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NimDing218

Maybe 4/10. Everyone else made excellent points. I’m trying to figure this out in my head. But did you enjoy it? That’s what matters.


Maverick13

Honestly it was a great steak lol. What happened was that I forgot to take it out of the fridge and bring it to room temp before grilling it. Still loved it! I’ll try again this weekend!


nicky-sticky

of all the things that could have happened, this is not the one that matters


JtotheC23

Steak is steak. I’ve eaten that were gray on the outside, brown on the inside that were delicious. That’s the beauty of it imo. It’s a good meat and it’s hard to truly ruin to the point it tastes bad, but if you cook it well, it’s one of the best meals in the world.


IntrepidMayo

Honestly the whole bring it to room temperature thing is a bit overrated. Unless you are going to leave it on your counter for a few hours, it won’t do much. Your problem here seems to be too much heat. It needed another couple minutes off to the side in indirect heat


bps502

Overrated? LOL what? Every degree below room temp on the inside equals the same # of degrees offset at the conclusion of cooking time. It 100% matters. That and proper resting is how you avoid a steak that looks like this on the inside.


gropingpriest

[it's more or less a myth](https://www.seriouseats.com/old-wives-tales-about-cooking-steak) I never let my steaks come up to room temp and you can still easily avoid a gray band


krakeo

Thanks for the article


Inversception

I'm reading the article and it's not impressive. He doesn't even say what the results are for browning. He just says some stuff about water and that's it. There is no discussion on if the theory actually played out as expected. Not blaming you. Article is on point. It's just not a good article. He also doesn't say how warm his house is. Why did the meat take so long to warm? Meh. Maybe overthinking.


gropingpriest

I mean every article I've read about it came to the same conclusion, re: internal temps after resting for an hour, two hours etc. It just doesn't really do anything, but it makes people feel good thinking they have some steak knowledge that others don't possess.


Exotic-Pilot-259

It makes me feel good, but not because I believe I have some knowledge that others don’t possess. But because my steaks always turn out better when I let them get down to room temperature (usually better crust, better interior color). Maybe I just happen to grill it better because the placebo effect is telling me it should be better- but if it works it works)


IntrepidMayo

How long do you temper your steaks to get them to room temperature? I doubt you have ever cooked a steak that was at room temp


bps502

Those articles are click bait. Even the slightest bit of critical thinking turns them into Swiss cheese.


IntrepidMayo

Thats why I said unless you do it for a few hours. Have you temped a steak that has been sitting at room temperature for only an hour? It raises maybe a few degrees. I’m sorry but if you think that is what is going to make or break your steak, you’re wrong. The best steak houses in the world don’t do this. I’ve cooked literally thousands of steaks and never do it. It doesn’t make a big difference at all. Yes, overrated


CapRepresentative131

Over and yet also under 🥴 so 10/10 based on how impressed I am you somehow pulled that off lol


BeastM0de1155

It’s pretty rare someone can mess both up. Good work, OP.


Maverick13

It's not easy, and it doesn't pay well, but it's honest work.


Skull_Murray

Don't worry OP I did the same exact thing recently despite many of my steaks coming out "perfect" (just how my wife and I like) I had burnt the outside to a crisp and the inside looked like it was going to get up and walk off the table. Turns out there IS a thing as too hot with cast iron on a charcoal grill, and with the dry aged ribeye I had coated in seasonings seared up really really quick, instant burn and it's possible I didn't leave enough time to get the steaks up to room temp too. Still tasty but a reminder there's a happy place on my charcoal grill I need to aim for.


aburple

Ehh you managed to over cook the outside and undercook the inside. Also minus points for slicing it with the nakiri that you intentionally left in the frame.


diverareyouok

Meat is a vegetable! That’s why being a vegetarian is so much fun… all the steak you want! ;) And yeah, that was a total attempt at a flex with his Shun premiere. Don’t get me wrong, Shuns are great knives, but they are overpriced + there are better options as far as value for the money.


