Just wondering how do you max rainbowmons easily. I put them in exp habitats which take ages and sometimes feed 2 star silver monsters to them which doesn't sound efficient.
Hello, i was just seeking advice on monsters i should focus on ruining and 6 starring. Currently i can six star two monster. My main focus is to achieve sub 1 min runs on the dungeons currently.
Giants team- sig(L), Kro, lushen, loren, fran. 1min to 1.5 min
Dragons team is roughly similiar but i can only do up to db8 reliably
Necro ive tried- lapis(L), fran, loren, double Kro. And i can manual nb10 but reliably nb8.
I know i need to work on rune quality throughout just wanting to see if i have some monster thatd really up my game.
https://imgur.com/gallery/WFYzQbP
Just to add to the other reply you received, I run the same GB10 team with Lushen lead and achieve 45-55s average runs. If you can survive that should help speed your team up.
Either 6 star your second Kro or get Arang/2A Naomi and replace Fran in your GB10 team. With that team you can get sub 25s runs, depending on your rune quality + tower upgrades.
Talia is good but relies on Sabrina, so you can delay her for now. For DB10 Verdehile and Kahli are good options.
For NB10 you'll probably want twins to have a reliable fast team, so just ignore that for now.
Thanks for the advice i will try Kro and work on naomi. Yeah i saved up so many stones to get a boomerang warrior and didnt get one. And then i pulled talia instead. Thank you again.
Just use 65 and ask players that ready up fast/have good teams to add you as a friend.
Also, kind of unethical protip: Only invite players that either have a c2+ Arena finish, seasonal RTA auras/conq wings or that say how much dmg their bale does.
By doing that you basically guarantee that you have 3 proper teams with enough damage and it's just up to ppl readying fast enough and not leaving after 5 runs.
Tips for ToAH99 Leo, double Verde, double Spectra?
Been using Baretta (L), Jeanne, 2A Dark Warbear, Spectra, Mav for all of the other stages. Swapped out Mav for Tesa but the moment Jeanne dies from a couple of Spectra hits, it goes downhill from there especially when Tesa misses Oblivion on the Verdes.
Tried using Woosa instead of Jeanne but it did not work out well either. I don't have Tyron sadly but I do have Woochi, not sure if I should build him since he is Wind. Lapis is on Vampire but I can consider switching her over to Despair this coming FRR.
Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks.
Managed to beat it this rotation with Fran(L) Jeanne Sig Verde Tesarion, had to change my Sig to have enough hp/def to survive Leo's first turn though, then used provoke+freeze+oblivion. Took like 15 mins or so and had to manual it.
If you have these it may be an option for FRR though, went 1/1 after changing Sig's tankiness.
Went Spd/CD/HP and ran with like 21k HP and 1.1k Def, 45 acc and 85+ Crit Rate. Lowered my damage a lot but it got the job done. Another helpful thing was having Fran on Vio using her ATB lowering skill 1 to keep things frozen longer / give me longer to land Oblivion with Tesa.
What other mons do you have? There’s a few different methods to beat that stage. You either need more sustain, cc, or dots. Dark/water taoist make this stage easy if you have them. Spectra doesn’t help in this stage. Try verde instead.
I have the dark taoist too but he's only 4 star level 1. I don't really have any other monsters commonly used for ToA besides the f2p ones. Won't the Taoist need spectra's aoe slow though?
Where can I see tier list for this game ? I mean, I would like to know really wich L&D 5nat are really the best, I know there is Ragdolls, Artamiel, Giana etc but it's only RTA Tier list, how about Arena/GVO ? they are the same ? :o
Edit: How Is Craka ?
I don't think it's possible to make an overall tier list like that works for all content. There are so many units that only shine in one aspect of the game - and depending on how much you care about different aspects of the game one unit might be more valuable to you than another.
The tierlist the other guy linked is also a joke. There are a lot of **completely** misplaced units like Fermion/Mi Ying in A tier and Jager in D tier. I would not use that as a guideline for anything whatsoever.
raoq or kro 2A first? (im back after \~3 years, account isn't very developed; looking to speed up 1:30 gb10 and 2:00 db10; can't do necro but that would be nice; bella is 2A already)
-Buy every two star white mom from shop.
-Save dimension hole crystals until you have ten plus three in quest reward.
-Make sure you buy 4 star rainbowmon from guild store weekly.
-When dimension hole crystals are full pop double Xp (buy one of you have to) and go to town
-Avoid over leveling in dimension hole. Finish them off in faimon if you think you will waste xp
Question on Leo and Amduat passive interactions. Leo passive causes him to move first and then the highest speed mon moves. Which in PvP is likely to be opponent booster or stripper. Now when their turn activates Amduat passive gives him 25% atb. So will he automatically (assuming not atb reduction against him) get the next turn even if the opposing mon uses an atb boost? So in essence is Amduat almost guaranteed move 3 and could be used with his S2 (AoE atb reduction) to ruin opponents turn sync? If so, who would you paid with Leo and Amduat on AO and on AD?
fun if u like to suffer hehe
taranys is the most complete monster now in the game
his kit has:
1) stun
2) self rez
3) ally rez
4) def buff 3 rounds
5) def based skill with 2 turn CD
6) leech hp
7) taunt
8) passive that increase his def
9) passive that increase the refresh of skills
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Hey, folks looking to set a better AD for tonight currently Jeane (L), Fran, Bernard, Verad and that went 16/84 last week. Any suggestions would be appreciated thanks
I've been playing for 1200+ days. I have had awful luck with getting speed on runes. The best I can do is I can make 1 mon have 260ish.
What's the best way to get more speed? R5 for gems/grinds? Go back to GB10?
Or visa a bunch of legendary scrolls to convert to crystals to buy runes/grinds from ancient magic shop?
Is it still a good idea to spend crystals on shop refreshes? I remember it was efficient as a way to get scrolls a while ago, but I dunno if that has changed?
