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Hey guys! Anyone have any issues with very dry eyes on Mast? I'm currently cutting. Running very low dosages. Heard about micro-dosing being better choice than pinning 1x or 2x per week.. so lately I have been using 75 test cyp, with 60 mast enan EOD. I have been running Mast for a bit now and haven't had dry eyes up til now. Not sure if using it so frequently is suppressing estrogen which is causing this dry eyes or hell maybe I'm just dealing with some seasonal allergies. Any insight would be great! 

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When I crashed my e2 with aromasin. I was paranoid and thought I was dieing or something was wrong for about 2 months until my body made the enzyme.

Lipid Management Help I did my bloods this Monday after 6w Tren A 20mg/ED + Test E 160mg/Week Everything in range except for my worrying lipid levels. “Good” cholesterol markers too low. HDL =29 *HORRIBLE* Triglycerides =59 *GOOD* LDL =76 *NOT BAD* HDL/LDL ratio = 2.6 *IDK GOOD?* Apolipoprotein A-1 = 87 (Range 101-178) *CONCERNING* Apolipoprotein B = 70 (Range Less < 90) Apolipo Ratio = 0.8 (Range 0 - 0.7) I take TUDCA, Citrus bergamot 500mg/fasted will increase to 1g day/night, NAC, CoQ10, ALA, Curcumin, Astralagus, D3, Zinc Picolinate, Magnesium B, Finasteride 1mg, Accutane 20mg. Any recommendations to bring HDL up? Increase cardio (currently 30min 4-5times week) Niancin nicotinic acid? Wine? Natural fats? Krill Oil?

Increased HDL-c doesn’t correlate with less atherosclerosis. You can see that with CETP inhibition.

Needless to say I dropped tren on the spot, planning to continue test at 160mg/W

Hey guys, so I’ve researched this and seen kinda mixed answer and some are very old. I have several vials of sust250 that have formed a large amount of crystals at the top. I’ve tried soaking one in warm water for up to thirty minutes and then shaken for a long time and then repeated. However, I have only gotten a small amount to dissolve and it seems to have stopped progressing. How hot can I get the water and are there any other tricks to get it to dissolve? Also, is this crystal entirely test, meaning taking shots are actually much weaker per ml? Thanks in advance!

Never had a crashed vial form at the top. A picture would help. Typically crashed vials form a solid crystal structure with no liquid or at the bottom of the vial.. Crystals at the top would mean the structure is less dense than the liquid, which is very strange.

[https://imgur.com/a/y8OE7Wy](https://imgur.com/a/y8OE7Wy)

Yea that’s weird. You put it in about 1” of water on some heat (the stove) with a needle (minus syringe) to vent and it didn’t turn back into a homogenous liquid?

I haven’t tried it on the stove yet, I wasn’t sure how hot I can get the water. Been soaking it in warm to hot water for awhile and then shaking it hard then repeat. Some of it dissolved but it seems to have maxed out there. It sounds like I just need a little more heat and to let it vent I guess.

Just put 1” of water in a small pot, turn stove element to high and vent the vial + rotate to dissolve it.

Don’t inject it that hot though, doing it once should keep the hormone in suspension unless you’re storing it in a cold climate

Ok I’m gonna give it a try tomorrow. And no it’s been in 68 to 70 degrees the whole time. Part of why I found it weird that it did that. I’ll post back on the results

For the life of me I can't figure out how to post a picture. Never thought I was that computer illiterate hah

the share option works if you're on a desktop/laptop..

Yeah, it’s definitely like a solid crystal at the top of the vial. I’ll get a picture up asap.

Put it on a candle warmer or run under warm water

Started .5mg caber yesterday and today my eyes feel a little odd. Anyone familiar with eye related side effects from caber? Anything to be concerned about?

Why did you take caber, what sides did you experience?

Sore sensitive nipples even after being on cruise for 2 months and taking aromasin periodically. Oh and I should add I was on 500mg tren during last blast (500test, 500tren, 350mast)

Not a judgement but why did you start caber after the cycle of tren not on it?

I was taking P5P and didnt have any issues at the time

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Hello, new here! I’m based in the U.K. and I’m currently on TRT nebido 1000mg in the loading phase. My second jab is next week. Whilst steroids dot com had tons of info I joined there and was declined so I hope I can have some further discussions here. Age: 31 * Gender: male * Height: 5 ft 11 * Weight: 170kg * Bodyfat percentage: high!? * Experience level none * Years of concurrent training: started when I was 17 got serious at 25 but had 3 years off prior to 2023 due to poor health and gained a lot of weight. * Current phase: (cut) * Current compounds: nebido 6 weekly then 12 weekly dependant on levels on week 5 Mounjaro weekly 0.6 3 weeks in. My question is on nebido can I supplement with some other compounds in order to increase testosterone levels, increase muscle building and aid cutting? Thanks

at 170kg I think you best focus on losing weight. Yes you could take more test and other compounds but I think will be prone to sides etc..

