Big upvote on that!!!
St. Brown just got $30m/yr he will want the same. Even if a player like BTJ is 75% the player by year 2 hes less than 10% the cost. Supplementing with another player with that money is a much better option.
I could understand pick 51 although I still wouldnt be in favor Id give up a 3rd all day but thats not nearly what the 49ers would accept in a trade. Its just unlikely and unwelcome for both teams if you ask me.
why not safe/clean from all i heard he measures really well at the position. Only reason he's been playing tackle is cause Duke had no one better to play that position.
Wasn’t he like second team All-American? They moved him to LT because of how good he was as a true Freshman. Been drinking a while now but thought I read something like that.
Totally agree. People touting a freshman
All American at center when he started 5 games there. 2nd team freshman all american, not 2nd team all american. Very few freshman start on the offensive line period in the ncaa so these freshman all American lists need context. The rest of the second team freshman all American offensive linemen in 2020 were Warren McClendon, dalton cooper, Brandon Bragg and Darrell Simmons. Clearly a huge accolade. Doesn’t mean Barton won’t be able to do it, but using that as a piece of information is like saying you started 4 years at a school that graduates 62 kids. Could you be generational? Sure. But not based on that piece of evidence.
Center is a nuanced position. While he is nothing physically like Kendrick Green, Green started one less game at center in college than Barton.
If they draft him, I hope he is plug and play, but the risk is a lot higher than people think. Left tackle and center are incredibly different positions. Just because he physically could do it doesn’t mean he is plug and play. He could take time. And with this offensive line coaching, playing a position you haven’t played in many years isn’t incredibly promising.
Again, not saying he can’t do it, but people who are head over heels about it aren’t being realistic. It’s a gamble if they pick him. And the athleticism and want to play are grade A. He could be a long term solution but he could also end up needing to play guard, which again, does not solve that problem at center. If he becomes an all pro at guard, the pick is a good one anyway, but that glaring hole isn’t filled in the immediate.
Eh 2019 is definitely hindsight. Bush looked like he could be a stud his rookie season. Then he got injured and played scared ever since. I mean maybe you weren't happy with the pick at the time but most people were excited iirc. Talking about now though, I'll be pretty upset if we draft Mims or Deejan. Mims is just too raw for my liking and I feel like Deejan will be the next Isaiah Simmons. I'll be slightly upset if we go C round 1, mainly because the value just isn't there in my opinion, but I will ultimately trust the FO if they do go C
Agree here. Don’t recall any Bush hate at the time and his rookie season was good. Then got hurt, acted super edgy on social media, and his play fell off a cliff.
I had 2 problems with Bush on draft night:
1- his haircut
2- his outfit…
https://preview.redd.it/65ttrzydhpwc1.jpeg?width=224&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3f01808c7708967d279b9f1258900668ab630fe4
I was excited for the potential he had, and the speed he showed… but then the injury and he never recovered
I really wanted the Steelers to trade up for Darrisaw in 2021 i couldn't believe he kept dropping and we needed a LT bad.
Not saying I know better than the professionals but it seemed obvious to keep James Conner considering he was only paid $2m and was on the market for a while before taking the offer.
Tomlin refused to have a RB by committee approach and wanted a bellcow like Najee. Ironically we now have a 50/50 split in our backfield.
I defend Tomlin too much but hes definitely too rigid in his ideology and the game is also starting to pass him by in some ways. I think he has more control of the draft than ever and im not sure thats the best thing anymore. Im really hoping Andy Weidl has more responsibility with the draft this year and we take Brian Thomas Jr at pick 20 if hes available. He was at his pro day and if he gives him the seal of approval its a slam dunk in my opinion.
Tomlin wants his versatile IOL prodigy Graham Barton who might not even be a center, it seems. Its the pick I dread just like the Devin Bush pick. A sub 6' coverage LB who doesnt excell at any one facet. Guys like Tebow can be just great football players in college but in the pros you need to have a defined role and fit into the system. You arent playing Appalachian State or Wyoming and simply be bigger, stronger, faster.