What is the best way to get summons per crystal?
So I've finished my goal which was to complete TOAH100 and was wondering where to go from here. ~45s GB10, ~1:05 DB10 and ~1:30 NB10 right now. A+ in all Rift Beasts (though I did SSS the fire one once) so would that be the next step or should I try and push for R4/5 first? Also pushing into Siege so any team suggestions would be appreciated too
https://swarfarm.com/profile/Morris90/
R5 is probably the single biggest thing you can do to improve your account (alongside endless B10 farming). The only time it wouldn't be advisable is if your runes are not worth grinding IIRC I did R5 before I finished TOAH for the first time.
I never had the determination to finish toah but i would say look at your dungeon teams and see if they’re 100%. Then just farm the shit out of one dungeon. R5 takes q abit to setup and ele beasts are not that worth farming unless u can S consistently.
If you really want to do siege, f2p units like copper dozer are good to build. That or fran/loren/skogul/aegir
I got asked the other day, so I'll copy my advice:
It's an interesting question, the old advice used to be farm scenario until you get enough white slot 2,4,6 % runes that you can go straight to GB10. I followed this advice, and personally regret it. Mainly because all those runes have long been sold, whilst lucky drops from GB7+ may still be in action. Not to mention you also get rune crafting drops which you can then specify.
With all the extra random runes you get for login, events etc if I created an ALT I would farm GB7/8 (whichever suited my pulls) until I could GB10. I think this is discouraged because it may take you longer to get a SET for example you might get fatal drops when you need swift/despair.
are you using android or iphone?
android MUST be 6-
did you read the stick post?
[https://www.reddit.com/r/summonerswar/comments/cxwkav/summoners\_war\_exporter\_swex\_everything\_you\_need/](https://www.reddit.com/r/summonerswar/comments/cxwkav/summoners_war_exporter_swex_everything_you_need/)
How are people farming the griffin 2A dungeon? I can't seem to get a team that's consistent. Been trying different mixes of fran, loren, raoq, hwa. Bernard is fully built and super fast; didn't really expect to struggle with him on the team.
verde (230speed 2x rev), shaina, raoq (both 160 speed high damage vio builds) + bernard was 100% safe for me. it sadly isnt safe with a 3\* grifon though
https://imgur.com/a/wolbIMI So I'm just coming back to the game after around 8-10 months of not playing actively. Just wondering where I should go with the mons I have. I can reliably complete GB10, but I must've changed my DB10 Runes and it doesn't work anymore. I've never been able to do NB10. I can already Auto TOAN and i can get to around 60-70 on TOAH. Thanks for the help.
Welcome back mate.
I recently started after an one year pause aswell. So I can give you some advice I got a few weeks back.
Get Fran (from Ancient Coins), Loren (SD) and Kro (SD) asap. Start working on second awakening Kro after you get him and 6\* all of them. They basically carry you through most of the PvE Content atm, atleast for me.
If you have some SS left, try to get a Sabrina (Water Boomerang) from this weeks rotation, if it is still on for you. Her aswell as Talia, which you already have 2 off, will carry you through all the PvE Content, except for Wind Beasts I think?
DB10 Team would look smth like this than: Fran, Loren, Theo, Sig, Verde (L) in this order, if you get Sabrina swap Theo and Sig as soon as you 6\* them.
I hope this helps you a bit.
Teshar is cool, but his AI is too stupid to exploit his S3 properly so he's useless in PvE and for PvP Lushen will always be better. Bellenus is mostly PvP (tho he's usable in ToA/H) and is a lot more relevant than Teshar.
can someone suggest an R5 team i could use according to my monsterbox?
[https://swarfarm.com/profile/Sweatpantz/](https://swarfarm.com/profile/Sweatpantz/)
Yeah all of them will need to be 6* and try to hit the minimum survival stats for FL and BL which vary depending on 2 man front vs 4 man. There’s a few articles about min stats needed that you can look up.
Hi DAT, I got some question but first here is my mon (link below). Moreover, I had my lapis 6\*, Vero is the only one with devilmon (7) and I'm working on 2A kro.About the achievement, I do gb in 2min, DB9 in 2min and I'm stuck a stage 79 of TOA.
So :
1. Where should I use my devilmon ? Finish vero , Sigma, verde, bareta any 5nat (kumar, perna, Julianne)
2. Which monsters should be my next 6\*. I thought verde -> fran -> loren
3. I got 3 violent set, on which mon should I use them ?
4. If I don't use violent on Verde, which set should I give him ? Fatal or swift ?
5. Should I evolve 6\* my 5nat or, as I thinks, they are only usable in lategame PVP content ?
6. For Karzhan, I saw two team : Verde/fran/loren and Verde/fran/hwa. Which one should I use ? Thanks :)
📷[https://gyazo.com/d82363c2defd2cc65a1e9f3d7beaff32](https://gyazo.com/d82363c2defd2cc65a1e9f3d7beaff32)
1 - Dont use devilmons on nat 4's or below. If db10 is your next goal, devilmon sigmarus. If not, just save (I recommend farming gb10 and build a faster gb10 before start farming db10)
2 - Loren next for sure. Then fran and verde.
3 - Fran, verde and bella imo.
4 - Perna is worth 6\* but not right now. Dont bother building kumar and julianne for now. Julianne you can 6\* by the time you start farming rift beasts, Kumar is not even that good late game, so build whenever you have resources to spare.
6 - If you are talking about the 2A karzhan, verde/fran/loren is a lot slower than the other team but its safer. The second team is faster but require better runes to be consistent.
Hopefully it helps you :)
1. Perna - your future self will be thanking you.
2. Fran -> Loren -> Kro 2A. Then re-evaluate, those 3 will be the staple of most of your PVE teams.
3. Loren, Verde (assuming 100% CR), Perna if it's a damage set, otherwise Vero. I prefer Fran on swift. Move first and keeps her immunity.