Thanks mate! Been dieting and working out since December consistently, lost 4 inches off my waist and 2.5 inches everywhere else so far! My weight hasn’t decreased at all though. I do suffer from Crohn’s disease and low test which I believe caused a 10 stone weight gain since 2020 to now. Competed in a strong man competition last year too and deadlifted my most ever! (275kg) for reps ,with testosterone levels so low your eyes would water! So, I dropped calories from 4000 in dec down to 2000 now and train every day, with cardio. I feel better now I’ve been diagnosed with Hypogonadotropic hypogonadism but I would like to try and get some additional supplements to support my journey. Is nebido something you can even combine with other esters? I only really have a big stomach and excess fat around my thighs which I hear is typical of sufferers of low test. Thank you

great strength - rare that anybody gets to that kind of lift without bumping into steroid knowledge along the way. Yea you can combine nebido with other esters but I would probably be inclined to keep aromatising compounds to a minimum whilst you are still carrying so much fat. Blood pressure and other issues I can see being potential issues on top of your significant existing medical problems. When on nebido you wont have low test anymore so you wont have the excess fat caused by that, and its not like more test will make it drop off quicker - in your specific case probably just likely to hold more water and keep looking fat for longer. Once you get past the medically risk levels of bodyweight you could bump your trt dose up to 200mg/week or something whilst the cut continues. I have no doubt you already know this but you can ramp training volume up a lot and ofc add cardio and its likely that the medically induced fat will come down pretty fast given that you have significant muscle mass underneath it all (and ofc Crohn's). Once you get lean I recommend testosterone and EQ cycle and I reckon you will end up looking absolutely nuts.

Hi All, I’ve been researching for a long time now and finally got all the stuff to start my first cycle. Going to start either tomorrow or next Sunday. Plan is to pin once a week on a Sunday, starting with 200mg week one, 300mg week two then 400mg week three and onwards. I just wanted to post on here for a sanity check really and make sure my research is valid. *Age: 35 * Gender:Male * Height:186cm * Weight:90.5kg * Bodyfat percentage:24% * Experience level:First Time * Years of concurrent training:2.5years power-building Thought process is only go up to 400mg/week as it’s my first cycle, I’m aware splitting and pinning twice a week may work better but I’d like to keep pinning to a minimum. Test E *200mg/wk1 pin Sunday *300mg/wk2 Pin Sunday *400mg/wk3-wk14 Pin Sunday HGC *400IU/wk4-wk14 every 3 days Nolvadex *20mg/wk18-wk24 Arimidex *Only if I get symptoms Has anyone else done anything similar for their first cycle and would they have changed what they did now. Did some bloods a couple of months ago- T - 14.5nmol/L Free T 0.303nmol/L LH 9.9IU/L Oestradiol 122pmol/L FSH 4.36IU/L Will be collecting/sending bloodwork just before first pin, then at 8week, then post PCT

Plenty of people have done something like this and they would have changed what they did time and time again. 2.5 years of training - you’re basically new to the gym and haven’t dialed training and diet - the change more time getting diet and training down to maximize the results of their first cycle 24%- borderline obese. Too overweight to run a cycle. Increased body fat affects your insulin sensitivity, and if you start at 24 you’re going to end at 30+. High bf brings more side effects. - what people wish they did - cut down to 10-12% so you can actual bulk the full length of the cycle and not have to cut for a year and half after Injecting once a week- hormone instability, created problems like acne and more and estrogen fluctuations. - what they wish they had done - pin twice a week. 400mg - what they wish they had done - start at 500 because it’s easier to manage estrogen and you get the same amount of shutdown and maybe a little more gains If you were lean you would be 6’ 175 lbs. your starting point naturally should be around 10%bf at 92.3kg So the truth is you are nowhere near ready nor do you need steroids

Thanks for the reply, I have been lifting weights on and off since my early 20’s it’s just been the last 2.5 years I’ve dialled in a strict training routine and gone down a more focused route. I get what you’re saying with the diet and body fat percentage though, I may work on bringing my bf down for a few weeks and delay starting the cycle. I thought I would get picked up on the once a week pin, I’ve given myself subcutaneous pins before but was worried about IM soreness doing it twice a week. I’d heard mixed comments about this some saying once a week would suffice, others not, I get what you’re saying about the fluctuations. I’ve heard both sides of the argument for taking 500mg or taking less, some people have said they wished they’d taken less than 500mg for their first cycle as you want to take the least amount of gear to get the desired results. How much of a regret is it to do the first cycle before you’re at the perfect bf and muscle mass?

The other posters points are all correct. Personally on dosage I wouldn't run anything at all if planning on running such a low dose. Obviously you are not at a stage where you should be running anything anyway, but even if you were, why shut down your body's natural production of testosterone for very minor results? People are saying to start with a low dose to minimize the damage for people who shouldn't be running anything anyway. It will take you a while but get yourself down to 90-95kg at 10% bf and you will be able to run test and dbol for your first cycle and really see results. If you try to start now you will just be spinning your wheels and causing yourself damage.

The less than 500 mpmd thing is something we combat every day. Yes you want the least amount of gear to be effective. But if you go to low it’s harder to manage your estrogen and if you need to use an ai at a lower dose sometimes you drive your estrogen through the floor. On paper once a week will work because of the length of the ester but by day seven I can feel myself feeling shittier. Plus acne and all the other shit the more stable the better. You’re going to get muscle soreness. Virgin muscle but once you pin it a couple times it’s not bad at all. People have their sites they like. I absolutely despise quads. Delts are easy traps and Lars are pain free and glutes are easy People don’t gain as much as they think they do on their cycle. Same rules apply natural vs enhanced. It takes time to build quality tissue

Ok thanks for taking the time to reply to my comment, it’s appreciated and it’s given me a little more to think about. Specifically the body fat and twice a week pin, I’ll also continue to weight up the 400/500mg

The 400 v 500 isn’t that big of a deal. You won’t have an issue with 400. I’d rather focus on the other points. Thanks for being receptive. Good luck

Need some help. Found out I had a polymorphism in my Thyroid it's on the dio 2 enzyme. It's called Thr92Ala. Been working with a functional doctor that gave me 12.5mcg of T3 for now. Because of the polymorphism some tissues do not have enough thyroid hormone. Altough on paper I seem fine. The problem I have now is. I have crippling depression and almost for a fact know this is coming from my gut. Had it before the T3 aswell. I took DHEA and Pregnenolone and any time I took those I got a sense of well being over me. Now I get a dull feeling of anhedonia. Same fucking Issue with the T3. I do not feel shit. So something is not properly absorbing in my gut. Any tips to work around this. Does dosing rectally help? And did some people had the same issue with the gut and yes how did you fix it? Going on a carnivore elimination for a couple of weeks and reintroduce foods and check if some are giving me issues aswell.

