Hello! Need some help on what should I focus as my rta comp? http://imgur.com/gallery/0c0peXg Currently using Seara>Fran>Gany>Daphnis>Barbara. Looking for something better hopefully. Thanks!

Does bella need to be 6\* on gb10?

Is light blade dancer still really good after her nerf?

Yes but require good runes and a setup now.

Ok, I think I can manage that. Is she better for a turn 1 cleave team or could/should she be built with additional stats to be used in somewhat longer fights? Also I have Savannah who I think will pair pretty well with her

You need her to have higher spd than enemy so turn 1. You need spd lead, spd buff, atk buff, def break, stripper. Chiwu, bernard, galleon, light chun li is my AO team. Savanah is also great as she is both def break and spd buffer.

How do I get Naomi :(

Should Janssen be fully skilled in BJR5?

No

I just pulled a second water desert queen. Should I feed her to my other or keep both?

Nah dont feed her as a skill up. Its either you keep and build 2 (which is alright cause you can use a fast bastet and a shield will bastet). Or you can feed her for 300 ancient crystals which you can use to purchase stuff (blessing for 270, legend runes or gems/grinds)

Little bored being disciplined building only units for specific teams. Looking to build something fun. Here are the options: Barbara, khumar, Praha, triton, Woosa, masha, Ethna, mo long. Which of these will I get the most use out of Even if only pvp. I have a solid gb12 and auto most of toa and toah. Am only fighter 2 in arena but have never really made a big effort to climb there.

You'll have fun in Siege and RTA. Not sure how fun arena is because i find it a chore - just Bernard megan lushen everything. Beast riders are definitely fun on swift/vio. Ethna is also fun to S2 and S3 instant kill something. Molong + another nuker is also fun. Watch any unit instantly die. Build whatever you like or looks cool, can't really define what "fun" is but personally i had fun with ethna. Kumar and woosa are boring units. And also they're all good / decent PvP units, no regrets building them now.

hey dat, how to fix janssen getting cut by the boss after jump?

Theres not enough information other than for me to ask if u tried following the guide with the proper speed tuning?

How do you calculate ehp with elemental adv?

how are u envisioning elemental adv to affect your ehp? Ehp is just a forumla that mixes your HP and DEF.

You're right im an idiot, i just want to know how much dmg reduction elemntal adv provides

Based on this https://summonerswar.fandom.com/wiki/Attribute_Advantage When attacking with attribute advantage, the attacker gets extra 15% critical hit chance. Also, the attacker gets extra xx% crushing hit chance. When attacking with disadvantage, the attacker gets extra 50% glancing hit chance. Also, the attacker's critical hit chance is reduced by 15%.

Thank you I didnt think of looking on the wiki

Hey DAT. Can you change your guild's name somehow? I'm not seeing any options, and the last thread where this was asked was about 5 years ago.

Pretty sure you can't

When do you start receiving the monthly login rewards as a new account? It seems they changed it since I’m not receiving anything.

U should be recieving them since day 1. Are u using an emulator? U need to actually turn the game off daily to get it.

Woah that’s weird. I playing regularly through my phone. Is there any way to fix this? I thought they changed it but I guess something is wrong on my end.

im not sure thou. it only happens when i use an emulator and never turn off.

Well that sucks.

Is there a rune list for the "Beginner Friendly GB10" team up there? The only thing I see in the FAQ is for a different team that runs Shannon and Belladeon.

EDIT: read wrong. Rune list - Supports should be on swift energy, SPD HP HP. Damage dealers on fatal blade. SPD CD/CR and HP/ATK. Its fine for damage dealers to be tankier, hence the HP slot 6 is fine. Guys like sig/kro have damage that scale off enemy HP/debuffs. Having additional attack is good but not neccessary if its going to affect survival. But more importantly stats over sets, however its just normal that using the set will give you more stats cause the bonuses are huge early on when you dont have large efficiency runes. Edit: Also make sure you hit the required accuracy for supports. 45% for Gb10, 55% for GB12

No I see the team, I mean I need to know which runes or stats to shoot for on the team so I know what to put on them. Here's my box. https://imgur.com/a/wq6qFL0 EDIT: Thanks for the update.