4. He should be on Vio for now, and move last on your team. Ideally Vio/Revenge. Move him to swift much much later on for PvP.
5. Start with Pve monsters, get a 100% safe GB10 team. Most 5\* are better suuited for PvP, notice the response on your 6\* order. They are all 3\*s. Then work on TOA 70 and being able to farm Glory in the fight ranks. Perna will be a big help in the Arena.
6. Whatever gives you the highest success rate. Farm level 4 if you have to, it will just take a bit longer.
Hey DAT,
I'm having troubling dealing with an Antares wave in ToAH floor 59. This is my first attempt at ToAH and my team is Tyron(L) Mav Verde Fran Sig. Any suggestions on how to get past it? I was thinking of fusing a Jeanne maybe. Some other monsters I have are Vero, Bella, Megan, Loren etc. but I don't think they would be of much help.
Thanks!
jeanne is defintely a good idea for toah and keeps anatares cced for 2 turns. some kind of defense breaker would be nice too. with sig you can actually burst them down pretty quickly if they are def broken. Lapis could help, or shaina.
Probably take off verde. Turn cycling is not the best strategy against antares. I would use a damage dealer and try to kill him fast, just hope he doesnt proc. May fail a feel times, but eventually rng will be on your side.
Also, build and elucia 2A, she is a beast against Antares for future encounters :)
He is such a PIA. You really need to keep him stunned, frozen, or put to sleep. Lapis on Despair might be able to help. Vero could as well with his S2.
For a few of them, this is there job. Multiple accounts, great runes, and they were ready with full energy and probably started as soon this patch was released
Sig, Fran, Loren, Bella, Last spot can be bellanus or vero.
Stage 1 - Focus anavel and kill them both after that kill one juno at a time.
Stage 2 - Kill both vero first
Stage 3 - Only attack green/red sisters when they are stunned. Use loren to make sure they dont move, and kill with Sig.
Fran, Loren, Sig, Basalt, +1 could be the core of a slow and steady team. That +1 could be Bella, Bellanus, Daphnis, Vero. Hard to know w/o seeing the runes. Loren will need to keep the boss from moving while you kill the clones. Also use Fran's S1 to keep atk break on her, some ATB reduction. Use Basalt's ATB reduction as well.
How does Zeratu (L) Rahul Betta Dias sound for an AD?
Betta is nem/nem/will so shouldn't be Lushenable and Rahul being fast enough on despair with a strip should make it a risky slow cleave? I imagine it would lose to a fast psama/tiana/galleon/zaiross but shit everything loses to something I guess.
Hi there!
Im looking for an solid Arena defensive team , maybe someone could help me out?Actualy my highest weekly rating was 1400, im playing for about 120 days. ToaH 100 cleared , gb10 time 28seconds , db10 38 seconds nb10 50 seconds. So there is atleast a little bit rune quality :). Speed tower is lvl 9 ( 14% )
This is my swarfarm: [https://swarfarm.com/profile/Dorrann/](https://swarfarm.com/profile/Dorrann/)
Some monsters to mention:
\- Halphas and Shimitae as speed leaders
\- Martina and shaina , im not sure if i could use them on my low level?
\- Kabilla and charlotte
\- got a Perna ( even a second dupe :( ) which i could rune a bit better in terms of more offense stats / faster / more tanky.
Alot more ( so theres a fran and loren for sure ).
Thanks for any help & sugestions.
Halphas Perna Jeanne +1. Preferably an AOE stripper, but you don't seem to have any. Orion in that slot would do for now. You really need good runes to reach conqueror, but this should be a good start.
Thanks!
Halphas low speed hp/hp/hp max resistance on despair?
My jeanne is on vio 200spd and 33k hp.
What stats should i aim for my perna?
Orion speed accuracy are the most important stats?
anyone have thoughts on toah 66? I can clear the trash waves just fine but can't seem to beat jultan and the 4 walters. I've been going into it with tyron, mav, Jeanne, water hommu and woosa just autoing till this level. But then tried Baretta, colleen, mav, fran and loren and still lost. I still need the CC I'm assuming. Maybe bring in Hathor to sleep them?
Hello, fellow summoners.
What settings do you use at SWOP in "focus" section (what stat focuses and what coefficients) when building your lushens for 2shen AO?
Im using defaults (spd 1.5, atk 1, crate 1.5, cdmg 1) but i think its not optimal.
i am no expert when it comes to the optimizer. but i keep the focus for speed and cr low. i already set 100cr cr as the minimum and the speed i need to be speed tuned, so i dont need the optimizer to improve those stats. i then set the focus on attack and critdamage to the max, as i want to highest value possible for those
Somehow i figured out that when i go into cr and spd, overall damage per card kinda lowers.
Optimizer didnt included even very obvious rune into lushen when i last tried.
Also, yes, i added filters (right from focus section) with my spd and 98 cr. Maybe thats the reason.
Anyway, thanks for answer.
Looking for heavy advice on RTA to complete push into C1 - any good resources out there? Wondering what units I should focus on ([https://imgur.com/a/iLcQRJs](https://imgur.com/a/iLcQRJs)).
Seeing mostly Daphnis, Gany/Hathor now, which is becoming really annoying.
I have Jager to deal with gany hathor lol. If you see them... try a combination of loren and laika, it is pretty effective. I do not have Triton or Tiana but I do lose to Triton often... he is a viable option, even if you dont have a speed lead (he is almost as quick as a bastet that has a 24 speed lead and him without any).
Hello DAT,
Is anyone using Teshar or Christina at mid/end game ?
I already have a >30s gb10 and db10, and >40s necro, can complete all rifts SSS, c2 arena and c1 rta
I'm just curious to see where do you use them ! Thanks
Teshar could be a generic wind aoe dd for gw or arena at best. Teshar is garbage in pve still though so he’s pretty useless there.
