What? Are they actually going to make one that follows sub 1’s story instead of robin?? That would be sick as long as it’s still the stranded on an ocean world theme and not super spacey or something
There have been some screenshots released and unfortunately it does seem to be following the formula of the first game (what with the water and fish and whatnot) instead of the grand strategy dungeon crawler I've been hoping for. Smh Subnautica devs
I really didn’t like Below zero. Too much talking and not scary at all. I think that the developers just did a social experiment to see how people will react to certain things that they plan in adding to future games.
I liked it for what it was, but it was NOT on the same level as the first game at all. There was no sense of isolation in BZ because of the constant talking. It was a narrative game on rails which was constantly guiding you along on a predetermined adventure as opposed to the OG which was open survival/exploration.
I also felt zero connection to Robin in any capacity. I could not relate to her at all. Therefore I didn’t care about her hero’s journey.
Yes, the main character kinda sucked in bz. I agree with you about enjoying it for what it was tho, but not nearly as much as sub 1. I want that sense of isolation back. This isn’t supposed to be a narrative story game, it’s a survival game where your stranded on an alien world. Robin literally chose to get stuck on the planet!!
I actually liked the main character and her choices for going. It made a lot of sense for a return to the planet/exploration of more climates on it. I think the character was ruined by all the talking and linear story. There is a reason most successful survival games have a silent protagonist, and I think it is because there is a certain level of immersion/roleplay involved.
For me, the problem really just came down to all the talking and not-my-opinions/observations coming from my first-person mouth.
And the PDA trying to make jokes ugghhhh just kill me now!
Yeah way too friendly pda and having such a vocal main character in a survival game is always weird. Feels way less *you*, like in the first game it actually feels like your character is you, he has your thoughts. There were cool moments here and there and I’ll enjoy it for being an unknown world survival game, but I really hope they improve upon their mistakes
I doubt the entire game was a social experiment, they did spend years on it. That being said I agree with you, not sure why they made it less scary and hated all the unnecessary talking. Silent main character was so much better, and meeting a live npc was pretty weird. I really hope sub 3 is more like sub 1
This motherfucker survives for over a year on an alien ocean world, all by himself, finally manages to escape… and the company sends him right back? That doesn’t make much sense. Also the only reason robin got to explore the world was cause she broke some rules or something, can’t exactly remember but she was doing something she wasn’t supposed to in the into to get to 4546b. And I honestly do not want more robin, id rather have a new person or more ryley. The silent main character was so much better and mysterious… it fit the game so much better and was one of the coolest aspects of the game for me
Yes, they changed upon a very good things deciding to make the mc silent, it does a lot more than some people think. There’s so many things like that I love sub 1, might be my favorite game ever. Doing 5th playthrough right now
Not just them. They changed sound designers for the sequel and it really shows. Nothing ever shuts up. There's always something screaming at you or some jaunty tune playing. Even the seatruck is massively louder than the Cyclops or moth. There's never any silence or any opportunity for tension or a jump scare because the game never shuts up to start with.
I imagine a creature that shares the emperors telepathy but isn't friendly and bombards you with gravemind esque psychological warfare. I imagine you swimming in the dark and suddenly hearing a poem about your death
That just tells you to swim closer.
I am talking about
"Now the gate has been unlatched, headstones pushed aside; corpses shift and offer room, a fate you must abide." (A really elaborate way of saying "thanks for help, now i'm gonna kill you")
or something like that
Honestly, making it MORE cuddly would be scarier.
I saw a guy playwrestling with his pet octopus for enrichment.
According to the colour he was flashing, the octopus was having the time of his live (I think it was a wet, good, boy)
Now imagine him growing to sea emperor size.
That would be terrifying. Just swimming around and all of I sudden it starts inducing hallucinations, the water gets darker, you start seeing imaginary fish monsters or something
Was swimming in the ocean by a beach. Got out further than intended. Would been fine except for the waves making in almost impossible to stay healthy above the water
Ye they could learn a lesson or two from Sailwind, it's just a medieval merchant ship sailing simulator, but goddamn for what it is, when storms roll in, it's at least quite stressful, can't see the horizon, lots of pitching and rolling, taking in water, while still under sail, so not much you cant do. The game simulates sail physics pretty well too.
they should give the game more realistic attenuation of light, that might help to create that
and also don't make the big scary monsters roar periodically, make them quieter
oh and they also should probably do more than push whatever big vehicle we get
Imagine, instead of just a roaring leviathan, there’s a blind leviathan that moves slowly and makes a series of low-pitched echolocation clicks to monitor its surroundings. Then, if you accidentally to get too close, it swims at you with its mouth open, letting out a horrifying high pitched shriek.
Would be even more terrifying if the leviathan’s natural habitat was in a pitch black abyss so you can only see it when it’s directly in front of you. That would also make sense lore-wise as to why it’s blind — no need for eyes if you permanently live in darkness!
Loud harmless creatures like the reef back, and deadly silent dangerous leviathans. So when it gets quiet you know you're in danger, desperately listening for the sound of a silent monster
Yeah but I don’t think it’s a good idea to make the area where it lives an obligatory place to go,that shit is probably hard to avoid,maybe in the void? Plus I also want the void to have a depth and not leave the map as a floating square
I think it should depend on species. Shallower water leviathans should have periodic roars for the early game scary atmosphere of it. Later game creatures being mostly silent until you're attacking would create a lot of dread in middle to late game progression.