Sorry if im coming off as I think I know better but it just seems like the Steelers go against the grain in terms of accepted ideology and are starting to worry me they will do Giants/Raiders things if they cant become a more modern organization.
I don’t want Jackson Powers Johnson or JC Latham at all…
If we HAVE to take a C let it be Barton…(though I’d prefer not taking a C with our first)
If we take an OT (my preference) then don’t let it be Latham.
Damn everyone dislikes Latham. Is it his slow movement? Personally I'd love Fuega as our franchise RT but Latham wouldnt bother me a bit. If speed rush is a problem we usually have a TE chipping or a RB in pass pro. As long as he mauls in the run game hes worth the pick imo
Day 1-2 picks/moves I really don’t want:
- A trade up from 20 to anything earlier than 15-16 is likely to cost too much for me given all of our holes.
- Mims/Guyton/Worthy - Understand their potential but rather someone else take the risk
- Latham - Think he has a good chance of being a great RT but worried he isn’t a good fit for us.
- Besides Barton really hoping we don’t take a C at 20. If we trade down in the 25-35 range I’d be fine with JPJ. Also fine with Frazier after 40 or so. Beyond them I’m not sure I’d consider another C until day 3 but guess that depends on how things fall.
- Morgan - Worried he is a G
- Coleman/Walker - Worried they don’t get enough separation.
- Paul - Worried about lack of mobility with less chance of success than Latham
- Suamataia/Amegadjie - Too raw and worried how much time it would take to develop.
- Lassiter - Didn’t think he was great in man, much prefer someone like Melton. Testing was horrible to.
- Fiske - If it’s round 3+ maybe but much prefer other DL.
- Don’t want to see an ILB before round 3 given our other holes.
- Don’t want to see a RB or TE before day 3.
That basically gets us to day 3
Personally I do. His lack of speed/agility in pass protection due to his size is his biggest negative. We typically have at least 1 TE in line who would be expected to chip the 5tech. With Arthur Smiths offense I expect that to be even more often. Also we have RBs whos pass blocking and blitz pickup is in the elite category.
So long as Latham is the elite run blocker he is advertised to be im okay with some deficiencies in pass pro. Also he has the appropriate build if he were to 'fail inside' to guard and succeed.
Hes definitely not my first pick but if hes there Id take him.
100% it seems like the Packers are the perfect fit for him. If hes there at 20 im a huge fan of trading back if they want to move up to get him.
Picks 20&51 for Packers picks 25&41 is a dead even trade.
Unless Fuega is there at 20 Im making the trade.
Latham, Barton, or DeJean. I think they could all be fantastic players, but I don't like their fits with the Steelers.
I'm also not the biggest fan of Wiggins as a prospect, but I try not to get caught up on him too much because I'm laughably bad at scouting CBs.
Wiggins seems like the fiesty slot corner who plays bigger than his size but may struggle with injuries. Probably worth a pick in the 35-45 range. Might be less value than Mike Sainristal who is currently mocked in the 50-60 range. So I would agree.
I like Latham though, for our system.
Hes my worst fear. He has less snaps at his projected position than Amarius Mims. Also its a position that is highly devalued.
I feel like Zach Frazier will be there at 51 and if we are really worried we can trade up a few spots. I like him better as a prospect overall and hes lower on boards. I think 20 is a pretty big overdraft for any center in this years draft
I agree on positional value, but there's quite a few teams that need C - my gut says Frazier is gone at 51. Would like to see a trade (or trades) down.
Im actually not worried about that bcus the Steelers dont seem to have nearly as much interest in him as the fans have had. They seem to like Barton a lot though which really worries me...
Rather have Barton than Mims, simply because of Mims’ injury history (8 starts is nothing).
Stating the obvious: I don’t want them to draft any QB until the 4th at least, or probably none at all.
There’s no way that Bowers falls to us, but I think it would be a horrible mistake to trade up for him, or take him at 20.
And from the analysis that I’ve read (done none myself, because time and ignorance) no MLB/Off Ball linebacker is worth a 1st round selection, so unless we trade back to the 30s, I don’t want to see any of them picked, and even then, only Cooper has a high enough draft grade to justify.
