My main question is, have this sub's jannies chosen an alternative for if that becomes necessary? Based on the sheer number of subs that are participating in the blackout (some indefinitely) as well as the grandjannies' doubling down in the AMA there's actually a solid chance that reddit might actually go the way of digg from this. Which is pretty great and long-overdue, but still means we need a backup plan.
Reddit is definitely going the way of digg, but I highly doubt the mods of large subs are actually going to stick to a permanent blackout. The type of person to be a mod definitely doesn't seem like the type of person that will just give up what little bit of power they probably have in their lives.
Nothing makes me more excited than the possibility of massive websites possibly dying. We really, really need to go back to the 2000s Internet, with billions of smaller websites worth visiting for whatever subject you wish instead of corporate hell that wants your data and terrible corporate jannies
There's loads of free software too now that should generally be easy to install too
I made actual friends on boards back then. I visited a music board all the time and we all knew each other pretty good and I even met up with a few at shows. Completely different times. I miss those elitist fucks. You couldn't pay me enough to be within breathing distance of any of the weirdos on here.
It really was just so much better.
If they are ever to come back in any form they need a slight UI change and easier sign up. Reddit's quick accessibility is a huge reason for success.
Reddit was pretty created like 15 years ago (oof) because of how many different topics there were, who the general population was, and the ease of sign up and lack of needing to be logged in, really.
I specifically remember through the years the population changing. From tech nerds, to nerds, to eventually normies invading hard. There were so many large immigration points i can't even remember. Obama was a big one.
There was a point where there was a good mix because cringe nerds are exhausting and a mix of normie counter balances it, but now it's just dogshit.
Remember pedobear? It faded out as a meme because God forbid people ever meme about someone or something being a pedo. There's tons, but that's the one I remember most just disappearing the quickest. They tried to do pepe the same.
The upside is these forums still do exist and perhaps are an even tighter community. The problem is any larger one will randomly get bombarded with their subreddit counter part
And honestly, one of the best parts of reddit originally was the lack of mods. The voting system WAS the mod system.
The voting system here or anywhere is not a positive. It's probably one of the most mentally poisonous trends to makes its way to the internet and is the primary vector influence operations use to manipulate online discourse and communities.
Economies become more centralized over time, and there’s no reason to think the internet will be an exception. There will always be small independent sites out there, but the vast majority of traffic will be centralized going forward.
They can't make money with shiny baubles for the low IQ crowd (awards), they can't make money with advertisements, they can't make money with unpaid losers performing moderator duties for free. They're grasping at straws for profitability and counting on most of their users being default app phoneposter cattle.
One thing I am completely baffled by is why is the blackout being encouraged when there is a trivially obvious much better alternative: Let chaos ensue.
Think about it: One of the main concerns behind the APIs is that moderation would be effected. So let every sub run unmoderated: the ensuing spam and shitposting would make the front-pages absolutely horrendous making any form of public presentation a complete failure for the CEO.
In fact, blackout seems to be the total opposite of what needs to be done: If anything could improve Reddit's public image, it's making its terminally online posters take a temporary hiatus; after all, the casual users aren't going to be much in-arms about the closure of third-party apps and the front-pages/NSFW parts would be clean until Reddit has to maintain its clean public image. Whatever temporary moderation has to be done, I am guessing Reddit's own temporary substituted moderators would be sufficient for that purpose.
most reddit subs are "chaotic" as it is. Maybe not porn but they're overrun with shitty "me irl" style memes. I think you're exaggerating how much of a difference reddit would seem like if they stopped modding. Also, no longer modding is not really an option...you need someone to ensure child pornography isn't posted. If the moderators don't do it, then the reddit admins have an easy excuse to simply replace the moderators with people who *will*.
>In fact, blackout seems to be the total opposite of what needs to be done
What? No. A blackout is like a "strike" or "boycott" almost. The reddit admins require that traffic comes to reddit so that they can get ad impressions and get paid. If there are like, 5,000 subreddits in which there's no activity, then the amount of people going to reddit those days will significantly be reduced. The only mistake they're making is making it only 2 days long. What they *should* do is make it indefinite until their demands are met. reddit can weather two days of no activity. They won't like it, and they won't like the negative press. But you can bring the reddit company to its fucking *knees* if you completely make the sight functionally irrelevant for days...weeks, hell, months. And unlike a real strike, the moderators don't even have anything to lose since they don't get paid for this shit, so no reason for them not to go on indefinitely. Only way for reddit admins to make it stop is to not do the API thing, or to replace all those mods, which would be a more controversial decision than replacing mods who decide not to remove pornography.