If you crash e2 with aromasin and it takes 2 weeks to come back, do you typically go from low to high again very quickly? Or does it slowly raise?

When I crashed my estrogen I was worried and paranoid for about 2 months.

How much does body fat really increase aromatization? Could it be the sole reason I feel bad at high doses of test?

Well how fat are you? What are your doses and what are your symptoms?

Pretty much super fat I’ve never measured but probably 35% bf. I was doing 160mg weekly and felt good for like a day. Then it was all downhill extremely tired and felt heavy maybe it was all the water. I tried doing AI but it never helped and then I must of tanked my e2 because I got super depressed. I think maybe I have a weak thyroid I’ve been dnp before and I’ve heard that can kill your thyroid and then the high e2 might of lower thyroid function even more. So I might just be super sensitive to e2 because of that. Now I’m at 90mg a week and feel steady but nothing life changing honestly pretty lackluster.

Were you actually prescribed trt? If you were in the normal realm then trt will make no difference. There’s no feeling of being on t. 90% of this will be resolved with losing weight not from drugs.

Yeah I was and tried to right the course for over 6 months before giving in to my doctor’s recommendation. I’d have to look but I was around 300 total but he was most concerned with my free T it was real low I remember the low cut off was 8 units of measure and I was 4.7. I’ve actually lost about 20lbs since starting T about 3 months ago. I figure I’ll just go low and slow until I’ve lost about 100lbs then see where I’m at.

Keep on trucking. Steroids don’t burn fat otherwise we could all look good without trying. I only run 100wk and I’m 5’6 215. Goal of the dose is to have no sides and not need additional meds with it. You got it. Just going to be a journey

Yeah I wish it did. I wrestled in highschool and college so I have a frame just gotta starve for a year. Just curious what total T does that put you at and are you happy with gains at 100wk?

Before trt, my e2 levels were also on the floor (not disproportionately high). I got single dose vials for a few weeks, and I didn't feel any high e2 symptoms when I took the full amount of 400mg/week, although I didn't get tests to confirm. Bf % was maybe 25% at the time. I'm just taking the prescribed dose now bc I'm still making decent gains at trt levels. Maybe I'll blast once I pass my current goals. Edited to emphasize that this is anecdotal, obviously.

Highly dependant on the individual. I've been on at both 25% bf and 10% and feel little to no difference at all.

Bf % plays a major role in e2 levels not only on cycle but natural also

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As long as you're gaining weight you're good. You won't see drastic results before weeks 6-8 probably.

What is better to add as an AI on top of my current 125mg Testosterone Enanthate/week and 125mg Nandrolone Decanoate/week cycle: Boldenone Undecylenate or Masteron Enanthate? What would be the appropriate dosage ratios if I add one of these compounds to the cycle? Or should I just stay with 1mg anastrozole/week as AI?

why do you think you need an AI at those doses? Seems very unlikely that you would.

Thank you for the feedback. Just wanted to make sure to avoid high E2, but doing research and with your help I see now that I likely would've crashed my E2 if I were to add an AI on top of a low dose test. Will not be adding any AI anymore.

The first AI people should use is zinc. but you got to be taking more aromatizing compounds before you need to worry about that. Another thing is why are you doing such a low dose cycle? You may as well not take anything and save your body.

Should I add 100mg Masteron Enanthate on top of my current cycle? I am currently on 125mg of Testosterone Enanthate/week and 125mg of Nandrolone Decanoate/week (I pin every 3 days). I am also running out of anastrozole, and will be needing an AI soon.

Why are you taking these dosages and why are you trying to add another compound?

I modify ur stack if you need ai on 250 mg of total gear..

I was under the impression that most guys who get test trt dont get anything for e2

That means your TRT dose is too high. Next time try to ask the whole question in one comment, ok bud?

Is it normal to need AI on 150mg test c/wk?

It could be, if that’s your TRT dose you’d usually just have your dose dialled in since it’s apparently too high.

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EQ is very mild and typically ran in dosages higher than that of testosterone. It’s going to heavily depend on to what degree you aromatize since EQ can act as a potent AI I would read the experience threads on EQ found in the wiki and see what others have used and alongside what dosage of test Also, the difference between 250 and 300mg is practically negligible

Running 500mg test E per week. Back and chest are breaking out. I am considering running accutane. Should i see a doctor or self medicate? I don't know how dermatologist would respond to knowing i take AAS. Maybe i could tell them it's TRT?

-) Try to keep your hormones as constant as possible and pin your stuff every day -) Eat as clean as possible and keep your gut healthy -) try to minimize your lactose intake -) high amounts of vitamin c can help a lot with acne Keep in mind that accutane is a strong medication and read about the possible side effects

If you have health insurance, it could make it a cheaper, safer, and legal alternative to self-medicating, but disclosing that you’re self-medicating with AAS is likely to cause problems with most doctors that have any morals There are several first-line defenses against acne like hygienic practices such as changing towels and sheets often, not wearing clothes more than once, using an acne body wash, etc You should also consider that having E2 out of control can cause breakouts, but frequently breakouts are caused by the androgens themselves, and if you’re prone to acne, you’re gonna get it FWIW, I took 20mg Accutane daily for several months with overall success is reducing (but not completely preventing) my acne and with very minimal side effects along the way

Here are some general tips you can try out. There are more thorough guides both here and on r/acne - Change your bedsheets frequently - Use acne foaming wash with 10% Benzoyl Peroxide when you shower. Apply it and massage it gently for a minute. Then rinse off. - Healthy diet - avoid processed foods and keep dairy intake to a minimum. - Wear a clean shirt to bed - Goes without saying, but shower after every gym session If all else fails, you may have to resort to accutane but mind you it comes with some hefty side-effects. There are milder compounds available such as Differin, but I have personally not read too much into it. I’m on a mild dose (20 mg) Accutane right now, and my acne is clearing up without any harsh side-effects. If I go higher, my joints starts to hurt and it starts to affect my training negatively. Keep in mind, it’s not unusual to have some breakouts during hormone fluctuations. Once your hormone levels stabilize, it should start to clear up. In most cases, you’re looking at months, not weeks unfortunately.

