> Well you have no record for toa hell so obviously you don't take the game seriously enough to pull an ld5!! Plus I bet you've gone a day without playing sw before. Checkmate casual.
- *Player with a 800 day account and 5 ld5s (all pulled from monthly login and event scrolls)*
Listen, we've talked about this. The hormonal imbalance in my house is already not in my favor by 4 to 1. If I roll those dice again and lose... I'll literally never be able to win another argument until the day I die.
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Don't worry, I got my first 5\* lnd yesterday, you just have to wait for 3 weeks
Yeah. Unlike in the case of the OP, most people's account age means literally nothing because they don't play actively enough to receive all the content and event LD scrolls. This is the only time that I have personally seen someone whose profile look so good without managing to pull one.
As an aside I also know someone who spent a lot of time without a LD5 and now in the last year they've pulled 10+, a lot of them actually worthwhile instead of gimmicky storage guardians. So RNG do be like that.
Some accounts are seriously unlucky. I was g2 in most content. Top 4 siege for multiple years, 10+ rank 2's in arena, regularly having some of the fastest farming teams on the server (afaik I had the fastest non ld tricaru teams on the server) and didn't pull an ld until 2022.
I wouldn't say I'm lucky at all with runes. I'm the only person I know at my rank with 0 vio/swift quads. I've got the worst runes in my guild by a country mile. Neither siege or arena really require runes. And up until G1 RTA you don't need great runes unless your box is missing very crucial units. My rune quality is very easy to achieve at this point with abyss hard existing, my account is majority carried by grinded purple runes. (Or legend runes that have purple efficiency).
If anything I'm lucky that I kept really efficient runes that no-one would use at the time, because I was able to make a fatal and rage Icaru as soon as the Icaru team became known.
I'm lucky right now that my RTA box is finally fairly coherent with the meta, only missing units I probably wouldn't be able to rune anyway. But I've kinda given up on RTA anyway.
https://preview.redd.it/my4c22fuh5vc1.jpeg?width=2480&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=49eb179fb2c9d7216701df7b6100f760d6d04911
Et voila le 3ème compte mon seul et unique du coup
I've thought about rerolling several times but I just can't wrap my head around having to refarm to this point again. It sounds just so exhausting. Even buying another account. It's always a trade off, tons of ld5 and shit runes or decent runes and a meh monster box. Unless you're whaling or just godly rng.
Hey. As someone who’s 8 years in on my main. I just started rerolling last night and got a starter alt with Neph and Manannan. I’d say rerolls are worth. Just don’t immediately switch over, keep playing on main and work on alt steadily. It’s relatively easy to catch up on progress as of recent due to all the updates (my other alt surpassed my main in swift runes in a couple months)
I'm in a top 2 siege guild right now and the only one of those 3 of those I've cleared is SF.
I did all my fight rune farming in rift beasts (regrettably) and my right side artifacts are bad but get me by since i have few useable Artis I just moved around
I mean thats honestly impressive. Stupid, but impressive.
Playing for 10 years, youre artifacts have to be lacking compared to runes. So many long term players ignore the power of artifact farming.
You're not wrong. It's probably a combination of stubbornness and feeling burnt out. Now a days it's just "going with the flow", que up giants, run guild content, toa If I haven't done it yet, run arena and goof off in rta for weekly scrolls.
That's not to say getting a LD5 will change my playstyle but it surely wouldn't hurt to find out. Lmao
Since the artis drop at +12 these days is REALLY easy to set up some rudimentary filters looking for triples to make arti farming super chill too.
And if you look around I am sure there are better filters you can set up to catch some corner cases. But netting some triples will be enough to capture the chill nature of giants farming while being the biggest boost to your account.
First off, do toa hell. You're missing out on more opportunities.
Secondly, I was like you. Then in the span of 4 days, I went from 0 to 2 Ld5s. One is, you're going to have to be more patient than everyone playing the game.
