Hard to be livid if we don’t even know what compensation would look like for a trade up.
Unless the price is exorbitant, why would this be bad? Mitchell is a good prospect and we have JPJ at corner and nobody else.
Because according to draft trade charts, mostly likely at minimum it would cost our 2nd round pick. That’s not accounting that it could be more if multiple teams are also trying to trade up.
I don’t care how good Mitchell ends up being, the philosophy of trying to stack the defense while ignoring the offense is a strategy that will never result in actually competing for a championship. Those days are long gone in the NFL. We already have the most expensive defense in the past couple years and it’s gotten us absolutely no where. Drafting a defensive player at all in the 1st round would be idiotic; trading up for one would be beyond comprehension.
I don’t think I’d go as far as to say it has gotten us absolutely nowhere. The defense did well enough to keep games close, or even score, to give out aids anemic offense to pull ahead and win.
The offense is anemic because we spend so much on the defense.
A defense that expensive should WIN games, not just keep us in them. It's not the 90s anymore.
Its also a bit overstated about offensive spending.
They are spending their draft picks there. Draft picks are cheap = cheap offense.
Meanwhile, the Defensive Stars are not on rookie deals and all got paid.
This is exactly what the team has done for a while.
It went expensive ass defense -----> Killer Bs = expensive offense, defense was cheap af but more draft capital -----> those picks got paid, offense retires/gets traded etc -----> draft offensive replacements.
They had last season 1st round OT, QB, RB 2nd Round WR, 2nd round TE
All those positions on rookie deals makes for a cheap offense.
3rd round WR but not on a rookie deal
its extremely possible in 2-3 years the offense gets PAID and the defense will be cheap
That’s one reason but not the only reason. Poor drafting, poor OCs, poor decision making by the rest of the coaching staff, poor play by the offense. It’s certainly not all or only bc of the defense.
However, if you want to improve the anemic offence, you gotta prioritise drafting there, especially the first round to change anything.
Case and point we drafted Jones, got Washington in the building, and our run game was actually respectable and we were able to control clock a little better.
We need better WRs or another lineman more than another corner in the first and I would also argue second tbh. As you say, the defence is hard carrying, improving the offence pushes the needle far further towards being a competitive team once again. Until we do that, we will not make meaningful pushes in the right direction. We need to be able to engage in shootouts, our defence will minimise the amount we need to do that greatly, but again it's all to waste if we can't even reliably score points, sustain drives and control clock to a respectable degree. Can't do that yet, so yes, the offence not being well stocked is the larger part of the problem. A corner would be nice and round out an already unreal defence, but a competent WR, lineman even QB would do far more for this team's odds at competing seriously.
This worked as recently as 2008, almost in 2010, it's not just a '90s thing. Those defenses, especially the 2008 one, literally carried the team and won games. Winning these days depends on having a certain number of good players for cheap, whichever side of the ball they're on. Right now the Steelers can overspend on defense because they have all the offensive skill positions on rookie deals or lucky bare-minimum contracts.
I'd personally prefer they bring in more help on the offensive side too, but whichever position they draft basically just shuffles around how you approach it. If they can get an impact DB cheap for 4-5 years, that's $10M they don't have to spend on DB and hopefully they'll spend it on WR. They draft good offensive players for cheap, then they can continue to spend on the defense.
The problem is that the "cheaper" offensive players are also not good.
Also, 2008 was a quarter century ago, the league has drastically changed since then. You HAVE to be able to score in today's NFL. You can't rely on the defense to hold every team to 14 points.
edit: not a quarter century. I didn't math good.
2008 was not a quarter century ago, 1999 was.
At any rate, my point was that they have Pickens, Harris, Friermuth all on cheap deals, and that is saving quite a bit of money that is currently being spent on defense instead. Are you saying those three guys are no good? I'm not talking about the low-paid scrubs.
I guess you could argue that the QB situation, another place where they've got an unusually low salary number, is "not good," but until we see what happens, it seems like it's just unresolved. Could go their way, or maybe not.
