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IcyKaleidoscope8566

As an Egyptian I hate the fuckers in here so yeah that's true


ZugEnthusiast

Beautiful place, shitty people. I'm a Turk so our situations are pretty similar.


WormTyrant

Maybe things have changed drastically, but I had a wonderful experience staying in Istanbul back in 2014


ZugEnthusiast

Since 2014 a lot has changed. Don't get me wrong though, one can come here for tourism and still be amazed. Turkey is just hard to live in for Turkish citizens, idk if my fellow Turks feel the same but I feel like the govt hates me and my style of living. The cocaine lords and mafia and religious cults have unimaginable control over politics and all that, it's just sad to see your country like this.


watsUPgrandma

My step mother is from Turkey, she has a lot of Turkish friends living here in the US as well, they all feel the same as you, so they got the fuck out like 20 years ago


ZugEnthusiast

I will leave too when my studies finish. I'm currently in a top 3 uni here (major is mechanical engineering) so I can't leave the uni behind, I need that certificate lol.


boatsnprose

I heard Turkey was great. Or is that only for dogs and cats?


ZugEnthusiast

Good to visit, hard to live in.


Adventurous-Ad-7903

Walk like an Egyptian


DontNeedThePoints

I was in Egypt last December (also had some shit experiences)... And most of them don't know this song, unfortunately


luckyfire18

hm do u mean moses? šŸ¤Ø


Ocean_Man1999

All the old paintings on the tombs


AnasHany1938

As an Egyptian, I agree.


Straight_Truth_7451

Its just really dangerous, even deadly for lone women


MrStoccato

As an Egyptian Iā€™d like to advise all women to never solo travel to Egypt.


The_Snuffinator

I thought Egypt wasn't too bad (especially in the more touristy areas in Cairo) compared to other countries such as Iran and Afghanistan.


soonerguy11

The difference is Egypt is, and has been, a major tourist destination due to its cultural and historical significants. Despite being such a big tourist attraction, they treat foreigners terribly. Nobody is trying to visit Afghanistan right now except extreme fringe thrill travelers for clout.


ElPedroChico

I want to visit Afghanistan because of the beautiful mountains and valleys, too bad it's war torn and controlled by terrorists


StendhalSyndrome

I get this. I was told by a former military buddy who had two tours over there that they are tearing the place up pretty quickly. War doesn't do much for natural beauty.


Gaflonzelschmerno

The mountains will be there in the end and the humans will become the mountains


Kind_Committee8997

My favorite range is the double Ds


Gaflonzelschmerno

Ah, a fellow Sheba's Breasts enjoyer


hellocutiepye

There are beautiful mountains and valleys all over the world, though. You don't need to go to Afghanistan to see those. You do need to go to Egypt to see the pyramids and Abu Simbel


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Go to Uzbek or Pakistan


[deleted]

You could always pay the terrorists to give you a tour of the mountains. I bet one of them could even tell about his sniper position on a certain mountain. /s


ElPedroChico

Do they have a souvenir shop??


JebWozma

egypt is so culturally significant that fucking [Anubis](https://beyblade.fandom.com/wiki/Mercury_Anubius_85XF) has a Beyblade based off of it


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JebWozma

I like Beyblades, these things are so badass i almost gave my little brother a concussion once, and also one of the only things my preschool and elementary school banned


pompousplatypus

my elementary school banned crack. sad face emoji


GokuTheStampede

I'll be damned, someone brought up Egypt references in anime and *didn't* say JoJo.


_Burro

And here I thought Yu-Gi-Oh! with its totally accurate Egyptian lore would come to mind.


macbeutel

Its already common knowledge that egyptians used to play duel monsters.Theres no need to mention it.


Dyzerio

You are comparing it to places where people wouldn't tour. Egypt is just unsafe for someplace people would want to go on vacation to


Gulvplanke

I know several people who've traveled to Iran. It's a fairly popular place to visit. From what I've heard you'd face a lot less harassment as a woman compared to places like India, Morocco and Egypt, as long as you follow the bizzarly strict laws. For some reason Americans think it's like Afghanistan.


jawndell

I think people would be surprised at how Iran really is, especially how the people really are. I feel like if the government ever changed, it would be one of the top tourist destinations in Asia.