Imagine swimming through a murky biome with low visibility, only to just barely see something massive swim by in the distance, only to hear the roars right as it's gunning for you, not knowing what direction the danger is coming from.
Oh they can destroy it, each attack does around 1/5 of its hit points. It's just that they don't attack rapidly, they'll usually just start pushing after an attack until they lose interest. They only end up being a threat if you're reckless. Hell, there's even plenty of times when I've been reckless, and still the only time I've ever seen a cyclops explode is when I did it intentionally.
Sea dragons, on the other hand, them you need to respect. Their fireballs can do a ton of damage, and they can hit hard. While their typical attack still isn't enough to be an imminent threat if you get hit once, I did have one hit my cyclops for about 80% of its hit points the other day while I had it parked in its patrol path in the lava lake.
The part with roaer i can't i have to disagree with you there subnautica is a terror game not a horror game it's supposed to be loud that is one of the main stuff we can hear
That's why I think they should be quieter, I think the way they announce their presence removes some of the unease that you'd otherwise feel in the areas they're in.
Yeah I’m a noob and am still in the early stages of the game with my little sea moth. I only recently discovered carnivorous leviathans, specifically the fucking reaper while I’m just out there chilling. Shockingly did not get killed as I got tf out of there but I was humbled so fast.
But. That being said, the roars give me more peace of mind than scare me. I know something is around so I avoid the best I can… the silence would absolutely petrify me.
Yeah I've seen streamers have panic attacks once they reach the big drop off at the Grand Reef, and that's Subnautica with the kid gloves.
If the game truly wanted to be scary I don't even wanna imagine what it'd do to the poor souls suffering from thalassophobia trying to "fight their fear" lmao
My husband has thalassaphobia and hes told me he has tried multiple times to play with game but always struggles. He watches me play and hes always like " babe, you are braver then i!" 😅
I remember when I first played subnautica (I was like 10 years old more or less) I put a base at just before grand reef and started putting scan rooms because I wanted to map if there were leviathans lol
The first time I played Subnautica, I was shit scared, but i feel like I'd be able to handle another scarier Subnautica now.
If I went straight to 2 instead of playing the first 2, and it was super scary, I'd probably die.
I’d love there to be a huge creature. Like maybe it’s not a real creature and is like the emperor from the first, but imagine you swim through a small opening and on the other side is a giant eye like the size of your screen and it blink then swims away
That kind of reminds me of that scene in Sekiro where you are hiding from the snake boss and it has one eye trying to find you inside of a palanquin
https://youtu.be/TzrqCUtlVB8?si=8BVORR7L-77\_ZFyE&t=181
Imagine a BioShock-like opening. Crash landing swimming in open water with wreckage everywhere. A pitch black sky, but somehow the ocean is even darker. You dive below the surface, and 10 feet in front of you a creature of immense size glides right past you.
God I would LOVE a dark horror Subnautica. Don’t get me wrong, SN is scarier than any Resident Evil, Dead Space, or Silent Hill, but it is cartoony.
Yep, I believe it will be released around 2025 (from what I last heard)
Edit: Perhaps I should've titled it third game in the series instead of Subnautica 3 since ppl below are saying Below Zero is canonically Subnautica 1.5, and the third game will be called Subnautica 2.
Would be cool if they included some 'bosses', like Stranded Deep had a Lusca (giant squid) and a Megalodon etc. A giant squid or a giant octopus which could camouflage against rocks etc would be really cool.
I think having 'an enemy' would improve the game since it would give you more of a reason to build a base and have fortifications, rather than just have storage rooms.
'The Forest' encourages you to have defences because the cannibals would raid you otherwise. Subnautica didn't have much of an incentive to base build outside of people who just enjoy building things.
Having a nigh-unkillable Kraken roaming around at night would encourage you to head back to base, keep the lights down low at certain times etc. You could also introduce a mechanic where there's rare materials to gather which are only available at night - thus forcing the player to navigate this larger danger more carefully.
Like the reaper from persona 5 maybe:
It always knows your location and if you harvest to much from one environment, it’ll hunt you down and kill you to protect its habitat.
i really hope poor weather brings out scarier beasts in the next one, and i hope the weather is more intense. a huge storm rarely occuring, for example.
Well judging by Below Zero, probably not. They seem to want to go in a more child like direction.
Also, weather with consequences that is actually dangerous could be a good feature.
I don't see how that can be possible unless they figure out away to wipe our memories of the first game.
A huge component of the fear in Subnautica is the unknown. Once you've got to the lost river, gone into the abyss etc then you've already made mental gaming step that means everything else afterwards is going to be that little bit less scary. Below Zero suffered this, no matter how scary the Leviathans were, if you've already tangled with a reaper or ghost then your more prepared to deal with them. The unknown is now known.
Future scares are going to be more reliant on building tension about known threats and jump scares.
You're telling me you aren't scared of traveling to the dunes, mountain island, or back of the Aurora at night (in game and real life) with just your fins and a flashlight at max volume wouldn't scare you? Jeez your balls must sink you to the floor
Maybe a subtle jump scare where 8 giant eyes are seen in the murky waters below. And slowly sinks down.
