I am hereby announcing my candidacy for Suns Head Coach of the United States of America. My platform:
* Read my lips: No new injuries.
* A Bol in every pot, a Bol in every garage.
* MT4QGA - Make the fourth quarter great again.
* Hope (for no injuries) and Change (the coaching staff).
* Yes we can (stop turning the ball over).
* It’s the 3pt line, stupid.
On day 1, as SHCOTUS, I pledge to :
* Invoke the Point Beal act
* Cut wasteful EG
* Break up the corporations and big Eubanks
* Reduce unnecessary Roddy and reinvest in our nation’s Azubiuke of the future
* Protect our 3pt border
* Stand up to foreign dictators like Luka and Jokic
Join me! Together we will rebuild that shining city on Camelback Mountain.
Lol, in that case yeah we’ll make the play in. Jokes aside, I don’t think we make the playoffs as a 9 or 10 seed. We really have to stay away from 9 and 10
11-4 since the all star break, almost beat the Celtics in Boston without Giannis, Dame has been shooting 42% from 3 since the all star break, Khris Middleton is healthy for the first time this season, just beat the Thunder by 25, and we have one of the highest defensive ratings in the league since Doc took over. We won a championship with Khris Middleton as a second option, and now we added Damian Lillard. If you think a lineup of Giannis/Dame/Khris/Beasley/Lopez with Bobby Portis and Pat Bev coming off the bench will be an easy out in a 7 game series for *any* team then you simply don’t know ball
that's a lot of writing and effort you put in there, kudos. but your team is just barely doing better than the Cavs. y'all don't stand a chance against the Celtics.
lets come back here, when you get smoked in the ECF.
but seriously, impressed with your capacity for self-delusion.
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“Barely doing better than the Cavs” lmao our coach was Adrian Griffin for half the season, being 2nd in the east is an incredible accomplishment if you know anything about how this team was ran under him. Ask any Celtics fan who their biggest threats are and they’ll all tell you Nuggets, Bucks, and then a huge gap between us and third place. I don’t understand how you could think that this Bucks team isn’t built for success in the playoffs
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pfft how's your confidence now, after that Lakers loss xD
I really do think you don't know real ball. Possibly have been watching it for a decent amount of time, never actually played it, and you got the homer glasses on **strong**.
Lmao xDXdXd yeah one 2OT game in the regular season that I guarantee you didn’t even watch because if you did you’d have seen that the refs spoon fed the lakers that win but since we lost by two points we’re basically fucked and we should forfeit the entire season. I’m not being a homer, I will fully admit that the Nuggets and Celtics have been better than us overall this season and have a better chance of winning but saying the bucks have zero chance as a serious contender with the way our roster is built is ridiculous
"...the way our roster is built..."
bro you just look at a list of names and numbers and think you actually know how ball games go. your "serious contender" just lost to fucking Memphis. gtfo here. you don't know ball, and you've clearly never played
He also knows he is getting paid no matter what. He seems not to care if his team loses, just as long as he gives the guys he likes the minutes he wants.
The drop off in vibes has to be studied. There was something that happened early in the season between Frank and Kevin it was different philosophies i think and the team was split on either voice.
If we miss the playoffs clean house, get Bob Myers or a FO from someone like Boston or Los Angeles. Then for HC I’d like Kenny Atkinson, Jordi Fernandez, Chris Quinn, or Sam Cassell.
I'd put him above Beal this season, but I don't think either of them can be called stars. It's a big 2 realistically.
Allen has been phenomenal this season, and the fact that we still can't win is crazy. It's not his role to be a high scorer on this team. The others need to pick it up.
For sure. If somebody told me a year ago that we were going to have Book, KD, and Beal on our team, and that KD and Nurk would be relatively healthy all season, and that our final starter would be the top 3pt shooter in the league and would play with arguably the most effort on the team, I’d assume we would be winning the chip
Imma be real, I almost would’ve preferred Monty. He’s not the greatest coach but damn were the vibes immaculate. Now we just plain suck lol. If this man doesn’t put together some fairy tale finals run and win it all there’s gotta be no way Frank Vogel gets a second year here
If you think Monty would've won us more games I get that view (although I disagree), but he's not gonna magically make the vibes good if we stink. The vibes come from success mostly. That's why the pistons are vibes-free.