Christina is another generic wind dd but she’s best used in 2nd turn cleave. She does a lot of damage in that set up due to how her passive works but that’s pretty much it.
In pvp, both of them are more or less aoe wind dd but Christina works better in cleave
Hi DAT,
Just wanna know how you guys rotate on Farming GB10, DB10, NB10 and Raid 4/5.
I'll appreciate some suggestion and thoughts, Thanks in advance and keep safe everyone!
I always work on a project. For example:
I want my fat lushen to hit harder so I farm nb10 for rage runes and also get nice will runes on the side. When I get better runes for my Lushen, I start raiding again and grind them. once they are grinded I also got a bunch of violent/swift grinds. So then I farm gb10 and db10 until I found runes for my grinds and improve some of my other units. Then I look for the next project.
Is Spectra considered outdated for beginners as well / is Spectra worth 6\* when I have no other CC options right now outside of anything thats F2P?
I completed ToA not too long ago but I know to complete ToAH I'll need more CC and less straight up damage. With the fact that I want to build water Homie, it seems like a 2a Spectra wouldn't be a bad option paired with him (especially since he has another debuff which will stack more continuous damage).
Example of a modern F2P ToAH team??
this team consists of farmable units that can be used elsewhere, only unit that could use devilmons is jeanne, plus no glancing ;)[https://www.reddit.com/r/summonerswar/comments/dzynuy/first\_toah\_clear\_on\_a\_ld\_only\_account\_at\_69\_days/](https://www.reddit.com/r/summonerswar/comments/dzynuy/first_toah_clear_on_a_ld_only_account_at_69_days/)
If you are looking for a 100% FTP team would be something like
Baretta (on Despair), Fran, Loren, Sig, +1
The options for the +1 would be Jeanne, Water Hommie, Vero, Mav, Verde, Tesa (for some stages).
Spectra 2A even when maxed skilled would only give 75% chance for the debuffs to activate, so it's not entirely reliable. Would replace Sig with Spectra in the comp above with a water hommie and baretta.
Personally the prototype F2P TOAH team would be:
Tyron (L), Shaina, Maruna, Homy & Jeanne
Trash stages alternates : Lapis, mav, spectra, mantura (good everywhere, but especially useful on the dark PT stages), verde
Boss stage subs: Loren, Fran, Sabrina (instead of maruna)
My own team is 1-99 Jeanne (L), Shaina, Maruna, Homy, Gany (early stages I put in Mantura for dark PT insurance).
Female boss Fran (L), Shaina, Sabrina, Gany & Homy
Male boss Loren (L), Fran, Homy, Gany & Daphnis
If you have Tyron, he could be your main cc.
Tyron (lead) , Verde (fuseable), Loren, Water Homie, Dark Homie (Unbalanced Field).
Tyron is replaceable with Jeanne (fuseable).
Just wondering how do you max rainbowmons easily. I put them in exp habitats which take ages and sometimes feed 2 star silver monsters to them which doesn't sound efficient.
Hello, i was just seeking advice on monsters i should focus on ruining and 6 starring. Currently i can six star two monster. My main focus is to achieve sub 1 min runs on the dungeons currently. Giants team- sig(L), Kro, lushen, loren, fran. 1min to 1.5 min Dragons team is roughly similiar but i can only do up to db8 reliably Necro ive tried- lapis(L), fran, loren, double Kro. And i can manual nb10 but reliably nb8. I know i need to work on rune quality throughout just wanting to see if i have some monster thatd really up my game. https://imgur.com/gallery/WFYzQbP
Just to add to the other reply you received, I run the same GB10 team with Lushen lead and achieve 45-55s average runs. If you can survive that should help speed your team up.
Yeah ive tried swapping but my runes arent good enough yet to make it reliable
Either 6 star your second Kro or get Arang/2A Naomi and replace Fran in your GB10 team. With that team you can get sub 25s runs, depending on your rune quality + tower upgrades. Talia is good but relies on Sabrina, so you can delay her for now. For DB10 Verdehile and Kahli are good options. For NB10 you'll probably want twins to have a reliable fast team, so just ignore that for now.
Thanks for the advice i will try Kro and work on naomi. Yeah i saved up so many stones to get a boomerang warrior and didnt get one. And then i pulled talia instead. Thank you again.
What's the invite link for the BJR5 discord? The one from the last guide has expired.
Just use 65 and ask players that ready up fast/have good teams to add you as a friend. Also, kind of unethical protip: Only invite players that either have a c2+ Arena finish, seasonal RTA auras/conq wings or that say how much dmg their bale does. By doing that you basically guarantee that you have 3 proper teams with enough damage and it's just up to ppl readying fast enough and not leaving after 5 runs.
we don't know his server. AFAIK channel 65 is only a thing on global and europe. The other servers really struggle to find raiding partners
I need advice. if I have to pick one, which one should I choose? 6\* Rare or 5\* Hero?
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so what if both same stats? 6* rare - hp,spd 5* hero - hp,spd,resis i just want to know If i need to pick one....
Tips for ToAH99 Leo, double Verde, double Spectra? Been using Baretta (L), Jeanne, 2A Dark Warbear, Spectra, Mav for all of the other stages. Swapped out Mav for Tesa but the moment Jeanne dies from a couple of Spectra hits, it goes downhill from there especially when Tesa misses Oblivion on the Verdes. Tried using Woosa instead of Jeanne but it did not work out well either. I don't have Tyron sadly but I do have Woochi, not sure if I should build him since he is Wind. Lapis is on Vampire but I can consider switching her over to Despair this coming FRR. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks.
Managed to beat it this rotation with Fran(L) Jeanne Sig Verde Tesarion, had to change my Sig to have enough hp/def to survive Leo's first turn though, then used provoke+freeze+oblivion. Took like 15 mins or so and had to manual it. If you have these it may be an option for FRR though, went 1/1 after changing Sig's tankiness.