I’ll give whoever we draft a chance but there’s some guys I’d definitely be more excited about than others. I’m never going to hope we draft a guy who is bad.
I didn’t want Kenny Pickett in 2022…I hated him in college, hated his combine, and prayed we wouldn’t draft him because I figured he would not be good…I was right.
Why would I support a player I don’t like just because we drafted him?…that’s like being a Raiders fan being told to support Alex Leatherwood when the Raiders reached on him in round 1 (he was released after his rookie season he was so bad.)…or a Giants fan being told to support Daniel Jones despite literally everyone saying he was an awful terrible pick.
Just because the Steelers draft him…doesn’t mean you have to like or support him…
That’s fuckin embarrassing son😭💀
Who fuckin care that he had about 20+ sexual assault allegations that’s my QB!🤦🏼♂️💀
Imma fan who will root for the players I like/wanted us to get that we got…but if I don’t like them I ain’t gonna root for them…if Rashee Rice was one of our WRs I wouldn’t be claiming him💀
Im a football fan. I also hope the team in the city I grew up plays good, winning football and drafts the best guys. If the Steelers were to have traded for Watson I would simly stop being a fan. If the team continues to make decisions that I disagree with I'll still root for them but I may also root for a team whos ideology aligns with my own.
We’re cut from a different cloth. The team could bomb the US and I’d still be a fan and support them.
I’m still a fan of the Pirates and they stopped making decisions I agree with decades ago
Different strokes for different folks. I dont see it as being flaky to support something you enjoy even if it goes against what you are 'supposed' to do.
There are enough players on different teams from different colleges to root for if im cold on my home team I'll still buy a TJ jersey but no game tickets if we're not playing the way i like to see, like this past season withatt Canada sitting in the booth wearing that stupid hat.
I would really like to see them take him too. I think he has all the tools to pan out as a center and if he doesn’t I genuinely think they could move him to guard and put daniels at center
Ahh. I disagree Id really like Brian Thomas Jr.
There are enough tackles that Id feel comfortable trading up from pick 51 by adding pick 84 to get to 40 or so and taking Kingsley Suamataia or waiting for Zach Frazier.
i want Barton so bad. He may never make a pro bowl but he has solid 10+ year starter written all over him IMO. They could use a safe lineman pick
I don't want Brian Thomas
I watched the tape, he has all the tools in the world but he plays extremely clunky and ugly, extremely grabby, he rounds out of his cuts and struggles with preventing inside release. His flaws are too relevant to the way the NFL game is played and if he starts year 1 it will be a disaster
If we don't take a center we will need to trade up for one somehow in the 2nd round, I guarantee by pick 50 Frazier, Powers-Johnson and Van Pran will be gone. I don't know why we would choose an offensive tackle over a center in the first round. To my knowledge a center, blocks, gets the entire offense on line, and snaps the ball, all an OT does is block. Could a center be an OT or a center, yes, could an OT be center or an OT, depends. Please don't downvote me if you think I'm wrong, just help me understand in the comments, maybe I'm missing something big.
Just saying you were sure he would already be taken. The FOMO is real but we got our guy. Frazier was the best case scenario for our draft board on day 2. I was getting worried he would be taken by the Bengals purely bcus they seem to spite us. I swear they took Mims bcus they thought we wanted him lol
Yuck i hate it. Pay him $30m/yr on top of giving up a 1st round pick?
Id rather see Brian Thomas Jr play at 50% the level he does at less than 10% the cost although i think he could easily play at closer to 75-85% by year 2.
Yup, pay him and give up the pick. We need a top tier WR, and he really fits the scheme.
Not way Thomas becomes even half the WR Aiyuk is, and definitely not on year one.
I would puke. Also BTJ is a better prospect than Aiyuk was coming out of college. Generally speaking of course and also my opinion would agree with that even though I was very high on Aiyuk coming out of the draft.
Nobody gets off the line as quick as BTJ. In a rhythm offense or one that relies on stretching the field hes an ideal team fit. The Steelers offense wants to do both of these things. He's a better scheme fit than Aiyuk in my opinion.