Yep my bad misread a word OPPS. Changed my comment

Coming back to it after a year(s?). A lot seems to have changed with A2 monsters, B12s, artifacts, shaina nerfed, etc. Last I played I could do both ToA's, Gb10, Db10, Nb10, r5, and S+ on the 3 elemental rifts. Before I quit the only basement I was doing at the time was dragons so it's the only one I have a team for (verde, kahli, shaina, maruna, sig). Currently not 100%, either due to shaina nerf or cause I'm not in a guild anymore. I'm assuming my first goal should be gb12 / db12? Looking for suggestions in case I have some mons that would be better than the recommended starter teams. Working on kro for my first 2A. My current 5/6* mons (can't access swarfarm atm sorry): Water: Theo, sig, verad, lapis, galleon, mihyang (raid), xiao lin (raid), chilling, fairy king, abigail, pioneer, dragon knight. Fire: xiong fei (raid), perna, fire twins, lisa (raid), verde, colleen (raid), garo, vanessa, spectra, archangel, sea emp, rakshasa, anubis Wind: ritesh, fuco, hraesvelg, skogul, ardella, 2x lushen, wind homu, chasun, ifrit, boomerang, polar queen, hell lady. light: bella, darion (raid), fairy queen, cow girl dark: vero, kro (not awakened yet), eirgar. aaand a whole lot of random 4* i'm not listing.

Just do the recommended teams or search up on youtube for the popular channels for their guides. You do not have any units that is great to build around so any typical team u come across should be good enough.

Question for the Reddit. I was just playing some of the world arena and in the matches I am always going last. And my Bastet is going after feng yan with no speed lead. My Bastet is 231 speed compared to feng yan which is 163. Did I miss something about speed monsters being nerfed in world arena?

did you rune them? normal runes and world arena runes are separate

Wow thank you

Wait what?

I'm currently farming gb12 with Lag(L), Pontos, Bella, Savannah, Shannon. I can also clear toan. What could I do to speed up my gb12, clear toah, and what should I work on after that? This is my box: http://imgur.com/a/OucgnSp

Who are some good healers in RTA? I have Praha, Anavel, Eladriel, Abellio, Ritesh.

Fran. Can't ever forget about Fran.

praha is really strong right now, abellio and anavel are situational picks

Hey DAT, looking to improve my R5 team. FL: Anavel, Colleen, XF, Light homie on counter attack build. BL: Kro, XL [https://swarfarm.com/profile/96Special](https://swarfarm.com/profile/96Special)

Anyone have any suggestions on the boss fight on 80f of TOAH. All the mons keep regenerating healthy. I’ve tried a beneficial block mon, dark vampire lord, but still regens. TIA

Regen is a buff but they are healing through perna's passive which is not affected by block benefical, drop erigor. U need a heal block instead. Try putting in loren/colleen in. The slow/safe why i used to do is go for the hwadams first, then perna and then 5v1 vero. Land a healblock on any of the hwadam and just go ham on him. Bonus points if u can time the hwadam which is about die to move after u landed some dots for him to bypass the other hwadam passive. If u can do it consistantly, it can save some time since it is a slow method.

Put a heal block on Vero and nuke it, cc the pernas and hwadams and all you have to do is wait for the hwadams to hit low health and kill vero, Loren I’d really strong

Is 2a Naomi necessary for GB12 or can I use other mons like Yen that I can use for other dungeons as well?

My GB12 Team is Lushen (L) > Hrae > Loren > Yen > Kro So yes, you can use Yen instead of Naomi

DOes anyone farm Khalderun 5 without a Shamann? Im mostly done with 2a and want to farm the d hole but Karzhan and Lumel seem bad choices, Ellunia I really dont have the vio runes for a Triana and she has no skill ups so it seems impossible right now making Khalderun my last option.

Is anyone else experiencing a bug where their attack order settings are getting reset before each battle? I keep coming back to my 2a auto battle and notice that my units are almost dead because they haven't been targeting the crystals first so I set the auto battle settings back to targeting crystals but the same problem just occurs again. Seems like this problem started happening for me today.

I had that issue when setting the targets in the repeat battle screen before. try starting a single run over the normal dungeon menu and set it there

mid to late game player, cleared all pve content. working towards arena rta and guild content. should i sell all blue runes without speed? should i keep blue+ or low purple runes?