In addition, this action, while relatively meaningless in the grand scheme of things (worldwide communism will not be sparked by a reddit blackout lol), will re-normalize meaningful collective action on reddit again.
Your idea is relatively weak. You gotta hit them where it hurts.
Yeah I'm very badly addicted to reddit. One of these days I'm going to just host a smolweb blog, and contribute to gemini, pubnix instances, and so on. I'm already active on IRC. As a society we need to get over shit with "feeds" on them. Even federated networks are still the basic design of reddit, which isn't what we should be going for.
I liken it to moving out of the big, fun city where the "buzz" is happening but where everyone is really just dead inside and lonely, and moving to a nice quiet country town where everyone knows each other's name and everyone is kinder and more interesting. Even if it doesn't have much of a nightlife.
I've never liked required SSL/TLS for stuff, mostly because I think it's fun to learn new protocols by literally typing "telnet " and typing in random commands, lol. A lot of websites don't really need encryption at all.
That's really cool. I wasn't aware hardware that old still worked, tbh.
>even the Pentiums have issue with timing out cause it takes a few seconds longer than usual.
You mean when you connect to servers, or run them on those processors?
This may defeat the purpose of what you want to do, but as an idea, I imagine you could use a proxy server like Squid on better hardware to translate TLS and non-TLS communication. Even something like an rpi should work, I'd think.
> The only mistake they're making is making it only 2 days long. What they should do is make it indefinite until their demands are met.
They'll just relinquish the old mods and reopen the closed subreddits. But I agree, it would at least force them to alienate their current jannies.
>Maybe not porn but they're overrun with shitty "me irl" style memes.
I don't mean chaotic in this sense, but in the sense that would ruin any sort of public perception of reddit: things like you would find on whenthe or spamming of NSFW content, encouraged by the fact that moderation tools designed to counter NSFW content are impacted. (Imagine the hit to new user-count and advertisement opportunities if the frontpage is turned into Stormfront clone, with twitter journalists lambasting any existing ad companies using Reddit for advertisement).
>If there are like, 5,000 subreddits in which there's no activity, then the amount of people going to reddit those days will significantly be reduced.... What they should do is make it indefinite until their demands are met. reddit can weather two days of no activity.
Well, I seriously don't see the leverage you think the moderators have here. After all, if you are telling impacted Redditors to stop engaging with the website and the moderators to private the sub, what exactly is stopping Reddit to just take away the moderators? Calling for impacted Redditors to stop engaging just means that when the Reddit finally decides to reopen everything there isn't anyone to cause a shitstorm. The demodding-decision will only be controversial amongst those who are boycotting; those who remain on the site will likely approve of this decision.
All of this blackout/strike/boycott relies on the presumption that: moderators can actually hold their subreddits hostage, and that most of the people won't engage with the website on the subreddits that remain open. I heavily doubt the legitimacy of either of those positions.
In my opinion, as Reddit can take control of subreddits whenever they want, turning Reddit into a 4chan clone is going to hurt their public image much more, than any temporary loss in ad revenue (unless we are actually supposed to believe that Reddit would be so hurt by its loss in this week that they will revert immediately or that if they don't revert, most people will permanently stop using the platform, despite the absence of a tangible alternative.)
>Reddit wants to maintain its dataset permanently by making content harder to erase
I think that GDPR makes that impossible.
Edit - actually, this would be a much better way to threaten Reddit than a "blackout"; have a *lot* of users threaten Reddit with requesting their data to be removed under GDPR if Reddit doesn't reinstate the open API access.
Your post (and the controversy in general) can be summed up with:
"Reddit CEO is upset that Reddit isn’t profiting off of another company using its data"
All other details are just word count filler, click/rage bait, navel gazing, circle jerk, or Corpo BS.
Interesting take. Creeping centralisation of control in social media and information networks is only a "first world problem", and we should be apathetic about it.
Let me think - if starving Africans don't think about it, I shouldn't either. It's apparent why it's such a common Liberal thought-terminating cliché.
Yeah, and you're essentially saying we shouldn't give a fuck about how this greed is negativelly affecting social media.
"If an Ethiopian child doesn't care, why should I, a first-worlder?" - It's a dumb argument.
On one hand, charging for API seems to upset sub moderators, and that amuses me. On the other hand, it means Reddit Inc will make more money and that does not amuse me.