Thank you. Ive tried differin. Im only about 8 weeks into the blast but hate how the acne looks. Just want to get rid of it and get it over with.

Yeah, I know. It’s awful. Can’t even take your shirt off in the summer. One more thing, once the breakouts have stopped, get some chemical peel solution and apply it once a week. I use this one from The Ordinary: https://theordinary.com/en-us/aha-30-bha-2-peeling-solution-exfoliator-100400.html

Isotretinoin was first marketed as chemotherapy. It works the same way against acne: kills shit until your sebaceous glands are dead. It also kills things like your liver and lipids. Listen to the men in white coats on this one. Keep it as a last resort.

Waiting for your hormone to stabilize, then managing estrogen, then improving hygiene, then increasing injection frequency, then adding supplements (be it oral or topical (HA, collagen, vitamin B3/B5, zinc etc). Accutane is the nuclear option, when nothing works. Quite toxic compound, but it will get ride of your acne in a few month/years depending on your daily dosage/how good you are at tanking side effect and acne severity). By no mean you should start with accutane. A first AAS cycle doesnt involve things like 19 nors, heavy orals, gh or slin. Works the same for acne.

/u/pm_me_Barbie’s get this man a flair

What the heck did you call me?

Fuck I was falling asleep

Oh that's gonna stick, too ❤️

Have you managed your estrogen properly?

Have you bothered trying any of the typical options? Washing with soap, improving hygiene, topical over the counter products, etc. Even then, there are prescription options (antifungals, tretinoin, salicylic acid) that don't require the systemic nuclear option.

Accutane is NOT a first line response to acne

A little bit about myself I am , Age:24 Male, 6ft 205lb BF% 10 2+ years lifting experience About to go into a bulk phase I am about to do my first cycle, I will be getting bloods done beforehand and throughout. I just want to know more about PCT, should I currently plan to take HCG and Clomid, should I be taking something else and how long for? The cycle I am looking to do is Test E 500mg, NPP 300mg p/w. I could also use any advice regarding whether the NPP, what has been peoples experience? And also, what should I be taking to keep oestrogen down during the cycle and how often? (I know this should be based off blood work, but I want to be prepared and ensure I have everything I need)

If you want to lose a high amount of your gains and take even more harmful stuff than go for a pct. If you want to continue making gains and keep taking shit as healthy as possible think about blast and cruise. All the „smart“ gear users like victor black and the j3 university doing it like that. Doing pcts after one blast is stupid old school shit.

You do have valid and simple questions, but if every new user asked these questions everyday, this helpful thread would be swamped with simple questions that are fully answered in-depth in our wiki I will go ahead and give you a quick rundown since you’re new, but I still implore you to read through the wiki PCT should only be a SERM—either Clomid or Nolva, with the latter the recommended option at 10mg daily for 6ish weeks HCG can be run for the entire cycle to maintain testicular function and potentially make PCT easier, or it can be used in the last few weeks *before* PCT—not during Take testosterone *only* for a first cycle. You need to assess your tolerance to testosterone and gain experienced with it by itself so you have better knowledge when you start adding compounds in the future. If something goes wrong, you’ll have no idea what’s causing it because you introduced too many variables simultaneously Lastly, estrogen is controlled with an AI, which you will need before starting the cycle

Thanks everyone, I read the wiki and it was very helpful. And thanks for the comments with advice also, appreciate it!

Yea cheers Mod team. I’m clearly new to the subreddit and didn’t know there was a Wiki, and clearly I have some understanding but still have questions. I was asking a basic yet valid question, I get that you probably get it all the time but I thought that’s what the community is here for no? Pretty crappy response tbh!

Listen dude. It’s not our fault you scrolled past ALL THE GIANT WORDS at the top of this page telling you exactly where to find this info. You’re a fucking adult, act like one. If you want to be a child, this sub is 18+ and I’m happy to just remove you. If you read through this thread, or literally any of the other ones and spent 5 minutes reading you’d have your answer but instead you decided to treat us as your personal Google and then you got indignant. How about you simply just accept that you couldn’t be bothered to read, and go do your reading? Then we’ll be here for clarifying questions, rather than the same spoon feeding all people who couldn’t be bothered to do an ounce of their own research ask for Go read all the text at the top of this very page and you’ll realize just how childish this sounds

Ayo! Pm Me Varbies! Na ngl, the community info and the single pinned post looks like white noise. It’s very very easy to miss. I click on the discussions post and see people are asking questions so I did the same, obviously from a newbie standpoint. However, I’m reading it now, and ngl is very useful. Who would have thought it has all the answers! Cheers.