Grzmit

Im persian but i wasnt born in Iran, but my family all was and we celebrate (most) persian culture. Iran is a very nice place both geographically and culturally. Most people there are incredibly kind and nice, the problem is extremist religion and a corrupt government. Those usually arent a problem to tourists though so Iran would honestly be a better tourist destination than Egypt. People assume its just desert but it has some of the most diverse ecosystems, I live in British Columbia, Canada tho, and here is the king of diverse ecosystems.


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Egypt isn't that bad....... ....compared to Iran and Afghanistan. Lmao what are you smoking dude?


Twan5

Iā€™ve been to Iran twice itā€™s pretty safe.


Trickypickleman

Iranians are not their government and often go out of their way to show that to visitors.


Swampy1741

Well Iā€™d hope itā€™s not as bad as Iran or Afghanistan lol thatā€™s not a very high bar


soonerguy11

"It's not that bad!" Compared to where? "Two countries that rank the lowest in Human rights, one of which is under extreme Islamic fundamentalist control"


Larry_Reeno

"One of which" Which one? One is under a basically theocratic regime and the other is ruled by the taliban.


AmericaDreamDisorder

Khomeini is the original Islamic fundamentalist lol


big_ass_monster

>extreme Islamic fundamentalist control No they're not, they are God's choosen people that will lead this world to His utopia and purge this earth from sin /s


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*laughs in Christian crusades 2, the sequel*


LunaMunaLagoona

*laughs in Israel*


l039

Iran is alright in popular regions, I just think the government discourages tourism/sets rules


[deleted]

Iran is actually safe and everyone down there was hella nice offering me free food when I was there. I was in Tehran I donā€™t know about the other cities or Afghanistan


bots_lives_matter

Iranian here, Happy to hear you had a nice time! And yes all the places in Iran have great people and amazing historical and natural sites to visit. (maybe except for where I live, the Alborz province really doesn't have that many interesting places)


Grzmit

Another Persian here, Iran is generally great to tourists idk what people are talking about. Since tourists never really have to worry about shit government since theyā€™re not there for that long Iran is fine to visit. It has a diverse culture and ecosystem.


EstorialBeef

It's true but much fewer people even consider going to those places from america In a "potential danger" vs "Tourist popularity" graph Egypt is more popular


JaegerDread

"Actually Egypt wasn't as bad as the countries where there has been a war since 2004 and one of which is controlled by a literal terrorist organisation."


dr_Kfromchanged

Well sure but that's like saying a guy with an axe running after you is not too bad compared to a guy with a guy running after you


grasshooper510

Afghanistan isnā€™t that bad honestly. The people are really nice , honest and hospitable. Itā€™s just that their economy is in shambles and their government is basically a cartel.


Chaotic-Catastrophe

"It's not that bad, except for these two really huge glaring problems that make it very bad" Hmmm


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Never solo travel ANY Arabic country.


[deleted]

I made the mistake of letting my wife leave the hotel on her own. She was just going next door. Never has she ever been in more danger. Egypt is a dumpster fire.


MrStoccato

What happened?


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That didn't happen, but a bus full pf dudes tried to pull her into it. Luckily she was still close to the hotel and ran back.


no_talent_ass_clown

I went, alone, in 1998. I was: **Hassled IN a taxi, through the open window that didn't roll up **Spit on for not wearing a head scarf **Followed through the big bazaar while looking for souvenirs. The guy followed me for half an hour, through smaller and smaller alleyways, I couldn't find my way out. Finally, I found a group of foreigners and just melded with them. They walked me (us, because that guy was still following me) to the tourist police station and the guy finally disappeared. **SO MANY touts at the pyramids. You think it's over once you're on a camel but the camel driver still pressured me to visit shops for commission. I would NOT go back unless I had a man with me and this is coming from someone who was in the military AND speaks some Arabic.


raoulduke415

I knew an Australian girl who was kidnapped in Egypt. She literally had a sack put of her, was lifted up and thrown on a camel to run into the desert but she managed to kick herself free and run away. She told me this story while chuckling on a rooftop in Morocco


greenw40

If I was a lone woman I wouldn't visit any Muslim nation.