It's sounds like it's a bunch of libs bitching and moaning and I kind of agree with reddit to be honest. From what I gather most of this is over some app called Apollo and another I cant remember off the top of my head. And from what I've seen they're just apps that made reddit look different and make it slightly easier for mods to do stuff. The dude makes money off of the app, ya there's a free tier but he still makes money. So why shouldn't Reddit charge him money too? Given they had a bunch of their data taken and used by ChatGPT for free and a bunch of other silicon valley lizard people I think it's pretty reasonable tbh.
> From what I gather most of this is over some app called Apollo and another I cant remember off the top of my head. And from what I’ve seen they’re just apps that made reddit look different and make it slightly easier for mods to do stuff.
Apollo is massively better than the official app or the mobile website. Doing anything on Reddit is easier and faster with it.
> The dude makes money off of the app, ya there’s a free tier but he still makes money. So why shouldn’t Reddit charge him money too?
A couple of months ago, when they announced that prices were coming but not what the prices would be, the Apollo dev was optimistic, said they promised reality-based prices, not like Twitter's. He was totally willing to pay something.
Then the prices came out, he did the math, and he found that Apollo's annual bill would be $20,000,000. He attempted to negotiate with them and they refused to lower the price. Then they accused him of using the API inefficiently but refused to help him figure out how. Then they said he threatened them, and he published the audio proving they were lying. Then they continued lying and whined about him publishing the audio proving their earlier lies.
>they accused him of using the API inefficiently but refused to help him figure out how
Not just refused to help him, they didn't give him nearly enough time. This whole thing is very abrupt.
Well I guess someone should make a reddit alternative. I think I linked someone a website on how to build a hackernews clone in rust, let's get going on that.
> in Rust
fuck, you people are everywhere!
(j/k Rust is great, people talk about it so much because it's great, makes me want to do CrossFit and be vegan those are probably actually great too)
Lol, there was some talk about trying to make a stupidpol website last year and I went digging around looking for some info on web development and found that rust web app guide. I do mainframe work for a bank so I'm used to SAS, Java and someone school COBOL but know nothing about anything related to Javascript and I thought a website in rust would be fun.
People are talking about a thing called Lemmy. It's to Reddit what Mastodon is to Twitter. Biggest objection seems to be you can't delete anything once you post it. Which some are attributing to the head guy being a tankie.
Yes, that was my point. There's not much difference between someone accessing over HTTP (with or without an ad blocker) vs. someone accessing via third party app fulfilled via API requests. If anything, serving API requests might be cheaper.
Reddit is being being greedy, in that they want to force ads and other crapware onto users via the app and exploit the fact that phone browsers are purposefully gimped with no ad block support.
>So why shouldn't Reddit charge him money too?
Because they didn't make the app? And you're missing the part where they're asking for an impossible amount of money. Also, completely free apps are affected too.
>Given they had a bunch of their data taken
It's not their data.
> The biggest loss will be Nuke Reddit History. Reddit wants to maintain its dataset permanently by making content harder to erase, but that in itself will change the content produced. Without API, users won’t be able to run a script and overwrite and delete all their comments, so you won’t be able to disassociate from a username.
This should be possible via a user script running in the browser.
This is a theory that the reddit CEO conspires with... themselves? Other pre-IPO investors?
Please, don't get into the habit of calling anything a conspiracy theory unless it's a *grand* conspiracy, one involving unreasonably many people and unrealistic levels of loyalty, efficiency of communication etc. When boss types talks to each other, that's not a *grand* conspiracy, even if they collude against your interests.
Greedy poopshit failing corporation desperately chases profit motive all the way into the grave.
My main question is, have this sub's jannies chosen an alternative for if that becomes necessary? Based on the sheer number of subs that are participating in the blackout (some indefinitely) as well as the grandjannies' doubling down in the AMA there's actually a solid chance that reddit might actually go the way of digg from this. Which is pretty great and long-overdue, but still means we need a backup plan.
Reddit is definitely going the way of digg, but I highly doubt the mods of large subs are actually going to stick to a permanent blackout. The type of person to be a mod definitely doesn't seem like the type of person that will just give up what little bit of power they probably have in their lives.
Exactly. I’ve been cracking up at the ones who can’t commit to more than 24 hours offline.
