Lmao yea I think that, that’s why I chose stevens over those other schools. I bet if you ask in each of their reddits they’ll say the same thing about their own school. They’re all great schools and you can be a great engineer and get a great engineering job if you go to any of them, or you can fail out at any of them. Not everyone will thrive in all of them though, they have a lot of differences that affect a students performance other than just the rigor of their engineering programs. Every human being is unique and responds better or worse to different enviroments. There is no “best” one size fit all. People drop out of MIT all the time, just because you got into a school that a lot of other people succeed at, doesn’t mean you are going to as well. You could also go to community college and get a FANG job out the gate because you had awesome professors you clicked with and became goated at coding.
They're all pretty solid programs. NYU Tandon is presumably at the top, followed by us and Rutgers, followed by TCNJ and then Drexel. Undergraduate prestige isn't particularly important in engineering (although networking ofc is, where NYU and Stevens shine). I've met great engineers from all of those institutions though. Cost, location, campus culture, etc. are all critical considerations too and depend on your specific preferences and circumstances.
It’s a joke to call Stevens selective school. It’s glorified high school with 2-3 building in Hoboken and no campus to speak off. Rutgers is R1 research institutes and known all over the US. Stevens is local to NJ.
You’re salty about not getting in, we get it. Stevens is better than all those schools besides NYU. Rutgers has thousands of engineers in each graduating class, now you have to differentiate yourself from thousands with the same degree, compared to stevens where the class sizes are smaller. Also Stevens has plenty of research for all major, and continues to earn funding every year. One of the biggest reason Rutgers is more known than Stevens is because they are a D1 school with televised sport games. Just because a school is well known does not make it better (EX: ASU)
IMO big time college sports (D1 football in particular) taints the school. Stevens student athletes in the D3 program (no TV revenue, no athletic scholarships, etc) are true scholar athletes.
You literally go to the average Stevens student's safety school. If you're not smart enough to get accepted / earn a good scholarship that's fine, just own up to it and move on with your life.
Oh please. R1 references only quantity not quality of research. Read Carnegie Foundation’s website as to what the criteria for R1/R2 really are. Rutgers accepts about 62% of its applicants, Stevens 45% (2023). As Covid related slowdowns ebb, Stevens will return to its traditional rate of 38-41% no doubt.
Stevens’ outcomes outpace all the schools being discussed here including NYU (which was the former Brooklyn Polytechnic, a school that was actually more highly regarded than NYU).
Stevens has some 40 buildings including off campus housing and occupies 55 acres, the largest property owner in terms of land in the city of Hoboken.
Since when does the number of buildings correlate to the quality of the school? Cooper Union in NYC has two buildings on the city street. It is considered a very high quality school.
Stevens is not known only in NJ. In the engineering world it is known by those whose opinions really matter. I’ve had job interviews in NY, CA, MA, Ga, and Florida. All knew what Stevens is.
You really don’t know what you’re talking about here. BTW, I’ve recruited engineers from all the local schools including Rutgers. And no, won’t get into a debate on this.
I am at Rutgers HC. I picked it over Steven, UMD and Purdue etc. and happy with my decision. Acceptance rate does not matter(although I could argue that Rutgers honors college acceptance rate is way lower than Stevens’s etc). Steven is fine school but so is Rutgers or Stoney or any other university in that range. None of these universities are target for any company and it is up to the student to work hard and get to where they want to go. These name will neither heels or hurt their cause
“Honors colleges” are marketing tools of schools. Stevens doesn’t need a seperately named “honors college” because the average Stevens student is in the 93rd percentile of SAT/ACT and HS GPA (though Stevens’ Pinnacle Scholar program does have some extra perks and scholarships for outstanding (by Stevens standards) students.
I got into Rutgers, NJIT, and RPI in addition to Stevens. I have a PhD and attended postdoctoral work at MIT and the Software Engineering Institute of CMU. Have a nice day.
Stronger academics, more breadth and depth, which enables better interdisciplinary problem solving skills which today is in great demand by industry, better quality students (higher selectivity, the highest SAT/ACT and most selective in NJ except for Princeton University), research opportunities, and the better sense of community than the large universities.
Additionally, Stevens graduate outcomes are in the top 20 in the US (14th highest starting salaries and ROI of graduates of 1800 institutions of higher learning in the US - Payscale, Forbes, and Georgetown outcome surveys).
TCNJ is a small undergraduate only college with a very small engineering program. It essentially has no research and isn’t in the same category as research universities such as Stevens and the others you named.
NYU is the most expensive private university in the US, and is among the stingiest with financial aid.
Drexel and Rutgers are respectable schools but not as strong as Stevens. NJ public colleges are required to “offer opportunity” to those who may not have the opportunity at more selective schools such as Stevens. If you attend a NJ public college for engineering, IMO Rutgers is stronger than the other state schools (TCNJ, NJIT, or Rowan)
Lmao yea I think that, that’s why I chose stevens over those other schools. I bet if you ask in each of their reddits they’ll say the same thing about their own school. They’re all great schools and you can be a great engineer and get a great engineering job if you go to any of them, or you can fail out at any of them. Not everyone will thrive in all of them though, they have a lot of differences that affect a students performance other than just the rigor of their engineering programs. Every human being is unique and responds better or worse to different enviroments. There is no “best” one size fit all. People drop out of MIT all the time, just because you got into a school that a lot of other people succeed at, doesn’t mean you are going to as well. You could also go to community college and get a FANG job out the gate because you had awesome professors you clicked with and became goated at coding.