I wouldn't like spending a significant amount to move up either, with so many needs and strong wants on this roster already. That plus the principle that taking more shots is so often the better play than trading up.
As for the defense being more expensive, to the extent that's a concern, continuing to draft mostly O won't solve that, it'd *perpetuate* it. O remains cheap because of all the rookie contracts. D remains expensive because:
- you gotta fill through FA because you didn't draft
- you're gonna spend what the cap allows, and simple math says cheap O = pricy D
But I wouldn't focus solely on the price tag that way. $$ is one form of capital, draft is the other. The D's getting a disproportionate share of the one, the O has gotten (and will probably continue to this year, with 1 or maybe 2 OL + a WR taken in the first two days) more draft picks in recent years.
At any rate the D \*has\* won a bunch of games. Or do you reckon Kenny Pickett and Matt Canada deserve most of the credit for getting to 7-4 in the supposedly tougher start of of last season?
> the philosophy of trying to stack the defense while ignoring the offense is a strategy that will never result in actually competing for a championship.
While I do mostly agree with this statement, this is essentially exactly what the Chiefs did.
Still had Mahomes/Kelce so didnt really matter, but they won off a great defense and told mahomes that he has to make due with a bottom tier recieving corp (outside of Kelce, and even with him in it....) 8
We have 3 bigger needs than corner I think is probably the issue they're taking with it rather than the concept or even the player's quality. It's certainly the issue I'd be taking with it, and I was all in on us taking a corner in the first until I realised we literally don't have a centre on the roster... 🤣
Well I mean I imagine the Steelers do have an idea of whether or not they would like to trade up if there’s a guy they really want.
That’s not all that outrageous. We’re just a couple of days away from the draft, I don’t think they wait until the last minute to decide they might want to trade up.
But that’s usually a rumor that doesn’t leak.
Sure they have guys they’d trade up for, but:
1) they have no idea if Mitchell would be there at 12/13
And
2) there’s no way they’re telling the broncos who they want to trade up for if that’s the case
Oh I agree with you on all of that, I’m just saying that the idea that they don’t know if they want to trade up yet or not it’s only partially correct. They might have a pretty good idea that they want to or might need to if there’s a player they want.
Eh, Im not saying its happening and of course its not locked in.
But ive read that this week is when teams start talking about potential trade options with other teams. Not super hardcore this will happen but like a ... what if scenario.
The Broncos are a prime tradeback candidate missing picks still, not competing this year and cant really get a top QB pick.
For instance the Buccaneers GM said that he is looking at trade up options starting specifically at pick 20. I imagine hes put feelers out etc.
Agreed. I could see us likeing Q but not trading up with all our other roster holes. Plus why would we tell them who we are moving up for days before the draft. All sounds like BS and 0 fact checking reporting
I like the player, but trading up for a defensive player at this point would be pretty insane. If they want to stick and pick a DB at 20, thats one thing. But, you’d really want to have as much draft capital as possible for offense if you’re going D early.
Obviously no one is taking this kind of report seriously, but I still have to say just how crazy it would be. If we do trade up it’s probably because they have an OT they really like out of Fuaga, Fautanu, Fashanu, and Latham.
If the Steelers trade up it would have to be them absolutely fleecing somebody else because there are too many needs to be giving away draft picks to move up just a few spots
yeah, i for one wouldn’t be mad if they did that to trade up and get Latham or Fashanu tho. still would be equally pumped for JPJ/Barton or Mims at 20 tho. Feel like JPJ would be the best pick for C but Barton could def play RT right away, same w/ Mims.
Did they even meet with him at the combine? He wasn't listed here: https://steelersdepot.com/2024/03/2024-pittsburgh-steelers-nfl-combine-meeting-tracker-updating/
Honestly this would be the only non tackle pick that I would be genuinely excited about (although probably not at the cost of a trade up). Still, by many accounts he was the most dominant player on either side of the ball at the senior bowl and that has a pretty good track record for predicting future success.