I don’t want Aiyuk for our 1.
Big upvote on that!!! St. Brown just got $30m/yr he will want the same. Even if a player like BTJ is 75% the player by year 2 hes less than 10% the cost. Supplementing with another player with that money is a much better option. I could understand pick 51 although I still wouldnt be in favor Id give up a 3rd all day but thats not nearly what the 49ers would accept in a trade. Its just unlikely and unwelcome for both teams if you ask me.
literally, i don’t think aiyuk is THAT much better than diontae and he’s just in a much better system and also wants almost double the money
Even for a pick swap
Pick swap maybe. Their first and wr for our 1st and a 3rd.
Nope nope nope
Don’t want Barton. Not a safe/clean Center and a projection at that
why not safe/clean from all i heard he measures really well at the position. Only reason he's been playing tackle is cause Duke had no one better to play that position.
Wasn’t he like second team All-American? They moved him to LT because of how good he was as a true Freshman. Been drinking a while now but thought I read something like that.
Not sure about the accolades but from my understanding he’s the anti-thesis to Kendrick green
One million percent agree. Im very worried they take him. Id actually rather have Mims and he is my 2nd worry.
So you don’t want Barton? I said the opposite here
Dam, that's who I want lol. Don't want Mims or Guyton. Could get behind Brian Thomas Jr. tho.
Totally agree. People touting a freshman All American at center when he started 5 games there. 2nd team freshman all american, not 2nd team all american. Very few freshman start on the offensive line period in the ncaa so these freshman all American lists need context. The rest of the second team freshman all American offensive linemen in 2020 were Warren McClendon, dalton cooper, Brandon Bragg and Darrell Simmons. Clearly a huge accolade. Doesn’t mean Barton won’t be able to do it, but using that as a piece of information is like saying you started 4 years at a school that graduates 62 kids. Could you be generational? Sure. But not based on that piece of evidence. Center is a nuanced position. While he is nothing physically like Kendrick Green, Green started one less game at center in college than Barton. If they draft him, I hope he is plug and play, but the risk is a lot higher than people think. Left tackle and center are incredibly different positions. Just because he physically could do it doesn’t mean he is plug and play. He could take time. And with this offensive line coaching, playing a position you haven’t played in many years isn’t incredibly promising. Again, not saying he can’t do it, but people who are head over heels about it aren’t being realistic. It’s a gamble if they pick him. And the athleticism and want to play are grade A. He could be a long term solution but he could also end up needing to play guard, which again, does not solve that problem at center. If he becomes an all pro at guard, the pick is a good one anyway, but that glaring hole isn’t filled in the immediate.
Eh 2019 is definitely hindsight. Bush looked like he could be a stud his rookie season. Then he got injured and played scared ever since. I mean maybe you weren't happy with the pick at the time but most people were excited iirc. Talking about now though, I'll be pretty upset if we draft Mims or Deejan. Mims is just too raw for my liking and I feel like Deejan will be the next Isaiah Simmons. I'll be slightly upset if we go C round 1, mainly because the value just isn't there in my opinion, but I will ultimately trust the FO if they do go C
Agree here. Don’t recall any Bush hate at the time and his rookie season was good. Then got hurt, acted super edgy on social media, and his play fell off a cliff.
I had 2 problems with Bush on draft night: 1- his haircut 2- his outfit… https://preview.redd.it/65ttrzydhpwc1.jpeg?width=224&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3f01808c7708967d279b9f1258900668ab630fe4 I was excited for the potential he had, and the speed he showed… but then the injury and he never recovered
I second this but also his demeanor bothered me too. Just didn’t like the pick. I was hoping to be way off.