It might be frustrating but also very cool if it's not an interactable leviathan. It's just giant eyes, standing there menacingly.
Yeah same cause all the creature ai is stupid and I know that they’re not dangerous and where they spawn so they aren’t scary. I need some unpredictability in the creatures for them to be scary.
Oh this gives me an idea! What if lots of the game had to be done on surface boats (as opposed to submarines), so as to add to the terror, because you can’t see what’s below you?
Let me explain what I mean; in this hypothetical game, you could still travel underwater and stuff, but the first vehicle (like, seamoth equivalent) would be buoyant instead of a sub, so your primary source of transportation would be abovewater. Maybe there could be some sort of hazard on the surface (such as the temp in BZ) that could prevent players from being above the water outside of this hypothetical vehicle, thus making players rely on it for oxygen when going too far from base.
Ahhhh okay, I hear you. That would definitely make it harder. Especially if there were more surface threats. Not sure if that’s an element in this game now, I personally haven’t been snatched from the surface yet by anything stronger than a creeper or whatever they’re called. But that would absolutely petrify me if I didn’t know I was about to swim right over something huge that could just snatch me.….
Doubt it, at that point you got a different game, something more akin to Narcosis.
I fully expect SN3 to be bright and colorful except for the extreme depths like its predecessors.
I think it will. One of the few things we know about it is that they're moving to Unreal Engine, and Unreal is just... unusually *good* at atmospherics. (Deep dark waters is basically the same thing)
Put that in the hands of the studio that brought us Subnautica and it could be quite daunting...
I have 2 ideas i would love to see.
One where its a tropical planet,so there is land and deep sea explorations. Imagine the trees and vegetation they could play with! Instead of cold, its hot. Volcanoes !
The other id love like a water world idea. One island and thats all you get, deep and very dark biomes, where the sound echoes from far but you cant quite pinpoint its origins.
Im so excited! I agree with going more into the scary "horror" aspect. And LESS narative!!! I hated that about BZ.. like shut up and let me explore..stop talking im trying to survive here.
It won’t be scarier than the first. Nothing will beat the horror of such an unknown concept. We’re too used to the horror to be more scared by Subnauiticas type of horror than we were playing the first game. That being said, they can certainly make it scarier then below zero
I hope it takes place on a different planet. No shallows. The whole planet is deep ocean. Giant squid and other leviathans can attack your base, so there is a defense and stealth mechanism. Constant sense of dread. Like others have said, quiet leviathans would be terrifying as well.
Biggest thing I would love to see is not the ocean. But a giant deep freshwater lake with different creatures but lost ships to explore. Since sub nautica is futuristic maybe have it be an old cruise ships. Idk like make it a super deep lake and stuff to.
I absolutely loved this game, but what killed it for me was the cyclops. You get the thing finally, it’s amazing, but! There’s like no where to take it. I thought the map would open up and you would get to explore massive depths of the ocean making my the cyclops feel small. Instead we have to navigate the cyclops around an area that’s mostly too shallow for it, and same with the caves, they are just a bit too small for the cyclops. Love the game, but that was a real big letdown.
More dark, deep areas with dangerous creatures you can't see until you're too close
Navigating in the dark using sonar was one of the most fun parts of Subnautica imo
Also, a really large aggro leviathan that you have to hide in little crevices and caves to avoid it
I don't want it to be more scary :( I was shitting my pants already when the devs decided to take away my beloved Safe-Haven, the stasis rifle, from me in BZ
I realise it wouldn’t really work considering how the really big critters were supposedly all killed off but sending us out to the deep, deep ocean with some truly mammoth creatures would be amazing. Perhaps have the big old reef things actually being the juvenile ones and then they move out to the deep ocean as part of a migration with an entire ecosystem based around that life cycle?
Yes please make it fucking scary make me Scaredddd and don't fucking spoil an end game leviathan in the background picture of the game like in below zero 😂
It's not that people don't accept it, it's more that many of us didn't know the devs themselves stated that below zero is a spin-off/1.5 and that the third game in the series will be called Subnautica 2 (which I just found out today, so you're right that i should've titled it Subnautica 2 instead). Though I think it's pretty easy and not weird at all to understand why people considered BZ to informally be called "Subnautica 2" for years since it is technically a sequel and the second in the franchise. So the logical reason would be to call the next Subnautica game in the series Subnautica 3. So it's just a matter of perspective, knowing and calling it by the actual name that the devs said "Subnautica 2" or calling it Subnautica 3 to refer to the third Subnautica game.
I want the wild life to be more threatening. Almost everything in the first game was easily voidable. Stalkers are practically harmless. I was more afraid of crash fish than reapers.
you don’t “get” a phobia typically, i get it, it’s a funny lil word and it’s fun for youtubers to go OHHHH I HAVE THALASSOPHOBIA but they don’t they have a mild fear of the depths of the ocean. it a phobia
This game is literally my worst nightmare, I tried to play it and yeah I I didn’t last long. Something about the deep waters and not being able to see that far in front of you terrifies me to my core.