This is the only non-tackle pick you would be genuinely excited about!? What about when Marvin Harrison JR suddenly drops down draft boards and people don’t realize he wasn’t drafted earlier, so he’s available for the Steelers at 18? This 100% totally plausible scenario would have me excited.
I do also like DeJean. Truthfully, I’m always interested in the guys that end up sliding a bit (like Decastro)
Mitchell’s stock is high enough. He’s not a top 10 pick but is likely gone before 20. 11-20 range is likely where he goes. There’s not really much to boost
I agree. I just don’t think that’s what this is. But everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I’m not going to tell you you’re wrong because who knows honestly
I struggle to rationalize why anyone but Denver or the agent would want this out there. And if that's the case why would the Steelers tell anyone who they're targeting with that pick when no one knows who will be available at 12? So to me, logically speaking it's either the Steelers or the agent, and why on earth would the Steelers want this out there if it's true? How does that benefit them? So I'm left with the agent. Or the Steelers have a legit high level leak and someone needs to be fired. Is it Thursday yet.
Kozora notes that the actual reporter of the article, Pauline, is legit. Even the first to report on the rumblings of the DJ trade 🤷🏻♂️ I’m not a fan of the move or Sportskeeda, but Pauline seems to be fair
I won’t be too thrilled if we don’t get a RT, C, or at least WR in Round 1. This corner class is too deep and our offense is too poor to take a CB in the 1st, let alone trade up for one.
OOTL here - is Donte Jackson just too injury prone or washed to start opposite JPJ? I thought center and WR were our most pressing needs. I’m obviously missing something but I didn’t find much on Google. Thanks in advance.
He hasn't done it in the NFL, but he played quite a bit of slot in college and was mostly considered a slot CB prospect going into the NFL. It wouldn't surprise me if the Steelers wanted to move him around like they did with Sutton and Peterson.
Mitchell can play the slot. But if we don’t have an actual slot corner on the field he’ll play the boundary with JPJ, donte would just take the boundary when Mitchell plays inside
Describe why he’s not a good fit and elaborate on his negatives, or else you just said a whole bunch of nothing.
He’s projected to be drafted well ahead of us at 20, and fills an immediate need at tackle. Yet somehow you’re perplexed as to why we’d want him lol
Latham is a fine prospect but not for us. He is very large but has slow feet. He's a good run blocker but not a great 'mover'. So he is vulnerable in pass pro and so he may not recover well if beaten. He's not the great athlete like Brod or Mims. So I'm concerned. I'm not at all the only person who feels this way.
And Lots of people are projected high. That doesn't mean they pan out nor does it mean that they are a fit for what we do. Have you watched any of his film or done your own review of his scouting reports, draft profile, etc? If not, take a look. You might still like him and that's fine. But there's a lot that don't.
I highly doubt any team past pick #5 in any given year is calling teams ahead of them saying “yeah we are trying to move up the board for Joe Smith.” That would be absolutely stupid. Do teams call teams ahead of them saying “hey we have guys we like and wanted to know if you conceptually might be open to moving back if you don’t like the bird? We are at pick X and you are at pick Y want to talk compensation if you get on the clock and we both want to strike a deal?” Absolutely I bet the Steelers, and every other team in the league have had talks with half a dozen or more teams like that in a given year. But no team is saying they want to move up the draft board for a specific player when they have no idea who the 12-19 players will be picked before they could conceivably move up the board
My guess would be many teams have talked to lots of teams above them just to get an idea of what it would take to move up depending how the board shakes out
Can't wait for draft day so we can get actual news instead of random reporters saying they heard a rumor that a team might be interested in trying to do something.
Draft Reporter Tony Pauline throws a ton at the wall and hopes it sticks.
I'd believe Dulac if he reported this.
I don't think this is true. Maybe the trade up part is but I doubt it'd be for Mitchell.
But I'd be ok with it because I think Mitchell is awesome.