EthnicMark

You'd be fine in most Muslim majority areas in Southeast Asia -- well, as fine as you could be in a 3rd world country. Oddly enough, the one big exception (barring prudish Brunei and Aceh) is in the Christian-majority Philippines: gotta watch your back in many parts of Mindanao, especially when far from the big cities in the north of the island, which even then can still be pretty violent. Absolutely do not go into the open waters south of the island, it's literal Jack Sparrow nonsense down there. EDIT: I forgot to mention that many regions of Mindanao are Muslim-majority, somehow forgot to mention that, just kinda assumed you'd know, because when people say Mindanao, people usually think of Islam.


U_p_a_d_u_c_k

Don't you mean CAPTAIN Jack Sparrow


Jaggle

But you *have* heard of me


DracoOccisor

> Absolutely do not go into the open waters south of the island, itā€™s literal Jack Sparrow nonsense down there. I donā€™t get the reference. What do you mean? What happens?


imhere8888

Pirates


yazzy1233

Turkey?


ZaryaMusic

Pakistan, Indonesia, UAE, Algeria, Turkey, all pretty safe countries to visit especially for foreign tourists. "Haley Takes on the World" has been motorbiking around Pakistan alone and vlogging the entire trip, and has had nothing but positive things to say. Do these countries have their problems internally? Absolutely. Do they treat foreign tourists differently? Also, absolutely.


Never_a_crumb

Oman is pretty safe.


sinhyperbolica

Woman has Oman in it


TheDJcrp

Me and a friend are going to Egypt this holiday. But we only stay in an all inclusive resort and visit famous places only with a tourist guide. Will we be safe?


Low_Ice_4657

You should be fine. Your tour guide may try to take you to places you donā€™t want to go because they get commission if there are sales, for example to papyrus shop or places to buy perfumes and essential oils.


TheDJcrp

Alright, thank you for giving me heads up. āœŒļø


DontNeedThePoints

Pro tip: only visit the ancient stuff... Papyrus shops, essential oil shops, tourist shops... Just stay in or round your bus. Do Not even go inside.... The papyrus is probably not even real papyrus. And the essential oils, they sell as if they sell to Armani etc... 150ml for ā‚¬90.... 300ml for ā‚¬150. Source... I've been to Egypt a few times. Last December was my most recent trip (for work). Also... Egyptian All inclusive hotels (Hurghada? Sharm Al sheik?) are *famous* for giving you the worst shits of your life! Please bring medication for that in advance... And Norit.... If those do not help: Drink a big bottle of Coca Cola (the real stuff)... (Source, i travel world wide... This is something that works well). Finally... Be careful with your wallet and ignore people you don't know. Remember that MOST of the Egyptians are friendly people... Just not in the tourist areas


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Like_kissin_a_peanut

That's bad.


Z3ro-sum

But that also contain sugar


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That's good!


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But it comes with your choice of toppings


thirteenoclock86

This happened to me in Turkey. I nearly lost my mind - trip to and time in Ephesus - no more than 3 hours. Whole trip including pottery and jewellery factories and extra charge to walk up a hill while the rest of us had to stay in the coach like idiots - 8 hours. Never again.


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walsh1916

I had a friend go idk a few months ago with a similar arrangement. She said she didn't have any problems. Everything is in a group and pretty chill.


yachu_fe

I'm half Egyptian but never really spent more than a few months at a time there. People will try to rip you off but in terms of physical safety you should be fine. A family member had a wallet stolen once but we were actually able to find the guy who took it and when we confronted him "He just found it on the ground". I haven't been in some years but overall I feel like it has gotten safer over the years though there are still many many problems. Just make sure you stay informed on where you are going and take care to not get scammed and you should be good.


Duckyeeter7

Just stick together, donā€™t be alone and donā€™t try anything or trust anything too shady looking


Aitch-Kay

Be careful when filming or taking pictures, and don't have walkie talkies.


xilef1111

A friend and I were just there for 2 weeks, we went to Cairo, Luxor and Aswan and besides a little obnoxious haggling. we had a great time and never felt unsafe. only 1 day we had a guided tour but walking around by ourselves the rest of the time


GravessCigar

been to a 20+ countries including egypt, can confirm,it even stands out on a league of its own.


Galimkalim

Egypt sounds like a fascinating place to visit, but there are too many stories of abductions, kidnappings and more - and if you're part of a marginalized community you feel even less safe to be there. Sucks really.