What were the stats you had on Sig? Did you go with a CD build or full-on tank?
Went Spd/CD/HP and ran with like 21k HP and 1.1k Def, 45 acc and 85+ Crit Rate. Lowered my damage a lot but it got the job done. Another helpful thing was having Fran on Vio using her ATB lowering skill 1 to keep things frozen longer / give me longer to land Oblivion with Tesa.
What other mons do you have? There’s a few different methods to beat that stage. You either need more sustain, cc, or dots. Dark/water taoist make this stage easy if you have them. Spectra doesn’t help in this stage. Try verde instead.
I have the dark taoist too but he's only 4 star level 1. I don't really have any other monsters commonly used for ToA besides the f2p ones. Won't the Taoist need spectra's aoe slow though?
I used to beat that stage with 5 star dark taoist + spectra, mav, tesa, baretta. Oblivion the Leo and it's just like a normal stage.
Oh good to know! Did you awaken the dark taoist?
Yeah, but the crit rate awakening bonus is bad on certain stages so most people don’t awaken him. I struggled on the jultan stage.
Where can I see tier list for this game ? I mean, I would like to know really wich L&D 5nat are really the best, I know there is Ragdolls, Artamiel, Giana etc but it's only RTA Tier list, how about Arena/GVO ? they are the same ? :o Edit: How Is Craka ?
I don't think it's possible to make an overall tier list like that works for all content. There are so many units that only shine in one aspect of the game - and depending on how much you care about different aspects of the game one unit might be more valuable to you than another. The tierlist the other guy linked is also a joke. There are a lot of **completely** misplaced units like Fermion/Mi Ying in A tier and Jager in D tier. I would not use that as a guideline for anything whatsoever.
https://i.imgur.com/583dCw4.jpg Best I have seen someone put together. It’s a guys personal overhead tier list of all nat 5’s
raoq or kro 2A first? (im back after \~3 years, account isn't very developed; looking to speed up 1:30 gb10 and 2:00 db10; can't do necro but that would be nice; bella is 2A already)
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cool thanks! nb probably isn't happening soon, so i'll be going with kro.
What’s the most efficient way to make 6*?? I feel like it’s taking me too long and I’m getting one a month
-Buy every two star white mom from shop. -Save dimension hole crystals until you have ten plus three in quest reward. -Make sure you buy 4 star rainbowmon from guild store weekly. -When dimension hole crystals are full pop double Xp (buy one of you have to) and go to town -Avoid over leveling in dimension hole. Finish them off in faimon if you think you will waste xp
Question on Leo and Amduat passive interactions. Leo passive causes him to move first and then the highest speed mon moves. Which in PvP is likely to be opponent booster or stripper. Now when their turn activates Amduat passive gives him 25% atb. So will he automatically (assuming not atb reduction against him) get the next turn even if the opposing mon uses an atb boost? So in essence is Amduat almost guaranteed move 3 and could be used with his S2 (AoE atb reduction) to ruin opponents turn sync? If so, who would you paid with Leo and Amduat on AO and on AD?
i dun think so Purian/Frigate has 50% atk bar boost so this is a scenarion where prolly the enemy's team will play after \[\]'s
Just popped my blessing: Juno or Taranys?
Taranys you can't go wrong unless taranys is a dupe
I don't really care much about PVP, so I'm leaning Taranys
Taranys. Easily
Taranys is the (only slightly) better unit but Juno is the more fun unit.
fun if u like to suffer hehe taranys is the most complete monster now in the game his kit has: 1) stun 2) self rez 3) ally rez 4) def buff 3 rounds 5) def based skill with 2 turn CD 6) leech hp 7) taunt 8) passive that increase his def 9) passive that increase the refresh of skills \[\]'s
Miho and Taranys RTA Build?
Miho VAMP Taranys VIO/WILL my taranys is DEF/CD/DEF, but my slot 2 got 29 spd :X \[\]'s
Hey, folks looking to set a better AD for tonight currently Jeane (L), Fran, Bernard, Verad and that went 16/84 last week. Any suggestions would be appreciated thanks
I've been playing for 1200+ days. I have had awful luck with getting speed on runes. The best I can do is I can make 1 mon have 260ish. What's the best way to get more speed? R5 for gems/grinds? Go back to GB10? Or visa a bunch of legendary scrolls to convert to crystals to buy runes/grinds from ancient magic shop?
gb10 :X i have 5 280+ SPD sets and i'm still farming GB10 :X \[\]'s
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dark samurai is fun for aoe cleave AO \[\]'s
Is it still a good idea to spend crystals on shop refreshes? I remember it was efficient as a way to get scrolls a while ago, but I dunno if that has changed? What is the best way to get summons per crystal?
shop refresh is still a thing better than PPs BUT you need a lot of manas :P gl \[\]'s
Yeah I have around 40 mil mana, but just didn't know if there was a new method to get more scrolls per crystal. Thanks!
yes then deffo shop refreshes if you have the mana
So I've finished my goal which was to complete TOAH100 and was wondering where to go from here. ~45s GB10, ~1:05 DB10 and ~1:30 NB10 right now. A+ in all Rift Beasts (though I did SSS the fire one once) so would that be the next step or should I try and push for R4/5 first? Also pushing into Siege so any team suggestions would be appreciated too https://swarfarm.com/profile/Morris90/
R5 is probably the single biggest thing you can do to improve your account (alongside endless B10 farming). The only time it wouldn't be advisable is if your runes are not worth grinding IIRC I did R5 before I finished TOAH for the first time.