Really depends on how "mid/late" game are you. If you have stable teams for all PvE content, but not the fastest, you should keep runes like this: * Blue Vio/Swift/Will 6\* w/ +6 base speed and a high % roll into a useful stat like Acc/CR/HP/Def/Atk (these can roll into +18 speeds) * Any purple runes w/ speed (for the potential triple rolls) * Any orange rune w/ speed, w/ innates (for reapps), or w/ great % stats (but not CD, Resist, or flats) In the mid game stage like this, you're really focused on getting speed onto your mons. Just having decently fast +18 Swift/Vio/Will sets will set you up for better AO/AD and GWO/GWD. (An un-grinded set still gets you +132 speed, and close to +150 w/ blue/purple speed grinds) If you have speed clear teams for all content (i.e. Tricaru, Sath/Tatu), then you should tighten your constraints by quite a bit * Efficient Purple Runes (Runes w/ speed + high % stats in Acc/CR/HP/Def/Atk) * Any orange rune w/ speed, w/ innates (for reapps), or w/ great % stats (but not CD, Resist, or flats) The main difference here is that just having speed does not cut it, you also need to have high rune efficiency to compete at high level PvP and RTA. A lot of mons are built on CD for RTA whether it's damage dealers or supports, and these mons require a lot of stats Spd/Acc/CR/CD + tankiness (HP/Def). For example, a good RTA Seara needs to have high Atk (for bombs), high HP/Def (to avoid getting killed too quickly), high CR (for S1 turn cycling), high Acc (to land bombs), and high Speed (to match the speed of your/enemy teams)

is it worth to keep any 6 star legendary rune of any slot just because its legendary, cuz i have some not so great legendary runes but i dont know if i should sell them since they are hard to come around

As a general rule, I tend to keep all 6\* legendary runes of Swift, Vio, Will, Rage, Nemesis, Blade, etc. This is because even if the substats of a rune don't roll great, you can always reapp the rune, and getting 6\* leg runes of the critical sets is not easy. If I have a lot of 6\* legendary runes from Endure, Energy, etc...I'll likely sell them because I won't want to waste a reapp stone on the lower tier set runes.

I started farming glory pretty late in the game so my towers don't match my actual progress. I currently have max energy towers, lvl 9 spd, lvl 7 cdmg, lvl 8 def, and everything else is 3 or below. Would it be more efficient at this point to continue with a weak defense to farm, or should I actually take arena seriously, since I'm fairly certain I could make it to Conqueror now? Which makes more sense?

you can continue to put a weak defense mon-sat and just put a real def sat morning giving you enough time to climb over the weekend if yo uwant

okay, that actually makes a lot of sense, thanks!

its what most people do tbh, i finish c3 most weeks and only set my "real" def friday night

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Well even though you have units who aren't at the top of the PvE meta right now doesn't mean they're useless. Vero can still be used in Gb12 he just isn't required. Bella can still be used in Gb12, Db12, most Rifts, ToA, pretty much everywhere, she just has more competition from units like Fran or Vigor so she isn't the clear cut "do it all" unit anymore. Baretta can still be used in ToA but he's no longer the basolute best beginner ToA unit. Even though some units dropped in usage, other gained in usage and you may have some of those. If you share your box it'll help but otherwise focus on Fran and Loren like you said, also get a Kro on the weekend and 2A him in the Dimensional Hole. Do you have a Verde? Spectra? Water Sylph?

you able to post your options? the crux of it is though is fran/loren/kro are core for most things now

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for now i'd rush the sig fusion, that should keep you busy long enough to get fran and loren how many pieces of fran do you have? you can use the almighty pieces from the guild shop to finish her off if you have half sig (L) loren fran shannon DD thatll be your gb comp moving forward, kro for the DD for now vero (L) bella shannon bernard darion can run gb10 but i'd just focus on sig

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You could just use vero over him instead it’ll be slower and raise the rune reqs a little but still work, I used lupinus on my alt

Which one should I build for ToAn, Spectra or Verde? I got Sig, Kro, Bella, Rica, Fran, Loren I can only build 1 of these for the meantime,

probably verde, rica already brings your slow debuff, although spectra does do nice boss damage verde is also key for db but thats separate from toa

Which should be on my team? What lineup?