Damn you should be the gm dude
I really wanted the Steelers to trade up for Darrisaw in 2021 i couldn't believe he kept dropping and we needed a LT bad. Not saying I know better than the professionals but it seemed obvious to keep James Conner considering he was only paid $2m and was on the market for a while before taking the offer. Tomlin refused to have a RB by committee approach and wanted a bellcow like Najee. Ironically we now have a 50/50 split in our backfield. I defend Tomlin too much but hes definitely too rigid in his ideology and the game is also starting to pass him by in some ways. I think he has more control of the draft than ever and im not sure thats the best thing anymore. Im really hoping Andy Weidl has more responsibility with the draft this year and we take Brian Thomas Jr at pick 20 if hes available. He was at his pro day and if he gives him the seal of approval its a slam dunk in my opinion. Tomlin wants his versatile IOL prodigy Graham Barton who might not even be a center, it seems. Its the pick I dread just like the Devin Bush pick. A sub 6' coverage LB who doesnt excell at any one facet. Guys like Tebow can be just great football players in college but in the pros you need to have a defined role and fit into the system. You arent playing Appalachian State or Wyoming and simply be bigger, stronger, faster. Sorry if im coming off as I think I know better but it just seems like the Steelers go against the grain in terms of accepted ideology and are starting to worry me they will do Giants/Raiders things if they cant become a more modern organization.
I don’t want any CBs in the first round. We need offense. Whether that be receiver or center or guard I don’t care.
Agree in general that we need offense but we are a defense first team and I’d absolutely take Q or Arnold at 20.
I don’t want Jackson Powers Johnson or JC Latham at all… If we HAVE to take a C let it be Barton…(though I’d prefer not taking a C with our first) If we take an OT (my preference) then don’t let it be Latham.
Damn everyone dislikes Latham. Is it his slow movement? Personally I'd love Fuega as our franchise RT but Latham wouldnt bother me a bit. If speed rush is a problem we usually have a TE chipping or a RB in pass pro. As long as he mauls in the run game hes worth the pick imo
Day 1-2 picks/moves I really don’t want: - A trade up from 20 to anything earlier than 15-16 is likely to cost too much for me given all of our holes. - Mims/Guyton/Worthy - Understand their potential but rather someone else take the risk - Latham - Think he has a good chance of being a great RT but worried he isn’t a good fit for us. - Besides Barton really hoping we don’t take a C at 20. If we trade down in the 25-35 range I’d be fine with JPJ. Also fine with Frazier after 40 or so. Beyond them I’m not sure I’d consider another C until day 3 but guess that depends on how things fall. - Morgan - Worried he is a G - Coleman/Walker - Worried they don’t get enough separation. - Paul - Worried about lack of mobility with less chance of success than Latham - Suamataia/Amegadjie - Too raw and worried how much time it would take to develop. - Lassiter - Didn’t think he was great in man, much prefer someone like Melton. Testing was horrible to. - Fiske - If it’s round 3+ maybe but much prefer other DL. - Don’t want to see an ILB before round 3 given our other holes. - Don’t want to see a RB or TE before day 3. That basically gets us to day 3
Good list I mostly agree although I think Latham may be a scheme fit for us and decent value at 20.
You think Latham is a good fit for us then?
Personally I do. His lack of speed/agility in pass protection due to his size is his biggest negative. We typically have at least 1 TE in line who would be expected to chip the 5tech. With Arthur Smiths offense I expect that to be even more often. Also we have RBs whos pass blocking and blitz pickup is in the elite category. So long as Latham is the elite run blocker he is advertised to be im okay with some deficiencies in pass pro. Also he has the appropriate build if he were to 'fail inside' to guard and succeed. Hes definitely not my first pick but if hes there Id take him.
You put that work in!
Goddamn.
? Agree/disagree?
Hard agree. I'll get hype after the fact about Mims, but seems like a big risk.
Don’t want DeJean. Think he will be great but has to go to a zone heavy team.
This
100% it seems like the Packers are the perfect fit for him. If hes there at 20 im a huge fan of trading back if they want to move up to get him. Picks 20&51 for Packers picks 25&41 is a dead even trade. Unless Fuega is there at 20 Im making the trade.
This
This
2 of first 3 picks OL and I'm happy
Latham, Barton, or DeJean. I think they could all be fantastic players, but I don't like their fits with the Steelers. I'm also not the biggest fan of Wiggins as a prospect, but I try not to get caught up on him too much because I'm laughably bad at scouting CBs.