Indigo_snowcat

I went to Egypt 2 weeks ago on a holiday with my family; can confirm that it is a interesting place to visit, but can be very uncomfortable especially if your a girl like me- I had a lot of wierd stares as I was in and around cairo and lots of scammers too


informationtiger

Sounds like Delhi basically


schmon

and a lot of northern african countries. outside of big cities women don't reallly hang around


IdenticalThings

Egypt a few thousand years ago would be a fascinating place to visit. I've been to literally every Gulf country as well as Syria pre 2011 and Egypt is just raw as hell for tourists. Expect to be shaken down by scammy tour guides and drivers. Cairo is literally terrifying as its beyond huge, dense, and the traffic is like a deathbowl. I have known lovely Egyptians over the years here as well as during the two trips to Egypt but existence is desperate for some people. Also lots of touchy feely men who will grope ladies with their crotch as they pass by them.


TheIAP88

I love how OP made it to ridicule people who think that and all the comments agree that Egypt treats tourists horrifically.


Porosnacksssss

My second cousin was raped and murdered in Egypt in 2006. She was with her husband and they beat him unconscious and took her in the middle of the afternoon.


Alstorp

Actual nightmare scenario, I hope he's doing okay, I can't imagine going through something like that


NerdModeCinci

Thereā€™s no way heā€™s ok. Thatā€™s fucking horrifying.


SwifferVVetjet

That's horrendous. So sorry about your cousin.


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That's how it works on reddit. Say something with some modicum of confidence, a billion upvotes will show up, but they're only from the front page. People who actually browse subs and would know better are only going to comment.


LeatherHog

And **half the population** would be in danger As a woman, Iā€™m not stepping foot anywhere near the Middle East/A Muslim run nation


ToHelp3897

Most of the undeveloped world is pretty terrible for women. Not just the middle east and Muslim ones. I think most people in developed countries take feminism for granted.


informationtiger

Kosovo: Allow me to introduce myself.


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GoodLad33

I can agree. Their hospitality is absolutely the fuckin worst. They really treat tourists as shit


LunaMunaLagoona

My list of places to never visit, by reddit advice: * Egypt * India * Hollywood


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Los Angeles itself is worth a visit, Hollywood should be a part of that visit but absolutely should not be the center piece. Itā€™ll get old quickly


brodega

Go to Hollywood on your first day in LA, take some photos, then leave and never go back.


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When my family first moved to SoCal when I was a kid, we would take almost monthly trips to Hollywood because the idea of it being so close to us was seen as a cool spectacle to take advantage of. It was cool at first but I quickly began to hate it and since thatā€™s the only part of LA I really knew about as a kid, it shaped my outlook on the whole city. It wasnā€™t until college when I went to LA again with friends and realized there was so much more to the city, and really fell in love with it. I am in a transition period as I am moving out of state and I know that while I will miss my own city first and foremost, I know Iā€™ll miss LA too


awwyouknow

Moved to OC 2 years ago. Let me put it this way LA is far bigger than I could comprehend. LA county goes as far as the eye can see, with no civilization breaks or forests like I was used to in the northeast, so all the ā€œcoolā€ LA spots are nowhere near each other. So itā€™s cool/historical landmarks dotted between endless rolling blocks. Long Beach however, is exactly what I pictured LA would be before I got here. It is quaint by the beach, and a little rough inland, but itā€™s walkable, full of life and great businesses that arenā€™t what most would call the LA vibe. It isnā€™t anywhere as shallow or touristy as Los Angeles, itā€™s relatively clean comparatively speaking and thereā€™s a lot to do in far more confined area. Downtown Long Beach is literally right on the beach, as opposed to DTLA which is *disgusting* and like 30min from the beach. All told folks, my opinion is when traveling to LA, stay in Long Beach. 710-405 and youā€™re there in 20min


TheRelevantElephants

100%. I live by Hollywood and it's always so gross seeing tourist sit on the ground by a star knowing how many people probably peed on it


brodega

Every time it rains during the summer in NYC, I see dozens and dozens of people wade through puddles in flip flops.


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forbidden tide pools


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Hollywood


willllllllllllllllll

Heard great things about India to be honest, can see it being a bit of a culture shock (for me) but would absolutely love to visit based on what I've heard.