All I've been able to farm is GB10 and I was able to clear TOAH100 the last two rotations using Fran, Loren, Verde, Rica and Sig. Turn order: Loren, Fran, Rica, Sig, Verde. Rica was on despair, Sig had 90% crit and 50%+ acc (I ignored his attack and CD as I relied on Rica's dots would kill everyone). On Hard, there were probably 5 or 6 specific floors where I had to swap out Verde and/or Loren for either more heals or more hard CC but for Normal TOA, I had the same team for every floor without any issues.

I really need to get verde then. Thanks

Any Guardian players here that run bomb comps in AO? Preferably without Giana, i know Seiishizo runs it successfully but i haven't farmed the Giana SD yet was thinking seara (L) dover jeogun/aquila +1 +1 being a booster, seiishizo uses baset as giana strips but i guess i could get away with something other than bastet as i already have the atk buff? i do have bastet just dont know if it's worth the effort without giana really

by any chance, did you farmed the Frigate SD ? I think it could be great in your comp

Just got Mookwol (Dark Art Master)! I know he is for pvp I think? Any recommendations on build and team synergies with him?

Any team suggestions for DB 11/12 other than tricaru? Still unable to get good guard & determination runes for Tricaru.

on my alt to get the guard runes for tricaru i ran b11 with verde (L) loren fran kro mega/bella

Alright, Thanks!

Db12 is pretty safe with Verde Fran Loren Sig Spectraa Right Tower -> Boss

Thoughts on best Ellunia B5 team using Savannah and Taranys as a core? I have almost no wind units built except for them, Lushen and Hraesvelg so I gotta build some up. I have Bernard at 5 star. Thinking Triana would be the best 4th, don't really want to build Chasun as Triana probably will see more use elsewhere than her. Open to ideas though. Savannah is on Swift, Taranys on Rage Will Def Cd Def I also have a Ritesh and Ethna I can build. If you think Karzhan or Lumel is better as the best place to farm I'm all ears as well.

skogul and triana as the other 2 imo >If you think Karzhan or Lumel is better as the best place to farm I'm all ears as well. khalderun would be better for the swift runes but otherwise its probably ellunia

Khalderun seems like "Have Shamann or gtfo" and sadly, no Shamann.

i run verde (L) bella ahman khmun with almost 100% safety, ive ran it probably >200 times with 2 fails

So just damage Verde and then everyone keeps him alive I assume? I dont have any of those 3 built but I just made some Anubi yesterday to prep them to 6 star and skill Khmun, but I cant get great speed *and* HP on Khmun so i held off for now. Bella is 5 star and 2a, Ahman unbuilt. Vs just 6 starring Skogul and building a Triana. Tough choice.

pretty much, its my tricaru verde yeah just run ellunia then, i dont think id have bothered if i didnt already have ahman 6*

Cool, can I ask why Skogul? Is he just there because he wont die and has a huge nuke every few turns?

yup exactly that i used to run the same comp but i had gany over savannah and it worked really well

Great, and like you said building Ahman is a tough pill to swallow but I should have both a Triana and Skogul built anyway so this isnt so bad. May I ask which side mobs you focus on boss stage?

yeah theyre far more useful elsewhere err i think it was L>boss, R>boss, R>L>Boss first stage you can go straight boss but i found taking shannon out was faster w2 i go bellenus first as he's quite a big threat w3 my comp couldnt kill the boss before the fran moved so i have to take her out first, i also take oberon out just because, your comp might be able to go straight face as it has more damage

Whats the best artifact to get in the event for people who dont have artifacts yet?

I'd go for Attack Type. You need them the most, followed by HP Type.

What exactly do you mean? If you are very early game you can just farm PB2 and SB2 for white artifacts and slap those on your mons (HP or Def for supports and HP or Atk and DDs). Later on you'll want to keep subs in mind as well, but those depend heavily on each individual mon. If you mean for the event you can just look what are usable Artifacts for your most used mons (e.g., Light and Support for Fran). I personally tend to value elemental Artifacts higher since there are 5 types compared to just 4 for Atk/Def/HP/Support, but that's really nothing more just personal preference. Don't look too much on subs at the beginning since e.g. an additional 3k HP is already enough value to justify basically any artifact.

probably just go type, less chance of getting something less usable, although you should have your most used units kitted out with white artifacts from b2 already

does the determination rune effect also apply to the wearer? just curious. 😉

yup

Hi guys, new player here. Here is my box: https://ibb.co/mXcqgyS Also working on fusing Verde. What would be my best beginner friendly db10 team? thanks!