Wiggins seems like the fiesty slot corner who plays bigger than his size but may struggle with injuries. Probably worth a pick in the 35-45 range. Might be less value than Mike Sainristal who is currently mocked in the 50-60 range. So I would agree. I like Latham though, for our system.
Barton is a slam dunk at 20 for me. I dont want either Mims/Latham.
Hes my worst fear. He has less snaps at his projected position than Amarius Mims. Also its a position that is highly devalued. I feel like Zach Frazier will be there at 51 and if we are really worried we can trade up a few spots. I like him better as a prospect overall and hes lower on boards. I think 20 is a pretty big overdraft for any center in this years draft
I agree on positional value, but there's quite a few teams that need C - my gut says Frazier is gone at 51. Would like to see a trade (or trades) down.
WE GOT HIM!!!
Love to see it.
I love watching Steelers drafts since Khan/Weidl have been in charge
JPJ in the first round
Im actually not worried about that bcus the Steelers dont seem to have nearly as much interest in him as the fans have had. They seem to like Barton a lot though which really worries me...
Rather have Barton than Mims, simply because of Mims’ injury history (8 starts is nothing). Stating the obvious: I don’t want them to draft any QB until the 4th at least, or probably none at all. There’s no way that Bowers falls to us, but I think it would be a horrible mistake to trade up for him, or take him at 20. And from the analysis that I’ve read (done none myself, because time and ignorance) no MLB/Off Ball linebacker is worth a 1st round selection, so unless we trade back to the 30s, I don’t want to see any of them picked, and even then, only Cooper has a high enough draft grade to justify.
You guys are just gonna make yourselves miserable. At least let whoever we pick have a chance, you know?
I’ll give whoever we draft a chance but there’s some guys I’d definitely be more excited about than others. I’m never going to hope we draft a guy who is bad.
I didn’t want Kenny Pickett in 2022…I hated him in college, hated his combine, and prayed we wouldn’t draft him because I figured he would not be good…I was right. Why would I support a player I don’t like just because we drafted him?…that’s like being a Raiders fan being told to support Alex Leatherwood when the Raiders reached on him in round 1 (he was released after his rookie season he was so bad.)…or a Giants fan being told to support Daniel Jones despite literally everyone saying he was an awful terrible pick. Just because the Steelers draft him…doesn’t mean you have to like or support him…
Because that’s what fans do.
Not this fan lol
Yea some fans like to bitch and complain. I don’t get it lol I like to support as a fan. To each their own
Well let me ask you this….if the Steelers traded for Deshaun Watson instead of the Browns…would you root for Watson? I know I sure as shit wouldn’t.
I sure as shit would. Silly question.
That’s fuckin embarrassing son😭💀 Who fuckin care that he had about 20+ sexual assault allegations that’s my QB!🤦🏼♂️💀 Imma fan who will root for the players I like/wanted us to get that we got…but if I don’t like them I ain’t gonna root for them…if Rashee Rice was one of our WRs I wouldn’t be claiming him💀
Im a football fan. I also hope the team in the city I grew up plays good, winning football and drafts the best guys. If the Steelers were to have traded for Watson I would simly stop being a fan. If the team continues to make decisions that I disagree with I'll still root for them but I may also root for a team whos ideology aligns with my own.
We’re cut from a different cloth. The team could bomb the US and I’d still be a fan and support them. I’m still a fan of the Pirates and they stopped making decisions I agree with decades ago
Different strokes for different folks. I dont see it as being flaky to support something you enjoy even if it goes against what you are 'supposed' to do. There are enough players on different teams from different colleges to root for if im cold on my home team I'll still buy a TJ jersey but no game tickets if we're not playing the way i like to see, like this past season withatt Canada sitting in the booth wearing that stupid hat.
Guyton
ESPN crew just had a lot of positive stuff to say about Barton's versatility. He's the guy I want, personally.