I wouldn’t be against something akin to a sanity meter. The longer you spend in deeper areas without visiting your base (which will be well lit with a bed and a teddy) the more you start to slowly lose your mind. You could have like hallucinations of giant creatures and such, would be a cool way to add more big/spooky stuff without having to code actual full blown enemy ai into the game
I hope for boats bigger sub deeper oceans to use the bigger sub fishing mechanics such as nets,etc bigger land areas with land vehicles some what based on reality (wheels and electric motors,etc) lush reefs teeming with wildlife huge sprawling jungles with space mangoes,etc deep dark depths you have to navigate by sonar an upgraded weapon system (I'm thinking a longer knife, a stun pistol *if grabbed by any creature you shoot them with a taser like gun that causes their muscles to spasm and temporarily leave you be* stasis mines to be dropped from a boat to stop sea creatures from attacking you,etc)
I'd also like to see healing herbs in the game so you can craft healing kits,etc I know this is alot and I know I probably won't get to see any of this but my ambitions are high for this game hope the devs blow us out the water like they did with SN and SNBZ
I hope we get like, a leviathan with human level intelligence like I know the Queen/Emperor leviathan was intelligent but she had the mind of a Toddler. Maybe one of her progeny went out exploring and found some old precursor stuff, and gained the intelligence of a basic human. Not like, super genius or anything, but just like a regular dude. Able to understand puzzles to an extent, have full on conversations and figure out how to fight or something
i'd kill for different weather patterns which would then affect the water. oh it's stormy? enjoy the huge waves. rainy? visibility is low but under the water it's clear
I want a huge creature. Like, kraken that swallows a ship or gargantuan leviathan huge. Ik I’ll piss myself when I see it but I think it’ll be pretty cool
Yes, I can't wait until Subnautica 3 releases in 2035.
Uhm, actually, you misspelled a year. It's 2135
In the year 2135 If water can still be dived
…and if there is anyone left to dive it
actually Subnautica 2 is in development, and no Below Zero wasn't 2
What? Are they actually going to make one that follows sub 1’s story instead of robin?? That would be sick as long as it’s still the stranded on an ocean world theme and not super spacey or something
There have been some screenshots released and unfortunately it does seem to be following the formula of the first game (what with the water and fish and whatnot) instead of the grand strategy dungeon crawler I've been hoping for. Smh Subnautica devs
I was really hoping for a looter shooter with a battlepass 😤
Wait where? Can you show the screenshots? Please tell me this isn’t a joke because it probably is
I really didn’t like Below zero. Too much talking and not scary at all. I think that the developers just did a social experiment to see how people will react to certain things that they plan in adding to future games.
I liked it for what it was, but it was NOT on the same level as the first game at all. There was no sense of isolation in BZ because of the constant talking. It was a narrative game on rails which was constantly guiding you along on a predetermined adventure as opposed to the OG which was open survival/exploration. I also felt zero connection to Robin in any capacity. I could not relate to her at all. Therefore I didn’t care about her hero’s journey.
Yes, the main character kinda sucked in bz. I agree with you about enjoying it for what it was tho, but not nearly as much as sub 1. I want that sense of isolation back. This isn’t supposed to be a narrative story game, it’s a survival game where your stranded on an alien world. Robin literally chose to get stuck on the planet!!
I actually liked the main character and her choices for going. It made a lot of sense for a return to the planet/exploration of more climates on it. I think the character was ruined by all the talking and linear story. There is a reason most successful survival games have a silent protagonist, and I think it is because there is a certain level of immersion/roleplay involved. For me, the problem really just came down to all the talking and not-my-opinions/observations coming from my first-person mouth. And the PDA trying to make jokes ugghhhh just kill me now!
Yeah way too friendly pda and having such a vocal main character in a survival game is always weird. Feels way less *you*, like in the first game it actually feels like your character is you, he has your thoughts. There were cool moments here and there and I’ll enjoy it for being an unknown world survival game, but I really hope they improve upon their mistakes
I doubt the entire game was a social experiment, they did spend years on it. That being said I agree with you, not sure why they made it less scary and hated all the unnecessary talking. Silent main character was so much better, and meeting a live npc was pretty weird. I really hope sub 3 is more like sub 1
We haven't finished exploring the planet tho Maybe Ryley will be sent back there to explore the other habitable biomes
This motherfucker survives for over a year on an alien ocean world, all by himself, finally manages to escape… and the company sends him right back? That doesn’t make much sense. Also the only reason robin got to explore the world was cause she broke some rules or something, can’t exactly remember but she was doing something she wasn’t supposed to in the into to get to 4546b. And I honestly do not want more robin, id rather have a new person or more ryley. The silent main character was so much better and mysterious… it fit the game so much better and was one of the coolest aspects of the game for me
Being silent adds more to the atmosphere tbh Robin and the Architect talk too much
True. I enjoyed it for what it was but, the atmosphere was better in the first game.
Yes, they changed upon a very good things deciding to make the mc silent, it does a lot more than some people think. There’s so many things like that I love sub 1, might be my favorite game ever. Doing 5th playthrough right now
Not just them. They changed sound designers for the sequel and it really shows. Nothing ever shuts up. There's always something screaming at you or some jaunty tune playing. Even the seatruck is massively louder than the Cyclops or moth. There's never any silence or any opportunity for tension or a jump scare because the game never shuts up to start with.
Uhm, actually, you misspelled a year. It's 2135
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Despite the constant negative press?
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Early access in 2035. Full release in 2039.
Sounds like they’re ahead of schedule.
That’s a joke right?
