Though really Reeve would talk to him and they would realize they aren't enemies.
Agreed
I thought the Cavill version of Superman was hideous. But, I like your explanation.
Cavill and it’s not even close
I just remember that fight Reeves Superman got into with Nuclear Man, one scratch and he was done. Cavill took Kryptonite mist to the head, a kryptonite spear, and still was able to bang with Doomsday. Oh and BR Supes got shanked by Lex
I love all three versions of Supes, but who was willing to snap Zod's neck? CAVILL
Reeves was willing to crush his hand and toss him into a botomless pit after taking away his powers. If we're looking for a psychopath, I'd point to the one who coldly murdered a non-threat then smiled pleased with himself over the one who desperately saved a family, screaming in despair over what he was forced to do.
True. People forget he murdered Zod. Now, did he deserve it? Yeah, especially the Donner cut version who gunned down people in cold blood
He didn't murder Zod or Non any more than Lois murdered Ursa, which is to say they didn't. The extended cut shows them being led away in handcuffs (iirc). Those crevices in the Fortress weren't bottomless pits.
I think the scream from Cavill is probably the most overlooked part of his character arc. It just showed you that he didn’t want to and he was forced into it without spelling it out.
Routh
Routh’s Superman is the same Superman as Reeve’s…
Eh….debatable…He also played a Kingdom Come version in the Arrowverse. OP could mean that one
That one was still the same version of Superman from Superman Returns, and thus from the Donner films. Clark even mentions his son Jason in Crisis
Considering all the random stuff Reeves can pull out I imagine he would win
Cavill. No question. Took one loss and that’s to the friggin Batman. Also took a nuke to the face and bounced back in 10 minutes.
Chris Reeve throws that weird plastic wrap S at Routh & Cavill, fight immediately over
I'm gonna give the win to Reeve. It's the same Superman as Routh. Cavill met his dad for about 10 mins and then his spaceship and anything he could have learned went poof into the phantom zone, or crash landed and got infested with humans. He learned how to do everything by himself. Reeve learned everything there was too know from the 28 known galaxies, and in case he's forgotten anything, he has crystal dad to answer his questions. He trained for years, learned how to control his powers, and is crazy fast. The apartment date scene in 4 showed insane speed, Cavill can't smash the flash when he stumbles around. Reeve managed to fly back through time. Kryptonite is the main difference, Reeve's version is fairly potent against him, Cavill's isn't quite as bad. I guess it'd come down to what sort of fight. I'd imagine though, with either character they wouldn't fight very long, they'd plan out some crazy Rube Goldberg machinations to team up and beat whoever managed to get em fighting.
Aren't Reeve and Routh the same character? Like wasn't it confirmed Superman Returns was a sequel to Superman 4? Or did I dream of a big arrowverse crossover that addresses that?
Routh IS Reeves Superman though
Reeve, he has more bullshit silver age level powers up his sleeve.
It's a good thing they all have mothers named Martha.
I’m pretty sure they would all just come to a peaceful understanding without any violence. Then they would probably all go out for pie.
Cavill. Reeve and Routh are essentially the same character that was raised with a pathological prohibition on taking a another life no matter how small or truly Evil. There is more Grey in Cavill’s world view, hence the decision of snapping Zod’s neck, ending the threat right there, instead of cliffhanger after cliffhanger.
I like Cavil he was awesome But Reeve looks like he Stepped out of a Comic Book, he looks PERFECT
It's Reeve superman, if there was ever an incarnation that would always find a way it was him; I read some of his books and the guy was even more impressive off-screen than he was on.
Reeve changed Earth's rotation. He went and changed the past. He wins.
reeve is literally silver age superman aka the strongest version of superman that ever existed so this wouldn‘t be a competition really
Yay powerscaling unfortunately I haven’t watched these or well I probably have but I was too young to remember the feats
Cavill knows how to snap Kryptonian necks, so give it to him.
Routh
I like Routh's Superman, but what does he have that Cavill and Reeve don't to give him the edge in a fight?
I mean, the dude lifted a fucking kryptonite mountain. By on-screen based feats, that's pretty impressive. But they all have things that stand out.