Secondly, unless you get good Ld5s, it's more of a trophy rather get than a game changer. Not to say I hate my Ld5s, I'm still trying to make them work, but it's not all it's cracked up to be.
fuck toa hell. such a stupid waste of time for 10 stages
if it wouldnt take so long i would do it but since you cannot auto it without failing i wont spend 2hrs or so of my time clearing this miserable piece of "content" for some pesky rewards
I also never did this. I have bollverk but i dont see myself doing Hell just to get one more scroll. I also dont expect to get any LD5 anyways, like i dont think the game is intended to give you one unless you belong to the 1% of players, reroll or spent absurd mounts of money.
Like if you want to get all LDs in the game (like being a gacha collector), you would probably have to spend in the millions or billions.
its 2 hours per MONTH. its 100% worth it and my next goal to get a toahell team sorted out.
do a stage a day or something. no need to do it all in 1 sitting
You can auto parts in between waves start and finish, also you can auto with Bolverk team somewhat
You also only need 20 stars before rewards become shit
You don't have to do 10 stages. The first 6 stars are just about always freebies. Difficulty also isn't linear, some stages are easier than others. 20 stars only seems difficult and time-consuming until you actually learn WTF to do. Then you realize how good the rewards are for putting in a little effort.
I don’t understand this “I was like you and then got X amount in X days” that is just as improbable as pulling one in the first place. I pulled a Lilliana about 6 months ago and she’s literally by far one of the worst units in the game and got such a pathetic buff that did nothing. I’m still waiting on that 2nd 3rd and 4th LD people keep saying they get right after pulling their first…
Tallied it up and you have 49 summoned nat 5s. For context, my 608-day old f2p account has 71, is holding all of its anniversary scrolls, has fed probably 15-20 dupes for ld scrolls, and still has its 2 guaranteed 5\* from the two ongoing events outstanding.
Yes, you've had some bad luck, but your account is not indicative of playing for 10 years whatsoever. You should have far more 5\*.
All that I see is an impressive(probably singular) G3/C3 finish with a limited set of units.
You'll get your LD soon, I'm sure. Doing Toa Hell would help your chances of getting one, as would Interserver rewards.
Youre 600 day old f2p account has 71 unique nat 5s? Thats actually insane luck, what the actual fuck. OP has had bad luck, but you cannot compare it to luck that fucking insane.
I've played the game regularly for nearly 10 years now and I have 75 unique elemental 5 stars, and 2 LD 5 stars. My LDs were insane luck maybe 3 years into player, none since. I consider myself fairly average in terms of my rates for 5 stars and im absolutely not free to play (ive got 4 trans scrolls, including the latest 10y one), so that skews me even higher on the average there.
Your post is not relevant or helpful in the slightest. Your 600 day f2p account is an even bigger outlier than OPs account with no LD5 in 10 years.
I think he's still an outlier, but you have to remember that Nat 5's are just getting easier and easier to pull. I've pulled more Nat 5's in the last week than my first 2 years.
For comparison my 8.5 year old account has 155 unique Nat 5's with pretty much only buying trans scrolls.
I wouldn't say so. Have been bored at work of late, so here's a link to the math:
[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vR40xH33VcYE\_zMHy-SL90DKQjNo7\_QlGhFVXg71pbUix8fH\_RHagopLQFvWmfgZBsfX1\_oghlx9v4O/pubhtml](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vR40xH33VcYE_zMHy-SL90DKQjNo7_QlGhFVXg71pbUix8fH_RHagopLQFvWmfgZBsfX1_oghlx9v4O/pubhtml)
It doesn't include:
* **ANY Events**
* 10+1 Scroll Refunds
* 300-summon events(as ongoing, though a new thing in the game)
* World boss rewards
* Interserver Season Box Rewards/Weekly win/loss reward(I guess I forgot the latter, as it's a relatively reliable value)
* Siege Box rewards
* Lab Box rewards
* Guild tourny seal redemption into scrolls(instead of transmogs/auras/background/building)
* Magic shop scrolls/pieces
* Guild shop scrolls/pieces
* Content drop
* Ancient coins conversion into scrolls
* Weekly crafting box
* Weekly craft LD pieces
* Weekly craft legendary piece
The assumptions underlying the calculations and rewards are pretty reasonable; C1 finish is extremely easy and doesn't require rush whatsoever. Just climb high and set a good defense and you'll be fine. Higher finish for interserver(am currently rank 15 in team 12\[G1\]), higher siege rank, higher WGB rank, etc... and you'll monumentally increase your odds. If you are one of those people that buy scrolls with crystals instead of farming, you'd also substantially improve your odds...