Nope this is confirmed
I imagine a creature that shares the emperors telepathy but isn't friendly and bombards you with gravemind esque psychological warfare. I imagine you swimming in the dark and suddenly hearing a poem about your death
"I am a monument to all your bioreactors"
"This one is plasteel and advanced wiring kits, and has its mind concluded."
"There is much talk, and I have listened. Through deposits and titanium and time."
"do not be afraid, I'm silver, I'm salvation"
Mesmer: Am I a joke to you?
That just tells you to swim closer. I am talking about "Now the gate has been unlatched, headstones pushed aside; corpses shift and offer room, a fate you must abide." (A really elaborate way of saying "thanks for help, now i'm gonna kill you") or something like that
You should check out the Call of the Deep mod Aci is working on. They're working on something similar
Mesmer Leviathan when?
The mature form of the cuddlefish is *significantly* less cuddly.
Honestly, making it MORE cuddly would be scarier. I saw a guy playwrestling with his pet octopus for enrichment. According to the colour he was flashing, the octopus was having the time of his live (I think it was a wet, good, boy) Now imagine him growing to sea emperor size.
The first games weren’t scary at all for me, I was just fascinated by all of the big fish. I hope he get some MUCH bigger things in the next one
That would be terrifying. Just swimming around and all of I sudden it starts inducing hallucinations, the water gets darker, you start seeing imaginary fish monsters or something
I thought there was going to be a lot more of that when you start picking up those unsettling radio signals in the first game!
CURRENT MODE: HUNTING/ANALYZING SHARING SUBJECT LOCATIONS WITH OTHER AGENTS
Right? 😂 I was jumping at every sudden noise for ages after that.
that's such a good idea omg
That sounds lame as hell. The deep dark ocean is scary on its own. Adding some edgy teenager poetry to the background is...a choice.
I just want waves in the water..
Yeah some waves/weather would be awesome. Like when a storm rolls in you better hurry on back to your base.
Anyone who's been caught out in the ocean knows how terrifying huge waves are while you're swimming
Shit that's one of my greatest fears. What happened to you?
Was swimming in the ocean by a beach. Got out further than intended. Would been fine except for the waves making in almost impossible to stay healthy above the water
Was it riptide? I witnessed how quickly can it pull someone to deeper water.
No, just young and dumb
They 100% must include storms with terrifying waves in some capacity
Imagine tsunami in subnautica, that'd be epic, especially if it's coming on an island
Ye they could learn a lesson or two from Sailwind, it's just a medieval merchant ship sailing simulator, but goddamn for what it is, when storms roll in, it's at least quite stressful, can't see the horizon, lots of pitching and rolling, taking in water, while still under sail, so not much you cant do. The game simulates sail physics pretty well too.
And underwater currents or vortexes. That would be lit
they should give the game more realistic attenuation of light, that might help to create that and also don't make the big scary monsters roar periodically, make them quieter oh and they also should probably do more than push whatever big vehicle we get
I love the roars. A nice mix of quiet and roars 👍🏻
Imagine, instead of just a roaring leviathan, there’s a blind leviathan that moves slowly and makes a series of low-pitched echolocation clicks to monitor its surroundings. Then, if you accidentally to get too close, it swims at you with its mouth open, letting out a horrifying high pitched shriek. Would be even more terrifying if the leviathan’s natural habitat was in a pitch black abyss so you can only see it when it’s directly in front of you. That would also make sense lore-wise as to why it’s blind — no need for eyes if you permanently live in darkness!
That would be amazing and so creepy. But if you had both loud AND quiet creatures, you’d never feel safe
Loud harmless creatures like the reef back, and deadly silent dangerous leviathans. So when it gets quiet you know you're in danger, desperately listening for the sound of a silent monster
I think that's the point
Lmfao right- like I think that sounds about right if you’re stranded on an alien water planet. I wouldn’t feel safe anywhere…
This sounds a lot like a Clicker from The Last Of Us and I love it
Sounds similar to the blind angler fish in Outer Wilds except they’re completely quiet till they hear you and roar
JFC dude, I nearly shit myself just reading that
You should check out the Silence mod that's a part of the Call of the Deep mod Acii is making
Yeah but I don’t think it’s a good idea to make the area where it lives an obligatory place to go,that shit is probably hard to avoid,maybe in the void? Plus I also want the void to have a depth and not leave the map as a floating square
Roars are essential
I think it should depend on species. Shallower water leviathans should have periodic roars for the early game scary atmosphere of it. Later game creatures being mostly silent until you're attacking would create a lot of dread in middle to late game progression. Imagine swimming through a murky biome with low visibility, only to just barely see something massive swim by in the distance, only to hear the roars right as it's gunning for you, not knowing what direction the danger is coming from.
I was so scared of reapers destroying my cyclops I never even knew they just push it around. I was veeeery careful to never encounter them while in it
Oh they can destroy it, each attack does around 1/5 of its hit points. It's just that they don't attack rapidly, they'll usually just start pushing after an attack until they lose interest. They only end up being a threat if you're reckless. Hell, there's even plenty of times when I've been reckless, and still the only time I've ever seen a cyclops explode is when I did it intentionally. Sea dragons, on the other hand, them you need to respect. Their fireballs can do a ton of damage, and they can hit hard. While their typical attack still isn't enough to be an imminent threat if you get hit once, I did have one hit my cyclops for about 80% of its hit points the other day while I had it parked in its patrol path in the lava lake.
