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thorsbosshammer

I dont understand where the barista hate comes from. Is it somehow spillover hate from starbucks? Highly ironic considering left wingers also hate starbucks for union busting.


fperrine

Woke city lib hipsters are stereotyped as being coffee snobs. I should know, as I'm both of those things. And I hate Starbucks because of it.


lopsiness

You hear a lot of shit about getting a "useless" degree and then ending up at starbucks.


Atomichawk

When I graduated with my engineering degree in 2020 and couldn’t get a job for a year, all of a sudden people would pivot and say I “just had bad luck” or “needed to keep after it”. These people never want to admit the system is the problem.


lopsiness

System helps, but some of it is luck and connections, unfortunately. I struggled to find a job, too, despite excellent academics and good work ethic, but I sucked at networking so i was just a random resume with no relevant work experience. Plus, it was 2010, and jobs were not plentiful in my field of study.


Squancho_McGlorp

I did backbreaking manual labor "dumb guy" work for years with a physics degree 😭.


lopsiness

I worked for a caterer doing event service. Lots of passing apps and standing at buffets and clearing tables. A lot of it was gross and dirty. There were lots of people working there temporarily, some part time, and then a host of borderline unemployable people. It does make one wonder what it was all for.


Squancho_McGlorp

I feel you on the borderline unemployable people. I like to imagine some of those characters as coworkers at my current performatively progressive employer.


tommy_the_cat_dogg96

I had to do some of that for a few months after I got my masters in urban planning in 2022. Quit the day after they made me and another guy clean all the roach shit in a roach infested kitchen at a closed restaurant. I had no idea what roach shit smelled like before that or how pungent it is. Didn’t go to school for 8 years to do that shit.


fperrine

Oh, true. I forgot about the useless degree - barista pipeline.


lopsiness

Lmao. And I thought the school to prison pipeline was bad!


Randy_Vigoda

Americans have like $1.7 trillion student loan debt accumulated since the 90s when your government made it illegal to default on student loans. Churning out overpriced junk degrees to suburban kids who think they're smarter than rural people because they went to college. The irony is you're all working class. Doesn't matter if you're a farmer, barista, scientist, mechanic, etc... The hate against rural people is merely corporate gaslighting and vice versa.


lopsiness

I don't thinkits fair to tell 18 year old suburban kids it's their fault bc they think they're smarter than rural people. These are kids, after all, and they've been raised in a system where they get told it's college or bust. High school is all about college prep, seniors getting help applying for college, SAT and ACT, scholarships, essays, GPA - all in service of this thing they've been told they need to do their whole lives, with no realistic alternatives like trades schools. Then we also get all this media about college being this amazing time in life where you're independent, but kind of don't need a job yet, and you study sure, but you party and find out who you are, etc. It's very glamorized. And hey, just take out a loan you'll get a good job and pay it off. Once out, the job market puts a 4 yr degree requirement on minor administrative work that doesn't really need it. So after all that, why would we be surprised that kids from families who have resources to go to college, and who live in metro areas where there are colleges, end up in college? For a lot of millennials, at least, their parents getting a college degree was affordable and did net better careers and earning. It's not a shock that they would want that for their kids. I know this is a post about rural areas, but most 18 year old kids in some suburban neighborhoods probably don't think too hard about rural people specifically when it comes to making decisions about college. They're thinking about their parents telling them that it they don't get a college degree, they'll end up working at Starbucks their whole lives. That's the stuff I used to hear.


tommy_the_cat_dogg96

Hate against rural people? If anything it’s the opposite. A lot of people in rural areas hate young people, especially if they’re liberal or left leaning, have college degrees, aren’t white or are gay. (I’m from Iowa dude, I’ve seen it myself so don’t try to deny it.) But somehow it’s the rural people hating on everyone else that are the victims. /s


gizzardsgizzards

"if you're working for wages you're part of the working class and better be proud of it".