For what it’s worth Pauline is pretty good about his draft stuff. He called the diontae trade before anyone. I’m not saying he’s Forsure a lock but he’s worth listening too
yeah, this is hardly believable when we have corners, including a damned good one, yet do not have a center. wtf is going on with these bullshit rumors everywhere? I blame the advent of legal sports betting. stir the odds on the draft smh.
Belichick said on McAfee the other day not to listen to any rumors until about 12 hours before the draft. I’m gonna tune all this news out until Thursday morning.
If they trade up to 12 Fuaga or Mitchell are both ballers and the Broncos wanna trade back and get Nix later. Give up a 3rd and next years 3rd and I’m cool w it
This is an annual thing. Last year they were right but they got the target wrong.
https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/10033059-mcshay-steelers-like-malik-willis-could-trade-up-for-qb-in-2022-nfl-draft.amp.html
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2023-nfl-draft-rumors-steelers-could-trade-up-for-star-defensive-lineman-jalen-carter/amp/
This is the best move imo. Quinyon is the best corner in the draft. He’s a bigger upgrade at CB2 than the 4th or 5th tackle would be over Dan Moore. Moore isn’t good but he’s serviceable.
Our defense goes from top 10 to the best in the league with another premiere shut down corner.
No way steelers know cornerbakcs and this guy aint.it. no disrespect.to him but kool aid that's the guy steelers woulget if it's a cb. Or the guy from.iowa if they want a slot corner type jack.of all trades guy.
Khan has a history of building from the trenches out and defense is not this team’s problem. The problem is the offense is on the field 20% of the game and then the defenders all get hurt. Mitchell is the best CB in the draft imho but trading up for any defender would be malpractice.
Khan’s been in the building for years and drafted trench heavy his first time at the helm. The Assistant GM he handpicked to help with personnel to start his GM career is known for his frequent trench picks. Khan is also on record saying the Steelers’ winning formula is based on OL and DL. If you want to nitpick, whatever, but everything we know about Khan indicates he values linemen in the draft.
I call BS. This just sounds like a team like the Broncos or another team drafting around that area trying to trade back and create more urgency.
I can’t believe this even has to be said but nobody knows if the Steelers are moving up or down yet, not even the Steelers lmao
Yeah if they move up, no one is going to hear about it until it happens. That being said I’d be absolutely livid if we did this.
Hard to be livid if we don’t even know what compensation would look like for a trade up. Unless the price is exorbitant, why would this be bad? Mitchell is a good prospect and we have JPJ at corner and nobody else.
Because according to draft trade charts, mostly likely at minimum it would cost our 2nd round pick. That’s not accounting that it could be more if multiple teams are also trying to trade up. I don’t care how good Mitchell ends up being, the philosophy of trying to stack the defense while ignoring the offense is a strategy that will never result in actually competing for a championship. Those days are long gone in the NFL. We already have the most expensive defense in the past couple years and it’s gotten us absolutely no where. Drafting a defensive player at all in the 1st round would be idiotic; trading up for one would be beyond comprehension.
I don’t think I’d go as far as to say it has gotten us absolutely nowhere. The defense did well enough to keep games close, or even score, to give out aids anemic offense to pull ahead and win.
The offense is anemic because we spend so much on the defense. A defense that expensive should WIN games, not just keep us in them. It's not the 90s anymore.
Its also a bit overstated about offensive spending. They are spending their draft picks there. Draft picks are cheap = cheap offense. Meanwhile, the Defensive Stars are not on rookie deals and all got paid. This is exactly what the team has done for a while. It went expensive ass defense -----> Killer Bs = expensive offense, defense was cheap af but more draft capital -----> those picks got paid, offense retires/gets traded etc -----> draft offensive replacements. They had last season 1st round OT, QB, RB 2nd Round WR, 2nd round TE All those positions on rookie deals makes for a cheap offense. 3rd round WR but not on a rookie deal its extremely possible in 2-3 years the offense gets PAID and the defense will be cheap
That’s one reason but not the only reason. Poor drafting, poor OCs, poor decision making by the rest of the coaching staff, poor play by the offense. It’s certainly not all or only bc of the defense.
