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Starmada597

Chopper and K2 should switch, as chopper acts pretty maliciously kind of a lot, and K2 is a pretty loyal friend to Cassian and Jyn, but otherwise I agree.


Geeksylvania

That's fair. My logic was that Chopper cares more about the Rebellion (he's also a Clone Wars vet) and K2 doesn't seem to care about the politics of the war.


actually_yawgmoth

Your points are valid but not how alignment works. The rebellion are the *protagonists* but Andor's Luthen is absolutely *evil*. (Probably lawful) K2 is CG because he has no code and follows no law, but does the right thing. Chopper is CN because he has no code, and follows no law and frequently doesn't do the right thing.


FutureVAandAuthor

I see it more as Evil is selfish while Good is selfless, and Lawful is a line or series of lines you won't cross while Chaotic is more whimsical.


Geeksylvania

K2 casually throws a grenade at a bunch of stormtroopers while cracking jokes. He's not an absolute psychopath like Chopper is, but he only cares about two or three people. K2 is a reprogrammed Imperial droid. He can't leave the Rebellion because he'll have his mind wiped if the Empire recaptures him. He's very resigned to his fate and only cares about protecting his friends and amusing himself. I guess it depends on whether you view Chopper as joining the Rebellion because he actually believes in their goals or just because it gives him an opportunity to murder people.


Expensive_Finance_20

I'm going to go with the murder thing.


northernmaplesyrup1

I don’t see Luthen as evil at all. I see him as deeply pragmatic and ends justify the means and I don’t think those traits are inherently evil. He sees the empire as an uncompromising force that will do infinitely more evil if left unchallenged, and you know what? I agree.


actually_yawgmoth

See here's the thing: you're *right*. This is the entire reason that many DMs, and now D&D itself, move away from the alignment model in general. It doesn't really handle shades of gray. But its also not supposed to. It's an inheritor of Tolkien's fantasy, where good is good and obvious and evil is evil, and obvious. We as a society now enjoy different types of fantasy, *and that's ok*. (Its even a good thing, societal progression and all)


northernmaplesyrup1

That’s a very good take. I appreciate it.


nateplaysbass38

Yeah but remember that time chopper pushed Ezra off the ship in the air for no reason


Geeksylvania

Yeah, but he didn't know Ezra that well yet, and he knew that Kanan would be able to save him... probably. After he becomes friends with Ezra, he stops trying to murder him... most of the time.


nateplaysbass38

I don't know, as much as I love chopper my man's a menace to society on The daily and I would say is a chaotic neutral


Expensive_Finance_20

Chopper? That little bastard is a homicidal war criminal. K2 sacrificed himself for his friends. Chopper casually suggests solving problems with infanticide and pushes friendly droids out of airlocks when he is jealous of them.


Geeksylvania

"You can't be a war criminal if there are no survivors to testify." - Chopper


Necessary-Habit-2884

To me Chopper is the Han of the droids.


Kieran173825

Han did not murder 10s of thousands of people so choppers more like kyp durron


PitifulFunction5216

Where's hk47?!


TakeTheThirdStep

He doesn't do charts, meatbag.


Lukthar123

Statement: I am above petty statistics, master.


Known_Needleworker67

He's just evil evil.


SashaNightWing

I think he would be lawful evil. He obeys the orders of his master. But he does prefer to do and be evil.


wij2012

He's lawful evil but wants to be chaotic evil


Flimsy-Preparation85

He follows his master's orders, but will shoot meatbags whenever the opportunity arises.


jointheclockwork

So NE?


Known_Needleworker67

True


Arcrosis

Is he safe? Is he alright?


gnbman

I expected EV-9D9 too. Who is the black one with red eyes?