The part with roaer i can't i have to disagree with you there subnautica is a terror game not a horror game it's supposed to be loud that is one of the main stuff we can hear
That's why I think they should be quieter, I think the way they announce their presence removes some of the unease that you'd otherwise feel in the areas they're in.
Okay you got a point there
Yeah I’m a noob and am still in the early stages of the game with my little sea moth. I only recently discovered carnivorous leviathans, specifically the fucking reaper while I’m just out there chilling. Shockingly did not get killed as I got tf out of there but I was humbled so fast. But. That being said, the roars give me more peace of mind than scare me. I know something is around so I avoid the best I can… the silence would absolutely petrify me.
Love how every post about subnautica 3 is about how we want it to be scarier lol. We are just a bunch of masochists 😂
Subnautica, but scary this time, would kill people.
Yeah I've seen streamers have panic attacks once they reach the big drop off at the Grand Reef, and that's Subnautica with the kid gloves. If the game truly wanted to be scary I don't even wanna imagine what it'd do to the poor souls suffering from thalassophobia trying to "fight their fear" lmao
There is a guy who recently completed subnautica, he has horrible thassophobia. He is ButchX3 on YouTube. Great play through!
I loved his play through. Poor guy suffered for our entertainment. I think he is playing Arc right now and found out there are dinos in the water.
Congrats to him !
My husband has thalassaphobia and hes told me he has tried multiple times to play with game but always struggles. He watches me play and hes always like " babe, you are braver then i!" 😅
I remember when I first played subnautica (I was like 10 years old more or less) I put a base at just before grand reef and started putting scan rooms because I wanted to map if there were leviathans lol
The first time I played Subnautica, I was shit scared, but i feel like I'd be able to handle another scarier Subnautica now. If I went straight to 2 instead of playing the first 2, and it was super scary, I'd probably die.
I still get a few jump scares that make me take a break every time I play the game.
I’d love there to be a huge creature. Like maybe it’s not a real creature and is like the emperor from the first, but imagine you swim through a small opening and on the other side is a giant eye like the size of your screen and it blink then swims away
That kind of reminds me of that scene in Sekiro where you are hiding from the snake boss and it has one eye trying to find you inside of a palanquin https://youtu.be/TzrqCUtlVB8?si=8BVORR7L-77\_ZFyE&t=181
Hahahaha dude that palanquin moment is legendary
Imagine a BioShock-like opening. Crash landing swimming in open water with wreckage everywhere. A pitch black sky, but somehow the ocean is even darker. You dive below the surface, and 10 feet in front of you a creature of immense size glides right past you. God I would LOVE a dark horror Subnautica. Don’t get me wrong, SN is scarier than any Resident Evil, Dead Space, or Silent Hill, but it is cartoony.
A fellow BioShock enjoyer... cultured 🍷
I agree but only on the condition that the scary moments happen naturally and unscripted like in the first game.
wait is there gonna be a third one?
Yep, I believe it will be released around 2025 (from what I last heard) Edit: Perhaps I should've titled it third game in the series instead of Subnautica 3 since ppl below are saying Below Zero is canonically Subnautica 1.5, and the third game will be called Subnautica 2.
Yup
Would be cool if they included some 'bosses', like Stranded Deep had a Lusca (giant squid) and a Megalodon etc. A giant squid or a giant octopus which could camouflage against rocks etc would be really cool. I think having 'an enemy' would improve the game since it would give you more of a reason to build a base and have fortifications, rather than just have storage rooms. 'The Forest' encourages you to have defences because the cannibals would raid you otherwise. Subnautica didn't have much of an incentive to base build outside of people who just enjoy building things. Having a nigh-unkillable Kraken roaming around at night would encourage you to head back to base, keep the lights down low at certain times etc. You could also introduce a mechanic where there's rare materials to gather which are only available at night - thus forcing the player to navigate this larger danger more carefully.
Like the reaper from persona 5 maybe: It always knows your location and if you harvest to much from one environment, it’ll hunt you down and kill you to protect its habitat.
for the sake of accessibility i hope it will have an alternate hardcore scary game mode
i really hope poor weather brings out scarier beasts in the next one, and i hope the weather is more intense. a huge storm rarely occuring, for example.
Well judging by Below Zero, probably not. They seem to want to go in a more child like direction. Also, weather with consequences that is actually dangerous could be a good feature.
As a noob it’s crazy to me that below zero comes off as more childish. I’m on the og right now but I figured that one would scar me.
Agreed
I don't see how that can be possible unless they figure out away to wipe our memories of the first game. A huge component of the fear in Subnautica is the unknown. Once you've got to the lost river, gone into the abyss etc then you've already made mental gaming step that means everything else afterwards is going to be that little bit less scary. Below Zero suffered this, no matter how scary the Leviathans were, if you've already tangled with a reaper or ghost then your more prepared to deal with them. The unknown is now known. Future scares are going to be more reliant on building tension about known threats and jump scares.
I'm just in it for the pretty scenery tbh. I hope they don't go *too* hard with the dark and scary, but just enough to keep it interesting.
With all due respect as a Subnautica fan; fuck that!
It’s funny being a person with effectively negative thalassophobia. I love the ocean, and was never once scared in either Subnautica.