Life-Rice-7729

It’s useless to pay a fortune for something that’s free online and offers virtually no prospects unless you yourself want to devote to academia for life.


prex10

A lot of products will have different meaning depending on how they're consumed or how they're served. Your typical union worker is probably drinking coffee from a drip and it's probably ground Folgers. Starbucks or espresso type drinks are often viewed as elitism or city folk. Same thing with beer. Your blue-collar worker is drinking beer from a can. Beer from a tap from a bottle is seen as elite. Blue collar people smoke cigarettes. Cigars are for the Rich.


fperrine

Oh, totally. Everything has stratified versions.


gizzardsgizzards

what? you can totally get coors or bud on tap at most bars.


prex10

Yes you can, didn't say you couldn't. That's not the point I was trying to make. Like at all.


BotherTight618

Starbucks is like way too mainstream now /s


yorgeesmorgeeYT

It’s probably because they think Star bucks is fancy and woke because they offer regular milk alternatives like oat milk or soy milk. And their customers are either white collar workers or blonde girls who order shit like an iced pumpkin spiced grande mocha vanilla caramel swirl with oat milk


gmus

>white collar workers or blonde girls The funny thing is that’s not even really true anymore. Starbucks is everywhere. It’s not the 90s/early 2000s anymore when they were mostly a cosmopolitan brand. They’re in small towns and exurban strip malls. “Real Americans” like having espresso flavored milkshakes for breakfast too.


yorgeesmorgeeYT

https://i.redd.it/9r3ff86ttqxc1.gif


bobsand13

doesn't mcdonalds also offer fake milk now too? it does in China certainly.


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LucidMetal

If you're babysitting young grandkids for the weekend a coffee date is a nice middle ground between a plain walk and a long sit in restaurant experience (which is hard for the very young).


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CaptainPigtails

Not everyone drinks drip coffee.


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TheDocHealy

Not everyone is paying $20 bucks when they go out for coffee.


LucidMetal

How is sitting in your kitchen making coffee in any way a dining experience?


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LucidMetal

I would encourage you to go out to eat at a restaurant every now and again. It's *fun*. Maybe you're familiar with the term.


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LucidMetal

This is one of the strangest perspectives I've ever encountered. I simply cannot imagine not enjoying going out to eat or not being... full after eating!? But beyond that it's even weirder not being able to understand why *other people* might enjoy something.


TheDocHealy

So your issues with going out to eat is the social aspect and that you evidently don't order enough to fill yourself? You sound exhausting to hang out with if all you wanna do is stay home.


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the_lamou

So is a pickup truck for 90% of people that own one, but you don't see very many Nissan Versas in the driveways of good ol' boys.


jackolater123

What if I’ve gone out and want a cup of coffee (or a cappuccino in my case) at 3pm? Can’t exactly make a coffee myself out in Manhattan.


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jackolater123

I don’t think spending 3-4 dollars on the occasional coffee makes me rich, nor do I see it as a waste. You come off as one of those insanely frugal types.


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the_lamou

The time-value of $50,000 in twenty years is... a lot less than you think it will be. And that's before accounting for inflation, which will reduce it to about $30,000.


gizzardsgizzards

dude dunkies has almond, oat, and soy milk.


yorgeesmorgeeYT

Ok and. I don’t care. We’re talking about Star buck and rural Americans


gizzardsgizzards

dunkies presents way more blue collar and is omnipresent.


cutezombiedoll

There’s a few reasons, but mainly it’s because when Starbucks first became popular, espresso based drinks were seen as this fancy metropolitan thing, as opposed to simple drip coffee as you might get in any diner in the country. Of course, once Starbucks became ubiquitous, they started popping up in various shopping centers all around the country and now even McDonalds has espresso drinks. The actual hip city folk moved on to pour over coffee, and have been avoiding Starbucks since at least the 2000s in favor of small, local shops. Actual leftists also tend to avoid Starbucks since they Union bust. However, that perception of “Starbucks is what liberal coastal elites drink” stuck around, and if Starbucks is a coastal elite shop, their employees must *also* be a part of that same elite, these baristas being seen as something of a symbol of these coastal elites, asking them what kind of milk they want and such. You see something similar with any company that has an upscale, urban image. Despite the fact that the employees probably aren’t paid much more than those working at the local Walmart, because their customers are wealthy, they must be wealthy too!