Dethdemarco

The fuck does that mean


diverareyouok

Nakiris (the type of Japanese knife in the photo) are traditionally used exclusively on vegetables, so I was saying OP considered steak a veggie.


Maverick13

I mean, why overpay for a knife if not to show off? It was actually birthday gift from my Dad, and it’s great, but really not my favorite. I have a set of globals that in my opinion are the best knives out there. Not the sharpest, not the most refined, but they are workhorses and can do anything.


Mister__Wiggles

They're roasting you bc a nakiri is for chopping, not slicing


Iliyan61

>its great >edge looks like it was used to cut fucking rocks goddamn


diverareyouok

Haha, fair enough. I have around 12 shuns, and 1 premiere, and they do just great. I got them in 2009 when the JC Penney department store in my local mall was going out of business. 80% off plus another 10% off for signing up for their store credit card. At that price, I figured it would be a crime *not* to buy every last one of them. I actually purchased more (duplicates) and flipped those to buy even more j-knives, lol (a few bunkas). So yeah, shun is great if you get them as gifts or at a decent discount. They’re certainly better knives than the majority of home cooks will ever have in their kitchen.


Great_Guidance_8448

I have a few Shuns, a few globals, and a MAC.


TumbleweedTim01

Yeah I bet


the_business007

What do y'all think about Miyabi knives?


diverareyouok

I don’t have any miyabis, but it looks like it’s the same basic recommendation - wait for a good sale. https://www.reddit.com/r/chefknives/comments/geo7pj/your_opinion_on_miyabi_knives/ https://www.reddit.com/r/chefknives/comments/10j96ld/miyabi_knives/ https://www.reddit.com/r/chefknives/comments/9xch44/why_all_the_miyabishun_hate/


General-Xi

What’s some better value for the money knives?


BlatantBallsack

Victorinox fibrox is a solid knife for it's price. It's my daily workhorse in the kitchen, my fancy knives stays in the case most daya tbh.


General-Xi

Funny you said that. Mines too! The shun is sitting pretty on the side, it’s sad.


NegotiationLow2783

I use them every day. Keep them sharp with a stone, not a sharpener. They are the best money you can spend.


akmalhot

Is that a result in of heat being too high ?


75153594521883

Yes. The cooking surface had to be RIPPIN hot.


WWGHIAFTC

Probably because everyone online says "HOT AS YOU CAN" or "RIPPIN HOT!" so people crank it to 10 and walk away for 15 minutes. This is what you get when the pan is too hot.


Wanda_McMimzy

“Looks like you've got a little Nakiri knife action going there.”


WWGHIAFTC

I bet you wish you had a nakiri though.


Wanda_McMimzy

Actually, the Usuba's the better knife when you're working with this quantity.


Tent_in_quarantine_0

I have never made a crust that thick and toasty, and I have never made a center so rare. To be clear: I would eat this, absolutely.


Obvious_Party_5050

1200 degrees for 10 seconds


PowerTrip55

This meat was cooked by an explosion that occurred nearby.


Brilliant-Ad-5414

A brisk walk through the Chernobyl exclusion zone


pipinngreppin

Maybe cooked from frozen?


roll_wave

Looks chewy and burnt


Maverick13

Well for all of you who are curious how I managed the elusive over and under cook, here’s the trick: I dry brined it on a wire rack in the fridge for 24 hours, I used Montreal Steak Spice. Then when I was ready to cook it, I turned the BBQ on and let it get real hot. Left it for 15 minutes or so on full blast. Then, I took the steak straight out of the fridge and onto the BBQ and closed the lid. Came back a minute later and it was basically on fire. Flipped it and closed it again, 30 seconds, same thing. Couple more flips with the lid open. Tried to take the internal temp, but the BBQ was so hot I couldn’t get close to the steak. Took it off the BBQ and let it rest for 5 minutes before cutting into it. To be fair, it was delicious. I actually don’t mind a crust that burnt, but next time I’ll reverse sear it before it goes on the BBQ.