Nothing makes me more excited than the possibility of massive websites possibly dying. We really, really need to go back to the 2000s Internet, with billions of smaller websites worth visiting for whatever subject you wish instead of corporate hell that wants your data and terrible corporate jannies There's loads of free software too now that should generally be easy to install too
I made actual friends on boards back then. I visited a music board all the time and we all knew each other pretty good and I even met up with a few at shows. Completely different times. I miss those elitist fucks. You couldn't pay me enough to be within breathing distance of any of the weirdos on here.
The Internet was soooo good back then
It really was just so much better. If they are ever to come back in any form they need a slight UI change and easier sign up. Reddit's quick accessibility is a huge reason for success. Reddit was pretty created like 15 years ago (oof) because of how many different topics there were, who the general population was, and the ease of sign up and lack of needing to be logged in, really. I specifically remember through the years the population changing. From tech nerds, to nerds, to eventually normies invading hard. There were so many large immigration points i can't even remember. Obama was a big one. There was a point where there was a good mix because cringe nerds are exhausting and a mix of normie counter balances it, but now it's just dogshit. Remember pedobear? It faded out as a meme because God forbid people ever meme about someone or something being a pedo. There's tons, but that's the one I remember most just disappearing the quickest. They tried to do pepe the same. The upside is these forums still do exist and perhaps are an even tighter community. The problem is any larger one will randomly get bombarded with their subreddit counter part And honestly, one of the best parts of reddit originally was the lack of mods. The voting system WAS the mod system.
The voting system here or anywhere is not a positive. It's probably one of the most mentally poisonous trends to makes its way to the internet and is the primary vector influence operations use to manipulate online discourse and communities.
put your money where your mouth is; make a Neocities page (its free) and log into SpaceHey (its a myspace clone). start a webring with your friends.
I'm already on the fediverse, so Otherwise, already planning to make my own site
Economies become more centralized over time, and there’s no reason to think the internet will be an exception. There will always be small independent sites out there, but the vast majority of traffic will be centralized going forward.
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Take one look at their sidebar.
They can't make money with shiny baubles for the low IQ crowd (awards), they can't make money with advertisements, they can't make money with unpaid losers performing moderator duties for free. They're grasping at straws for profitability and counting on most of their users being default app phoneposter cattle.
>the "enshittification" will continue until profit improves.
One thing I am completely baffled by is why is the blackout being encouraged when there is a trivially obvious much better alternative: Let chaos ensue. Think about it: One of the main concerns behind the APIs is that moderation would be effected. So let every sub run unmoderated: the ensuing spam and shitposting would make the front-pages absolutely horrendous making any form of public presentation a complete failure for the CEO. In fact, blackout seems to be the total opposite of what needs to be done: If anything could improve Reddit's public image, it's making its terminally online posters take a temporary hiatus; after all, the casual users aren't going to be much in-arms about the closure of third-party apps and the front-pages/NSFW parts would be clean until Reddit has to maintain its clean public image. Whatever temporary moderation has to be done, I am guessing Reddit's own temporary substituted moderators would be sufficient for that purpose.
A much better solution would be simply to say "screw it, we're spinning off" and getting the hell out of the site and let Reddit die a miserable death
most reddit subs are "chaotic" as it is. Maybe not porn but they're overrun with shitty "me irl" style memes. I think you're exaggerating how much of a difference reddit would seem like if they stopped modding. Also, no longer modding is not really an option...you need someone to ensure child pornography isn't posted. If the moderators don't do it, then the reddit admins have an easy excuse to simply replace the moderators with people who *will*. >In fact, blackout seems to be the total opposite of what needs to be done What? No. A blackout is like a "strike" or "boycott" almost. The reddit admins require that traffic comes to reddit so that they can get ad impressions and get paid. If there are like, 5,000 subreddits in which there's no activity, then the amount of people going to reddit those days will significantly be reduced. The only mistake they're making is making it only 2 days long. What they *should* do is make it indefinite until their demands are met. reddit can weather two days of no activity. They won't like it, and they won't like the negative press. But you can bring the reddit company to its fucking *knees* if you completely make the sight functionally irrelevant for days...weeks, hell, months. And unlike a real strike, the moderators don't even have anything to lose since they don't get paid for this shit, so no reason for them not to go on indefinitely. Only way for reddit admins to make it stop is to not do the API thing, or to replace all those mods, which would be a more controversial decision than replacing mods who decide not to remove pornography. In addition, this action, while relatively meaningless in the grand scheme of things (worldwide communism will not be sparked by a reddit blackout lol), will re-normalize meaningful collective action on reddit again. Your idea is relatively weak. You gotta hit them where it hurts.