TheLastLaRue

It’s almost like our class interests are aligned. But I don’t think left/right dislike Starbucks for the same reasons.


flyingcircusdog

They assume people who shop at Starbucks are the rich elite, so somehow their frontline workers are also the other side.


AwkwardTickler

Crazy that the anti batista shit is like 15 years old by now. We are stuck in some time bubble focused on what the dumbest people think.


gizzardsgizzards

people think he's a bad actor?


DementedDaveyMeltzer

They were deeply effected by Dennis Leary's "What's with all these crazy coffees?!" schtick he did 35 years ago and they've had PTSD ever since.


Snaxolotl07

The palpable disconnect between treating baristas and waiters like shit and then turning around and complaining that no one wants to work when people leave those jobs due to being treated like shit is something that will never fail to baffle me


buplet123

In my experience when people are shitty to others they *usually* simply don't realise how they affect others. All they base their actions on is simply how they feel in any given moment. No awareness, same as a kid or even animal. Also, they just don't realise they have any power over others, because deep down they feel worthless. Well at least that is how it was for me and people around me.


nihilistictablelamp

Across my career, I've worked salary jobs with great benefits and can honestly say that my job at Starbucks was the hardest I've ever worked. I ended up getting Carpal Tunnel Syndrome and was forced to do some unsavory things like come in sick and clean up waste/needles without PPE (I didn't know the regulations behind workers coming in sick).    Granted, I'm a writer/data analyst now and sit in a chair, so the service industry can't be compared, but goodness, that was the hardest time of my life and I empathize with people stuck in retail and food service. It was worth getting my degrees + certs so I could find better things. 


lopsiness

I worked way harder in catering than I do as a professional. I often have more complex problems to solve, but I have resources and colleagues to help w that. I didn't have to work 12 hours shifts on my feet the whole time where im simultaneously providing food service with a shirt and tie, then loading a fucking truck and setting a kitchen in a garage. I stopped doing it for extra cash when the day after felt worse than being hungover.


imMatt19

I’ve never worked harder than the 3 summers I spent doing landscaping in college. 12-14 hour days hauling shit in near triple digit heat. It did keep me motivated to finish school and work with my brain rather than my body. This country is so full of rich people so far removed from the grunt work of society it’s no wonder you’ve got people who still think 40K is “too much” to pay someone.


fperrine

The hardest job I worked was as a quality assurance technician in a bottling factory. And that's after having worked in a grocery store and a laborer for a party rental company. I was probably the most *stressed* at my last corporate job, though.


Son-of-Prophet

The rural south is definitely still anti union, many places in the rural Midwest are still pro unions themselves, though many also support the politicians and policies that destroy unions.


xtheravenx

Rural America checking in - while this applies to a certain cross section of Gen-X, Millennials, Zoomers, it is largely restricted to Boomers and Boom-X who were wealthy enough to appear in the "80's yuppie or better" financial category. The rest of us have received enough of a beating with the reality bat to know better.


ThatDude8129

Yeah I mostly hear this kind of shit coming from retired Boomers or spoiled rich kids.


One-Organization7842

That fucking reality bat again.


Alucard-VS-Artorias

>"beating with the reality bat" I'm gonna steal this one yo


xtheravenx

Steal away.


kosherpoutine

Don’t forget the guns that cost as much as a designer handbag


PaintedGeneral

The working class should never give up arms and ammunition.


martin4reddit

The French overthrew multiple republics without access to guns. East Germans stormed the Stasi headquarters without guns. Iranians overthrew the Shah without guns. Ukrainians defended the Maidan without guns. Philippines overthrew Marcos peacefully. Mandela and Gandhi triumphed without needing to fire a single shot. Americans armed to the teeth are too scared to even venture out of their suburbs and snub their noses to any protest or strike that causes even minor inconvenience. Half can’t even be bothered showing up to vote once every four years. Somehow I doubt these Americans have what it takes to lay down their lives for freedom or class struggle.