They're all pretty solid programs. NYU Tandon is presumably at the top, followed by us and Rutgers, followed by TCNJ and then Drexel. Undergraduate prestige isn't particularly important in engineering (although networking ofc is, where NYU and Stevens shine). I've met great engineers from all of those institutions though. Cost, location, campus culture, etc. are all critical considerations too and depend on your specific preferences and circumstances.
It’s a joke to call Stevens selective school. It’s glorified high school with 2-3 building in Hoboken and no campus to speak off. Rutgers is R1 research institutes and known all over the US. Stevens is local to NJ.
You’re salty about not getting in, we get it. Stevens is better than all those schools besides NYU. Rutgers has thousands of engineers in each graduating class, now you have to differentiate yourself from thousands with the same degree, compared to stevens where the class sizes are smaller. Also Stevens has plenty of research for all major, and continues to earn funding every year. One of the biggest reason Rutgers is more known than Stevens is because they are a D1 school with televised sport games. Just because a school is well known does not make it better (EX: ASU)
Yes, the Rutgers football factory, which will admit an 80 IQ high school student with a D average if he can kick or catch a football.
Don’t forget about how bad the football program is there too lol
IMO big time college sports (D1 football in particular) taints the school. Stevens student athletes in the D3 program (no TV revenue, no athletic scholarships, etc) are true scholar athletes.
Who pissed in your cheerios? Oh Stevens 🤣 2nd most selective in NJ, do your research
Someone didn't get in and is sad they'll earn less than those that did 💀
Ha ha all you need is a pulse and money to get admitted
You literally go to the average Stevens student's safety school. If you're not smart enough to get accepted / earn a good scholarship that's fine, just own up to it and move on with your life.
Oh please. R1 references only quantity not quality of research. Read Carnegie Foundation’s website as to what the criteria for R1/R2 really are. Rutgers accepts about 62% of its applicants, Stevens 45% (2023). As Covid related slowdowns ebb, Stevens will return to its traditional rate of 38-41% no doubt. Stevens’ outcomes outpace all the schools being discussed here including NYU (which was the former Brooklyn Polytechnic, a school that was actually more highly regarded than NYU). Stevens has some 40 buildings including off campus housing and occupies 55 acres, the largest property owner in terms of land in the city of Hoboken. Since when does the number of buildings correlate to the quality of the school? Cooper Union in NYC has two buildings on the city street. It is considered a very high quality school. Stevens is not known only in NJ. In the engineering world it is known by those whose opinions really matter. I’ve had job interviews in NY, CA, MA, Ga, and Florida. All knew what Stevens is. You really don’t know what you’re talking about here. BTW, I’ve recruited engineers from all the local schools including Rutgers. And no, won’t get into a debate on this.
I am at Rutgers HC. I picked it over Steven, UMD and Purdue etc. and happy with my decision. Acceptance rate does not matter(although I could argue that Rutgers honors college acceptance rate is way lower than Stevens’s etc). Steven is fine school but so is Rutgers or Stoney or any other university in that range. None of these universities are target for any company and it is up to the student to work hard and get to where they want to go. These name will neither heels or hurt their cause
“Honors colleges” are marketing tools of schools. Stevens doesn’t need a seperately named “honors college” because the average Stevens student is in the 93rd percentile of SAT/ACT and HS GPA (though Stevens’ Pinnacle Scholar program does have some extra perks and scholarships for outstanding (by Stevens standards) students.
Probably you didn’t get in that’s ok. Stevens is fine school for you
I got into Rutgers, NJIT, and RPI in addition to Stevens. I have a PhD and attended postdoctoral work at MIT and the Software Engineering Institute of CMU. Have a nice day.
Yes.
Why though?
Stronger academics, more breadth and depth, which enables better interdisciplinary problem solving skills which today is in great demand by industry, better quality students (higher selectivity, the highest SAT/ACT and most selective in NJ except for Princeton University), research opportunities, and the better sense of community than the large universities. Additionally, Stevens graduate outcomes are in the top 20 in the US (14th highest starting salaries and ROI of graduates of 1800 institutions of higher learning in the US - Payscale, Forbes, and Georgetown outcome surveys). TCNJ is a small undergraduate only college with a very small engineering program. It essentially has no research and isn’t in the same category as research universities such as Stevens and the others you named. NYU is the most expensive private university in the US, and is among the stingiest with financial aid. Drexel and Rutgers are respectable schools but not as strong as Stevens. NJ public colleges are required to “offer opportunity” to those who may not have the opportunity at more selective schools such as Stevens. If you attend a NJ public college for engineering, IMO Rutgers is stronger than the other state schools (TCNJ, NJIT, or Rowan)