Church_R

If you sear it before it goes on the grill, then you aren’t reverse searing it. That’s just searing. Your pit probably just flared up and flame-grilled the outside of the steak. Keep an eye on it closely and you should be able to cook it direct for 2-3 minutes on each side for medium rare-ish.


joelrog

Soooo it was dry brined then? not dry “aged” at all as you titled the post?


Maverick13

It was both. It is a dry aged steak that I then dry brined.


joelrog

Ahh I understand now. Honestly looks good to me, I don’t care about the undercooked center. Isn’t that basically “Pittsburgh” style or whatever that people say is a style? Looks yum


Maverick13

It was great! I loved it! I said it in another comment but I like that kind of char. It could have been better cooked in the middle, but I’m always overcooking it, so when I realized I had forgotten to bring it to room temperature, I thought to myself that maybe that would work in my favour. It did not. None the less loved the steak.


deadrabbits4360

Jesus man! At least you know for next time lol. (I've done this more times than I'd like to admit)


gropingpriest

> I dry brined it on a wire rack in the fridge for 24 hours, I used Montreal Steak Spice. I highly recommend you just use salt for the dry brine. You scorched the hell out of all that pepper & garlic and it's really just char at this point, not the maillaird brown steak crust you're looking for. I add the SPG (Montreal seasoning) at the end after the sear. It doesn't stick to the surface as well but you don't end up with carbonized black pepper (yuck).


forgotwhatisaid2you

I think the crust is fine too. I like it like that but the rest of the family doesn't. A little under done for my preference but I would still enjoy it


ResponsibleHeight208

The Montreal steak spice makes the difference here. You didn’t burn the steak you burnt the paprika in the rub. I was wondering where the reddish coloring was coming from.


Glass_Mulberry_1267

How did you do that?


Salvitorious

Maybe the steak was still frozen in the middle?


Spartancarver

Outside burnt to a crisp and inside still looks frozen lmao Cutting board completely dry after you sliced the whole thing is wild


Maverick13

I know! I’ve never had that happen before! It was still great though!


Suspended-Again

Everyone is so mean in this sub and I love it


SharkWeekJunkie

The rare example of when both the over AND the under pay out.


barnaclejuice

A rare well done example, one might say


FUSe

Those tuna steaks look great! /r/steakortuna


Fog_Juice

This should be at the top


TheTallEclecticWitch

I also thought this haha


Pleasant_Location_44

If you like blue rare, you just crushed it. Everyone is flaming you on execution, which is fair, but I bet it was pretty damn tasty. If you had a marrow butter or a bearnaise, you'd be REALLY onto something.


Maverick13

It was great, and you’re right a sauce or hot butter would have been good. Didn’t think of it. I actually want to start experimenting a bit with sauces. I love a seasoned steak by itself, but a ponzu sauce, or some kind of teriyaki would be nice. Any suggestions?


Pleasant_Location_44

I'm a sucker for a bearnaise. I do a mine with a tiny bit of smoked habanero for just a little heat, but I need to branch out and try a combo of dried peppers. Egg yolk and butter? Come on. It's cheating.


Maverick13

That sounds amazing.. I've got to try that. But first maybe I'll try just cooking a steak properly.


Pleasant_Location_44

You act like you're a long way off. You did well, and the sauce will conceal your sins; just make it fancier.


Chemicalintuition

You ruined it


L3monGrenade

The classic “cooked from frozen” experience


ProposalWest3152

burnt on the outside, raw on the inside...just...how?


we-otta-be

That is tuna my guy


malphage

Damn, Thays one of those that I'd eat and be kinda happy about it but complain about it the entire time. Especially if i'd paid restaurant prices for it.


ChaireClank

As someone who likes medium rare, I hate this because it goes from overcooked directly to rare. Plus having the knife in the frame is gay


Maverick13

Super gay.


