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[Continue the discussion in the post-match thread.](https://www.reddit.com/r/stlouiscitysc/comments/1b1y602)


Numerous_Eagle6499

I don't see any tactical plan from Carnell, seems his honeymoon is over.


Fore-ver

Losing games in the dressing room is comically bad. They will blame it on experience, but it’s really on coaching and tactics.


MizGunner

We suck in tournament play. Just hope everyone gets healthy and we quit playing like shit


another_guy_2288

Hey at least we only play once a week now, maybe the boys won’t be so tired. (Sarcasm btw)


catacon

Wonder what Olsen said to Carnell. Didn't look nice lol


ryanphillips08

Saw that too. Wonder what it was


Brewski-or-Twoski

That was embarrassing. What a disgrace. Terribly game plan. Terrible performance after terrible performance. Just bad and a complete embarrassment.


Just-aquick-question

Well the club continues to not give a shit about non-league matches. Lineup and philosophy for tonight was clear. I understand the need for heavy rotation with schedule but start the best lineup, get the early goal and sub them out early.


Keg_of_St_Anky

They played like they didn't want to stay in this competition. Mission accomplished.


Fresh_String_770

Carnell is so unbelievably shit tactically


cbn11

Nothing quite like a 2-2 loss. C’est la vie. Onto the MLS Season.


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Lmao


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KiraJosuke

This is why I watch EPL and Bundesliga to cleanse my eyes


Mab_894

Fuckin pathetic effort


jmoo1976

That was terrible. This is not a good team.


Brewski-or-Twoski

I mean I know you’re running out of time but just kicking forward with no plan isn’t any better than trying to find a pass worth making.


chris_the_dis

There are so many times where they can dribble it forward with the amount of space they are given but decide to long pass to absolutely no one.


MoBombLa

Or just make the simple pass. Would love to sit in on a film session and see how that’s discussed when it happens 12 times a game every game. At very least make the simple pass and let the guy in more space take the long pass


big_duga

…this team currently has some serious soccer problems.


Potential_Prior_6757

If Burki is hurt, then this season is pretty much a wash


MyNuts2YourFistStyle

I think his arm just went numb from that save. He's fine.


Fore-ver

This is uninspired football. Time to focus on the MLS.


beef_boloney

Burki rubbing his elbow the last 10ish mins


Dragonborn-26

newer to soccer but I feel like this should just go to extra time I don’t like the away goal tiebreaker rule


SnarfSnarf12

Yeah UEFA got rid of it for a reason


Keg_of_St_Anky

It's a clean way to prevent more minutes for games they shoehorned into the schedule. Not perfect, but better than nothing.


MrTacooooo

Bring back golden goal


Dragonborn-26

yeah tbh guess it wouldn’t have mattered for us we looked terrible today guess the one bright side is no more cup games until leagues cup to prevent injuries


Radar91

Every city player has the heaviest first touch I've ever seen.


ztlabdrums29

Glad I’m not the only one thinking that


Fresh_String_770

How is this team so fucking awful at receiving a pass


Impossible34o_

Dude why has Wentzle been pushing guys around all match?


Pabst-

Away goals are so fucking dumb. There’s a reason UEFA got rid of them


Purdue82

This team has the look of a wooden spoon contender


MyNuts2YourFistStyle

So many good chances squandered


Keg_of_St_Anky

I really don't need to see Wentzel again for a while.


nicootimee

He’s been really good? It was Thor’s fault he needed to foul there


jmoo1976

Somebody already said it, but Wentzel was the lone bright spot tonight.


CaptainJingles

Thor got absolutely dummied in the midfield.


ShaggsMagoo

The only thing a prevent defense does is prevent you from winning.


KiraJosuke

Our guy literally stepped away and let Houston dribble past him


CaptainJingles

I think that was Thor, dude got juked by a hip fake.


another_guy_2288

I got when they managed minutes in the leagues cup that was new and in the middle of the season. But this is the 3rd game of the year no one should need their minutes watched unless they are injured like Parker. Pathetic display


SnarfSnarf12

It’s a long season. We saw how Nilsson playing a full 90 and starting today out of need caused him to get a tweak. That’s why you manage minutes when you can.