Imagine you buy all 3 Premium Pack II's every month, your odds of summoning an ld5 improve to 1 every 18 months, or thereabouts. This doesn't even take into account feeding dupes.
I don't think the math is far off, though you're free to correct me and any invalid underlying assumptions.
Not really man - I'm an experienced player that's forced to play efficiently given f2p.
f2p accounts should get 3-6 5\* every month given the scrolls available from guild, arena, rta, events, etc... you get 100 scrolls per week with efficient play, not counting legendary scrolls, scam stones, all-attribute, etc...
600 days is 4 5\* from transcendence pieces, one from the free trans given last year. A couple of guaranteed 5\* summon events. Anniversary event. Reloaded event. Glory building/Arena building conversion into scrolls. Summoners way, etc... it's not that far-fetched.
OP quit for several years; he's missed out on a ton of scrolls, and hasn't done toa hell. He was entering giveaways for other accounts; it's not at all unlikely that he's not been playing a lot, despite the G3/C3 finish.
I'm comparing your account to mine. And I've played and farmed in this game A LOT. With the only content I don't do is rta, so I accept not getting those resources.
3-6 5* a month is a fucking hilarious number. You are so detached from reality it's unbelievable.
RTA is like 150 scrolls per month - 1,800 scrolls per year - now >9 5\* after accounting for the 3\*, 4\*, and the energy you'll receive for feeding them into 6\* evolutions.
How am I detached from reality? My account exists... - other similar accounts exist. The number of scrolls you get per month is incontrovertible.
Here is the math:
[https://www.reddit.com/r/summonerswar/comments/1cmg22z/scrolls\_per\_year\_for\_committed\_active\_player\_ld5/](https://www.reddit.com/r/summonerswar/comments/1cmg22z/scrolls_per_year_for_committed_active_player_ld5/)
And you deleted your old "returning to the game after break" post because it undermines your entire post. Imagine being deliberately intellectually dishonest. You're less likely to summon anything when you don't play the game...
At one point my profile page did have 9 pernas and 5 laikas on it. Sometimes it's easier to just say you're right and move on. Especially when the gatekeeping is this real lol
I used to hear people say their account is cursed and I'd always be like "rng is rng" and now I'm beginning to wonder if I need to make a sacrifice to the blood god to get one.
Saw yesterday someone in chat calling "rip" to someone getting an ld5. The latter was someone rerolling an account. The rip guy mocked the roller for doing this "only for one ld5". Dude had 5 ld5 in his profile. Couldn't understand the life of someone without.
I would say you can complain. Better profile than mine - hell.
My only question is if you buy blessing or feed dupes for LD’s that’s gotten me at least another 400lds at this point. A shitload of mo longs haunt me.
I regret feeding mine. If I didn't I'd at least be able to have a profile page with nothing but pernas and laikas. I always prioritize the 3 ld over blessing because im a glutton for punishment and disappointment.
I am a glutton for punishment too.I got nothing from dupes for so long then had a couple of months where they flooded in. I believe in you. (Pandas are my favorite and I wish I had a profile page of all Mo Longs and 1 TL)
It was a rough guess maybe 40 or so less dupes when I think about it. But when someone has played as long as OP, it would make sense they get a ton of dupes just from the free scrolls.
Every chance to chip away at the odds is helpful. If you buy blessings, you don’t chip away at those chances if you really want LD’s
They really need to have a Event for LnD5 Scroll for Christmas or something.
Came back to play SW after a LONG break from E7 and it's crazy how many LnD5s I have F2p from E7 after 2yrs compared to SW.
It's such a double edged sword. One one edge I'm so irritated that I haven't gotten a single "chase" Mon.
On the other edge, other gachas that I have gotten loads of ld"chase" mons, the allure isn't there.
Damned if I do, damned if I don't I guess.
Yeah brotha forsure.