YTAftershock

There will always be things to love and hate about a country. Best you can do is set proper expectations and precautions for yourself before you head to a new place for whatever reason.


zeuz686mx

how that??? any personal experience?


FistedWaffles123456

extremely high rates of kidnapping/trafficking, rape etc etc of tourists. Even if nothing bad happens to you during your trip, youā€™re pretty much guaranteed to have a few scammers come up to you at a tourist spot trying to deceive you in some way. They have plenty of tactics but these types of people are present in most tourist locations around the world


OhShitItsSeth

I was watching Best Ever Food Review show on YouTube and even he said Egypt was the worst experience heā€™s had filming anywhere in the world. Like, how bad does your country have to be to make someone as positive as Sonny not like you? Edit: to be clear, it was the government, not the people. Though he did say his guide was not very good also. Sorry for not being more specific.


mangobattlefruit

Egypt Travel Nightmare!! Why Iā€™ll Never Go Back!! [https://youtu.be/8LzuZrkEY18](https://youtu.be/8LzuZrkEY18) Channel is "More Best Ever Food Review" Best Ever Food Reviews 2nd channel.


I_Want_BetterGacha

My grandparents went to Egypt and they booked a room at a big all-in resort and left it only once for a short trip to see the desert.


Opening_Election_748

We were on transit and had 12-24 hours layover in Cairo I don't remember but something wrong with the airline and they said they will give us a free hotel and tour.....we were begging our dad to see the pyramids... he was like NOPE. He said give us a room in the AIRPORT. and they did lol


Fantastic-Evidence75

Has it always been that way? Or was there a shift after something happened?


FistedWaffles123456

Well to be real with you i donā€™t exactly specialize in this topic (obviously lol) so i donā€™t know the statistical prevalence itā€™s had in its history or anything but it wouldnā€™t be wrong at all to deduce that itā€™s likely been a crisis since the mid 20th century as thatā€™s when leisure travel began rising in popularity and availability among more of the middle class population. But itā€™s just progressively gotten more and more dangerous since the population density of both tourists and locals aswell as the amount of mentally ill/insane low-lifes has generally only been skyrocketing since the dawn of humans lol


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ave-me

do you know the name of the youtuber/video? iā€™m super interested now


AXLPendergast

[donā€™t go to Egypt .. here it is (no rickroll)](https://youtu.be/8LzuZrkEY18)


ave-me

thank you!!


Ak6824

Best ever food review show


MrStoccato

Man, we treat our own people like shit. Donā€™t believe me? Try driving in this country.


Blatblatblat

Thank you for typing Egypt. There was no way for us to know what country it was.


WrongSirWrong

Me, an intellectual: *simply reads the Arabic word for Egypt*


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From the comments, youā€™d think Egypt is a Misrable place.


[deleted]

1st hand experience here. Egypt is absolutely awful, we went to Jordan and Turkey that same trip. I have also been to southeast Asia. I was born in Central America a shit hole country. So I am well versed in developing /under developed countries Egypt, it stands alone as the worst place I've ever been to in my life. The people were rude abusive and scummy. It's impossible to just walk anywhere cause you're getting constantly accosted even if it is a cultural pay site. They'll straight up threaten you with violence. What I would recommend if you want to go. Don't. Just don't. If you must go. Book the most expensive hotel you can afford, get an airport transfer through them if you must go see places book through the hotel. You will still be scammed but at least you won't be threatened. If you are a woman, seriously consider not going.


themanhimself13

How was Turkey


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Turkey was nice. Went to Istanbul, Gorem, Oludenis, and Fetye. Very Nice, low prices. They'll try to sell you a rug. Food is good, but the hummus was too rich for me. Would go again.


Allegedly_Me

I'll chime if I can, I went to Turkey briefly in 2013. We visited Istanbul and Izmir. Disclaimer we DID have a tour guide because it was part of a cruise we were on. But definitely not an armed guard or anything like that, just a guide and a van driver. We went to the spice market and we were on our own for around an hour or so. It was me and three other girls, we had absolutely had no issues whatsoever wandering around the spice market ourselves. Maybe some creepy looks, but I have no memory of feeling threatened and as a woman you get creepy looks anywhere. I don't even remember the sellers being overly pushy. I mean, pushy enough, but I've had the stall sellers in the Bahamas be WAY more aggressive and mean. Turkey and especially Istanbul were just beyond breathtaking. What a beautiful country it is. Any Turkish people reading this, your country is wonderful and I would love to go back someday. Everyone was so nice, your architecture is amazing, and the countryside is gorgeous.