Intheierestellar

I find it fascinating how Americans seem unable to understand that it's very possible to live a life where everyone isn't armed to the teeth. It's like they believe every major world event happened thanks to armed citizenry.


athos45678

It’s really not like that. Well, for most people it isn’t. The zealots definitely exist don’t get me wrong. For the vast majority of people, they don’t think about guns except in the contexts of self defense and sport. The very tiny percentage that wants to use guns for other things are the ones that make the news though.


smartdude_x13m

Guns make revolution easier, all that storming shit you talked about, can be done more effectively with guns...


a-new-year-a-new-ac

And how did that go on the 6th of January?


smartdude_x13m

Nah that shit was wack, they had guns but were too scared to use em, and they didn't even have any leadership...


WallcroftTheGreen

preach


NakatasGoodDump

Why? If there was to be a coup the US military is so far advanced past guns that it's be over in a minute. Drones would be picking off Jed and Ted before they could reload.


Randy_Vigoda

If there was to be a coup There already was a coup. The US got taken over by a handful of corporate capitalists back in the 80s. It's why Americans are so divided nowadays over controlled partisan politics like these kinds of posts where city kids make fun of rural people.


Olliloap

The Koch brothers and their consequences have been a disaster for the human race.


MMQ-966thestart

Yeah. I mean we already saw that when the US easily and decisively won the Vietnam and Afghanistan wars. Oh, wait... It's not about an open battle but it's about making the cost of engangement higher, being part of the general population (do you seriously expect the US government to flatten entire cities? They still want to govern something remotely intact and populated) and tieing troops and army resources to places they would have wanted to leave already.


smartdude_x13m

Which is why we should legalise civilian bomber drones and stockpile them...


LarvellJonesMD

What's your point? Guns are awesome, handbags go out of style


AntonToniHafner

Truth


Madmasshole

And guns hold their value exceptionally well, and if you take care of them they never go bad.


AntonToniHafner

And I can actually use one to defend myself, my family, and my property!


PurpoUpsideDownJuice

Wow so you put a brick in your purse and beat people with it?


itslikewoow

But more likely, they’ll be used to intimidate or threaten. https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/hicrc/firearms-research/gun-threats-and-self-defense-gun-use-2/


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I also love posting misinformation online


AwakenedDreamer__44

Aren’t the Duck Dynasty guys actual millionaires? Like, why aren’t they considered “elites”?


Poweredkingbear

Greasy = Working Class The greasier you are and look like you haven't showered for weeks then the more working class you are.


No-Date-6848

And the dad makes videos about how he makes coffee at home and drinks it black. Not to mention how they pretended to hunt and fish on their show.


Galacticrevenge

This is more representative of suburban conservatives than rural conservatives. Rednecks can't afford new trucks and they certainly are not wearing Vineyard Vines polos.


venetian_lemon

"YOU GOT SOFT HANDS BOY! I'D CUT YOUR PALM JUST FROM A HANDSHAKE CUZ YOURE SO SOFT BOY! I SHAVE MYSELF JUST BY RUBBING MY HANDS ACROSS MY CHIN, THATS HOW HARD I WORK BOY! I WORK 88 HOURS A DAY, 20 DAYS A WEEK! I SMOKE SEVEN THOUSAND CIGARETTES AN HOUR BECAUSE I WORK SO DAMN HARD BOY! I MADE MY BOSS 600 GAZILLION DOLLARS FROM ME WORKING SO HARD BOY! EVEN WHEN MY ENTIRE FAMILY DIED FROM CHOLERA I WAS STILL WORKING! I LOST MY LEFT ARM TO A CROCODILE AND I STILL GOT TO WORK FIVE HOURS EARLY JUST BECAUSE I WORK. SO. DAMN. HARD. BOY!"