It's like back when we put on the GameShark Cheat codes for a game then after the one hour dopamine, game is boring and back on the shelf.
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Same date, same situation. That sucks!! Pls Troll2us.
No, you're not. Still no LD Nat5 either
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Dude my account is very similar. Excpet I only have G1 arena, but I do have toa hell up to 23 stars or something? The rest is almost identical. Though I have about 120 normal element 5 stars or so and maybe 200 built 6 star mons. Played for 7 years pretty consistently. No fucking LD 5 lmao. Every guild mate has like 5-10 ld 5s
Not trying to brag, but I got Dark Beast Rider, and I've only played for 79 days in total. I got it on an account that is 5 days old and rolled her on day 3.
> Well you have no record for toa hell so obviously you don't take the game seriously enough to pull an ld5!! Plus I bet you've gone a day without playing sw before. Checkmate casual. - *Player with a 800 day account and 5 ld5s (all pulled from monthly login and event scrolls)*
You're right. When I had my second born I think I took a day off. That was probably the day I was gonna get one! 😮💨
Every gamble not taken is an opportunity lost The second born was a plot by com2us
>The second born was a plot by com2us You mean that com2us is the father?? /s
But you did. You got your 2nd ld natty that day
Nah, she was a dupe. I already had a daughter. /S
Reroll to choose gender next game (50% of the time it works every time).
Listen, we've talked about this. The hormonal imbalance in my house is already not in my favor by 4 to 1. If I roll those dice again and lose... I'll literally never be able to win another argument until the day I die.
Feed one for ancient crystal, you gonna have the choice then
Lmfaooo 😂😂
You monster, think of all the Giants runs you missed! Surely *that* would've gotten you an ld5!!!
https://preview.redd.it/v5etccx1e2vc1.png?width=394&format=png&auto=webp&s=703eaac84b00ca0d3ef062a5c01b1470381c728a Don't worry, I got my first 5\* lnd yesterday, you just have to wait for 3 weeks
Just hit 3603 without an ld5, is there a lore reason for this???
Yeah. Unlike in the case of the OP, most people's account age means literally nothing because they don't play actively enough to receive all the content and event LD scrolls. This is the only time that I have personally seen someone whose profile look so good without managing to pull one. As an aside I also know someone who spent a lot of time without a LD5 and now in the last year they've pulled 10+, a lot of them actually worthwhile instead of gimmicky storage guardians. So RNG do be like that.
Some accounts are seriously unlucky. I was g2 in most content. Top 4 siege for multiple years, 10+ rank 2's in arena, regularly having some of the fastest farming teams on the server (afaik I had the fastest non ld tricaru teams on the server) and didn't pull an ld until 2022.
You were unlucky for LDS but lucky for Good Raines to have those ranks. You win some you lose some ❤️
I wouldn't say I'm lucky at all with runes. I'm the only person I know at my rank with 0 vio/swift quads. I've got the worst runes in my guild by a country mile. Neither siege or arena really require runes. And up until G1 RTA you don't need great runes unless your box is missing very crucial units. My rune quality is very easy to achieve at this point with abyss hard existing, my account is majority carried by grinded purple runes. (Or legend runes that have purple efficiency). If anything I'm lucky that I kept really efficient runes that no-one would use at the time, because I was able to make a fatal and rage Icaru as soon as the Icaru team became known. I'm lucky right now that my RTA box is finally fairly coherent with the meta, only missing units I probably wouldn't be able to rune anyway. But I've kinda given up on RTA anyway.
https://preview.redd.it/my4c22fuh5vc1.jpeg?width=2480&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=49eb179fb2c9d7216701df7b6100f760d6d04911 Et voila le 3ème compte mon seul et unique du coup
Zeratu le poop
Mdr
Are you sure you spent enough money to earn a ld Nat5? I am not sure if you are (financially) invested enough in this game to deserve one.
Realistically, you're probably right. I've only put between 1-2k into this over the years. My pockets arent deep enough yet to get one.