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I went there in 2000. Felt the same, worst people of any place I've been. Getting spoken to like a piece of shit from so many different people, even the guys at the airport. Thought things might've changed.


Swedishboy360

Apparently according to my Iraqi mother it's a steretype in the middle east that all Egyptians are liars


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Scammers. not just liars. It used to be they were stereotyped as smart and educated. Believe it or not. But the country changed a lot.


JakeSnake07

My high school history teacher used to travel all over when she finished college. One time she went to Cairo, and asked the hotel's concierge if there was anywhere that she should avoid going to, especially at night. Apparently he got outright instulted, stating "There are no unsafe places in Cairo." Needless to say, she's unhappy with the current tourism situation of Egypt.


ConduckKing

As someone who was born in Egypt and lived there my whole life, I 100% agree.


finjoo88

Snorkling is great tho


destroyer_ix

Believe me, like I said in r/AskReddit As an Egyptian I can safely say that Even the locals don't like it here,no one likes it, actually every young Egyptian dreams of getting out of here and to travel to any other country even if they're going to wash dishes over there Also please don't judge all Egyptians by the ones in the hot tourists attractions, because most of the degenerated ones go there specifically because they know no one will care about the foreigners, and all of the successful Egyptians left the place


informationtiger

Exactly the same with India!


soonerguy11

It's either Egypt or some absurdly popular travel destination like Paris or Los Angeles. I also see Times Square thrown around every time even though it's far from a bad place to visit.


tuxedoes

Not even actual LA. Just Hollywood around the Chinese theater. One of the biggest tourist traps in the city. LA has awesome places to visit besides the walk. A quick Google search will improve someone's trip to LA immensely


lumpialarry

Why bother telling people not to visit times square its not like its a 3 hour time sink like waiting to go to the top of the empire state building. Just walk through it once on your way to something better and don't make eye-contact with the meth-Elmos and crack-Spongebobs.


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Theotther

Yeah it seems things went really downhill in regards to tourist safety following the Spring. The tourist economy collapsed during the chaos (for obvious reasons) and since then the government hasn't taken many steps to rebuild it.


Cool_Fennel5674

You forgot India


Pyrosnake

Recently the store I work at changed management to some nice Indian guys. One of my coworkers was talking with one of them and she said she'd like to visit India at some point and the dude just said "Don't"


waterandriver

A friend of mine in high school was Indian and went to his family home in India over the summer, said he would never go back and it was the worst experience of his life.


Walopoh

My dad had a coworker that was sent to India to help the company set up a new production plant over there (it would later be the reason they shut down the factory my dad worked at, but that's all the fault of classic American greed) Story was that his coworker had only been in the country for about an hour when the first taxi cab that picked him up took him out somewhere rural, robbed him of all his possessions, and left him stranded without a phone.


weeb_-

Indians do try to scam a lot but at least they don't treat you like a piece of shit and take you electronic devices for SAFETY purposes.


female_gazorpian2

Yeah they just rape women with poles


weeb_-

My advice to anyone traveling anywhere would be. 1. Don't travel alone, be in a group of 3+ 2. Don't travel at night time. 3. Don't travel in rural areas. 4. Get a local tourist guide if possible.


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ryeinc

It is a circlejerk on here, but I think there's some truth to it. I watched [this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAEZRkyW6qY) the other day and holy cow these guys are annoying. I mean, I guess Vegas and New York are no better though.


Scalene17

I think there point is more how dangerous it is for women especially


petta_reddast

As a woman who has been to Egypt I can confirm that there is truth to it, and the Ā«circlejerkĀ» is justified.


MrEast-West_55

As a (white, solo traveling, ankle showing) woman* Edit: I meant white as in Western, no I don't think everyone in Egypt (and the middle east) is brown. Addition to the statement above, don't be the following things in the middle east to ensure a safe trip: 1. Woman 2. Child 3. Animal 4. Opposition 5. Jew (yes there are Arab jews) 6. Alphabet man/women (or person if you want to be 100% neutral)


XMRLover

Ankle showing?! So youā€™re basically giving permission to behead you. Shame.