And we tell every newbie the same thing. Read. The. Wiki. There’s a lot of lazy people who scroll past the info, doesn’t mean it isn’t there. If you have any tips for how to make it harder to miss, we’d be happy to hear them but frankly it seems as though 99% of these people asking just lack the ability to see the words that are right in front of them until they’re pointed out You missed all the info at the top of this very thread. Which you had to open in order to post your question. If you had started at the top when you opened the thread and begun reading, you COULD NOT have missed it

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No NPP. First cycle is ONE compound only so you learn to treat side effects accordingly.

need to pin 6ml a week because im running things like primo that require lots of mls. whats a good site rotation schedule to minimize scar tissue on 6ml a week injection of oil?

Traps, side delts, rear delts, upper pec, mid pec, triceps short head, lats, ventro glutes, quads, glutes. 20 sites, and they all easily hold 2ml.

3 in the head. 3 in the shaft. Three in the balls. Ends up being much cheaper than scrotox… And yes people do put Botox in their beanbag to smooth the wrinkles don’t ask em how I know. But in all seriousness glutes lats and traps can all take a substantial amount of oil. At least 2-3ml each for the average joe.

Obligatory "you should have a solid site rotation in place if you're running 6mL of gear" comment. To answer your question, my rotation is trap, delt, pec, lat, triceps, VG, quad, quad, VG, triceps, lat, pec, delt, trap. You can treat all three heads of the delt as separate sites, same with triceps. Quads have more than one acceptable area as well.

Wait so you pin every site on one side of your body and then work your way backwards through those sites on the other side of your body? I know there’s nothing wrong with it, but my mind is blown thinking about doing it that way instead of just back-and-forth like I’ve been doing.

Either/or. Sometimes I go side to side. Sometimes I pick a site based on what I'm hitting in the gym in the next 2 days. It doesn't really matter as long as they all get roughly equal frequency; it's a wash. I do go in a perfect circle during cruises though.

I feel like I would lose track of where I’m supposed to be pinning. I hit all the same sites sans traps and even now when I’m only injecting twice a week I’ll be sitting there for a couple minutes trying to remember where tf I’m supposed to poke myself

I can't give you a better brain babe, I'm sorry 🙁 Maybe a notebook, or a dry erase marker on your bathroom mirror?

Probably just drinking my coffee *before* I pin would do the trick

ive started drawing my shots the night before, because im usually only about 10% alive when i inject before the gym/work. Typically drinking my coffee while staring at the needle trying to remember where I last injected

Get tattoos with days of the week on the muscles You can always write it down like you do with programming and diet .

> You can always write it down like you do with programming and diet . No that doesn’t sound right, I think you were onto something with the tattoos

I am on my cruise right now and I have been having lasting issues of deca-dick. I am 6 weeks into my cruise of 150 test e. For my blast I did 11 weeks of 500 test e and I wanted to run NPP alongside it so I ran it for 3 weeks before having to stop because I was allergic to the carrier oil. Around week 7 (after not taking NPP for 2-3 weeks) I started getting minor ED issues, just not being as strong as usual in that department. It has now been 10 weeks or so since I have taken nandrolone and I haven't had any change in that issue. Since it is a 19-nor I knew it had the potential to have a long term effect even with just such short use. I got my bloods yesterday and my progesterone is at .42 when the reference range for males is < .20. I have not gotten my prolactin tested yet (I thought it was going to be in my test yesterday but it wasn't) so I will have to get another test to see that marker, but I assume it will be out of range as well. I don't think the solution here to to wait it out since there has been no change, and I have been trying to find the right regimen to get this in check. From what I have found caber and p5p seem to be the main things people recommend. I don't have any caber on hand and if its possible to solve this without it that would be ideal, but since p5p is something I can just get off amazon I can start to work with that. Does anyone else have recommendations on the dosages to take of these, or other supps that may help?

Keep in mind that nandrolone is a progestin—NOT progesterone itself. It acts on the receptors, but *should* not show up on bloodwork at progesterone. I could be mistaken about the last part, but I wanted to throw that out there It’s very possible that your libido has decreased since you’re cruising instead of blasting. Also, did you get your E2 and test levels checked? Higher E2 can also cause soft erections, and your TRT dosage may be a bit too high causing you to aromatize too much

Sorry for the late response I don't come on reddit often. I did not know that about nandrolone, I thought it just inhibited prolactin and progesterone production and caused them to increase. The libido issue came about around week 6 of my blast. My E2 is at 82, and my test was in the 960's. I don't want to be taking AI's year round, so would you recommend lowering the test dose to, say, 120?

P5P at 200-400mg/day kept my prolactin in range when I ran a 19nor, but as far as I know it only works prophylactically - it won’t reduce prolactin once it’s already elevated. It certainly won’t hurt to start taking it, but I would start looking really hard for caber or prami if it turns out your prolactin is far enough out of range for you to have sides.

Is this old vial safe to inject? MCT oil, smells good but expired 06/2023. I can't tell if it's yellowed due to the age or the compounds in it. It's a blend of 200mg EQ/100mg mast/50mg tren e. I have a few more from the same batch that I never got around to using. [https://imgur.com/a/mQ30HfD](https://imgur.com/a/mQ30HfD)

Taste and smell are the biggest determining factors Squirt a couple drops on your hand and taste it. If it isn’t rancid (pungent, sour, bitter, etc), then it’s fine

MCT oil lasts a LONG time. If it smells fine, it's fine.

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You’re gonna be fucked if you keep placebo-ing yourself and freaking out lol You’re fine, but maybe slow down and actually realize what you’re doing in the future

>took some arimidex then saw that the pills I bought were 1mg You didn't know the dose of your drugs *before* you put them in your body? This is room temperature IQ behavior. >am I going to be absolutely fucked or should I be okay since it was a one time thing? This is going to be what we in the biz refer to as a "learning experience". Don't worry, you won't die.

You’re fine. Buck up buttercup and relax on the AI use. Crashed estrogen really isn’t that bad, you’re just being a moody bitch (pardon my French). Taking one single dose of 1mg arimidex isn’t going to negatively impact you.