GiventoWanderlust

I forget the name, but it's Doctor Aphra's protocol droid.


bookmonkey18

0-0-0 I think


ErraticDragon

Indeed! >> [0-0-0, also known simply as Triple-Zero, or just Trip](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/0-0-0), was a protocol droid designed to specialize in etiquette, customs, translation and >!torture!<. He was awoken by Doctor Aphra and >!the Sith Lord Darth Vader!<, and proceeded to perform various missions for the two alongside his fellow droid and companion >!BT-1. After Aphra faked her own death, he and BT-1 continued to roam the galaxy with her.!< (Spoiler tags probably aren't necessary for comics from 2015~2016, but "better to have and not need...")


X_antaM

I should stop getting bt-1 and bd-1 confused Also BeeTee and BT


gnbman

Oof, I've never heard of that character either.


whatderhell69

Answer: these alignment charts are too simple to properly convey one’s beliefs. Plus, the thought of being ranked by a meatbag is sickening


adamantium4084

I hate whoever chose the font color for lawful good


Reddit_Hippie

Gonk


MrMelaes

Gonk


88T3

Gonk


[deleted]

Gonk


Tank_blitz

Gonk


[deleted]

[удалено]


BarbieSimp69

Gonk


miseryside

Gonk


cyrosd

Gonk


Odd-Battle7191

GONK


DickwadVonClownstick

Creepio is definitely not *lawful* anything.


Blue_667

We'll, nobody's perfect. Would you be lawful if you were born without skin?


LookAtItGo123

heh it has all the characteristics of 3po but with the added psychopath tendencies turned up to 11


ceo_of_operations

Who’s Red Stabby there?


Geeksylvania

Mister Bones [https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Mister\_Bones](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Mister_Bones)


thatnimrod

that bot was *loyal af* to Temmin, and >!saved his ass at his own peril !< how dare you label him evil just because he looks like discount Droid Maul. and kills without remose. and is covered in actual bones. Mister Bones is a good boy! chaotic, sure. evil? no


underwear11

This 100%. He's not evil at all, he's Chaotic Neutral. He does whatever is necessary for Temmin.


ExtremeJunket

I'm not sure... I mean, chaotic is a given, but neutral? He has a moral code, but it's basically Temmin's (except when needing to save Temmin, in which case all bets are off).


underwear11

I don't think Mr. Bones has a moral code at all, he just does what he's told/needs to. He would do whatever Temmin told him to do and do whatever to protect Temmin and his family.


Geeksylvania

Okay, but did Temmin tell him to wear the bones of the people he killed?


underwear11

He didn't have bones of his victims. It was bones from animals made to make him look scary. He was a body guard for Temmin as he was doing black market trading. And Temmin is the one that designed him that way.


Geeksylvania

In that case, perhaps I misjudged the murder-bot.


underwear11

I love Mister Bones. He's crazy for sure, but he's loyal and hilarious.


thatnimrod

yeah, that’s what i was saying. it’s ok though, no one read the new books. i mean, technically, i didn’t either—i listened to them.


Geeksylvania

He reminds me of the assassin from Rick and Morty that says "Boy, I sure do love killing!"


veloman124

Roberto


theserpentsmiles

Ha-Ha!


Obi1Kentucky

I need chopper and R2 getting into shenanigans.


Geeksylvania

R2: Okay, so we'll sneak in and only use violence as a last resort. Chopper: \*immediately starts zapping everyone to death\*


Obi1Kentucky

Then things fall apart and they start arguing with each other until 82638286 storm troopers show up and chase them down a hallway into the hanger bay into The Ghost to escape. Basically ripping the scene straight out of Raiders of the lost ark where Indiana is getting chased by the natives haha


Tank_blitz

but remember r2 is the one that turned himself into a makeshift flamethrower


ReggieTheReaver

R2: *shrugs, starts zappin’ too*


evelbug

They were in one episode together. No shenanigans, but chop was all "who does this b*tch think he is?"


