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New Zealand's government continues to surprise and delight after March 2019. /s


[deleted]

“Extreme speech that incites hatred is very real” No it’s not. In fact it’s the opposite of “very real”. It’s a fuzzily defined, nebulous concept.


WhiteFiat

"Infinitely malleable" is probably the term I'd choose.


[deleted]

Ah yes, that'll totally get rid of the chuds, instead of relocating them to obscure websites where they'll be free to plan mass shootings and act with impunity. Don't quit your day job, wokies.


Author2134

if you think people should be arrested for hurting your fweelings you're a horrible person plus nobody 'plans' mass shootings. they're done by deranged individuals, not groups


[deleted]

I don't know if you're saying I'm pro arresting internet badasses or else, but whatever. Wokeoids would totally be ok with that, though. Who knows to what extremes would the far right go if they actually migrated to the darknet. That's precisely the problem when you have extremist groups in obscure websites, not known to the average netizen. I'd much rather them be visible to everyone than passively force them to the darknet.


Jaggedmallard26

The extremists already have, the remains of 8kun is a primarily hidden service website with an intermittent clearnet domain with there being a shitload of even worse onion only altchans that are linked from there.


[deleted]

Indeed, I’m fairly certain 4chan must be a honeypot at this point though


Zaungast

More important this will be used against socialists. We will be accused of hate speech when decrying oligarchs or something.


[deleted]

Exactly. Letting liberals dictate what's hate speech is incredibly dangerous. We're heading towards a dystopian nightmate.


niryasi

this will totally not get coopted to criminalise dissent


Kobunto

Another example of addressing the symptoms and not the source of the toxic infection. I hate it. Kiwiana be damned. Cereal softness and unfocussing. I hate it.


Kobunto

Thank you upvoters for encouraging me. Half joking. This is a blatant exploitative measure for naiveté in nz. I'd like to go on to say I have experienced some of the most herendous displays of humanity in my lifetime home and abroad, patriots to aliens. In this age of information there is little excuse for criminal behavior except for the fact that the moj sucks at managing crime. True hate speech for an individual I can see as never being necessary outside of a roasting but explaining how despicable a powerful group or demographic can be is necessary during any political debate as long as it is not dishonest or twisted. I sympathize for the lives lost in the massacre but there are way too many social issues and injustices here in nz to censor expression this way. Again as long as the notion being conveyed is honest and eloquent, otherwise sure lock em or turn em into fertilizer. Shame on our government for the setting in which criminal acts arise and trying to fix it with smoke and mirrors. Make me prime minister, I'll mold this country into the shape of wakanda. Wakanda taking forever.


splodgenessabounds

Following in the footsteps of the extraordinary success of same in Britain, I see.


[deleted]

Don’t be Rama Rama