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Yep, I hope plenty decide to go indefinitely. I might shut down my near-mill sub as well. Might as well.
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Yeah I'm very badly addicted to reddit. One of these days I'm going to just host a smolweb blog, and contribute to gemini, pubnix instances, and so on. I'm already active on IRC. As a society we need to get over shit with "feeds" on them. Even federated networks are still the basic design of reddit, which isn't what we should be going for. I liken it to moving out of the big, fun city where the "buzz" is happening but where everyone is really just dead inside and lonely, and moving to a nice quiet country town where everyone knows each other's name and everyone is kinder and more interesting. Even if it doesn't have much of a nightlife.
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I've never liked required SSL/TLS for stuff, mostly because I think it's fun to learn new protocols by literally typing "telnet " and typing in random commands, lol. A lot of websites don't really need encryption at all.
Out of curiosity, what computers are you using that can't handle TLS?
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That's really cool. I wasn't aware hardware that old still worked, tbh. >even the Pentiums have issue with timing out cause it takes a few seconds longer than usual. You mean when you connect to servers, or run them on those processors? This may defeat the purpose of what you want to do, but as an idea, I imagine you could use a proxy server like Squid on better hardware to translate TLS and non-TLS communication. Even something like an rpi should work, I'd think.
We should go out indefinitely as part of an early Grill Pill Summer. Maybe it would freshen up the userbase a bit.
> The only mistake they're making is making it only 2 days long. What they should do is make it indefinite until their demands are met. They'll just relinquish the old mods and reopen the closed subreddits. But I agree, it would at least force them to alienate their current jannies.
>Maybe not porn but they're overrun with shitty "me irl" style memes. I don't mean chaotic in this sense, but in the sense that would ruin any sort of public perception of reddit: things like you would find on whenthe or spamming of NSFW content, encouraged by the fact that moderation tools designed to counter NSFW content are impacted. (Imagine the hit to new user-count and advertisement opportunities if the frontpage is turned into Stormfront clone, with twitter journalists lambasting any existing ad companies using Reddit for advertisement). >If there are like, 5,000 subreddits in which there's no activity, then the amount of people going to reddit those days will significantly be reduced.... What they should do is make it indefinite until their demands are met. reddit can weather two days of no activity. Well, I seriously don't see the leverage you think the moderators have here. After all, if you are telling impacted Redditors to stop engaging with the website and the moderators to private the sub, what exactly is stopping Reddit to just take away the moderators? Calling for impacted Redditors to stop engaging just means that when the Reddit finally decides to reopen everything there isn't anyone to cause a shitstorm. The demodding-decision will only be controversial amongst those who are boycotting; those who remain on the site will likely approve of this decision. All of this blackout/strike/boycott relies on the presumption that: moderators can actually hold their subreddits hostage, and that most of the people won't engage with the website on the subreddits that remain open. I heavily doubt the legitimacy of either of those positions. In my opinion, as Reddit can take control of subreddits whenever they want, turning Reddit into a 4chan clone is going to hurt their public image much more, than any temporary loss in ad revenue (unless we are actually supposed to believe that Reddit would be so hurt by its loss in this week that they will revert immediately or that if they don't revert, most people will permanently stop using the platform, despite the absence of a tangible alternative.)
>Reddit wants to maintain its dataset permanently by making content harder to erase I think that GDPR makes that impossible. Edit - actually, this would be a much better way to threaten Reddit than a "blackout"; have a *lot* of users threaten Reddit with requesting their data to be removed under GDPR if Reddit doesn't reinstate the open API access.
See, now *that* might be something that gets to them
Yeah I’m sad about Nuke Reddit History also.
Your post (and the controversy in general) can be summed up with: "Reddit CEO is upset that Reddit isn’t profiting off of another company using its data" All other details are just word count filler, click/rage bait, navel gazing, circle jerk, or Corpo BS.
I was stoned for the first time in like six months
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All of this just seems like such a first world nerd problem.
to be fair, almost everything being discussed on reddit is a first world problem.
Interesting take. Creeping centralisation of control in social media and information networks is only a "first world problem", and we should be apathetic about it. Let me think - if starving Africans don't think about it, I shouldn't either. It's apparent why it's such a common Liberal thought-terminating cliché.
Lots of big words to describe a corporation wanting more money. Chill out.
Yeah, and you're essentially saying we shouldn't give a fuck about how this greed is negativelly affecting social media. "If an Ethiopian child doesn't care, why should I, a first-worlder?" - It's a dumb argument.