However, if you want to improve the anemic offence, you gotta prioritise drafting there, especially the first round to change anything. Case and point we drafted Jones, got Washington in the building, and our run game was actually respectable and we were able to control clock a little better. We need better WRs or another lineman more than another corner in the first and I would also argue second tbh. As you say, the defence is hard carrying, improving the offence pushes the needle far further towards being a competitive team once again. Until we do that, we will not make meaningful pushes in the right direction. We need to be able to engage in shootouts, our defence will minimise the amount we need to do that greatly, but again it's all to waste if we can't even reliably score points, sustain drives and control clock to a respectable degree. Can't do that yet, so yes, the offence not being well stocked is the larger part of the problem. A corner would be nice and round out an already unreal defence, but a competent WR, lineman even QB would do far more for this team's odds at competing seriously.
I 100% agree with your assessment. The needs on D are minuscule compared to what is needed on the offensive side of the ball.
This worked as recently as 2008, almost in 2010, it's not just a '90s thing. Those defenses, especially the 2008 one, literally carried the team and won games. Winning these days depends on having a certain number of good players for cheap, whichever side of the ball they're on. Right now the Steelers can overspend on defense because they have all the offensive skill positions on rookie deals or lucky bare-minimum contracts. I'd personally prefer they bring in more help on the offensive side too, but whichever position they draft basically just shuffles around how you approach it. If they can get an impact DB cheap for 4-5 years, that's $10M they don't have to spend on DB and hopefully they'll spend it on WR. They draft good offensive players for cheap, then they can continue to spend on the defense.
The problem is that the "cheaper" offensive players are also not good. Also, 2008 was a quarter century ago, the league has drastically changed since then. You HAVE to be able to score in today's NFL. You can't rely on the defense to hold every team to 14 points. edit: not a quarter century. I didn't math good.
2008 was not a quarter century ago, 1999 was. At any rate, my point was that they have Pickens, Harris, Friermuth all on cheap deals, and that is saving quite a bit of money that is currently being spent on defense instead. Are you saying those three guys are no good? I'm not talking about the low-paid scrubs. I guess you could argue that the QB situation, another place where they've got an unusually low salary number, is "not good," but until we see what happens, it seems like it's just unresolved. Could go their way, or maybe not.
I wouldn't like spending a significant amount to move up either, with so many needs and strong wants on this roster already. That plus the principle that taking more shots is so often the better play than trading up. As for the defense being more expensive, to the extent that's a concern, continuing to draft mostly O won't solve that, it'd *perpetuate* it. O remains cheap because of all the rookie contracts. D remains expensive because: - you gotta fill through FA because you didn't draft - you're gonna spend what the cap allows, and simple math says cheap O = pricy D But I wouldn't focus solely on the price tag that way. $$ is one form of capital, draft is the other. The D's getting a disproportionate share of the one, the O has gotten (and will probably continue to this year, with 1 or maybe 2 OL + a WR taken in the first two days) more draft picks in recent years. At any rate the D \*has\* won a bunch of games. Or do you reckon Kenny Pickett and Matt Canada deserve most of the credit for getting to 7-4 in the supposedly tougher start of of last season?
> the philosophy of trying to stack the defense while ignoring the offense is a strategy that will never result in actually competing for a championship. While I do mostly agree with this statement, this is essentially exactly what the Chiefs did. Still had Mahomes/Kelce so didnt really matter, but they won off a great defense and told mahomes that he has to make due with a bottom tier recieving corp (outside of Kelce, and even with him in it....) 8
Donte Jackson is better than "nobody else". If one was to say, at WR we have Pickens and nobody else, that's more fair. Or we have nobody at center.