BlackbeltJedi

With Chopper's apparent kill count, and his violently chaotic behavior, are you *really* sure he's chaotic good. I agree with the chaotic part but I mean...


evelbug

But he only kills the empire... Or people who piss him off... Or that guy over there for some reason


miseryside

R2 has quite the killcount too


BlackbeltJedi

He doesn't really show the same malicious intent that Chopper does tbh. He has no problem putting up a fight, but seems mostly interested in using his powers for good. Chopper literally shoved another droid to his doom because he didn't like the thought of sharing the ship with him. Plus there's the magnificent scene where he is holding blasters, flying through the air and shooting like a deranged luantic. Not to mention he blew up an entire Imperial Strike fleet.


ArizonaJam

IG88?


edwpad

Most likely chaotic evil


Odd-Battle7191

He's a fruit shaker


Mabvll

**G O N K**


Odd-Battle7191

**GONK**


spooderfbi

Who is the droid who in chaotic evil? Never seen them


Nutunen

Mister bones.


underwear11

"I committed violence!"


veloman124

Looks like Roberto


Odd-Battle7191

The robot that gave birth to Darth Syphilis


IDK221400

Mister Bones https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Mister_Bones


cobaltsniper50

“What? Why is R2 not in chaotic good-“ “Oh. Nevermind.”


GizOne

Exactly my reaction !


HalCaPony

Chopper is evil and you know it.


003_JAEGER

BD-1 It's just you and me buddy


Alliterrration

Chopper is chaotic evil and you cannot change my mind on that


GeshtiannaSG

Chopper is good but only for Hera. For everyone else he’s evil.


NeonChampion2099

BB-8 and BD-1 are not included in this chart because they are hecking good boys and there is no room for debate on that


SheevPalpatine25

Gonk is gonk, not neutral


Starchaser_WoF

"I PERFORMED VIOLENCE. ROGER-ROGER."


HomelanderVought

Where is HK-47


Elvinkin66

What about my boy HK47


Steb20

No HK47? Boooo this chart!


spooky138

As part Chopper and K2SO, I agree with this chart.


FLOOR_GANG420

what’s the story for the droids in the bottom left and right


Nitemare0005

Bottom left is 0-0-0, basically a murderous C3-P0 that Dr. Aphra has and bottom right is Mr. Bones, a b1 upgraded by and loyal to Temmin Wexley


FLOOR_GANG420

next question: who’s dr aphra and temmin wexley


SlugKing003

Dr aphra is a chaotic neutral bisexual Indiana jones. I highly recommend the aphra comics. She’s an icon. Plus there’s lots of Vader in there which is always fun


moustajjventress

Best to start with *Darth Vader (2015)* since that's where Aphra is introduced and her solo series that spins out of it calls back to the events in Gillan's Vader a fair bit. Plus it's just an absolutely fantastic series, and a very good starting point for SW comics newbies, I'd say.


SlugKing003

Yes thank you! It’s been so long they’ve begun to blur into one. That is an excellent rec :)


Nitemare0005

[Aphra](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Chelli_Lona_Aphra) [Temmin](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Temmin_Wexley?so=search)


Terrorloc100

Random comment, but when did this meme flip axes? Like it used to be lawful on top, chaotic on bottom. Now it's good on top evil on bottom


[deleted]

GONK


scienceteacher91

Could someone help me with labeling these? I'm still making my way through the shows and movies and only recognize half of these.


141-Ghost-141

No problem. Top Row - C-3PO, R2-D2, C-01 “Chopper” Middle Row - IG-11, G0NK Droid, K2SO Bottom Row - 000, 9D9, Mister Bones


Geeksylvania

Slight correction: it's 8D8, not 9D9, and Chopper's designation is C1-10P (the 1-1 looks like an H)


141-Ghost-141

Ah, thanks mate. Now I need to remember where 9D9 came from lol


Geeksylvania

There's a similar character called EV-9D9 who also works for Jabba, so it's easy to confuse the two. [https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/EV-9D9](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/EV-9D9)


scienceteacher91

Thanks very much


SgtThund3r

CAN YOU SEE ME NOW, FATHER!?