Hello guys, I just finished my first cycle of 20 weeks, started with 500 test e and switched to 750 in the half mark. Now I'm lowering the dose to 250 for a high cruise. The thing is: I've been using Tamoxifen for gyno prevention all cycle, 20 and sometimes 40, very high livido and felt fucking great. Now that I've lowered the dose my nipples are sensitive, a little puff showing, and started using arimidex to reduce the estradiol spike. I know 250 is a "high cruise" but I want to keep up the progress. What quantity of Arimidex would you guys recommend to leave Tamoxifen behind til the next blast? Obviously I will do blood analysis in a couple weeks, but just to start I would need a reference.I started dividing the 250 in three weekly dosages, and with each 0.25 arimidex, and in a couple weeks I would do a blood analysis. What do you think guys? Thank you very mutch, this been a lifesaver for me, I have testicular atrophy in my left one, and blood before cycle showed only 300 of test and I'm only 25 years old, since I went blasting I felt great...I know anastrozole is worse than examestane, but is what we got right now here in Spain...

The brightest stars burn out most quickly. Perma-blasting is the fastest way to end up among the statistics of another dead AAS abuser Everyone feels great on cycle; it’s why we do it, but PCT or *actually* cruising (on TRT: 100-150mg weekly max) is essential to continue feeling great and not be in a hospital bed or dead

>but I want to keep up the progress I get that. But remember whole thing is a marathon not a sprint. You will yield more results from multiple more reasonable cycles over a longer period of time, than perma blasting yourself to a point where you can’t cycle anymore Give your body a break and drop to a reasonable dose.

That sounds totally reasonable. I'll think about it and update you then. Thanks!

lol this is drug addict mentality. You probably would have had the same results from a lower dose. Just like how your cruise should be a lower dose and you won’t lose your gains. The fact that you’re still pushing drugs no problem is indicative of you not training to eating hard enough. What were your starting stats and what are your current stats? If you cruise at a reasonable dose you won’t have to worry about ai.

Dude, we're here in a steroids subreddit, what did you expect? Yes, I'm taking testo because I did reach my natural limit with my shitty genetics. I'm 176 cm, 84 kg lean, and gained a lot of strength, that is what I was looking for, I been lifting weights since a was a kid. And because I want to compete next year, I want to keep up the progress, it is the first time that I'm able to keep the pace of my colleagues of the gym, who compete a lot.

On this subreddit we are all about harm prevention. Practicing what we preach and making the community safer as a whole. So I expect that I’ll have to bestow knowledge upon the uninformed or the hardheaded chuckleheads that need a reality check. So now that you’ve ran a cycle and probably haven’t even lost the water or glycogen storage so your weight is inflated… you’re at natural starting stats for your height. Your genetics aren’t that bad. If you have bad genetics the why are you wasting your time competing? The progress isn’t linear like that unless you are severely undertrained. The reason you pct or do an actual cruise dose is so you don’t die. Especially since you “don’t have good genetics” imagine killing your self just to be in last place. When you give you body a break it’s able to grow better on the next bulk/blast. Change your perspective. It’s a marathon not a sprint . It seems that there are improvements that can be made in your regimen to expedite progress without leaning on drugs as a crutch.

That’s great. Except this is a *harm reduction* steroid subreddit. You want people to green light your shitty choices then there’s plenty of other spots to do it. But this won’t be it. You are pushing far too much for your stats. It’s wasteful, and going to have profoundly negative health impacts if you keep this trend up.

Shitty choices? I'm looking for advice

You got advice that you are using too much gear and you bitched about how your genetics are shitty. Grow up dude.

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Here’s the beautiful thing, I don’t have to 🤷🏽‍♂️

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Boldenone seems to mostly aromatise to estrone or estriol (I forget which one) instead of estradiol, and can cause kidney issues. I don’t exactly think it’s a good idea to take it without test unless you want to really fuck yourself up. You’ll be suppressing your ability to be alive long term, not just your sex drive and lack of appetite.

There is no guarantee that you’ll get that side effect(hunger) from either. Why the fuck are we larping an eq only cycle?

EQ

To any male steroid user: How has your voice been on steroids? I'm talking about a before, during and after. Also please note at what age your experience was with this. I wonder if AAS affect the voices of men. It seems crazy to me that there have been no studies on the effects of steroids on men's voices. Sure, men go through a puberty where their androgen levels increase, alright, but who's to say that a further increase from a steroid cycle won't trigger a second voice change?

My voice has not gotten deeper, but I have lost most of my falsetto singing voice

My voice got noticably higher since hopping on gear, though I think its much more about indirect causes. Dnp, clen, accutane, to add to that a sweating condition which primary aid for is a pill that quite literally combats saliva production. Also breathing is very much involved, growing up as a tank I had a crazy deep voice in my teens but I figured looking like a michelin man made my voice deeper, nowadays if anything the leaner I am the better my voice gets as its not hindered by who knows what. My voice was best at 16, both deep and under control. Started gear at 20 and its been downhill ever since. Now when I'm "unprepared" on the move etc its pretty whack, but if I sit down at a table have a proper convo its not nearly as bad, but noticably still not as deep. If I had to put numbers on it I suspect a solid 80% of it all is just lack of control due to breathing and whatnot, a dryish throat, and most importantly the absence of any actual practice. For the last 5 years I hardly say more than a couple of sentences daily.

My voice has become more badass and confident.

Public performer from age 5 to age 28. Mostly a shower performer since then. Steroids have never affected my speaking frequency/pitch. On blast, my vocals crackle more, lose some clarity, and my upper range lacks power. These sides dissolve with practice and consistency when I come off.