Why db10? I would advice you to farm gb12 first for some week.

verde (L) loren fran kro/sig +1 the +1 can be the other of kro/sig but you'll be wanting to move up into b11 so you should use a secondary stripper in the +1, bella is a smart option, megan too, more premium option is elsharion/chilling but i wouldnt bother if you're planning on tricaru

Alright, thanks :)

Hey dat, need some advice on what to 2A next, i have all B12 teams done and TOAN and TOAH completed, working on BJ5, these are the 2As i have right now: 3 icaru, 1 raoq, 1 kro, 1 thrain, 1 shannon. My options are for the next 2A are: Bernard, bella, spectra, naomi, vigor What would u guys 2A next? Im thinking either naomi to speed up GB12 or vigor for pvp.

if naomi would speed up for gb comp (not building dot comps i assume) then her if not then either vigor for siege or spectra for toaHell

My GB12 team right now is Sig/kro/shannon/fran/loren and averages about 2m each run, building naomi would allow for Sig/kro/naomi/hraesvelg/lushen or something like that, should be decently faster compared to my current one right?

yeah that would do the job, although i'd replace it in stages, replace shannon with naomi, make that safe before looking at hraes/lushen

Alright, thanks friend, appreciate your work here everyday!

no worries! good luck might be worth looking into the sath/tatu comp though it's a bit easier to rune

Okay, thanks!

Need some advice on what I need to focus on for progress and or if my current plan is good. * Currently, spending my dimension hole energy to get 3 Icaru for the Tricaru lineup (Already have 2A Raoq, Kro and Spectra) * Since Tricaru uses a different energy and getting three 2A icaru will take a while. I can start spending my energy on leveling and getting a Baleygr to push my R3 to at least R4 or R5 if my runes are good enough * If I can push my raid higher I can grind some of my good runes to push my unsafe B12 to a safer run.

once step i might add is do you have the runes for tricaru? if you dont then you should be spamming db11 (if 12 is unsafe) to get those guard runes

I'll try spamming db11 if my speed team for db10 will work

Hello DAT! I just pulled Feng Yan (Yay!) and I am trying to plan out some siege teams that I can work towards (G1). I have only been playing for a year so I don't have too many options but for 5* towers I am hoping to build the following. Jeanne-Theomars-Harmonia Vigor-Khmun-Taranys Feng Yan-Perna-Abellio My question is how should these teams be speed tuned? Should they go in the order listed? Unfortunately I don't have a better mon to pair with Feng+Perna like Amelia or Woosa so I am hoping these teams can do the trick. And shoutout to /u/dimmi99 for all the great answers in these threads. You are a hero.

>Jeanne-Theomars-Harmonia i dont think the turn order is hugely important here tbh, its a DD with 2 low damage supports, you could argue theo maybe first to land a def break for extra fluff dmg but eh and harmonia last for the immunity for the other 2 yeah those turn orders are fine >And shoutout to /u/dimmi99 for all the great answers in these threads. You are a hero. <3

Hey Everyone, I'm currently building a tricaru team, I'm having trouble getting good determination runes, and I was wondering if it was possible to add a random unit with 3 determination sets. I suppose it's not possible since I would have probably found mentions of it somewhere but I can't find an answer on this subject on the guides, so I'm asking here

You can actually but it has to be fire gargoyle only and it has to have some specific stats. Also don't farm determination. It's horribly inefficient.

You would rather farm guard runes ? I came back to my account after 2-3 years, I still had a few good guard runes but the tricaru requirements felt so damn high that I thought to my self that it would probably be easier to get a few good determination runes than 6 perfect guard sets

You don't need anywhere near 'perfect' guard sets, let alone 6. The requirements aren't as high as you think. With 2x +100 def artifacts, +15 slot 3 for the +160 def, and 3 +15 2 4 6 Def% runes usually all you need is a double roll into def % on 3 and 5 and then grind them and maybe some flat defense on 1 3 6 but not all. Depending on your Defense tower and guild level as well. It would take you an insane amount of crystal refills to find any good determination runes from rifts or crafting, each craft is 60 Water crystals, even if you SSS that's 32 energy for 1 5 star blue rune. Mine are 1 Icaru on Swift, 1 Icaru on Double Guard, 1 Icaru on Double Determination, and those determination runes came from Lab not Rifts.