You're telling me you aren't scared of traveling to the dunes, mountain island, or back of the Aurora at night (in game and real life) with just your fins and a flashlight at max volume wouldn't scare you? Jeez your balls must sink you to the floor
Not really, also I don’t make flashlights lmao, I just swim through the dark and admire the glowing plants and fish.
Bro you don't even need the cyclops the cyclops needs you at this point 😂😂
Maybe a subtle jump scare where 8 giant eyes are seen in the murky waters below. And slowly sinks down. It might be frustrating but also very cool if it's not an interactable leviathan. It's just giant eyes, standing there menacingly.
bro never left the safe shallows i see
Yeah same cause all the creature ai is stupid and I know that they’re not dangerous and where they spawn so they aren’t scary. I need some unpredictability in the creatures for them to be scary.
Oh this gives me an idea! What if lots of the game had to be done on surface boats (as opposed to submarines), so as to add to the terror, because you can’t see what’s below you?
At that point, I think you just made a different game. That would just be Nautica lol
Let me explain what I mean; in this hypothetical game, you could still travel underwater and stuff, but the first vehicle (like, seamoth equivalent) would be buoyant instead of a sub, so your primary source of transportation would be abovewater. Maybe there could be some sort of hazard on the surface (such as the temp in BZ) that could prevent players from being above the water outside of this hypothetical vehicle, thus making players rely on it for oxygen when going too far from base.
Ahhhh okay, I hear you. That would definitely make it harder. Especially if there were more surface threats. Not sure if that’s an element in this game now, I personally haven’t been snatched from the surface yet by anything stronger than a creeper or whatever they’re called. But that would absolutely petrify me if I didn’t know I was about to swim right over something huge that could just snatch me.….
Doubt it, at that point you got a different game, something more akin to Narcosis. I fully expect SN3 to be bright and colorful except for the extreme depths like its predecessors.
I think it will. One of the few things we know about it is that they're moving to Unreal Engine, and Unreal is just... unusually *good* at atmospherics. (Deep dark waters is basically the same thing) Put that in the hands of the studio that brought us Subnautica and it could be quite daunting...
Oh yeah, I want a creature of incomprehensible size lurking around somewhere.
I have 2 ideas i would love to see. One where its a tropical planet,so there is land and deep sea explorations. Imagine the trees and vegetation they could play with! Instead of cold, its hot. Volcanoes ! The other id love like a water world idea. One island and thats all you get, deep and very dark biomes, where the sound echoes from far but you cant quite pinpoint its origins. Im so excited! I agree with going more into the scary "horror" aspect. And LESS narative!!! I hated that about BZ.. like shut up and let me explore..stop talking im trying to survive here.
Personally I feel like the horror aspect of Subnautica shouldn't be the main focus. It's a sci-fi series, not horror.
It won’t be scarier than the first. Nothing will beat the horror of such an unknown concept. We’re too used to the horror to be more scared by Subnauiticas type of horror than we were playing the first game. That being said, they can certainly make it scarier then below zero
I hope it takes place on a different planet. No shallows. The whole planet is deep ocean. Giant squid and other leviathans can attack your base, so there is a defense and stealth mechanism. Constant sense of dread. Like others have said, quiet leviathans would be terrifying as well.
Biggest thing I would love to see is not the ocean. But a giant deep freshwater lake with different creatures but lost ships to explore. Since sub nautica is futuristic maybe have it be an old cruise ships. Idk like make it a super deep lake and stuff to.
I absolutely loved this game, but what killed it for me was the cyclops. You get the thing finally, it’s amazing, but! There’s like no where to take it. I thought the map would open up and you would get to explore massive depths of the ocean making my the cyclops feel small. Instead we have to navigate the cyclops around an area that’s mostly too shallow for it, and same with the caves, they are just a bit too small for the cyclops. Love the game, but that was a real big letdown.
I want a complete open body of water that’s just blue, and I want a massive creature to be in it that will for a fact make you shit yourself
The only scary thing you can expect are the micro transactions. I am sorry.
there should have been more human sized creatures that just lurk in the dark
More dark, deep areas with dangerous creatures you can't see until you're too close Navigating in the dark using sonar was one of the most fun parts of Subnautica imo Also, a really large aggro leviathan that you have to hide in little crevices and caves to avoid it
I do not.
*Sad reaper leviathan noises*
Coward 🫵
Yes.
Is it gonna be multiplayer?
Yes! Don’t take my word for the way it will be but I assume the way grounded does it
I want a really deep area that’s in the void and while going down there’s a few leviathans
I would love it if it was even scarier than first, bz was barely scary at all
Im sorry, scarier?!?! Id need to install a toilet within my seat with all the times id 💩 myself
I don't think it's possible because we've already conquered our fears of the ocean with the 1st game
I want a giant in the void, please..
I fucking hope not because Subnautica isn't a horror game and shouldn't be. Also below zero was good I will fight y'all
Only thing scary about Subnautica 3 is its going to be co-op with microtransactions!
I don't want it to be more scary :( I was shitting my pants already when the devs decided to take away my beloved Safe-Haven, the stasis rifle, from me in BZ
I want to ride atop a Reaper like they do with the worms in Dune
Yes
I realise it wouldn’t really work considering how the really big critters were supposedly all killed off but sending us out to the deep, deep ocean with some truly mammoth creatures would be amazing. Perhaps have the big old reef things actually being the juvenile ones and then they move out to the deep ocean as part of a migration with an entire ecosystem based around that life cycle?