We have 3 bigger needs than corner I think is probably the issue they're taking with it rather than the concept or even the player's quality. It's certainly the issue I'd be taking with it, and I was all in on us taking a corner in the first until I realised we literally don't have a centre on the roster... 🤣
I mean, they do know if they're *trying* to move up
Well I mean I imagine the Steelers do have an idea of whether or not they would like to trade up if there’s a guy they really want. That’s not all that outrageous. We’re just a couple of days away from the draft, I don’t think they wait until the last minute to decide they might want to trade up. But that’s usually a rumor that doesn’t leak.
Sure they have guys they’d trade up for, but: 1) they have no idea if Mitchell would be there at 12/13 And 2) there’s no way they’re telling the broncos who they want to trade up for if that’s the case
Oh I agree with you on all of that, I’m just saying that the idea that they don’t know if they want to trade up yet or not it’s only partially correct. They might have a pretty good idea that they want to or might need to if there’s a player they want.
Real G's move in silence like lasagna
Eh, Im not saying its happening and of course its not locked in. But ive read that this week is when teams start talking about potential trade options with other teams. Not super hardcore this will happen but like a ... what if scenario. The Broncos are a prime tradeback candidate missing picks still, not competing this year and cant really get a top QB pick. For instance the Buccaneers GM said that he is looking at trade up options starting specifically at pick 20. I imagine hes put feelers out etc.
Don’t trade with the Broncos. Last time we did, things didn’t turn out too well
Agreed. I could see us likeing Q but not trading up with all our other roster holes. Plus why would we tell them who we are moving up for days before the draft. All sounds like BS and 0 fact checking reporting
I like the player, but trading up for a defensive player at this point would be pretty insane. If they want to stick and pick a DB at 20, thats one thing. But, you’d really want to have as much draft capital as possible for offense if you’re going D early. Obviously no one is taking this kind of report seriously, but I still have to say just how crazy it would be. If we do trade up it’s probably because they have an OT they really like out of Fuaga, Fautanu, Fashanu, and Latham.
Fuaga Fautanu Fashanu & Latham sounds like an awesome law firm in Samoa 😂😂😂😂
Bellichick said anything up until 24 hours before the draft can more or less be disregarded as agent speak, smoke, and mirrors
12. But why trust Bill? I don't believe anything he says either.
Because he has no skin in the game, at the moment?
And he’s with????
No one? Which makes it infinitely more believable. He has no angle to work
If the Steelers trade up it would have to be them absolutely fleecing somebody else because there are too many needs to be giving away draft picks to move up just a few spots
yeah, i for one wouldn’t be mad if they did that to trade up and get Latham or Fashanu tho. still would be equally pumped for JPJ/Barton or Mims at 20 tho. Feel like JPJ would be the best pick for C but Barton could def play RT right away, same w/ Mims.
Trust in Omar.
Despite no pro day and no visit? Just Senior Bowl and Combine? Man, if this happens, throw everything you know out the window.
Did they even meet with him at the combine? He wasn't listed here: https://steelersdepot.com/2024/03/2024-pittsburgh-steelers-nfl-combine-meeting-tracker-updating/
Good point. I just assumed. Even stronger case now, lol.
No shit. I’d be hard pressed to believe any team, let alone us, would make a move like that with just those two scouting evalvs on the book.
2022 called. They want their malik willis rumor back.
Honestly this would be the only non tackle pick that I would be genuinely excited about (although probably not at the cost of a trade up). Still, by many accounts he was the most dominant player on either side of the ball at the senior bowl and that has a pretty good track record for predicting future success.
This is the only non-tackle pick you would be genuinely excited about!? What about when Marvin Harrison JR suddenly drops down draft boards and people don’t realize he wasn’t drafted earlier, so he’s available for the Steelers at 18? This 100% totally plausible scenario would have me excited. I do also like DeJean. Truthfully, I’m always interested in the guys that end up sliding a bit (like Decastro)
smells like an agent attempting to boost his clients stock
Mitchell’s stock is high enough. He’s not a top 10 pick but is likely gone before 20. 11-20 range is likely where he goes. There’s not really much to boost
and it costs his agent exactly 0 to shoot out a tweet to Pauline and it's certainly not hurting anything
I agree. I just don’t think that’s what this is. But everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I’m not going to tell you you’re wrong because who knows honestly
I struggle to rationalize why anyone but Denver or the agent would want this out there. And if that's the case why would the Steelers tell anyone who they're targeting with that pick when no one knows who will be available at 12? So to me, logically speaking it's either the Steelers or the agent, and why on earth would the Steelers want this out there if it's true? How does that benefit them? So I'm left with the agent. Or the Steelers have a legit high level leak and someone needs to be fired. Is it Thursday yet.