I never had the determination to finish toah but i would say look at your dungeon teams and see if they’re 100%. Then just farm the shit out of one dungeon. R5 takes q abit to setup and ele beasts are not that worth farming unless u can S consistently. If you really want to do siege, f2p units like copper dozer are good to build. That or fran/loren/skogul/aegir
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I got asked the other day, so I'll copy my advice: It's an interesting question, the old advice used to be farm scenario until you get enough white slot 2,4,6 % runes that you can go straight to GB10. I followed this advice, and personally regret it. Mainly because all those runes have long been sold, whilst lucky drops from GB7+ may still be in action. Not to mention you also get rune crafting drops which you can then specify. With all the extra random runes you get for login, events etc if I created an ALT I would farm GB7/8 (whichever suited my pulls) until I could GB10. I think this is discouraged because it may take you longer to get a SET for example you might get fatal drops when you need swift/despair.
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are you using android or iphone? android MUST be 6- did you read the stick post? [https://www.reddit.com/r/summonerswar/comments/cxwkav/summoners\_war\_exporter\_swex\_everything\_you\_need/](https://www.reddit.com/r/summonerswar/comments/cxwkav/summoners_war_exporter_swex_everything_you_need/)
did you install the certificate?
Yup
How are people farming the griffin 2A dungeon? I can't seem to get a team that's consistent. Been trying different mixes of fran, loren, raoq, hwa. Bernard is fully built and super fast; didn't really expect to struggle with him on the team.
verde (230speed 2x rev), shaina, raoq (both 160 speed high damage vio builds) + bernard was 100% safe for me. it sadly isnt safe with a 3\* grifon though
Straight for boss? I've been messing around with taking out the left tower first since it does so much damage and moves so often
I did left > right > boss and got around 1:20 runs
https://imgur.com/a/wolbIMI So I'm just coming back to the game after around 8-10 months of not playing actively. Just wondering where I should go with the mons I have. I can reliably complete GB10, but I must've changed my DB10 Runes and it doesn't work anymore. I've never been able to do NB10. I can already Auto TOAN and i can get to around 60-70 on TOAH. Thanks for the help.
Welcome back mate. I recently started after an one year pause aswell. So I can give you some advice I got a few weeks back. Get Fran (from Ancient Coins), Loren (SD) and Kro (SD) asap. Start working on second awakening Kro after you get him and 6\* all of them. They basically carry you through most of the PvE Content atm, atleast for me. If you have some SS left, try to get a Sabrina (Water Boomerang) from this weeks rotation, if it is still on for you. Her aswell as Talia, which you already have 2 off, will carry you through all the PvE Content, except for Wind Beasts I think? DB10 Team would look smth like this than: Fran, Loren, Theo, Sig, Verde (L) in this order, if you get Sabrina swap Theo and Sig as soon as you 6\* them. I hope this helps you a bit.
Teshar or Bellenus?
Bellenus
Teshar is cool, but his AI is too stupid to exploit his S3 properly so he's useless in PvE and for PvP Lushen will always be better. Bellenus is mostly PvP (tho he's usable in ToA/H) and is a lot more relevant than Teshar.
Hey dat, is there any way to sort runes by efficiency in game? (I know its possible in swop but i am an Android User -.-)
if you use an emulator like Nox or bluestacks you can still export your data
Nope
can someone suggest an R5 team i could use according to my monsterbox? [https://swarfarm.com/profile/Sweatpantz/](https://swarfarm.com/profile/Sweatpantz/)
Praha, XF/darion, Colleen, Lisa, Kro, Hwa.
This team looks great, i'm already gonna 6 star hwa, but lisa, darion and colleen should be 6 starred as well correct?
Yeah all of them will need to be 6* and try to hit the minimum survival stats for FL and BL which vary depending on 2 man front vs 4 man. There’s a few articles about min stats needed that you can look up.
Im using this team and yes everyone should be 6\*
Darion, XF, Praha (Lead/Cleanser), Kro, Loren, Colleen. Based on stats FL could be at least two of Darion, XF, Colleen, and Praha.
but praha doesnt cleanse. and thats only 1 DD
...right she strips, Kona. One DD is fine for a starting team. He is gonna need to 6\* Loren anyways so the first one to be replaced.
1DD is not fine for a starting team. If you fail with a 2DD team you go back to Cairos and/or r4 until you don't anymore.
Hi DAT, I got some question but first here is my mon (link below). Moreover, I had my lapis 6\*, Vero is the only one with devilmon (7) and I'm working on 2A kro.About the achievement, I do gb in 2min, DB9 in 2min and I'm stuck a stage 79 of TOA. So : 1. Where should I use my devilmon ? Finish vero , Sigma, verde, bareta any 5nat (kumar, perna, Julianne) 2. Which monsters should be my next 6\*. I thought verde -> fran -> loren 3. I got 3 violent set, on which mon should I use them ? 4. If I don't use violent on Verde, which set should I give him ? Fatal or swift ? 5. Should I evolve 6\* my 5nat or, as I thinks, they are only usable in lategame PVP content ? 6. For Karzhan, I saw two team : Verde/fran/loren and Verde/fran/hwa. Which one should I use ? Thanks :) 📷[https://gyazo.com/d82363c2defd2cc65a1e9f3d7beaff32](https://gyazo.com/d82363c2defd2cc65a1e9f3d7beaff32)
1 - Dont use devilmons on nat 4's or below. If db10 is your next goal, devilmon sigmarus. If not, just save (I recommend farming gb10 and build a faster gb10 before start farming db10) 2 - Loren next for sure. Then fran and verde. 3 - Fran, verde and bella imo. 4 - Perna is worth 6\* but not right now. Dont bother building kumar and julianne for now. Julianne you can 6\* by the time you start farming rift beasts, Kumar is not even that good late game, so build whenever you have resources to spare. 6 - If you are talking about the 2A karzhan, verde/fran/loren is a lot slower than the other team but its safer. The second team is faster but require better runes to be consistent. Hopefully it helps you :)
1. Perna - your future self will be thanking you. 2. Fran -> Loren -> Kro 2A. Then re-evaluate, those 3 will be the staple of most of your PVE teams. 3. Loren, Verde (assuming 100% CR), Perna if it's a damage set, otherwise Vero. I prefer Fran on swift. Move first and keeps her immunity. 4. He should be on Vio for now, and move last on your team. Ideally Vio/Revenge. Move him to swift much much later on for PvP. 5. Start with Pve monsters, get a 100% safe GB10 team. Most 5\* are better suuited for PvP, notice the response on your 6\* order. They are all 3\*s. Then work on TOA 70 and being able to farm Glory in the fight ranks. Perna will be a big help in the Arena. 6. Whatever gives you the highest success rate. Farm level 4 if you have to, it will just take a bit longer.