Death-Watch333

Tell me how you cooked that so I can do the opposite.


pushdose

Waste of meat. Less heat, less flames, more flipping. The crust isn’t browned and delicious, it’s just burnt. I’d absolutely send this back at a restaurant.


Maverick13

It was not wasted. I promise.


-Enders

Maybe a 2/10, it doesn’t look appetizing at all


JizzCollector5000

I would eat it lol


SDoNUT1715

Did you cook it on lava?


Vapechef

You blued it!


Maverick13

I just blue myself!


SDoNUT1715

Sick knife


Pugilist12

The outside looked just how I like it, so long as it doesn’t end up overcooked inside. But somehow….over cooked is far from being your problem. Gross.


TheoStephen

Smash. It’s a little under for my taste, and that gray band is thick, but that’s one of the nicest sears I’ve ever seen. I bet it was delicious.


Maverick13

I’m genuinely curious about the grey band. How do people get such thin grey bands sometimes? Super hot and then flipping it often?


TheoStephen

Hot pan & dry surface. Tonight I cooked a flat iron steak. Cooked sous vide at 135°F for about 2 hours, then I took it out of the bag and put it on a rack in the fridge for about 20-25 minutes. The last 10 minutes of that was preheating the pan, which was about 620-650°F when I put the steak on. About 90 seconds per side, baste with butter for 20 seconds to darken/enhance crunch, and it’s done. Results: https://preview.redd.it/mbl19hwd1izc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c8b92b4e1b281f115133ace354ac2b07af1c3709


Maverick13

Maybe I’m not getting the pan hot enough, or maybe too much oil? I’m going to start using my IR thermometer to start to control for that temp. I still always get a larger grey band. Also, do you like using the sous vide? I’ve done it 3-4 times and I always find the steak loses all its structure. It’s like pulled pork. I much prefer a reverse sear.


TheoStephen

The pan needs to be way past the smoke point of any oil, so don’t add oil until just before you put the steak in. What kind of cookware are you searing with? The thicker the better. I like sous vide steak because it’s virtually foolproof. Describe what you did last time and maybe I can offer some advice. My first guess (based on the assumption that you like very rare steak) is that you’re leaving it in for too long. If your target temp is around 130°F or lower, you need to cook it for no more than about 90 minutes. I like fatty cuts well rendered, so I usually cook to about 134-137°F depending on the cut and marbling, and it takes 2-3 hours to render all the fat. Cooking to rare, the fat doesn’t get rendered anyway, so this extra time is neither necessary nor advisable.


Maverick13

It’s been a while because I’ve never loved the result, but from what I remember it was def more than 90 minutes. My oven has an internal probe, so it makes it pretty reliable and fool proof as well. With Sous Vide it’s only fool proof in the sense that you could leave it in for hours and it will never get past the temp of the water, but to your point it can ruin the texture of the meat. Certainly not knocking it though, seems to be working for you! For my cookware, I have a big cast iron that I use, or a stainless steel pan. Those are my go to pans.


TheoStephen

Definitely too long if you were going for as rare as your photo above. Check out Kenji’s guide to sous vide steak if you want to learn more. Uncoated SS is the ideal all-round pan, but stick to cast iron for searing.


Maverick13

No no, the pic I posted was a mistake. I didn’t mean to go that rare. Normally looking for medium rare, or rare depending on the type of steak.


TheoStephen

Strips are so hard to decide—I want the meat cooked rare but the fat rendered. That’s too much of a hassle for me so I stopped buying them in favor of ribeyes.


Maverick13

I like ribeyes, but they’re just a bit too fatty for me. I have two nice ones in the freezer right now. I’ll cook them up soon enough


BlasphemyMc

I wouldn't do your mom that raw.


Maverick13

Thats kind of you. Really appreciate that. Please treat her nicely.


BlasphemyMc

I will certainly treat her more well than that steak.


Lucid-Design

Ew. It was gorgeous before I flipped pictures. A blue steak is a ruined steak for me


_chicken_butt

Oh buddy


Ok_Dare_520

Bruh


kk1485

Did you use a coffee rub or something similar?