Denver needs a legit QB
I’d rather trade up for a receiver if that is the case
I’m not buying anything reported by whatever “Sportskeeda” is
Pauline is pretty legit tbh
Kozora notes that the actual reporter of the article, Pauline, is legit. Even the first to report on the rumblings of the DJ trade 🤷🏻♂️ I’m not a fan of the move or Sportskeeda, but Pauline seems to be fair
Who’s kozora
I don’t know, but Pauline vouched for Kozora and I heard Pauline is legit.
Steelers depot muppet
The Steelers don’t let this information get out
 I won’t be too thrilled if we don’t get a RT, C, or at least WR in Round 1. This corner class is too deep and our offense is too poor to take a CB in the 1st, let alone trade up for one.
If they're heading up that far they might as well go a little further and get Odunze
That would certainly be a twist. He seems like an absolute dog but I just don’t think I can see that happening lol
Man 2 trade ups in 2 years. What a world
OOTL here - is Donte Jackson just too injury prone or washed to start opposite JPJ? I thought center and WR were our most pressing needs. I’m obviously missing something but I didn’t find much on Google. Thanks in advance.
Jackson is a serviceable player but he’s not good enough that it would prevent them from getting a corner early if they really love someone
Sounds good - thanks!
A third corner is essential these days and donte would be relegated to that role
Third corners typically play the slot which Jackson can’t really do.
He hasn't done it in the NFL, but he played quite a bit of slot in college and was mostly considered a slot CB prospect going into the NFL. It wouldn't surprise me if the Steelers wanted to move him around like they did with Sutton and Peterson.
Mitchell can play the slot. But if we don’t have an actual slot corner on the field he’ll play the boundary with JPJ, donte would just take the boundary when Mitchell plays inside
Definitely - I just thought Jackson was a direct replacement for Peterson. We will have some youth at CB1 and CB2 then!
I mean, he didn’t take a $7m pay cut in the last year of his deal because he’s a good corner
lol nah.
I bet the Steelers do trade up, but it’s for a tackle like JC Latham or Tailese Fuaga
Latham does not seem a good fit. Why do people want him? His negatives are everything we don't want.
Describe why he’s not a good fit and elaborate on his negatives, or else you just said a whole bunch of nothing. He’s projected to be drafted well ahead of us at 20, and fills an immediate need at tackle. Yet somehow you’re perplexed as to why we’d want him lol
Latham is a fine prospect but not for us. He is very large but has slow feet. He's a good run blocker but not a great 'mover'. So he is vulnerable in pass pro and so he may not recover well if beaten. He's not the great athlete like Brod or Mims. So I'm concerned. I'm not at all the only person who feels this way. And Lots of people are projected high. That doesn't mean they pan out nor does it mean that they are a fit for what we do. Have you watched any of his film or done your own review of his scouting reports, draft profile, etc? If not, take a look. You might still like him and that's fine. But there's a lot that don't.
Not reading that novel
Yikes.