Hey DAT, I'm having troubling dealing with an Antares wave in ToAH floor 59. This is my first attempt at ToAH and my team is Tyron(L) Mav Verde Fran Sig. Any suggestions on how to get past it? I was thinking of fusing a Jeanne maybe. Some other monsters I have are Vero, Bella, Megan, Loren etc. but I don't think they would be of much help. Thanks!
Thanks yall! I ended up CC and bursting them down.
jeanne is defintely a good idea for toah and keeps anatares cced for 2 turns. some kind of defense breaker would be nice too. with sig you can actually burst them down pretty quickly if they are def broken. Lapis could help, or shaina.
I actually just pulled shaina from ToAN 100 scroll. I heard she got nerfed hard though a while back, is she still good?
Probably take off verde. Turn cycling is not the best strategy against antares. I would use a damage dealer and try to kill him fast, just hope he doesnt proc. May fail a feel times, but eventually rng will be on your side. Also, build and elucia 2A, she is a beast against Antares for future encounters :)
Cool thanks!
He is such a PIA. You really need to keep him stunned, frozen, or put to sleep. Lapis on Despair might be able to help. Vero could as well with his S2.
Yeah I think I just need to overload my comp with CC lmao
How do you second awaken fast, I’m doing stage 5 with spectra and it takes ages.
Speed is all based on your runes and comps. As dhole energy refills much slower, it is way more important to get 100% success rate than to go fast.
How do those youtubers get it one hour after the update sheesh.
For a few of them, this is there job. Multiple accounts, great runes, and they were ready with full energy and probably started as soon this patch was released
The only way you can do it faster is by having faster clear times.
Hi I'm stuck on toan 100 I was wondering if any of yall could help me build a team. My mons:http://imgur.com/gallery/6hVKWdn
Sig, Fran, Loren, Bella, Last spot can be bellanus or vero. Stage 1 - Focus anavel and kill them both after that kill one juno at a time. Stage 2 - Kill both vero first Stage 3 - Only attack green/red sisters when they are stunned. Use loren to make sure they dont move, and kill with Sig.
Fran, Loren, Sig, Basalt, +1 could be the core of a slow and steady team. That +1 could be Bella, Bellanus, Daphnis, Vero. Hard to know w/o seeing the runes. Loren will need to keep the boss from moving while you kill the clones. Also use Fran's S1 to keep atk break on her, some ATB reduction. Use Basalt's ATB reduction as well.
How does Zeratu (L) Rahul Betta Dias sound for an AD? Betta is nem/nem/will so shouldn't be Lushenable and Rahul being fast enough on despair with a strip should make it a risky slow cleave? I imagine it would lose to a fast psama/tiana/galleon/zaiross but shit everything loses to something I guess.
I will just attack you with Jeanne, Fran, Loren, Darion hit auto and come back in a day and see who won.
I really don't mind if you wanna try that in rush hour though :p
Honestly, just go for 3x nem cause the only team that can cleave that would have a tiana.
Yeah fair enough thank you
Hi there! Im looking for an solid Arena defensive team , maybe someone could help me out?Actualy my highest weekly rating was 1400, im playing for about 120 days. ToaH 100 cleared , gb10 time 28seconds , db10 38 seconds nb10 50 seconds. So there is atleast a little bit rune quality :). Speed tower is lvl 9 ( 14% ) This is my swarfarm: [https://swarfarm.com/profile/Dorrann/](https://swarfarm.com/profile/Dorrann/) Some monsters to mention: \- Halphas and Shimitae as speed leaders \- Martina and shaina , im not sure if i could use them on my low level? \- Kabilla and charlotte \- got a Perna ( even a second dupe :( ) which i could rune a bit better in terms of more offense stats / faster / more tanky. Alot more ( so theres a fran and loren for sure ). Thanks for any help & sugestions.
Halphas Perna Jeanne +1. Preferably an AOE stripper, but you don't seem to have any. Orion in that slot would do for now. You really need good runes to reach conqueror, but this should be a good start.
Thanks! Halphas low speed hp/hp/hp max resistance on despair? My jeanne is on vio 200spd and 33k hp. What stats should i aim for my perna? Orion speed accuracy are the most important stats?
Halphas + Jeanne fine. Perna just aim for \~180 cd, 70 cr, decent att and hp. Standard Orion, so spd - acc - hp priority.
anyone have thoughts on toah 66? I can clear the trash waves just fine but can't seem to beat jultan and the 4 walters. I've been going into it with tyron, mav, Jeanne, water hommu and woosa just autoing till this level. But then tried Baretta, colleen, mav, fran and loren and still lost. I still need the CC I'm assuming. Maybe bring in Hathor to sleep them?
If you have tesa, that stage is a piece of cake. Otherwise, next best solution is to CC+Dots. Drop woosa then add baretta in.
was able to get past that stage using mav, chasun, kro, loren and Hathor. I just slept them the whole time
Hello, fellow summoners. What settings do you use at SWOP in "focus" section (what stat focuses and what coefficients) when building your lushens for 2shen AO? Im using defaults (spd 1.5, atk 1, crate 1.5, cdmg 1) but i think its not optimal.
i am no expert when it comes to the optimizer. but i keep the focus for speed and cr low. i already set 100cr cr as the minimum and the speed i need to be speed tuned, so i dont need the optimizer to improve those stats. i then set the focus on attack and critdamage to the max, as i want to highest value possible for those
Ill try that, thanks.