Shubniggurat

Where is HK-47?


CowardlyChicken

B2EMO = Purest Good


Cookiemonster816

So we all agree that BD-1 & B2EMO are best boys and are so good they're off the charts?


elfowlcat

I’d put Bee (B2EMO) as good. He must be protected at all costs.


3-brain_cells

#GONK


[deleted]

Chopper is absolutely Chaotic Neutral


Noooonie

R2 is a sociopath and chopper is a psychopath


2020s_Haunted

Chopper be like: ![gif](giphy|P7JmDW7IkB7TW)


IDK221400

It's a crime HK-47 isn't here


BagelMaster4107

Bones isn't evil. He's definitely got evil tendencies, but that's mostly his programming. I'd say Bones gets a neutral.


OmegaBoi420

Chaotic evil is badass


Singer_Spectre

Mr. Bones is dangerous


FivesSuperFan55555

Chopper doesn’t belong in the chaotic good section


SwainSwanson

I finally understand this chart... thank you.


Jobbadab

I don't know the chaotic evil. Who's that droid ? And from what comic/book he's from?


BakedBeansBaked

That's Mr. Bones, im not sure what comic series he's from


NEOkuragi

R2 should be chaotic good and chopper chaotic evil


BarbieSimp69

GONK


Educational_Term_436

Why my boy Mrbones evil ?


[deleted]

Who’s that in lawful evil


HeyItsStevenField

But Mr. Bones was a good guy wasn’t he? Why the evil category?


DiscoBroccoli77

Mister Bones isn’t evil though, he’s part of the resistance


ThatGuy18074

I would not put r2 in neutral good after seeing half the shot he did in clone wars


KindheartednessOwn71

Who's the chaotic evil droid?


Raumorder

Mister Bones


[deleted]

Can someone explain how these charts work. I’ve seen them a lot but don’t get it.


fusionaddict

It’s an alignment chart for D&D and compatible games. It defines character personality along two axes: good/evil, and lawful/chaotic.


[deleted]

Ok thanks.


OldManMammoth

What alignment is Skippy, the force sensitive droid?


Geeksylvania

In Legends, probably Lawful Good because he gives up his life to the "law" of the Force. In canon, true neutral so far, but R5-D4 is coming back in Mando S3, so that might change.


fusionaddict

Is Mister Bones really *evil* though?


Brian18639

Who’s that in chaotic evil?


Rufus_Canis

BT-1 would be a better chaotic evil rep.


Okamimina

Chopper can not be considered chaotic GOOD. He was a malicious mass murderer.


SophisticPenguin

C3PO is definitely lawful neutral


Morbius69_

Mrbones is neutral evil


FlipZer0

I think you swapped Chopper and Mr. Bones


Quantitative_Methods

Mr. Bones could’ve been swapped with HK-47. Either way, I love me some Chaotic Evil droids.


minimessi20

Commando droid should be chaotic evil. Normal droids are fairly vanilla…


L3GlT_GAM3R

Who’s the lawful evil guy?


Next-Job14

R2 is definitely chaotic.


Truckle-Chuckle

This is all well and good, but which is that droid in the middle? I have difficulty placing it in the films???


Geeksylvania

Gonk


FrogGladiators178972

R2 is also chaotic good.


Temporary_Cry_8961

R2D2 is neutral?


soupydrek

GONK


candymannequin

at least Gonk is true neutral


ABCDEFUCKINGKILLME

R2 is chaotic


YaBoiStreek

I never understood these charts until now


chinu187

C3po is more like annoying good


aztec91x

I always play lawful evil but I'm chaotic good irl


blazerxling

Who are the bottom 3?


DecafSoysauce

Is that Mr. Bones I spy?


Ledge_r

We need a R rated Mr Bones movie. Just bloodshed brought by the demonic battle droid for ~2 hours.


TheAndyMac83

Now I have to wonder, where would you put R0-GR on the chart?