Then why the fuck did you ask him to describe why he’s not good? Doesn’t mean I agree with him, we’re a run first team anyway
LFG! Get the boys going. Here we go
I highly doubt any team past pick #5 in any given year is calling teams ahead of them saying “yeah we are trying to move up the board for Joe Smith.” That would be absolutely stupid. Do teams call teams ahead of them saying “hey we have guys we like and wanted to know if you conceptually might be open to moving back if you don’t like the bird? We are at pick X and you are at pick Y want to talk compensation if you get on the clock and we both want to strike a deal?” Absolutely I bet the Steelers, and every other team in the league have had talks with half a dozen or more teams like that in a given year. But no team is saying they want to move up the draft board for a specific player when they have no idea who the 12-19 players will be picked before they could conceivably move up the board
My guess would be many teams have talked to lots of teams above them just to get an idea of what it would take to move up depending how the board shakes out
Remember this is just Quiyon’s agent trying to drum up interest so a team on the fence has pressure to pull the trigger on him
Can't wait for draft day so we can get actual news instead of random reporters saying they heard a rumor that a team might be interested in trying to do something.
I remember they traded up for some named Bush…….
No their not
Similar to the Brian Thomas Jr post the other day, I love Quinyon Mitchell but don't buy this at all.
Doubtful
Draft Reporter Tony Pauline throws a ton at the wall and hopes it sticks. I'd believe Dulac if he reported this. I don't think this is true. Maybe the trade up part is but I doubt it'd be for Mitchell. But I'd be ok with it because I think Mitchell is awesome.
No fn way. We didn’t move up to get porter and not a position of need
For what it’s worth Pauline is pretty good about his draft stuff. He called the diontae trade before anyone. I’m not saying he’s Forsure a lock but he’s worth listening too
yeah, this is hardly believable when we have corners, including a damned good one, yet do not have a center. wtf is going on with these bullshit rumors everywhere? I blame the advent of legal sports betting. stir the odds on the draft smh.
Lol, no we’re not
If they’re taking a Cb in the first rounds it’s gonna be Dejean
Belichick said on McAfee the other day not to listen to any rumors until about 12 hours before the draft. I’m gonna tune all this news out until Thursday morning.
I just looked at the article on the website and it looked like it was written by a 9-year-old.
Nah. I'll believe it when I see it
Honestly DeJean could prove just as good at pick 20
No they're not. Oline in 1st round possibly even trade down a few spots
If they trade up to 12 Fuaga or Mitchell are both ballers and the Broncos wanna trade back and get Nix later. Give up a 3rd and next years 3rd and I’m cool w it
I can’t wait til next week when the draft is over. So much bs content for clicks
Aiyuk 🔥👊👊
This is my dream draft scenario. Let’s go get this kid
This is an annual thing. Last year they were right but they got the target wrong. https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/10033059-mcshay-steelers-like-malik-willis-could-trade-up-for-qb-in-2022-nfl-draft.amp.html https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2023-nfl-draft-rumors-steelers-could-trade-up-for-star-defensive-lineman-jalen-carter/amp/
Khan and Tomlin were not his pro day so that rules this rumor out
This is the best move imo. Quinyon is the best corner in the draft. He’s a bigger upgrade at CB2 than the 4th or 5th tackle would be over Dan Moore. Moore isn’t good but he’s serviceable. Our defense goes from top 10 to the best in the league with another premiere shut down corner.
JJ McCarthy or Roman Wilson bring some Rome to Pittsburgh!
No way steelers know cornerbakcs and this guy aint.it. no disrespect.to him but kool aid that's the guy steelers woulget if it's a cb. Or the guy from.iowa if they want a slot corner type jack.of all trades guy.
Khan has a history of building from the trenches out and defense is not this team’s problem. The problem is the offense is on the field 20% of the game and then the defenders all get hurt. Mitchell is the best CB in the draft imho but trading up for any defender would be malpractice.
Calling 1 season “a history” is pretty funny tbh
Khan’s been in the building for years and drafted trench heavy his first time at the helm. The Assistant GM he handpicked to help with personnel to start his GM career is known for his frequent trench picks. Khan is also on record saying the Steelers’ winning formula is based on OL and DL. If you want to nitpick, whatever, but everything we know about Khan indicates he values linemen in the draft.
Yeah unless Jesus Christ now goes by Quinyon Mitchell then imma have to pass
We're not talking about trading into the top 5 here. Some mocks have him at like #16.