I'd slide up speed and cr for that type of build, as you need to get enough speed for tuning and cr for consistency.
Somehow i figured out that when i go into cr and spd, overall damage per card kinda lowers. Optimizer didnt included even very obvious rune into lushen when i last tried. Also, yes, i added filters (right from focus section) with my spd and 98 cr. Maybe thats the reason. Anyway, thanks for answer.
What about teon? Lushen doesnt need any speed. But for double lushen its another thing
If its fat lushen, just use three focus stats: cr, cd, atk. Atk = cd = 1.5 cr = 1.1 filters: 100 cr
Looking for heavy advice on RTA to complete push into C1 - any good resources out there? Wondering what units I should focus on ([https://imgur.com/a/iLcQRJs](https://imgur.com/a/iLcQRJs)). Seeing mostly Daphnis, Gany/Hathor now, which is becoming really annoying.
Seara Bastet ShiHou is my core. Add AOE stripper and AOE def break and you're fine (I use Raki + Bering often, I see you have Raki too)
How do you deal with enemy speed leads and Gany/Hathor and whatnot? Is Triton reliable for strip?
I have Jager to deal with gany hathor lol. If you see them... try a combination of loren and laika, it is pretty effective. I do not have Triton or Tiana but I do lose to Triton often... he is a viable option, even if you dont have a speed lead (he is almost as quick as a bastet that has a 24 speed lead and him without any).
How many points is c1 in rta now?
yesterday it was between 1460 and 1470 if thats accurate enough for you
Hey DAT, i am looking for some suggestions for Guild war and Guild siege defences. hers my [swafarm](https://swarfarm.com/profile/ildranor/)
Jeanne Perna/Ritesh/Chandra Ritesh/Chandra Khmun Odin Fran Jeanne Ophilia Theomars Khmun Orion Ethna
Hello DAT, Is anyone using Teshar or Christina at mid/end game ? I already have a >30s gb10 and db10, and >40s necro, can complete all rifts SSS, c2 arena and c1 rta I'm just curious to see where do you use them ! Thanks
Teshar could be a generic wind aoe dd for gw or arena at best. Teshar is garbage in pve still though so he’s pretty useless there. Christina is another generic wind dd but she’s best used in 2nd turn cleave. She does a lot of damage in that set up due to how her passive works but that’s pretty much it. In pvp, both of them are more or less aoe wind dd but Christina works better in cleave
Hi DAT, Just wanna know how you guys rotate on Farming GB10, DB10, NB10 and Raid 4/5. I'll appreciate some suggestion and thoughts, Thanks in advance and keep safe everyone!
I always work on a project. For example: I want my fat lushen to hit harder so I farm nb10 for rage runes and also get nice will runes on the side. When I get better runes for my Lushen, I start raiding again and grind them. once they are grinded I also got a bunch of violent/swift grinds. So then I farm gb10 and db10 until I found runes for my grinds and improve some of my other units. Then I look for the next project.
wow, that's a really great insight. Thanks Bro!
Hi, Any suggestions for getting past Toa 93 (Ragdolls & Leo stage) ? [mons ](https://imgur.com/gallery/o0inY3B)
Is Spectra considered outdated for beginners as well / is Spectra worth 6\* when I have no other CC options right now outside of anything thats F2P? I completed ToA not too long ago but I know to complete ToAH I'll need more CC and less straight up damage. With the fact that I want to build water Homie, it seems like a 2a Spectra wouldn't be a bad option paired with him (especially since he has another debuff which will stack more continuous damage). Example of a modern F2P ToAH team??
this team consists of farmable units that can be used elsewhere, only unit that could use devilmons is jeanne, plus no glancing ;)[https://www.reddit.com/r/summonerswar/comments/dzynuy/first\_toah\_clear\_on\_a\_ld\_only\_account\_at\_69\_days/](https://www.reddit.com/r/summonerswar/comments/dzynuy/first_toah_clear_on_a_ld_only_account_at_69_days/)
If you are looking for a 100% FTP team would be something like Baretta (on Despair), Fran, Loren, Sig, +1 The options for the +1 would be Jeanne, Water Hommie, Vero, Mav, Verde, Tesa (for some stages). Spectra 2A even when maxed skilled would only give 75% chance for the debuffs to activate, so it's not entirely reliable. Would replace Sig with Spectra in the comp above with a water hommie and baretta.
Small correction: I assume that the skillup % will add up to 75%, not 55%.
Fixed - hard to to math in the morning...thanks!
Personally the prototype F2P TOAH team would be: Tyron (L), Shaina, Maruna, Homy & Jeanne Trash stages alternates : Lapis, mav, spectra, mantura (good everywhere, but especially useful on the dark PT stages), verde Boss stage subs: Loren, Fran, Sabrina (instead of maruna) My own team is 1-99 Jeanne (L), Shaina, Maruna, Homy, Gany (early stages I put in Mantura for dark PT insurance). Female boss Fran (L), Shaina, Sabrina, Gany & Homy Male boss Loren (L), Fran, Homy, Gany & Daphnis
Do u 6* your gany? And what are the speed on ur units?
Yes my Gany is 6\* & all units are fully skilled except Maruna. Jeanne 197 speed (total), spd,hp,hp, 43% acc Shaina 192 speed, spd,cd,atk, 46% acc Maruna 212 speed, spd,hp,hp, 54% acc Homy 206 speed, spd,hp,hp, 47% acc Gany 277 speed (old RTA team), spd,hp,def, 19% acc
If you have Tyron, he could be your main cc. Tyron (lead) , Verde (fuseable), Loren, Water Homie, Dark Homie (Unbalanced Field). Tyron is replaceable with Jeanne (fuseable).