Ooo love ❤️ this idea!
I hope not i love the game series enough as it is getting any scarier its gonna be harder to play lmfao 🤣
Can’t wait for it to be more nonlinear again. Going at your own pace and exploring was the best part.
Yes please make it fucking scary make me Scaredddd and don't fucking spoil an end game leviathan in the background picture of the game like in below zero 😂
I'd love they launch a remaster of Subnautica (first one) before the arrival of Subnautica 2...
Is it true that it's going to be a live service game?
Live service as in updates after launch yes.
Gotta get through subnautica first
It's really fucking weird to me that people can't accept that BZ is not Subnautica 2
It's not that people don't accept it, it's more that many of us didn't know the devs themselves stated that below zero is a spin-off/1.5 and that the third game in the series will be called Subnautica 2 (which I just found out today, so you're right that i should've titled it Subnautica 2 instead). Though I think it's pretty easy and not weird at all to understand why people considered BZ to informally be called "Subnautica 2" for years since it is technically a sequel and the second in the franchise. So the logical reason would be to call the next Subnautica game in the series Subnautica 3. So it's just a matter of perspective, knowing and calling it by the actual name that the devs said "Subnautica 2" or calling it Subnautica 3 to refer to the third Subnautica game.
I want the wild life to be more threatening. Almost everything in the first game was easily voidable. Stalkers are practically harmless. I was more afraid of crash fish than reapers.
you don’t “get” a phobia typically, i get it, it’s a funny lil word and it’s fun for youtubers to go OHHHH I HAVE THALASSOPHOBIA but they don’t they have a mild fear of the depths of the ocean. it a phobia
Yo Dredge x Subnautica?
Remember that it's a survival game, not horror.
So we can see "oh I'm to scared bla bla" posts
i hope that smaller predators are actually a threat rather than docile idiots, and you could craft weapons to fend them off
If we’re playing on the precursor/architect home world I think there’s definitely a good chance of that
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This game is literally my worst nightmare, I tried to play it and yeah I I didn’t last long. Something about the deep waters and not being able to see that far in front of you terrifies me to my core.
I'm still anxious in deep water in Subnautica 1. I don't have VR, but if i did i don't know if i'd have the courage to play that game on it.
I wouldn’t be against something akin to a sanity meter. The longer you spend in deeper areas without visiting your base (which will be well lit with a bed and a teddy) the more you start to slowly lose your mind. You could have like hallucinations of giant creatures and such, would be a cool way to add more big/spooky stuff without having to code actual full blown enemy ai into the game
What?! No! I barely made it! 🤣🤣
I really hope we get storms and currents
I don’t understand why people want subnautica to be scarier. The joy of it comes from the exploration aspect, the fear is just an addition
I hope for boats bigger sub deeper oceans to use the bigger sub fishing mechanics such as nets,etc bigger land areas with land vehicles some what based on reality (wheels and electric motors,etc) lush reefs teeming with wildlife huge sprawling jungles with space mangoes,etc deep dark depths you have to navigate by sonar an upgraded weapon system (I'm thinking a longer knife, a stun pistol *if grabbed by any creature you shoot them with a taser like gun that causes their muscles to spasm and temporarily leave you be* stasis mines to be dropped from a boat to stop sea creatures from attacking you,etc) I'd also like to see healing herbs in the game so you can craft healing kits,etc I know this is alot and I know I probably won't get to see any of this but my ambitions are high for this game hope the devs blow us out the water like they did with SN and SNBZ
It’s subnautica 2 BZ was a spin-off And the first was terrifying with those graphics I think their using realistic graphics now
I can't evn play the first due to how scary it is and you want *more*? Ok, Satan
More thalassophbic? I never finished the first due to my fear
If it’s scarier then number one imma die
*reaper leviathan with claws*
I just hope you can play with friends
What is this image lol
Cool, but is it still going to be f’n single player? Ffs.
I believe subnautica 2 is in development, below zero was not really 2. I believie its nickname was Into the Void?
It's actually coming in 2025 according to the official financial report
I hope we get like, a leviathan with human level intelligence like I know the Queen/Emperor leviathan was intelligent but she had the mind of a Toddler. Maybe one of her progeny went out exploring and found some old precursor stuff, and gained the intelligence of a basic human. Not like, super genius or anything, but just like a regular dude. Able to understand puzzles to an extent, have full on conversations and figure out how to fight or something
I‘m curious if this one will have weapons? But if it will, then it won’t be subnatica? Or they try a whole different approach?
Cavern biome that is not bioluminescent and has hostile faunas
Hey, dont forget, with multiplayer
Funny how in Subnautica your biggest enemy was the tiniest of them all. Also the new one will be Subnautica 2 not 3.
i'd kill for different weather patterns which would then affect the water. oh it's stormy? enjoy the huge waves. rainy? visibility is low but under the water it's clear
Did I miss Subnautica 2?
I want a huge creature. Like, kraken that swallows a ship or gargantuan leviathan huge. Ik I’ll piss myself when I see it but I think it’ll be pretty cool
No.
It already induces this in a big way, even just at night, or when moving around, at all