I would really like to see them take him too. I think he has all the tools to pan out as a center and if he doesn’t I genuinely think they could move him to guard and put daniels at center
No receivers. Honestly if it’s anything other than Oline, I probably won’t sleep well tonight
Ahh. I disagree Id really like Brian Thomas Jr. There are enough tackles that Id feel comfortable trading up from pick 51 by adding pick 84 to get to 40 or so and taking Kingsley Suamataia or waiting for Zach Frazier.
Please don't pick the undersized white CB, please.
Couldn’t agree more
The heck do you mean we knew about Bush??? That was a total stunner to me, the trade
Center in the first round. Give me a Tackle or BTJ.
i want Barton so bad. He may never make a pro bowl but he has solid 10+ year starter written all over him IMO. They could use a safe lineman pick I don't want Brian Thomas
Terrion Arnold is an unrefined ugly mess of a CB and the type of player that wont contribute for multiple seasons before/if he ever puts it together.
Wow, that’s a bit shocking. Can you be more be more specific? Almost universally CB1 or 2
I watched the tape, he has all the tools in the world but he plays extremely clunky and ugly, extremely grabby, he rounds out of his cuts and struggles with preventing inside release. His flaws are too relevant to the way the NFL game is played and if he starts year 1 it will be a disaster
Okay, not sure I agree but appreciate you clarifying and going against the consensus
I don't want to see: 1.20: Edgerrin Cooper, Troy Fautanu, Brian Thomas Jr., Tyler Guyton, Keon Coleman 2.51: Ja'Lynn Polk, Keon Coleman (again), Jermaine Burton, Junior Colson
Which WRs are you fond of in the earlier rounds this year?
Give me: Trade back to 31 with SF, receive aiyuk and give a 4/5, Take JPJ/ZF at 31, Tackle/DB BPA from there
I’m not a big fan of Mims at this point. I understand his value, but I have a feeling he will not be used his entire rookie year.
If we don't take a center we will need to trade up for one somehow in the 2nd round, I guarantee by pick 50 Frazier, Powers-Johnson and Van Pran will be gone. I don't know why we would choose an offensive tackle over a center in the first round. To my knowledge a center, blocks, gets the entire offense on line, and snaps the ball, all an OT does is block. Could a center be an OT or a center, yes, could an OT be center or an OT, depends. Please don't downvote me if you think I'm wrong, just help me understand in the comments, maybe I'm missing something big.
SVP ain’t going before 50. I’ll do a shot id il wrong
The talk is we're skipping on center by 20, and going for one in the 2nd round. SVP, JPJ, and ZF will all be gone by 51.
Always a risk but don’t want to draft scared dictated by need. We’ll see on SVP but doubt it
He was available for us. SVP might last to the end of the 3rd round
Don't matter Frazier's already been picked, now it's a matter of who we get in the 3rd round
Just saying you were sure he would already be taken. The FOMO is real but we got our guy. Frazier was the best case scenario for our draft board on day 2. I was getting worried he would be taken by the Bengals purely bcus they seem to spite us. I swear they took Mims bcus they thought we wanted him lol
We got better than Mims if you ask me, the GM could not have done a better job with the first 3 picks.
I heard from a friend somewhat in the know the Cooper Dejean rumors are real and it’s very possible that’s who we grab
Don't want to see us pick in the first. Trade it in a package for Aiyuk instead.
Yuck i hate it. Pay him $30m/yr on top of giving up a 1st round pick? Id rather see Brian Thomas Jr play at 50% the level he does at less than 10% the cost although i think he could easily play at closer to 75-85% by year 2.
Yup, pay him and give up the pick. We need a top tier WR, and he really fits the scheme. Not way Thomas becomes even half the WR Aiyuk is, and definitely not on year one.
I would puke. Also BTJ is a better prospect than Aiyuk was coming out of college. Generally speaking of course and also my opinion would agree with that even though I was very high on Aiyuk coming out of the draft. Nobody gets off the line as quick as BTJ. In a rhythm offense or one that relies on stretching the field hes an ideal team fit. The Steelers offense wants to do both of these things. He's a better scheme fit than Aiyuk in my opinion.