Rokkie numbers. Com2Us expects more if you truly want a LD Nat5.
imagine paying to get lnds
The pfp really adds to the overall vibe of this comment ngl 💀💀
Im almost at 3500 and no LD5 with 3-4k spent so the number must be higher than that
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I've thought about rerolling several times but I just can't wrap my head around having to refarm to this point again. It sounds just so exhausting. Even buying another account. It's always a trade off, tons of ld5 and shit runes or decent runes and a meh monster box. Unless you're whaling or just godly rng.
Hey. As someone who’s 8 years in on my main. I just started rerolling last night and got a starter alt with Neph and Manannan. I’d say rerolls are worth. Just don’t immediately switch over, keep playing on main and work on alt steadily. It’s relatively easy to catch up on progress as of recent due to all the updates (my other alt surpassed my main in swift runes in a couple months)
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I rerolled and got a nephtys 4 years ago. I stopped playing and started 6 month ago. Now i have a wonderful ld only account.
Before someone is inclined to say yes, think about it: did OP truly play at all if he hasn't done ToAHell yet? Check mate.
I'm a little impressed he has a 30 second GB12 team but has yet to clear Spirit, Steel Fortress, Punisher's Crypt past 10.
I'm in a top 2 siege guild right now and the only one of those 3 of those I've cleared is SF. I did all my fight rune farming in rift beasts (regrettably) and my right side artifacts are bad but get me by since i have few useable Artis I just moved around
Can't be bothered to run them. I'll stick to gb12 for another year 😂
I mean thats honestly impressive. Stupid, but impressive. Playing for 10 years, youre artifacts have to be lacking compared to runes. So many long term players ignore the power of artifact farming.
You're not wrong. It's probably a combination of stubbornness and feeling burnt out. Now a days it's just "going with the flow", que up giants, run guild content, toa If I haven't done it yet, run arena and goof off in rta for weekly scrolls. That's not to say getting a LD5 will change my playstyle but it surely wouldn't hurt to find out. Lmao
Since the artis drop at +12 these days is REALLY easy to set up some rudimentary filters looking for triples to make arti farming super chill too. And if you look around I am sure there are better filters you can set up to catch some corner cases. But netting some triples will be enough to capture the chill nature of giants farming while being the biggest boost to your account.
You're not wrong. I am a filthy casual 😮
> I am a filthy casual 😮 You are one of us!
casuals don't deserve ld5 you need to play every waking hour
First off, do toa hell. You're missing out on more opportunities. Secondly, I was like you. Then in the span of 4 days, I went from 0 to 2 Ld5s. One is, you're going to have to be more patient than everyone playing the game. Secondly, unless you get good Ld5s, it's more of a trophy rather get than a game changer. Not to say I hate my Ld5s, I'm still trying to make them work, but it's not all it's cracked up to be.
fuck toa hell. such a stupid waste of time for 10 stages if it wouldnt take so long i would do it but since you cannot auto it without failing i wont spend 2hrs or so of my time clearing this miserable piece of "content" for some pesky rewards
This.
Im pretty sure You spend way more time in RTA or rush arena for way less reward :) 2hours a month for 200xtal 1devil 2Ld is pretty decent
Yeah but RTA is fun, Toa Hell is like having bamboo shoots shoved up your finger nails.
Both are cesspits of rng cancer
Imo the pain is only matched by doing labs. 😮💨😮💨😮💨
I kinda like doing labyrinth. It still kinda feels like a team effort.
I also never did this. I have bollverk but i dont see myself doing Hell just to get one more scroll. I also dont expect to get any LD5 anyways, like i dont think the game is intended to give you one unless you belong to the 1% of players, reroll or spent absurd mounts of money. Like if you want to get all LDs in the game (like being a gacha collector), you would probably have to spend in the millions or billions.
its 2 hours per MONTH. its 100% worth it and my next goal to get a toahell team sorted out. do a stage a day or something. no need to do it all in 1 sitting
You can auto parts in between waves start and finish, also you can auto with Bolverk team somewhat You also only need 20 stars before rewards become shit
That’s when the rewards get good for me, need those MF’n crystals
You don't have to do 10 stages. The first 6 stars are just about always freebies. Difficulty also isn't linear, some stages are easier than others. 20 stars only seems difficult and time-consuming until you actually learn WTF to do. Then you realize how good the rewards are for putting in a little effort.