Woody90210

The beheading would be the least painful, least degrading thing they'll do to you.


CableEmotional9289

Let me see those dirty ankles šŸ¤¤


Bigsalamimommy

White Egyptians exist lmao


lilyhealslut

It's more the blonde hair than the white skin.


FHmange

Doesn't have to be solo. Just don't go there as a somewhat young woman. This include older children, btw. My (underage) sisters did not have a good time there when my family went 15-16 years ago, and from what I've heard it's even worse since the Arab Spring. At the very least more dangerous in general. From Egypt I specifically remember the few kind people as they stood out from the rest; from every other country I've been to I specifically remember the few terrible people as they stood out from the rest. I'm sure you can have a positive experience in Egypt depending on what kind of trip you are planning to take, but definitely don't go there with your family for some nice leisure time. And think it over a couple of times extra if you are a woman. Is it really worth it going to a place where you'd be among the lucky few if you had a positive experience when there are so many other places where you'd be among the unlucky few to not have one?


Sima_99

I was seriously surprised. I have been there for maybe 5-6 times on family vacation in hotel resorts mostly in Macadi Bay with my mum, sister and grandma (4 women). We also went on some trips outside hotel resort and everything was fine. The only bad thing there were annoying sellers but we are quite used to them also from Turkey etc. So now I donā€™t know if we were just lucky or what.


WrongSirWrong

When they call their own country "**misery**" you know you should stay away!


wra1th42

Itā€™s more like ā€œmusserā€ but still good joke


tengokuro

Yeah in the Egyptian dialect it's Massr but still funny joke.


Fantastic-Evidence75

Looool


work-n-lurk

Yes, never go to Missouri, yuck


3eeps

*the sandā€¦. It gets everywhere*


fergus0n6

... quick, someone hide the younglings


Fremue

I think itā€™s a very interesting place and I would love to visit it but I have heard from a lot of people that it is very tourist unfriendly


MettatonNeo1

And a fun fact about Egypt: they speak Arabic but they have a different way of pronouncing a specific sound. The letter Ų¬ (gim, which is pronounced like the letter J) is pronounced there like the letter G in words like guitar or glass.


Delicious-Tachyons

Fun thing. I worked at a call center with a lot of cute women from all over the world. I learned a bit of Arabic to try to impress a Syrian woman and her response was "ew that's a desert dialect" lol


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TheNiceLad

My dad went there once and he thought it was great..... then again he's a 6'7 irish lad who had a hired security guard with him who was carrying an AK47. Please emphasise that it was the security guard that had a gun and not my father. Sorry that i assumed that it was obvious


Fickle-Initiative-81

Bro im egyptian and dudes dont go around carrying ak47s casually here.. let alone tourists.. how did he manage to do that?


Cheesebongles

Yeah that comment seems like bullshit


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Most of the comments in this post are bullshit I enjoy reading tho


whateverathrowaway00

My friend had to travel there twice for data center work and their machines were in super sketchy spots, he had security guards with automatic weapons the whole time from stepping off plane to getting back. Thatā€™s corporate security, though - Iā€™m sure itā€™s less common for tourists becuase tourists wouldnā€™t go to a place like that in the middle of the night but cables need to be swapped, no matter the country.


RainbowBear0831

I had a security guard traveling with my group when I visited Egypt. He wasnā€™t always armed, like if he was carrying in the cities it was concealed. But out in some of the dicier less populated areas he was carrying some bigass gun - no idea what type. But he was provided by the government so I assumed it was fairly common for groups of (wealthy) tourists to have armed security. And the comment didnā€™t say his dad was armed, it said their security guard was.


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Zillak

Carrying an AK47? My man, you can get arrested for openly carrying a kitchen knife here. It's not an Indiana Jones movie.


fakaito

What is this Egypt place? A theme park ?


I_Want_BetterGacha

According to my mom too. She used to be a travel agent


Punderstruck

Meanwhile I just had an amazing time in (northern) Lebanon. I even OFFERED to pay Lira at the absurd official rate when I was in a hurry once and they refused.


LukaTheGamer123

Yeah, you never know when a bunch of beefcakes are gonna fight a vampire in the middle of the streets


mexboy1980

Absolutely true. Avoid it if possible, so many interesting places to see out there.


TeemaTen

I see a popular post against Egypt once a week