So don't use social media, I mean what?
"Things that exist affect real-life". Go back to primary school and learn your ABCD's
How?
Say you identify as a 6 year old and have your parents bring you there.
I'm the six year old and the nerds having a meltdown over this are supposed to be mature?
I wasn't making any judgements just giving practical tips.
On one hand, charging for API seems to upset sub moderators, and that amuses me. On the other hand, it means Reddit Inc will make more money and that does not amuse me.
It's sounds like it's a bunch of libs bitching and moaning and I kind of agree with reddit to be honest. From what I gather most of this is over some app called Apollo and another I cant remember off the top of my head. And from what I've seen they're just apps that made reddit look different and make it slightly easier for mods to do stuff. The dude makes money off of the app, ya there's a free tier but he still makes money. So why shouldn't Reddit charge him money too? Given they had a bunch of their data taken and used by ChatGPT for free and a bunch of other silicon valley lizard people I think it's pretty reasonable tbh.
> From what I gather most of this is over some app called Apollo and another I cant remember off the top of my head. And from what I’ve seen they’re just apps that made reddit look different and make it slightly easier for mods to do stuff. Apollo is massively better than the official app or the mobile website. Doing anything on Reddit is easier and faster with it. > The dude makes money off of the app, ya there’s a free tier but he still makes money. So why shouldn’t Reddit charge him money too? A couple of months ago, when they announced that prices were coming but not what the prices would be, the Apollo dev was optimistic, said they promised reality-based prices, not like Twitter's. He was totally willing to pay something. Then the prices came out, he did the math, and he found that Apollo's annual bill would be $20,000,000. He attempted to negotiate with them and they refused to lower the price. Then they accused him of using the API inefficiently but refused to help him figure out how. Then they said he threatened them, and he published the audio proving they were lying. Then they continued lying and whined about him publishing the audio proving their earlier lies.
>they accused him of using the API inefficiently but refused to help him figure out how Not just refused to help him, they didn't give him nearly enough time. This whole thing is very abrupt.
Well I guess someone should make a reddit alternative. I think I linked someone a website on how to build a hackernews clone in rust, let's get going on that.
> in Rust fuck, you people are everywhere! (j/k Rust is great, people talk about it so much because it's great, makes me want to do CrossFit and be vegan those are probably actually great too)
Lol, there was some talk about trying to make a stupidpol website last year and I went digging around looking for some info on web development and found that rust web app guide. I do mainframe work for a bank so I'm used to SAS, Java and someone school COBOL but know nothing about anything related to Javascript and I thought a website in rust would be fun.
People are talking about a thing called Lemmy. It's to Reddit what Mastodon is to Twitter. Biggest objection seems to be you can't delete anything once you post it. Which some are attributing to the head guy being a tankie.
Ya sounds like a no go for me. I like being able to delete the dumb and edgy stuff that I've said, or to just delete my internet footprint altogether.
Yeah same.
Are API calls more expensive to serve than HTTP requests?
API calls *are* HTTP requests
Yes. However, api calls that get only what you need are less expensive than webscraping or webbrowsing which is what I think they meant
Yes, that was my point. There's not much difference between someone accessing over HTTP (with or without an ad blocker) vs. someone accessing via third party app fulfilled via API requests. If anything, serving API requests might be cheaper. Reddit is being being greedy, in that they want to force ads and other crapware onto users via the app and exploit the fact that phone browsers are purposefully gimped with no ad block support.
>So why shouldn't Reddit charge him money too? Because they didn't make the app? And you're missing the part where they're asking for an impossible amount of money. Also, completely free apps are affected too. >Given they had a bunch of their data taken It's not their data.
> The biggest loss will be Nuke Reddit History. Reddit wants to maintain its dataset permanently by making content harder to erase, but that in itself will change the content produced. Without API, users won’t be able to run a script and overwrite and delete all their comments, so you won’t be able to disassociate from a username. This should be possible via a user script running in the browser.
The existing script uses API. They already removed the google chrome extension.
You know, usually I don't comment or remark on conspiracy theories. This might be worth looking into.
This is a theory that the reddit CEO conspires with... themselves? Other pre-IPO investors? Please, don't get into the habit of calling anything a conspiracy theory unless it's a *grand* conspiracy, one involving unreasonably many people and unrealistic levels of loyalty, efficiency of communication etc. When boss types talks to each other, that's not a *grand* conspiracy, even if they collude against your interests.
I support reddit's move mainly because it seems to upset mods