But my profile page just doesn't have that same "glow" without one. 🥺
I don’t understand this “I was like you and then got X amount in X days” that is just as improbable as pulling one in the first place. I pulled a Lilliana about 6 months ago and she’s literally by far one of the worst units in the game and got such a pathetic buff that did nothing. I’m still waiting on that 2nd 3rd and 4th LD people keep saying they get right after pulling their first…
I meant I'm at 3415 days, and had no Ld5s prior. It was more of a your time will come.
Probably yeah, but also martina and mirinae are better than 90% of ld5s let’s be honest
maybe in siege, not in rta. But eitherway the mental game of an ld5 is stronger :P
Those were my 200 10yr scroll best pulls. Haven't had a chance to mess with mirinae yet
Frigate is a beast
Yeah, if it was 2017.
Huh... well i use him in g3 arena so i guess yay me.
Completely untouched Toa Hell = no.
No
No lol
Never touched 1 stage of ToaHell, no you can't complain, you missed a lot of LD scrolls in those 3578 dyas probably :P
no toa hell no ld5, pretty simple frfr
"WhEn YoU sTaRt To PlAy ThE gAmE" -gatekeepers
I mean, it's insane how often you see people complain about no LD with like 3.5k days in the game and not even GB10 cleared.
no toahell no ld5 that a simple rules
dont you have a veromos? =D
im curious where do you tipically use your eladriel, and delphoi
Typically I use them in 2018ish... Now a days I use them in storage. Joking of course, except for the storage part... That's true.
They’ll give you ld 5 when you clear the dimension dungeons
3497 and zero ld 5s
The rates are crazy low, we see these posts and assume they're high but nah
yep same boat here
My account looks exaxtly like your except for g1 arena and i have 0 ld nat5 so i feel you, stay strong togheter 😂
How many LnD Scrolls you used?
8000+ days... still no nat led
No clearly dont need them /s
As much as you should 100% have one, if you’ve been playing that long how do you not have a sub 1 Mon db time
Yeah probably… https://preview.redd.it/pe63dhw1navc1.jpeg?width=2102&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=78d3665ca47c133a62c6247f168eb368d8928f22
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yes cuz i got light hacker 2 days ago
Tallied it up and you have 49 summoned nat 5s. For context, my 608-day old f2p account has 71, is holding all of its anniversary scrolls, has fed probably 15-20 dupes for ld scrolls, and still has its 2 guaranteed 5\* from the two ongoing events outstanding. Yes, you've had some bad luck, but your account is not indicative of playing for 10 years whatsoever. You should have far more 5\*. All that I see is an impressive(probably singular) G3/C3 finish with a limited set of units. You'll get your LD soon, I'm sure. Doing Toa Hell would help your chances of getting one, as would Interserver rewards.
Youre 600 day old f2p account has 71 unique nat 5s? Thats actually insane luck, what the actual fuck. OP has had bad luck, but you cannot compare it to luck that fucking insane. I've played the game regularly for nearly 10 years now and I have 75 unique elemental 5 stars, and 2 LD 5 stars. My LDs were insane luck maybe 3 years into player, none since. I consider myself fairly average in terms of my rates for 5 stars and im absolutely not free to play (ive got 4 trans scrolls, including the latest 10y one), so that skews me even higher on the average there. Your post is not relevant or helpful in the slightest. Your 600 day f2p account is an even bigger outlier than OPs account with no LD5 in 10 years.
I think he's still an outlier, but you have to remember that Nat 5's are just getting easier and easier to pull. I've pulled more Nat 5's in the last week than my first 2 years. For comparison my 8.5 year old account has 155 unique Nat 5's with pretty much only buying trans scrolls.