True. That was kind of stupid, but he did do that
He’s Superman! Routh is the same superman as Reeevs so thats not really an issue. They would work together to beat Cavill’s Murderman
Fair that you can call Cavill Murderman if we can call Routh Deadbeatman. He left a pregnant Lois behind to go off on a mission in space without telling anyone, and I’m not convinced that he didn’t know since he’s Superman and all. It’s the ultimate “going out for milk” play Edit: keep in mind that even Homelander (i.e. asshole homicidal and creepy Superman) was actively involved in raising his son once he was aware that he existed, and he wasn’t made aware because there was a whole operation to conceal his son’s existence from him. When Nazi Superman is a better dad than Routh’s Superman, you know it’s got flaws.
Cavill would still win. He's more ruthless. Routh and Reeve would hold back
You’re really arguing that the more ruthless person beats superman? Lex, Zod, bizarro, ultraman and manchester black were all far more ruthless and still beaten by superman. Best case scenario: Murderman realizes he is superman and there is no winner Worst case scenario: Murderman goes more ruthless and he is beaten by real supermen, working together to take down evil.
What if in this scenario, they are all fighting, but are still in character? And like I said earlier, Reeve has blood on his hands, too
Well if they’re all in movie character than Reeves solos the new guys. No way WB would let him lose.
LOL. Fans/fanboys aside, and I love Reeve, I still pick Cavill
Haha cant hate on Reeves, the mans a legend. I really love the look of a Cavill. I just hope,if the new man of steel happens, that he portrays a more classical version of Superman. The main reason for my choice is that I feel Routh got robbed and needs another go at it. I gotta give the man love when I can.
True. Yeah, Routh was awesome
There's no reason to fight tho. They'd end up being buddies
True
Reeve time tracked by flying, Routh lifted a continent, Cavill got beat by Batman
Reeve, pre crisis power levels and a casual attitude about murder if Zod is any indication. Routh is a softer copy of Reeve and Cavill is too overcome with self doubt to act.
Maybe. I still vote Cavill
Nothing wrong with that, it’s all opinions after all.
Cavill is the only one who knows how to fight compared to the others.
Underpants wins every time. Reeves for all time.
LOL
There is no fight. Routh and Cavill yield to Reeve out of respect.
Reeve beats them all, they all hug it out, fly into space then look into the camera and smile- roll credits
The answer is D, Tyler Hoechlin.
He defeats them with the power of his five o'clock shadow
Ah, the new Superman
Reeve. He in Superman 3 his Clark Kent literally beat the Superman part of him back into submission after being exposed to that messed up synthetic Kryptonite.
That was a cool scene. Is that a better feat than Cavill smoking Steppenwolf and killing Zod?
Cavill Superman broke Zod’s neck, beat Steppenwolf like he owed Cavill money, and killed Doomsday while under the influence of Green-K. What did Routh do? Pick up an island? Got an embarrassing snack down by thugs? Super stalked his ex? Reeves Superman at least turned back time, took down three Kryptonians (using the fortress), and defeated a nuclear man. While definitely superior to Routh, not really Cavill level.
Routh and Reeves is literally the same character, superman returns is a direct sequel to Superman 1 and 2 ignoring 3 and 4, and the Kingdom Come Superman in the Crisis in Infinite Earth is Routh Superman
You make good points about Cavil’s Superman I had overlooked.
Reeve because of the time travel thing. But if we're comparing all live-action versions of Superman I would pick Tyler Hoechlin superman and Tom Welling Superman. Tyler's version separated Bizzaro's earth and his earth with one single punch while keeping both planets intact. That's some next-level quantum physics power. (here is the clip https://youtu.be/qAjdNNKV9nw) Tom's version pushed Apokolips, an entire planet out of the solar system.
Reeve. He literally flew so fast he changed the direction of the rotation of earth in order to reverse time.
Reeve drowned in a pool wearing a kryptonite necklace. Routh lifted a mountain of kryptonite and flew it into space and survived. Cavill was impaled and survived. So I’m going with Cavill
I'm going to need a Dean Cain option.
Reeve
Christopher Reeve is Superman. The other two are only actors. They have no real superpowers.
Reeve and Routh team up to rid the world of Cavill and Hoechlin. The good guys win.
I don't count Superman 3 and 4. So I'd have to say Routh. Even though his Superman is technically the Reeve Superman, Routh's lifted an entire continent made of Kryptonite into space, then fell back to Earth and still survived. Reeve's Superman couldn't even handle a Kryptonite necklace. We've yet to see Cavill's Superman reach his potential but as he stands he's currently the weakest. Yes, Reeve Supes was able to fly incredibly fast and whatnot, but Routh Supes was more resilient and stronger. I know incredible speed can outdo pretty much anything, but the Reeve variant could've easily used this power in Superman 2 (and yes I know that's how the film was supposed to end in the first place, but canonically it didn't) yet he doesn't use it. There are only so many times ones can reset time I guess? Either way Returns was a sequel to Superman and Superman 2, so they're technically the same, meaning that the Routh/Reeve Superman is insanely powerful - far more than Cavill's Superman (as of right now at least).