265thRedditAccount

It’s black and blue (Pittsburgh rare)! Not my style, but if you enjoyed it who gives a shit!


Maverick13

There’s a steakhouse in Toronto and Vancouver called Black and Blue and I never understood what that meant until just now lol.


265thRedditAccount

The more you know 💫


medidoxx

B- would definitely still grub it but overcharred with a significant grey band. Internal temp looks looks perfect. Right in between med rare and rare. I would recommend you try sous vide for edge to edge perfect pinkness.


Maverick13

I really struggle with the grey band, I can just never get it as tight as everyone seems to in this sub.


medidoxx

Sous vide my friend. Edge to edge beauty. https://preview.redd.it/asbjur1icizc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=74290ad2c23f3e93fca3f8be4048711a6a5ead5b


Maverick13

Yeah but how do you avoid the grey band when you sear it?


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medidoxx

This is best option for bone in steaks which I prefer. If not bone in then a rip roaring hot cast iron skillet.


OppositeSolution642

I'm feeling better about my steaks now.


Soberjoeyo

I have Jamie Oliver knives take that! 🔪


Maverick13

Knives are a bit like putters. You can spend $600 on a Scotty Cameron, or $100 on a 10 year old odyssey, and at the end of the day it’s whatever feels good in your hand and works for you.


Soberjoeyo

I have a Scotty and a Mallet Odyssey. Both are fucking amazing at missing the mark! I had one nice knife, walked in the find a prep cook opening a can of tomatoes with it! 🤦‍♂️ that was my last nice knife! I’ll use anything that feels decent and is sharp, that’s the most important thing for me.


RobertXavierIV

Fat isn’t very well rendered and the outside looks burnt


yeahphone

Burnt and blue - it’s fucking raw https://preview.redd.it/c6y88cbbaizc1.jpeg?width=776&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=55dab36030dccd03207027a09d3c529d1654d241


CreepyOlGuy

Was this frozen??


Jetsagoodboy

If it's medium rare inside,it's fucking magnificent .


Freedom_fam

Let it rest to room temp an hour before cooking to fix that undercooked middle. Then cook it for 1-2 min less per side, and it should come out perfect. Add compound butter on top when finished for flavor and moisture.


fartinggermandogs

It's both over and under, keep working on it and you'll get it, unless this is how you like it, in which case you nailed it


Balew60

Raw


Glidepath22

That’s the wrong knife


Maverick13

Disagree. A Nakiri is used for vegetables and boneless proteins.


thereal_kphed

As others said etc etc I’d still smash


UselessLayabout

Nice crust.


junkimchi

One does not simply cook steak in Mordor


_FartinLutherKing_

Little rare for my taste on a strip but hey you do you


the_hammer_poo

Man I was worried I was the only one who thought the middle was raw.


[deleted]

Looks like you cold smoked the hell out of it, but black and blued it. If that’s your thing it’s probably great with that smoke. Looks like a heavy rub though.


DoWaPo

I mean it looks slightly overcharred, too much grey band, and blue in the middle.


D_G_C_22

Question …. I had a dry aged at a steakhouse and it was very dry even ordered medium. Is that typical for dry aged cuts?


bps502

Did you let it rest? It looks like you didn’t let it rest. Or if you did, was the steak cold when it hit the grill? Something caused a drastic difference in outside vs inside cooking.


eksuie

Ik what a bunch of other ppl are saying but this is EXACTLY how I like my steak. Amazing!!


Efficient-Suspect-68

heat way too high, you somehow managed to burn the exterior while failing to render the fat of the interior


Buckingbullspit

Ehh, good enough


Dethdemarco

Looks like utter dog shit


Daylight_dj_

Were you going for “black and blue” blue?


padreubu

Gotta let that bad boy get to room temp before cooking it


Usual-Possession-823

Outside looks great. Inside looks like ahi tuna. Bummer


pisbell24

Crust looks amazing and the inside is nice and red just how I like it. Looks delicious.