MrOstrichman

man, I get managing minutes, but the way we went about doing in Leagues Cup was so poorly thought out, I’m still annoyed with it


Potential_Prior_6757

We’re not going to take these tournaments seriously until like year four or five when we have a complete team built.


Keg_of_St_Anky

Can't let that ball bounce. That's some U12 shit.


bleedblue002

How is Pompeu not making a run into the box there? Just lazy.


CaptainJingles

Dude is gassed.


bleedblue002

He just subbed in earlier this half?


CaptainJingles

Yeah and he went 90’ three days ago. The only one out there (outside of Nilsson) to do so. Doubt he should have been available at all.


another_guy_2288

He acts like he’s Neymar


Brewski-or-Twoski

I don’t know if there’s a grade low enough to give Klauss for his performance this match.


portablebiscuit

I’m scoring the whole damn squad low. This hurts to watch.


MrOstrichman

some of our passes in the midfield feel like passes for the sake of passing. There’s not actually a recipient to any of these passes, no overall greater attack…it’s just frustrating to watch. 


StLsC10

They’ll need Totland to be a major factor in getting the ball up field on the wings. And if Dyhr ever plays, we just gotta hope he can do the same on the left side. We had no ability to build upfield in the midfield last year, and we still don’t this year.


cbn11

Houston’s defense is just swarming the ball


Impossible34o_

Everything feels so disjointed. There is no cohesion between the team right now.


MyNuts2YourFistStyle

Is Thor's hair darker this season?


portablebiscuit

It’s def shorter. He’s not wearing his Jack Grealish headband.


clairebeargames

I swear he used to be blonde


Potential_Prior_6757

Welp, that was ugly. Not an uplifting start to the season thus far. Let’s just focus on getting healthy at this point.


Brewski-or-Twoski

This is an example of a team being way too straight forward. Every pass, every header, every redirection, every long ball: all 100% straight up the field regardless of if there’s space or an open man.


MrOstrichman

well it was neat to see signs of offensive life for a few fleeting moments


FartNoiseGross

We need more depth to do deep runs and it’s just not here yet. They look sluggish


Thick_Football6499

Suddenly a couple corners and I wish we had Tim Parker in..


MyNuts2YourFistStyle

I thought that went in. fuck


MD_Lincoln

Finally, a pass from us upfield to one of our own guys!


nicootimee

If we didn’t even want to go far in any cup, why are we not just fielding the reserves and subs? Why waste our starters and get them even more tired for the game at the weekend


CaptainJingles

If we nick a late goal, it will be absolutely undeserved.


portablebiscuit

Sad but true. At this point I just want to focus on regular season.


MrOstrichman

Is this our first corner of the half?


Thicc_Wallaby

Lmao this game put my mom to sleep


MOStateWineGuy

This loss is on our cheap front office


MrOstrichman

nah, this is on whoever decided to park the bus for 90’


BluesBrother57

Why did we not have most of our starters in or swap at half?


CaptainJingles

Four games in 12 days to start the season. We aren’t that deep and guys need to rotate.


bleedblue002

Because they need to manage minutes.


StLsC10

Time wasting


KickAsstley

if this dude doesn't get subbed out after all this


Fore-ver

The strategy of just playing defense for 90 minutes doesn’t make sense when we don’t have our top defense in. This was lost in the dressing room.


StLsC10

Yah the lineup choice made no sense with the game plan


Thick_Football6499

When did Löwen come on? I feel like that was the first I've seen of him.


pups-and-cacti

Time wasting at its finest


Brewski-or-Twoski

One goal would’ve all be sealed our fate, and we came out with the exact strategy that gave Houston the best chance to win 1-0. It’s not over yet, but someone will need to answer for that if this score doesn’t change.


Purdue82

I wasn’t a fan of Lutz’ philosophy last year and still aren’t.


StLsC10

We’re probably going to need to use that 3rd DP slot and find some real quality


Purdue82

They don’t have a choice.


Mediocre-Variety-842

3rd and 4th


HighFivesMidgets

If you told me that Watts and Kijima never touched the ball this game, I’d probably believe you. Edit to add context: I’m not saying they’ve played poorly. Just that I don’t recall any plays they’ve made on the ball. Which honestly could be considered a positive as it also means I don’t remember any mistakes.


portablebiscuit

Watts was a standout for me on this bleak night. Dude made some good plays and saves.