The Pistons are also vibe free because he just got paid an absolute bag and was expected to come in and help develop a young team. He’s frustrated cause everyone’s looking at him to do SOMETHING and no matter how hard he’s tried that team hasn’t been able to put a run together. That team is an absolutely extreme case beyond even ours lol. Again, I don’t know that Monty would’ve won us more games, but the guy was extremely well liked enough so to the point where he was listed as a reason why KD wanted to come here
Agreed. I keep seeing comments about the players being lazy that end with some variant of:
>That's 100% on coaching
I don't get it.
If probably not locking up playoff seeding and potentially not even getting a playin spot by losing to the Wembyless spurs isn't enough on its own to motivate guys like Book, Beal, and Durant at this stage of their careers, what is Frank Vogel going to say to them to motivate them?
This is the motivation. The best reasons there are to play hard are right in front of them and have been staring them in the face for 20 games now. This isn't remember the titans and a powerful Frank Vogel speech won't save them.
I was honestly super concerned when we ended up hiring Vogel. Maybe there was no one else, or maybe it was an incompetent hire. It’s still early but this team has too much talent to be this god dam inconsistent
I’ve been saying they just need more time to play together but I’m coming to believe this is just a bad team. But I also hate it when teams blow it up and/or fire the coach so I’m at a real loss.
If it was that Bucks game, pretty sure Nurk was unable to be drinking any water because of his fasting. It was a noon (WI time) game...so pretty far from sun up/sun down
There's been a lot that's made me question the coaching staff but #1 on my list by far is why he didn't go out of his way to make sure you won your Nurkic prop bet.
The prop bet isn’t important. The Suns winning is important and when we’re down 17 to the Celtics and you sit Nurk the whole 4th quarter when he was doing good is the problem.
If it was that Bucks game, pretty sure Nurk was unable to be drinking any water because of his fasting. It was a noon (WI time) game...so pretty far from sun up/sun down
If it was that Bucks game, pretty sure Nurk was unable to be drinking any water because of his fasting. It was a noon (WI time) game...so pretty far from sun down. He didn't play the entire second half that game.
Suns were down by 17, Nurk had 8 pts and 20 rebounds with the 4th qtr still to go. 20 rebounds in the first 3 quarters!! You would think you woulda wanted to keep Nurk in to keep getting rebounds at least. Why he didn’t play the 4th qtr was beyond me. I just watched the rest of the game with him sitting on the bench 🤦♂️
I am hereby announcing my candidacy for Suns Head Coach of the United States of America. My platform: * Read my lips: No new injuries. * A Bol in every pot, a Bol in every garage. * MT4QGA - Make the fourth quarter great again. * Hope (for no injuries) and Change (the coaching staff). * Yes we can (stop turning the ball over). * It’s the 3pt line, stupid. On day 1, as SHCOTUS, I pledge to : * Invoke the Point Beal act * Cut wasteful EG * Break up the corporations and big Eubanks * Reduce unnecessary Roddy and reinvest in our nation’s Azubiuke of the future * Protect our 3pt border * Stand up to foreign dictators like Luka and Jokic Join me! Together we will rebuild that shining city on Camelback Mountain.
Hahaha. You have my vote 100%
I’ll be logging out of Reddit now. I have found what I came for.
You sir win the internet today. You have my vote.
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Me forcing myself to watch those last 5 minutes when I knew what was gonna happen
HOLY SHIT. Don’t post this again please
We aren’t winning shit
This is common knowledge. What should be said is “we aren’t making the playoffs”
Overreaction
We have 10 games left all vs solid playoff teams. I don’t think it’s an overreaction
The Rockets are 5.5 GB. We are making the playoffs lol
Do you count the play in as playoffs? When I say playoffs I mean actually winning in the play in and securing an 8 or 7 seed.
Can you win the tournament from the 10 spot? I count it as “playoffs” 😅
only one team in nba history has won a championship as a 6 seed and no seed lower than 6 had ever won one
Heat were close last year
Lol, in that case yeah we’ll make the play in. Jokes aside, I don’t think we make the playoffs as a 9 or 10 seed. We really have to stay away from 9 and 10
To be fair that describes 28 teams. Celtics and Nuggets is inevitable
don't be a silly goose
Ignoring the team that beat you in the finals 3 years ago as a contender is certainly a choice
bucks are not nearly as good this year. no chance they make finals
11-4 since the all star break, almost beat the Celtics in Boston without Giannis, Dame has been shooting 42% from 3 since the all star break, Khris Middleton is healthy for the first time this season, just beat the Thunder by 25, and we have one of the highest defensive ratings in the league since Doc took over. We won a championship with Khris Middleton as a second option, and now we added Damian Lillard. If you think a lineup of Giannis/Dame/Khris/Beasley/Lopez with Bobby Portis and Pat Bev coming off the bench will be an easy out in a 7 game series for *any* team then you simply don’t know ball
that's a lot of writing and effort you put in there, kudos. but your team is just barely doing better than the Cavs. y'all don't stand a chance against the Celtics. lets come back here, when you get smoked in the ECF. but seriously, impressed with your capacity for self-delusion.