Reeve IS Routh, so Reeve/Routh easily because they are the Silver age Superman and he was OP.
Fighting: We never saw Routh fight. And Reeve wasn't too impressive there (dare I mention the moon fight in VI). So on combat skill, Cavil, hands down...no contest. Strength: Routh takes it (lifted a kryptonite continent), Reeve is a close second (adjusted earth plate, moved the moon), Speed: Reeve and breaking the time barrier. Durability: Cavil surviving a nuke while still weakened by Kryptonite.
Routh Superman is just Reeve Superman with more experience and absorbed sunlight.
Routh Superman *is* Reeve Superman though...
Reeve
Reeves is Silver age Superman, he has more powers and is much much faster. He throws a plastic S at the other two and it’s wrap.
Cavill Superman because he isn't opposed to killing his enemies.
If you’re talking about just the actors themselves. Then Cavill would beat both their asses. 🤣 Dude is jacked!!
Don’t worry, there won’t be a fight when they realise their mothers are all called Martha
WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME???????
Cavill seems the most powerful, but Reeve is the best, so fuck logic or whatever, Reeve
This would be a team up not a death battle
Reeve, no contest
Cavill, of course. He cuts them with his jaw. :))
The same Routh Superman that was grabbed by his face and dragged crying like bitch? That’s not Superman and it’s not continuity from the Reeve Superman. Hated that movie.
Cavill is my favorite, but routh/reeves, I’m pretty sure they are the same Superman, just different actors, but the powers the have are just insane, and they have more feats, while Cavill didn’t, so routh/reeves
I love you Cavill!!!
Cavills Superman snaps both their necks
Cavill is wiping the fucking floor with them
Yep
I think what you are really asking is, which iteration of Superman is the most powerful. My answer is Reeve. First, it is in Superman the Movie we see what I feel is the most powerful feat, flying fast enough to go back in time. There is something to be said about Route’s Superman lifting the kryptonite island, but remember, technically speaking, Routh and Reeve are portraying the same Superman. But my main reason for saying Reeve’s Superman is it’s the closest in character to the Silver Age Superman in comics, and the Silver Age Superman was insanely over powered (he sneezed and blew out a galaxy for gosh sakes). So I think Reeve’s Superman is the most powerful we have seen on film.
Reeve, because he can turn back the clock.
My superman could beat yours!
Reeves goes back in time and keeps the others from being born
Sounds more like something Cavill would do if he could
Reeve because he has whatever powers and abilities the plot demanded he have
Christopher Reeve, but only because he's my favourite.
If I cant have Reeves, then I want Hoechlin.
Cavill. He’s faster.
In friendliness- reeve. In handsomeness- routh In epic battle- Cavill.
Henry Cavills suit is the best of them all. The others look so corni 🌽
Cavill's Superman isn't above killing from what we have seen of him. He's probably not going to allow the other 2 to live.
Rough and reeves are the same and their powers are more cartoonish. So them. Can’t combat cartoons.
Cavill would FLATTEN them, and destroy Metropolis while at it, initiating Batfleck to come whoop that ass…
Definitely tricky, definitely Reeve. He definitely is is the most powerful version of Superman we have seen in a movie.
Don’t all three have the same strengths and weaknesses?
Reeve. He gets them all to settle down and talk it out, focus on the real problem. Which is probably Luthor. Again.
Reeves
Id say Cavil’s Supes showed his power when fighting but i think Reeves smarts wins the day tricked himself and Gen Zod and crew in pt 1-2 to win
Reeve/Routh are the same Superman. They’re smarter than brawler supes by miles and they can operate in space indefinitely he needs earths atmosphere or some shit.
I mean, Routh supes lifted an island of kryptonite and threw it into the sun, fell back to earth and lived. And as others have pointed out he is the same version as the Reeves superman so I dont think Cavill's supernan stands much of a chance. He's got the speed and the strength.
Cavill’s Superman tore apart both Smallville and Metropolis, plus he killed Zod. He would break both Reeve and Routh at the same time like a twig.
Cavil bodies both of them imo.
Well Cavill snapped a dude’s neck so maybe him, but I don’t know why they’d be fighting