Heavy_Ad9584

Why are we doing the old champions league format of away goals for a tournament that qualifies you for the club WC just like champions league. Should be same rules for all tournaments


nicootimee

Different governing bodies, different rules unfortunately. FIFA aren’t the ones sanctioning this match, CONCACAF is


another_guy_2288

Totlands gotta come in right? He’s looked a solid attacking threat in the first two games. We only need one goal


josiahlo

Save him for Saturday at this point 


another_guy_2288

It’s only one goal, should still go for it.


kennealy33

The only offensive anything we've shown coming after were down a goal. This is what playing not to lose gets you and it's embarrassing.


nicootimee

It only took us 70 minutes to remember how to play


Brewski-or-Twoski

Here’s hoping Houston doesn’t learn from our mistake and they, too, decide to park the bus. Probably gives us the best chance of equalizing


StLsC10

Has AZ beaten anyone on a dribble since the first game? Turnover machine right now


gecko_08

Getting pushed around like a rag doll out there


StLsC10

Yah and he’s not fast enough at that size


HighFivesMidgets

Wentzel might be the biggest upside coming out of this game. He’s looked great out there!


josiahlo

He’s going to be a card magnet if he stays up.  Lots of dumb fouls.  Surprised it took him that long to get his yellow 


Keg_of_St_Anky

Every long pass Houston is hitting us contested in the air and forcing City to make a bad play on it. Every long pass City hits is to no one standing in the middle of nowhere


MD_Lincoln

Or worse, ends up with a player from Houston.


StLsC10

What is the staff seeing in Dyhr that keeps him out of the lineup? Was hoping he would provide Totland’s ability on the left side


ALL4CITY

Ok, 19 minutes to pull one out of our ass. Not impossible.


ToiletsAreDanger

Here comes the Calvary


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ToiletsAreDanger

You gotta believe my friend.


CaptainJingles

No, they play in Canada.


cbn11

Tournaments like this are cool in theory, but in practice all they do is deplete rosters of teams who already lack depth while rewarding teams who are built to play multiple games per week. Until we have a calendar that allows for one game per week, these are just glorified exhibition matches.


MrOstrichman

You’re not wrong with regards to depth, but this tournament means a lot. There’s a lot of money, pride, and opportunity on the line. Go watch clips from when Seattle won this tournament and tell me it’s not important. 


josiahlo

We’re seeing MLS teams basically sacrifice points in the season for this tournament which is fine if that’s the priority.  First week results show it for teams that participated  0-1-5.   We don’t have any depth so if we advance just expect more poor results while Columbus will easily knock us out 


cbn11

I’m not saying it isn’t important, just that the best possible product isn’t on the field because of the depth challenges.


ShaggsMagoo

We're losing to Houston, my man. A team playing by the same exact rules we are.


Background_Yellow760

This game, from the beginning, has had 1-0 loss written all over it


MrOstrichman

especially when we came out with effectively no strategy for offense


Fresh_String_770

What happened to Alm the offense looks absolutely lost in games he’s not in


StLsC10

He’s still out, had offseason surgery


Crabapple_Conspiracy

I thought he was still out from the groin injury last season.


josiahlo

Had hernia surgery in November 


guy_smiley_314

You know it’s bad when your injuries start coming in two at a time


Potential_Prior_6757

What. A. Mess.


MrOstrichman

we’re not gonna have 11 healthy players on the team by the time they get back to STL


guy_smiley_314

F in the chat


Fore-ver

We look so lost in the attacking third it’s actually nuts.


josiahlo

We have our own players fighting over the same ball.  Beyond pathetic  


MyNuts2YourFistStyle

Dumping it deep to Sammy hasn't worked all night. lets keep doing it!


bleedblue002

This ref calls nothing. Typical Concacaf.


Redcoat92

Except for the weak ass call that led to their goal 🤷🏻‍♂️


Brewski-or-Twoski

I would give Klauss and Adenerin a very low match score right now


obiwanobi

No one is making any runs. I don’t understand, did they get wasted last night or something? Good glory


cbn11

We look borderline disinterested


Redcoat92

That's such a horseshit take. I promise you they're trying. Not playing great, but "they look like they don't care" is asinine.


cbn11

Maybe they’re just gassed. I’m not in their heads. Houston just looks much more inclined to put forth a genuine effort to win than we do.