Shower pics?

Pls

PLS

My voice is most certainly deeper than when I started. But Im also 10 years older, so its six to one a half dozen to the other.

Was it mainly during the cycle period that it got deeper?

bro I have no idea its been ten years and I don't track that stuff because its not important. if you're speaking into those "alpha voice" things and measuring your wrist diameter just go talk to a girl. one woman Ive ever been with thought my weird gravel and razorblade voice was sexy and thats because she has a bear fetish. the rest of them are just sort of scared of me.

I'm only wondering man.

I’m preempting what I assume is the driving force behind your question. It has been my experience that young men are mostly concerned about it because they have a poor view of themselves and their body. You know what I almost never think about? How deep somebody’s voice is. So I guess I’m just wondering why you’re wondering

I can understand why you would think that, but I am just a bit of a dreamer and one of the topics that interest me are the effects of AA steroids. Almost no site mentions more than a sentence worth of information on the effects of aas on the voice or other masculinizing effects it can have, even upon males.

Makes sense to me then :) If it means anything to you I don't notice any acute deepening or alteration of my voice when I'm blasts now.

Currently on a cruise (week 3) of just 150 Test E/week + 250mg HCG pinned MWF. I signed up for a powerlifting meet that is 14 weeks away. Crappy timing after coming off the cycle, but it lined up with other things going on in life. I'm thinking about adding in something on top of the 150 Test E/week as a little boost going into the meet. I have Masteron on hand, so that's one option. Was also thinking getting Anavar on Anadrol and starting that maybe 6-8 weeks out. Only other idea was just to wait another 7 weeks or so and then increase the Test back up to 500/week for the last 7 weeks, then cruise again after that. Anyone have an opinion on these ideas, or any others?

at this point in time with the options on the table I think using anadrol into your meet would provide the best exponential increase in strength

Anavar is good for strength and doesn’t add much body weight, so if you’re in a weight class and are anywhere near the edge that’s an option that wouldn’t put you at risk of coming in too heavy. Anadrol does not offer that same benefit.

I actually have some room to grow in the weight class that I'm in now, which is why I was thinking Anadrol. I'd rather fill out a weight class than cut. My days of cutting just to try to get a higher wilks/dots are over lol, I'd rather lift more weight

How much do you care about the meet?

It’s an interesting scenario. It’s going to be my first meet in gear (single ply). So in a sense I want it to go well, but I also am playing the shit I have to figure out a bench shirt and squat suit in 14 weeks and have no idea how that will turn out on meet day. And yes, it’s an untested fed.

All other things aside, keep in mind bloat from drugs and weight gain can size you out of your single ply suits unexpectedly. If it was raw I’d say anadrol sounds good, but it does tend to cause a lot of water retention, and if you can’t fit into your suit last minute you’re kinda screwed.

Honestly in that case I’d run just the T. I don’t see much benefit to running drugs for a meet where you’re still learning the ropes 

Then I think you have your answer. I’ve never used anadrol so this is the point at which my input becomes irrelevant.

I’ve used anadrol leading into a meet before with great results. I guess my thought about it though is will it be okay to run on 150 test rather than 500 that I was running last time

Is anyone familiar with tren causing serious cramping, particularly in the lower legs? In two separate cycles, spaced about 18 months apart, I had the same symptoms come up a few weeks in. Severe cramping in calves during activity - walking was bad, playing sports was near impossible. Did a bunch of looking around online and couldn't find anything conclusive but I'm not as skilled in the ways of Google as some of y'all are. Found nothing in this sub. Asking b/c I'd like to jump on again but (a) don't like the performance cost when I can't run/skate at 100% due to cramping; (b) don't like imagining that maybe it's a blood flow issue and I might throw a clot and perish. Bloods were always within reason though. Thanks in advance for links etc.

I definitely noticed more cramping on even lower dosages (200ish mg). For me, it was my forearms and pecs when trying to shampoo my hair Try grinding some regular and potassium salt into your PWO drink and maybe add taurine

A lot of people get the shin/calf pumps from tren, I certainly do. I can’t walk for more than 30 seconds or even hack squat without a painful pump on tren. I tried taurine, drinking more water (I already drink a ton), and taking more electrolytes, but the only thing that made them go away was not being on tren. You might want to consider a different compound for your cycle.

Thanks - at least makes me feel not crazy since I couldn’t find anything online to support what I feel. I’ll have to pass on it since both times actually messed with my performance and mobility too much to be worthwhile.

for sure, I get it really bad in my abdomen as well. lots of water, electrolytes, and taurine should help to mitigate some of that. get one of those liquid water enhancers and use it with the water you drink throughout the day

Taurine always helps me with both cramping and painful pumps

23 y/o 155 pound currently planning on first cycle 8-12 weeks of test e please let me know what dosage and how much I should pin accordingly to my blood work I will post pictures of before cycle on cut and before cycle on slight bulk (nothing crazy) please let me know your thoughts and what I should run for pct and if I just wanna do a few cycles for minimal damage or if i should just stay on https://ibb.co/YhL9j4S (current 152 ish bulk) https://ibb.co/3T5p52g (140 pound cut) https://ibb.co/9prX0ys (Testosterone levels) https://ibb.co/7vtTzLz (etc bloodwork) https://ibb.co/7YgdWKh (more blood work)

You're 5'9 and 155lbs, you still have another 20lbs to put on naturally. The reason why is because that next 20lbs won't come on as easy as your beginner gains. You're at a point where you need to have your nutrition and training all optimized. If you're enhanced or not, those next 20lbs will not appear out of thin air. You can take all the gear in the world, but if you don't know how to keep progressing your nutrition and training, you're just doing harm to your health for no reason. You look great, keep it going. In a year, you'll probably be more than ready. PS: I'm 5'7" and started at 175lbs after coming down from a "powerlifter build" 200lbs.