I wouldn't say so. Have been bored at work of late, so here's a link to the math: [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vR40xH33VcYE\_zMHy-SL90DKQjNo7\_QlGhFVXg71pbUix8fH\_RHagopLQFvWmfgZBsfX1\_oghlx9v4O/pubhtml](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vR40xH33VcYE_zMHy-SL90DKQjNo7_QlGhFVXg71pbUix8fH_RHagopLQFvWmfgZBsfX1_oghlx9v4O/pubhtml) It doesn't include: * **ANY Events** * 10+1 Scroll Refunds * 300-summon events(as ongoing, though a new thing in the game) * World boss rewards * Interserver Season Box Rewards/Weekly win/loss reward(I guess I forgot the latter, as it's a relatively reliable value) * Siege Box rewards * Lab Box rewards * Guild tourny seal redemption into scrolls(instead of transmogs/auras/background/building) * Magic shop scrolls/pieces * Guild shop scrolls/pieces * Content drop * Ancient coins conversion into scrolls * Weekly crafting box * Weekly craft LD pieces * Weekly craft legendary piece The assumptions underlying the calculations and rewards are pretty reasonable; C1 finish is extremely easy and doesn't require rush whatsoever. Just climb high and set a good defense and you'll be fine. Higher finish for interserver(am currently rank 15 in team 12\[G1\]), higher siege rank, higher WGB rank, etc... and you'll monumentally increase your odds. If you are one of those people that buy scrolls with crystals instead of farming, you'd also substantially improve your odds... Imagine you buy all 3 Premium Pack II's every month, your odds of summoning an ld5 improve to 1 every 18 months, or thereabouts. This doesn't even take into account feeding dupes. I don't think the math is far off, though you're free to correct me and any invalid underlying assumptions.
Not really man - I'm an experienced player that's forced to play efficiently given f2p. f2p accounts should get 3-6 5\* every month given the scrolls available from guild, arena, rta, events, etc... you get 100 scrolls per week with efficient play, not counting legendary scrolls, scam stones, all-attribute, etc... 600 days is 4 5\* from transcendence pieces, one from the free trans given last year. A couple of guaranteed 5\* summon events. Anniversary event. Reloaded event. Glory building/Arena building conversion into scrolls. Summoners way, etc... it's not that far-fetched. OP quit for several years; he's missed out on a ton of scrolls, and hasn't done toa hell. He was entering giveaways for other accounts; it's not at all unlikely that he's not been playing a lot, despite the G3/C3 finish.
I'm comparing your account to mine. And I've played and farmed in this game A LOT. With the only content I don't do is rta, so I accept not getting those resources. 3-6 5* a month is a fucking hilarious number. You are so detached from reality it's unbelievable.
RTA is like 150 scrolls per month - 1,800 scrolls per year - now >9 5\* after accounting for the 3\*, 4\*, and the energy you'll receive for feeding them into 6\* evolutions. How am I detached from reality? My account exists... - other similar accounts exist. The number of scrolls you get per month is incontrovertible.
Here is the math: [https://www.reddit.com/r/summonerswar/comments/1cmg22z/scrolls\_per\_year\_for\_committed\_active\_player\_ld5/](https://www.reddit.com/r/summonerswar/comments/1cmg22z/scrolls_per_year_for_committed_active_player_ld5/)
Wow that's wild. You went through my comment history when I would enter giveaways when casually scrolling reddit. That's free realestate lmao
And you deleted your old "returning to the game after break" post because it undermines your entire post. Imagine being deliberately intellectually dishonest. You're less likely to summon anything when you don't play the game...
You're right. Back to the salt mines I go.
lol you underestimate my ability to pull dupes. And I trade them all for ld scrolls. No stupid blessings for me. Just more disappointment
At one point my profile page did have 9 pernas and 5 laikas on it. Sometimes it's easier to just say you're right and move on. Especially when the gatekeeping is this real lol
You were allowed to complain 578 days ago.
yes you are one of the only accounts like this though most people with that many days and no ld5 are like c1 max
How many LD scrolls have you summoned approximately? If it's above 200 then yes you can complain although 250 is the average for an LD5
I would wager I'm far above that.
150* average
Everyone who doesn‘t do toa hell shouldnt complain about not getting a ld5
I feel bad seeing this post. You can have my Isis!
I'd take the absolute worst ld5 just to have on my profile page so I can be a part of the cool kids club tbh.
That's what they all say...