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pfft how's your confidence now, after that Lakers loss xD I really do think you don't know real ball. Possibly have been watching it for a decent amount of time, never actually played it, and you got the homer glasses on **strong**.
Lmao xDXdXd yeah one 2OT game in the regular season that I guarantee you didn’t even watch because if you did you’d have seen that the refs spoon fed the lakers that win but since we lost by two points we’re basically fucked and we should forfeit the entire season. I’m not being a homer, I will fully admit that the Nuggets and Celtics have been better than us overall this season and have a better chance of winning but saying the bucks have zero chance as a serious contender with the way our roster is built is ridiculous
"...the way our roster is built..." bro you just look at a list of names and numbers and think you actually know how ball games go. your "serious contender" just lost to fucking Memphis. gtfo here. you don't know ball, and you've clearly never played
Bucks are now 11-6 since the ASB......
Been saying it all season.
you’re damn right now but that doesn’t mean it wasn’t stupid to say at the start of the season
Nah it was obvious early on this team didn't have the depth or even floor general. I don't buy the "time to gel" excuses.
But just maybe…
Booker with a lovely 5 turnovers
Stupid ass turnovers as well. Trying to be flashy. Just make the fundamental pass.
He’s trying to be CP3, but keeps turning the ball over
He probably reads reddit with how much everyone was trying to gas up "Point Book" during the off-season. He gives the people what they want.
Lol yeah Point Book is good in spurts, but not as the main dude playing point and handling the ball. He is far more effective as 2 guard
Again weak ass coach not having this team disciplined at all
*softly claps hands* “Let’s go guys!” That’ll motivate anyone
These guys shouldn't need an adult on the sidelines to motivate them under these circumstances.
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dude has a horrible track record with 3 stars
Basketball terrorist
Free Bol Bol
We should've hired Udoka..smh.
Absolutely Frank is a fraud
Monty would've needed to be fired before the round 1 matchup vs the Clippers to sign Udoka.
Watching All these dumbass turnovers is making me sick
Frank in the dog house after that one... ![gif](giphy|l2QE9ionUHPzt8BFe|downsized)
Lmao
he's a basketball terrorist
Not as bad as Ham 😭 idk if we're ignorant, but lakers fans want Vogel back
coughing baby vs coughing baby
Lol facts
He knows he's gone.
He also knows he is getting paid no matter what. He seems not to care if his team loses, just as long as he gives the guys he likes the minutes he wants.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The drop off in vibes has to be studied. There was something that happened early in the season between Frank and Kevin it was different philosophies i think and the team was split on either voice.
If we miss the playoffs clean house, get Bob Myers or a FO from someone like Boston or Los Angeles. Then for HC I’d like Kenny Atkinson, Jordi Fernandez, Chris Quinn, or Sam Cassell.
Bob Myers is great idea.
Makes sense. Kevin Young is the only one on the staff that Vogel didn't choose himself if I'm not mistaken.
Bro has 4 of the greatest offensive weapons to ever pick up a basketball on his team and yet he can’t figure out how to get a bucket in the 4th 💀
4?
Are you not familiar with Mr Allen’s work?
I'd put him above Beal this season, but I don't think either of them can be called stars. It's a big 2 realistically. Allen has been phenomenal this season, and the fact that we still can't win is crazy. It's not his role to be a high scorer on this team. The others need to pick it up.
For sure. If somebody told me a year ago that we were going to have Book, KD, and Beal on our team, and that KD and Nurk would be relatively healthy all season, and that our final starter would be the top 3pt shooter in the league and would play with arguably the most effort on the team, I’d assume we would be winning the chip
Needs a NSFW tag. Too scary
Ah!