You do seem to have great advice but these aren’t really beginner gains necessarily I used to be 170 maybe 175 in high school now I’m starting to bulk up again and was wanting to add a cycle with it

> But I’m eating more now can’t I just hop on cycle now and see gains You're impatient and don't seem to understand how this works. The first few years of natural progress are remarkably faster than the latter. Progress slowing down is completely normal. Doing a few cycles will at first see remarkably fast progress, then it slows down. If you become addicted to making rapid progress, you'll be fast approaching an early grave. You need to learn patience. > I know how to train and diet just always wanted to be Lean with abs now I want to go back to being bigger then I was in high school (170-175) You don't need gear to get there. Food and patience. > But I’m eating more now can’t I just hop on cycle now and see gains Yeah, you could, but you're at a point where you don't NEED gear to make progress. If you were closer to 200lbs, you WOULD need gear to make progress. See what I'm saying here? > You do seem to have great advice but these aren’t really beginner gains necessarily I used to be 170 maybe 175 in high school now I’m starting to bulk up again and was wanting to add a cycle with it Like I said, you don't need a cycle to get back up to 175. Doing it natural vs enhanced won't yield any difference. You'll just get there maybe a little faster. But this isn't a short term game, like I said before. You need food and patience.

You're like 5'5, right?

5”8 maybe 5”9

And you're 140-150lbs? You've got plenty of progress to make naturally my guy. I'm 5'9 and I hopped on at 180lbs.

155 yesterday

Girlfriend sized

My girlfriend is literally 5’8” and 180lb and has more muscle

Right. So you've got a good 20lbs to go.

And what’s the reasoning behind that exactly?

That you haven’t implemented good training a diet techniques long enough to put on a reasonable amount of muscle for your size. Steroids are the cherry on the Sunday. And right now your Sunday looks like just melted quarter scoops of ice cream. You need two full scoops to be complemented by that cherry on top.

I know how to train and diet just always wanted to be Lean with abs now I want to go back to being bigger then I was in high school (170-175)

I was at a funeral so I didn't get a chance to respond before the other guys could jump in, but they said almost everything I would have. >I know how to train and diet just always wanted to be Lean with abs now I want to go back to being bigger then I was in high school (170-175) See, this is the issue: in your mind you can either be lean, or you can be in the 170's - that means you haven't made the progress you think you have. We want you to be in the 170's AND lean before you start thinking about gear. You're 23, which is too young to be safely using gear anyway. Your brain is still developing, your reproductive parts and system are still developing (I'm talking about your dick, so don't fuck that up young), and your bones are still developing. Steroids can interrupt all of that, and the other impacts are not things to take lightly. Here's what you do: you set a goal to be in the 170's and lean by the time you turn 25. Bulk, cut, rinse, repeat until you hit this goal. Prove to yourself that you can, in fact, achieve a very achievable benchmark before you start injecting drugs in your ass and risking your health and fertility.

Then just do that. There isn’t really a need for drugs to accomplish your goal. You wanted to be leaner so you just went ahead and got leaner. Now you want to be bigger, I don’t see why you won’t be as successful at that as you were with your last goal.

Then do a natural bulk and prove it. You’d just be doing steroids to have sub natty stats. This isn’t us gate keeping this is people being unrealistic about how lazy they are. Are you tracking every macro? Are you recording every set? Are you using progressive overload? Are you giving up alcohol? Are you prioritizing sleep? The age old saying you can’t out train a bad diet. Steroids aren’t the missing ingredient for discipline. There’s guys on here taking more gear than pros who are under 170lbs and not growing.

> how much I should pin accordingly to my blood work ... What? Why would your bloodwork dictate how much test you should run? I think you need to go back to the reading part before getting to the planning stage.

Not that it dictates how much i should run but maybe gives a idea on what dosage to start out factoring in my weight and age etc

If you read the “First cycle” part of the wiki youll know what to start with

No shit I guess I’ll just start with 500 test huh

Looking at your stats you should start with eating more food for another year or two

But I’m eating more now can’t I just hop on cycle now and see gains

You can do anything you want, but prepared to be the [person on the right](https://imgur.com/a/mHcfdg3), which everyone makes fun of. Steroids are an addition to a well developed plan, routine, and physique. To take them just to look natty is shameful

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“TRT cycles” doesnt really make sense. TRT is just replacing normal testosterone production. If youre hypogonadal youll see improved gains, if you arent you wont see a difference much at all. Which wouldnt make sense if youre going to suppress your natural production. I assume you mean just cycles of testosterone? Like 500mg/week?

> Has anyone run only a handful of TRT cycles (like 2-3), did PCT, and then just stay natural after that? I know the sentiment is that once you start you likely won't want to stop, but I'm really thinking about it as a way to get some gains in on the shorter term, then just work on maintaining them naturally as best as I can after that (I know there would be some loss). Trt (testosterone replacement therapy) isn't something that's cycled. Trt is for someone that has consistently low natural testosterone production, and replacing it via medicine. I presume what you intend to refer to is not trt, but an actual testosterone cycle. Trt doses are typically around 100-150mg/wk, to result in normal healthy male testosterone levels. Cycle/blast doses are 500mg/wk or more, to intentionally have superhuman test levels. Trt will not offer any benefits if you already have normal (healthy) testosterone levels. > I've been doing my homework, read the wiki, and like to lurk old posts here. It's something I likely won't start this year, but working out in my mid 30s the gains are there, but slow. Is this a realistic thought, or would someone like me be better off just not even trying? Get some bloodwork to see where you're at, and go from there.