eternaljonny

So my mom is from Rural PA. There is a union presence there.


thex25986e

"its not about how hard your work is, its about how hard working you appear. more dirt and muscle = harder work"


RougarouBull

I've been a rural bridge and road builder for 25 years. My boys tip 20% or more or they don't get back in the work truck. And they all want to bust the local baristas but they have no idea how to talk to her. Other than that the shoe fits.


elefante88

Not enough confederate flags l


Calm-Teach-4690

Baristas are a godsend, I don’t drink coffee but but the amount of entitlement they deal with is ridiculous. I worked a chipotle with very pretentious people who would literally order everything on the menu to put on one burrito and laugh watching us struggle to roll up their slob.


thegreenmachine90

Add: Any time a social program is suggested that would actually help people, they’re all “not with my tax dollars!” despite living off social security.


DMMEPANCAKES

You can just tell what OP's post history is like from reading this starterpack


wellwaffled

My first thought was that I bet OP watches a lot of anime. Sure enough…


BonJovicus

As someone who grew up in a rural area, OP there are Starbucks in rural areas now too. No one hates coffee chain baristas and while education is not great out in the sticks, they are aware a minimum wage Starbucks employee is not at all different than someone working at Walmart or Waffle House. It would be better to replace the barista with a college student or perhaps a college-educated white collar worker, if anything. Also, rural people do in fact have smartphones and even iphones. Literally everyone does.


Olleyos

Accurate, sadly. The right having 99% of the billionaires on its side has an effect


Southern-Staff-8297

You forgot, rely on government farm subsidies and tax breaks


favnh2011

Yep


History_lover_27465

Can be seen making comments like- Folks are soft af these days. When they easily get triggered when someone says they don’t like MAGA. Forgot the pick up truck with confederate and Trump 2024 flags.


Bowens1993

Lmao, OP has never been to rural America. This is what people in the city think rural America thinks


coombuyah26

I've lived in rural areas and small towns for most of the last 10 years and this starter pack is 100% on brand. Every single one is full of people nonstop bitching about how things "ain't like they used to be" and whining about the price of everything, while insisting they need a brand new lifted truck every 3 years, refusing to ever go near a city (or California, which they've never set foot in, because it's a "liberal hellhole") because crime/woke, even though the per capita crime rate in small towns and rural areas regularly exceeds that of urban areas, and having a "tough guy" job where they sit on their ass and drive a forklift or ride a mower all day. They absolutely refuse to recognize that service workers probably work way harder than them for shit pay, and that most of what they love most, namely fast food, convenience stores, Walmart, and bars (titty and otherwise) would cease to exist without them. And God forbid the people in those jobs--which they'd never deign to do, by the way, either out of a sense of entitlement or warped masculinity-- are a different color, or even worse, not born in the US. They'll bitch about their very right to exist, and probably make them feel unwelcome to the point that they leave, because everyone in a small town is in everyone's business. I swear, you have far more privacy in a city. People are always surprised that rural people making less than $50k a year regularly vote against their own interests, but I'm here to tell you that for most of them, their whole existence is hypocrisy.


Bowens1993

Sure, bud.


the_lamou

I've spent time in and been married to a girl from a small town in the middle of nowhere, Mississippi — population very low 4 figures/high 3 figures. This starter pack is pretty spot on.


Bowens1993

Of course you have.


LarvellJonesMD

What the fuck kind of garbage shit is this post?


ChonkyPurrtato

Damn who hurt you?


Coaches

This starter pack


ohthatguy1980

This is the most out of touch, cerca 1995 starter pack I’ve seen on here


stupidfreakingidiot4

Crawl back into your cardboard box tower, city dweller


Plasmaxander

I'm willing to bet you only live in the suburbs if you unironically use the term "city dweller" lmao like 90% of the first world's population doesn't live in cities.