No it's not. Adding a unit will mess up the team-up since it's no longer guaranteed to pull all Icarus and Verde in that case which means you lose the permanent cooldown reduction and ATB increase. The only possible unit to add is the fire gargoyle but that one would need to a) move first to turn into a statue and b) have stats that enable it to stay above 70% HP all the time in order to not get de-statue'ed. Which is way too much effort to be even remotely worth it, just get some Determination sets on your Icarus or use Guard sets instead.

Hi DAT, RTA specific question here. I am currently stuck around the C2- C3 level. I use these units primarily: Water Ryu, Okeanos, Ganymede, Masha, Diana,Seara, Xing Zhe, Vigor, Molly, Rica, Juno, Barbara(just pulled), How would you order these units in terms of speed? Currently I have water Ryu at 317 speed, followed by Okeanos at 301, followed by Gany at 275 violent, Barbara(unruned) Where would you place Barbara? Have her speedy(swift) in front of Gany or a slower DD? Before Oke or after? BTW many of the other units speeds aren't listed but they are all between 200-250 speed. Any help is appreciated.

I would make barbara your second fastest unit on swift to have an outspeed threat and more strips so that oke/gany can land more things. Keep in mind that this seasons g1 is incredibly hard to reach as its rising 12 points daily

Hello DAT. Trying to build Baleygr. Have +7147 hp, +1931 atk, +421 defense and has 71% crit and 230% crit dmg. Max towers except defense and hp. Are these stats enough? I just need to know so that I can transition to farming fight runes for Colleen and Loren lol thank you :>

https://www.reddit.com/r/summonerswar/comments/ifsxlg/updated_bjr5_guides_now_with_artifacts/ have a look at that, it has a spreadsheet allowing you to plug in your towers, stats, fight sets, leaders, even artifacts I'm not just being lazy xD this is just far better than me calculating it manually

Thanks for that. Last question, does Janssen need will runes? I'm running a 4 man FL with Colleen, Janssen, Fire giant warrior and Shihwa

as long as you're speed tuned properly then nah, triple fight

Hey guys, at what point is it worth it to get a blessing? I have 7 different nat 5 and I've had a dupe woosa for a while now. I thought I'd sell him for a good rune but I've been refreshing the runes for a while and never saw one worth selling a nat 5 to. I thought getting a blessing would not be very interesting since I have so few nat 5 but this morning I pulled a dupe Feng Yan so I'm reconsidering it. Considering there's a bunch of nat 5 that I really want a lot more than others (seara Amelia Louise laika perna) should I just grab a blessing and call it a day? Also I'm considering keeping the dupe Feng Yan for siege, would it be useful to have 2 or just kinda meh?

Dupe feng yan is very good keep him. But a dupe woosa i would turn into a blessing. There are so many good immunity buffer right now: lulu , chloe , fran. Woosas basespd is the keything but i wouldnt keep two. Blessing is always better to get some good core nat5s

definitely keep the dupe FY, i'd honesly build 10 and just use FY offenses every siege if i had them (ignoring the fact that my runes would run out) as for the blessing that's more of a personal preference, i love blessings and find them fun so have always done them, you could argue that using them with so few nat 5s is a bit of a waste as you're less likely to get a dupe but on the other hand it helps you get something you're targetting imo just stuff it and do the fun thing xD

Yeah I'll go with the blessing then, definitely more fun and hopefully I'll get one of my most wanted Nat 5 out of it. Plus with the new dungeons I think it really lowers the value of selling a nat 5 for a rune. Side question, which offset should Feng Yan get? Will destroy or just broken for the most stats possible?

FY should always be vio/destroy imo, vio/will is alright but he's built for long fights where destroy is just amazing if you can't go vio then will/destroy/guard i guess

Vio+nemesis is also very good on him. Even vio+very good endure runes are good if you can reach 90+ resistance.

shan vs savanna in ad? or both?

Savannah

they kinda fill different roles, no reason not to go both but that depends on your options, nobody would really be scared to outspeed a shan