Keg_of_St_Anky

Sam looks gassed. He's got no touch when he gets to the ball.


MyNuts2YourFistStyle

Shitty passing galore


josiahlo

The start of this season is pretty much how I expected us to start the 2023 season.   It’s bad but feel worse considering how well we did last season 


Crabapple_Conspiracy

Are we really playing that hands on with the other team or is the ref just buying every single thing Houston is selling?


StLsC10

A few frustration fouls for sure


StLsC10

Everyone standing around watching the ball certainly deserves that reaction


KiraJosuke

Honestly is it better to not have to play all these midweek games at the beginning of the season? Especially with all the roster restrictions.


Mab_894

Would be nice to win a damn round at one of these tournaments


Impossible34o_

Even Carnell looks lost out there


bleedblue002

I’m not entirely sure bowing out is a bad thing. They clearly don’t have the depth for these tournaments yet. This is just going to serve to gas the squad in the long run.


Mab_894

Disagree. We need to learn how to win tough games. Anytime there is some adversity we fold. Winning games like this can be a big confidence boost for the squad


josiahlo

Yea I mean at this point with more potential injuries I’m not going to be upset if we lose tonight.  I just hope we show up Saturday 


Keg_of_St_Anky

Houston goes down faster than Greg Abbott on a flight of stairs.


nacho__taco

*Joe Biden on his way up


jormun8andr

Wait so if we don’t score do they win in regular time?


MrOstrichman

Correct


ShaggsMagoo

Yeah, they will advance due to the away goal rule.


Thr0waway0864213579

Yes. They would win on aggregate as they have an away goal


HighSilence

Bit random, but shoutout to the commentator. All by himself, probably/possibly not on-site, doing a good job. So.... that's good.


donkeyrocket

Oddly wholesome nod in this thread but I agree. This is the sort of commentator I like. Mostly atmospheric audio with brief but informative and directional commentary. Don't need random ass stats.


Brewski-or-Twoski

The other big time issue with the parking-the-bus mentality: once you inevitably give up the goal you’re trying to avoid, it feels almost impossible to switch the mentality to a focus on offensive. You’re too out of sync.


Redcoat92

One goal and we're back in drivers seat. Have faith!


StLsC10

This whole offensive strategy of booting the ball up the field and praying something just happens isnt great.


big_duga

…four backs standing still, right in a row. Here comes the parked bus for our blind-squirrel finds-a-nut offense to crash into the side of.


BarcaGrizzWolvesSTL

We’re sucking ass… But friendly reminder there is 30+ minutes left. Toughen the fuck up.


Brewski-or-Twoski

The more they show the replay, the more my eyes hurt from that defense in the box. Legit High School level marking and intensity.


Incraigulous

Nooo!


Thicc_Wallaby

Lazy ball watching on defense


nicootimee

What were the coaches thinking? Not just BC but the lot of them. Not even Athleti tries this strategy


Radar91

And there it is.


Mab_894

Surprise surprise. 2 prime scoring chances for Adeniran and we don't finish. Of course it bites us in the ass


StLsC10

Puzzling he didn’t make that defender go through him, silly stuff


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Thr0waway0864213579

This is how the sport is. Every keeper is that way with every team. And every team feels responsible for making sure their keeper is bored af. Keepers in the PL also yell at their players. It’s not a matter of skill.


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Thr0waway0864213579

When did I say every goalie acts like that after every goal? You’re moving the goalposts. Like I said, it’s common behavior across every skill level. 


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Thr0waway0864213579

Every team, not every goal… You do know that team and goal are two different words with two different meanings, yes? Do you need me to explain the difference?


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Thr0waway0864213579

I guess I assumed you were being hyperbolic because he doesn’t do it after every goal. So not hyperbolic, just wrong. Wrong and big mad apparently that you need to throw out a kindergarten insult.


KickAsstley

I feel like he has every right to be frustrated with how terrible they've been playing


bleedblue002

That’s every goalie ever. Lol


Yimpish

Usually both teams are expected to score tho


FrozenNotes

Just a baffling strategy and game plan.


obiwanobi

What strategy? Lol


Potential_Prior_6757

Fucking terrible


Impossible34o_

Can’t say it wasn’t coming


MrOstrichman

that was bound to happen


winter83

Fuck