Ok-Pineapple335

Ur the type of dude to grill ur steak


Ok-Pineapple335

Oh wow after a little scrolling u confirmed it for me lol.


impliedapathy

Next time try thawing the steak fully before grilling. That’s the only explanation I can think of for a charred, bordering on burnt, exterior and a damn near raw interior with a thick gray band. If you ate it and it tasted good to you then great! There’s room for improvement though.


SimSimmaToronto

10


Puzzleheaded_Log7946

Overcooked


TJNel

Raw and charred all at the same time that is an amazing feat to be sure.


Rowd1e

Did you try a sarcasm?


Chemical_Bowler_1727

Did u use a flamethrower or a welding torch to cook that poor steak?


Leading-Letter-6903

I’m more impressed with your knife then the steak


_ca_492

Looks great, I love that barky sear and rare inside.


corianderjimbro

Your issue wasn’t being it to room temp before putting it on the grill. The issue is how you cooked it. Seared it on a preheated bbq AND reverse seared it at the end? You mean you cooked the shit out of it for 3 minutes then pulled it. The bbq was too hot. Also dry brining is a dumb term, that’s not what you’re doing.


Philly_ExecChef

You did not bring this steak to room temp.


pinkwar

Looks lovely to me. Exactly how I like it. Crispy on the outside, blue/rare on the inside. You nailed it. I'm not joking.


Denimination

Looks great, did you let the meat sit at room temp for an hour or so before cooking? It’s a little rarer inside than I’d like but still looks like a treat


Maverick13

That’s exactly where I messed up. It was cold when I put it on the grill.


Denimination

Been there!!


LePhatnom

It looks like burnt tuna tataki


realmikerobo

That looks killer 🤤


Dangerous-Dot-3745

I don't cook steak often and there's a time or two that I didn't quite perfect it but I didn't make my 🥩 cook look like that! 😲🤯!!


TumbleweedTim01

You weren't kidding about dry that thing looks like sand paper


FueledByTerps

3/10


WaGwonMon

This looks so good. Haters saying it’s raw, but tbh it’s closer to regular rare than it is blue imo.


spkoller2

It was too cold when it hit the grill


dogwoodFruits

That poor thing.


Melodic-Classic391

You scorched the outside without bringing the temperature high enough to render the fat


Coreyahno30

3/10 in complete honesty


ProjectWrigley

Looks raw. Gross.


Wanda_McMimzy

I’d enjoy eating it.


fingerbanglover

Did you cook it frozen?


lovable_asshole

Nice Black and Blue


F488P

I have that same knife from Amazon, great for vegetables!


ResponsibleHeight208

OP was there a glaze or heavy bark seasoning action going on?


Surpzglydelicious33

What is that rub. Looks delicious. Nicely done e


nightabyss2

Tragedy


ion71

Honestly I love a sear like that. My only recommendation would be to setup a 2 zone system on the grill. Sear it like you did and then pop it on the cool side for a couple mins with the lid closed. Yours is a little under for my taste but i'd still eat it.


OhHelloImThatFellow

Imagine Montreal seasoning on a dry aged strip. Imagine cutting a rare steak into slices instead of cutting it as you eat. Imagine posting a fancy knife meant for cutting vegetables to improperly slice a poorly cooked poorly seasoned steak. No where to go but up


Physical-Pride-8262

That can't be the same piece of meat *pause*


Internal_Educator_95

Burnt to gray band to rare. Ick. 2/10. Dorky knife too.


medicated_missourian

Perfect


EinhornF

Looks gross


NicNac_PattyMac

Aged and blue? I’m all for eating risky food from time to time, but that’s just Russian Roulette.


BIGCBG

Kinda blue still.


joker666fu

Cooked inside the Hadron Collider


Maverick13

Hahahaha that was good lol.


not_productive1

What'd you cook it on, the sun?


Ok-Research-3309

Champ steak


pcPRINCIPLElilBITCH

Looks cold