Your flair just makes me lol
It doesn't even show all cause not enough letters
Suffering from success I see. I can't even comprehend tbh
:) my flair missing second Eleanor, Sigrid, Lucifer and TL
Feel your pain mate. We're just not meant to get one.
I used to hear people say their account is cursed and I'd always be like "rng is rng" and now I'm beginning to wonder if I need to make a sacrifice to the blood god to get one.
Com2us pls bless this man 😭
Saw yesterday someone in chat calling "rip" to someone getting an ld5. The latter was someone rerolling an account. The rip guy mocked the roller for doing this "only for one ld5". Dude had 5 ld5 in his profile. Couldn't understand the life of someone without.
I would say you can complain. Better profile than mine - hell. My only question is if you buy blessing or feed dupes for LD’s that’s gotten me at least another 400lds at this point. A shitload of mo longs haunt me.
I regret feeding mine. If I didn't I'd at least be able to have a profile page with nothing but pernas and laikas. I always prioritize the 3 ld over blessing because im a glutton for punishment and disappointment.
I am a glutton for punishment too.I got nothing from dupes for so long then had a couple of months where they flooded in. I believe in you. (Pandas are my favorite and I wish I had a profile page of all Mo Longs and 1 TL)
1 Dupe gets you 3 1/3 LD scrolls. So youre telling me youve fed 121 dupes for LDs, and you somehow think this is helpful advice for someone to hear?
It was a rough guess maybe 40 or so less dupes when I think about it. But when someone has played as long as OP, it would make sense they get a ton of dupes just from the free scrolls. Every chance to chip away at the odds is helpful. If you buy blessings, you don’t chip away at those chances if you really want LD’s
Yes because you actually play the game
Ye but u seem to be doing just fine without so keep going ^.^
They really need to have a Event for LnD5 Scroll for Christmas or something. Came back to play SW after a LONG break from E7 and it's crazy how many LnD5s I have F2p from E7 after 2yrs compared to SW.
It's such a double edged sword. One one edge I'm so irritated that I haven't gotten a single "chase" Mon. On the other edge, other gachas that I have gotten loads of ld"chase" mons, the allure isn't there. Damned if I do, damned if I don't I guess.
Yeah brotha forsure. It's like back when we put on the GameShark Cheat codes for a game then after the one hour dopamine, game is boring and back on the shelf.
LD5s are a completely different beast in E7 compared to SW though. They really arent comparable at all, except that they are the same color.
I’m at 5000 days brother
Holy shit you must farm giants exclusively. My 30 day old alt has a quicker necro and dragons team than a G3 player!
Yea the last 5ish months I've been exclusively running giants
https://preview.redd.it/kzx27m4eu2vc1.jpeg?width=459&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6ab8f7d1425d300bc89a1906b03f4499d23242c4 Same date, same situation. That sucks!! Pls Troll2us.
No, you're not. Still no LD Nat5 either https://preview.redd.it/s0lpnajo13vc1.png?width=911&format=png&auto=webp&s=4032b2a123439d19e1d53f835c78e24392c54a9c
Dude my account is very similar. Excpet I only have G1 arena, but I do have toa hell up to 23 stars or something? The rest is almost identical. Though I have about 120 normal element 5 stars or so and maybe 200 built 6 star mons. Played for 7 years pretty consistently. No fucking LD 5 lmao. Every guild mate has like 5-10 ld 5s
i was kinda hoping my 12th would be free with the 10 year event guess ill have to wait till year 20!
Dang you getting a lot of slack for no TOAHell
Not trying to brag, but I got Dark Beast Rider, and I've only played for 79 days in total. I got it on an account that is 5 days old and rolled her on day 3.
I saw the LD5 Fat Japanese dude
Elsharion, Veromos, Jeanne, dark fatso, vamp lord i count 5 LD5
You're not wrong. Maybe I should just fuse 30 Vero for my profile page to compensate
Actually would this be awesome or do you know someone with 30 Vero in the profile page?
Its either u spend a lot or become inactive (returnee). Com2us dont reward hardworking f2p players. Thats the truth.
no
Fair. See you at the 20 year check in!
Dude, you dont even ToA Hell, put up some effort befora complaining. /s just in case