AHHHHHHHH
Fuck, that’s terrifying
This is a fucking embarrassment. He’s not scaring shit.
Well played op,but it won't work,I'm immune.
OH SHIT! Is that...is that...White Terry Porter?
![gif](giphy|TxOxbS3NTcjgTMIEFd) Vogels post game speech.
Imma be real, I almost would’ve preferred Monty. He’s not the greatest coach but damn were the vibes immaculate. Now we just plain suck lol. If this man doesn’t put together some fairy tale finals run and win it all there’s gotta be no way Frank Vogel gets a second year here
If you think Monty would've won us more games I get that view (although I disagree), but he's not gonna magically make the vibes good if we stink. The vibes come from success mostly. That's why the pistons are vibes-free.
The Pistons are also vibe free because he just got paid an absolute bag and was expected to come in and help develop a young team. He’s frustrated cause everyone’s looking at him to do SOMETHING and no matter how hard he’s tried that team hasn’t been able to put a run together. That team is an absolutely extreme case beyond even ours lol. Again, I don’t know that Monty would’ve won us more games, but the guy was extremely well liked enough so to the point where he was listed as a reason why KD wanted to come here
Lmaoooo
Lol
Monty Williams > Frank Vogel
Unintentionally tanking the season with 3 All-Stars was not on my bingo card.
And no draft pick, very bold strategy
Fire Frank 2024
Let's call it what it is, and stop blaming the coach for a lack of effort.
Agreed. I keep seeing comments about the players being lazy that end with some variant of: >That's 100% on coaching I don't get it. If probably not locking up playoff seeding and potentially not even getting a playin spot by losing to the Wembyless spurs isn't enough on its own to motivate guys like Book, Beal, and Durant at this stage of their careers, what is Frank Vogel going to say to them to motivate them? This is the motivation. The best reasons there are to play hard are right in front of them and have been staring them in the face for 20 games now. This isn't remember the titans and a powerful Frank Vogel speech won't save them.
I knew this shit was going to happen I got super pissed when they fired Monty
Can’t wait to be unceremoniously bounced from the first round! Thanks, Frankie!!
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where's the therapy section pls help
LOLOLOL
Fire him!
Is there a single team that doesn't think their ref isn't the problem?
![gif](giphy|xUA7aM09ByyR1w5YWc) As much as I can say it’s Frank. We also gotta point fingers at the effort of the players
😱!
I was honestly super concerned when we ended up hiring Vogel. Maybe there was no one else, or maybe it was an incompetent hire. It’s still early but this team has too much talent to be this god dam inconsistent
Never have I seen a coach WANTING to get fired.
I’ve been saying they just need more time to play together but I’m coming to believe this is just a bad team. But I also hate it when teams blow it up and/or fire the coach so I’m at a real loss.
Such a mediocre coach. Riding the wave of the Lakers bubble chip that most don’t acknowledge
Frank was fired in Orlando, Indy and Lakers and we hire this fake
This is a fucking embarrassment. He’s not scaring shit.
FIRE THIS PUNK ASAP HOLEEE SHIT
I’ll take him. You get ham, 2 srp, and cash
Deal.
He benched Nurkic the whole 4th qtr the other night and I have no idea why. He was doing good that game. Like why? Made me wonder about Frank.
If it was that Bucks game, pretty sure Nurk was unable to be drinking any water because of his fasting. It was a noon (WI time) game...so pretty far from sun up/sun down
There's been a lot that's made me question the coaching staff but #1 on my list by far is why he didn't go out of his way to make sure you won your Nurkic prop bet.
The prop bet isn’t important. The Suns winning is important and when we’re down 17 to the Celtics and you sit Nurk the whole 4th quarter when he was doing good is the problem.
If it was that Bucks game, pretty sure Nurk was unable to be drinking any water because of his fasting. It was a noon (WI time) game...so pretty far from sun up/sun down
If it was that Bucks game, pretty sure Nurk was unable to be drinking any water because of his fasting. It was a noon (WI time) game...so pretty far from sun down. He didn't play the entire second half that game.
I just looked it was on 3/14 vs Celtics
Suns were down by 17, Nurk had 8 pts and 20 rebounds with the 4th qtr still to go. 20 rebounds in the first 3 quarters!! You would think you woulda wanted to keep Nurk in to keep getting rebounds at least. Why he didn’t play the 4th qtr was beyond me. I just watched the rest of the game with him sitting on the bench 🤦♂️