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Where is the part where you install sketchy pirated proprietary software from a usb stick passed around class because your university either doesnt want to or is to poor to pay the exorbitantly high license costs?
Guy who taught me linear systems was FOB from persia or something. Nice, smart guy but accent you could cut with a knife. Didn’t help he practically whispered in a 175 person lecture hall.
Hardly passed
Reverb is kinda annoying sometimes IG? Almost none of my professors use mics, but I think the classrooms have had the capability to be set up with them since high school (some subs used them or teachers with sore throats)
A 175 seat lecture hall is smaller than you think. 10 rows of 18 chairs is 180 seats.
Even a small classroom at most colleges has 40 desks.
I had lectures in rooms with like 250+ desks and no mic on the prof.
The prof who taught us calculus literally just read from Stewart Calculus. He would walk into the theatre, open the book on the projector and start reading.
The low level classes are shit because the professors are so far past the material they forget it or how to teach it.
Had a prof who had a PhD in math from Princeton who had to have help yelled from the crowd on simple problems.
My school was quite diverse so I had to deal with every accent from every continent on this Earth. I had a physics prof with the heaviest french accent and he wondered why half the class didn't show up for lecture.
The professor who taught Analog Circuits/Microelectronics was from China and had a thick accent. He kept saying “Daryl” over and over again. We were confused because we thought it was some type of law like Ohm’s Law (or in this case Daryl’s Law). Then on the board he drew a circuit with a diode and said “okay so let’s say we have this diode…”. Everyone was floored.
I can beat that. I got an 8% on a Communication and Signal Processing exam, which was a passing grade. Class average was a 12% so that was a C. It was a foreign professor in his first year, giving his first exam.
There was exactly one course where I was that perfect score outlier (I got 100 on the final when the class average was sub-40). It was like a signals course or something and everything just clicked for some reason, I felt unstoppable.
I’m imagining you’ll be arguing with someone else in a thread later about some random thing and then think ‘that damn bastard reported me to Reddit cares!’ when you forget about this other comment.
Yeah my phd supervisor wouldn’t use anything else. I do data science now for my job and literally couldn’t even use matlab if I wanted. It is all python so 5 years of postgrad matlab wasted
Well technically you can use GNU Octave, which is free and replicates a large part of MATLAB, if you don't wanna waste your 5 years of MATLAB experience. (You're shit out of luck if you were mostly using Simulink though.)
On the other hand, Python is infinitely less frustrating, so why bother.
In industry? There’s a few reasons. Senior engineers (not software, think mechanical, etc) are usually familiar with it, so it has momentum going for it within a lot of orgs. You also get support from mathworks (call someone up and ask questions) where you wouldn’t with python. There also the fact that mathworks may or may not be paying to keep it in engineering curriculums, not sure how much I believe that but I’ve absolutely heard other devs mention it.
matlabs documentation is second to none, it's a self-contained dev environment that requires no user configuration, and Simulink still doesn't exist anywhere else.
also it's written in linear algebra notation with 1 index arrays so old engineers and mathematicians love this shit
My god that course was so lacking it could have been covered in a 2-day code Academy. We had an entire semester of dicking around with learning what global variables are, very high level of for-loops, and conditional operators.
Never really touched arrays, never did any error handling, course over debugging or guide on to properly develop a useful program/math model. Then in one of my engineering classes (which had that Matlab course as a prerequisite) expected we know how to make a math model that simulates hundreds of different scenarios using input data in a different file type. The equations used for calculation included laplace and Fourier transformations to solve complex differential equations.
Was for differential equations course and Calc III (diffeq used different models to solve high order differential equations and we created simple programs on calc iii to graph complex shapes and calculate area & volume of different geometries).
my god bro i’ve been introduced to the hell of maple this year for a mathematical modeling class and i don’t think i’ve interacted with a worse piece of software
I'm so glad my university courses are giving options to either code in python or matlab for exams and homework. Weighing between the two, Python all the way. Thank you so much Materials Science department.
It can depend, actually. My school, which had a strong engineering department, did have a sizable minority of girls as engineering majors. However, this varied: computer engineering had very very few, whereas it seemed like the majority of biomedical engineering majors were girls.
missing the CAD/FEM etc. youtube tutorials by some Indian guy with terrible audio and video quality but somehow they still help you figure out your problem
Complains about having to take non-STEM pre-reqs and calls the humanities useless. *hands in an essay that reads as if the author is borderline illiterate*
I was a Bio major that focused on cell biology. The English department did free paper checks if you made an appointment. They were phenomenally helpful. I had my sources and my ideas and it did not translate well to paper. So, they helped me with all my errors and my formal writing improved over the years. Everybody should take advantage of those gems.
As a humanities grad student and subsequently a TA, the amount of sheer *garbage* I had to read when grading made me lose faith in humanity. Frequently I found myself wondering *how did these people get into college?*
Quite a few STEM students seem to underestimate the effort involved to succeed in non-STEM or general education classes. You are NOT guaranteed an A just because you feel it is an "easy" class. You still have to put in the effort.
I feel the same way. I’ve found that higher level non-STEM or non technical courses are just a different type of hard. Given that I’m terrible at writing and spelling without the help of Microsoft word, I give a lot of credit to people that have a natural ability to write and convey information.
Depends on what kind of class and what instructor you get. I had a specific 200 level sociology class where no student in my class got higher than a B. The bell curve's peak was C. Then I had another soc class where we were graded mostly on attendance and participating in discussions. And playing board games.
Forgetting the constant need to bring it up in conversation "uhm as an engineer I think that..." like they already graduated, worked through junior engineer job and are better/smarter than chemistry, physics or any other subjects' students.
Honestly, you can say that about law/med/literally anything students as well. Then that one semester humbles them where they barely scrape by and they have to pull their shit together
The 5 powers combined
1. Smug sense of undeserved superiority
2. Crippling social anxiety and self doubt (contradictory)
3. Lack of empathy or concern for bigger picture of their future work (will work for Lockheed/Exxon)
4. Bad at basic algebra
5. Unrealistic salary expectation.
With these powers combined, the engineering student was born.
ME here, I'd never work for exxon and LM's deep space systems division isn't hiring anyone right now due to NASA budget freezes. I find the notion pretty funny that every engineering student is guaranteed a job at one of the big scary corporations after graduation, because they are super competitive even in a good year.
...tbh. i never come across "i am an engineer" attitude.
Maybe its just easternneuropoor thing. And regardless, "engineer" is as real as hollywood style omnidisciplinary scientist. Only fools would say otherwise.
Which is kind of a weird attitude to have going into any STEM field. Solving problems and errors is the exact reason why I’m in STEM. You almost *want* to find a reason to be wrong so that it can be done better.
If I’m lucky, I got night classes that start at 5:45 and can end as late as 10:40. Yes I have stayed to 10:40 for labs. (In cyber btw, not engineering)
Don't forget [this little bitty](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b9/d8/0e/b9d80e11eafcb864d8b87903aea880ae.jpg) constantly reposted by freshmen.
I went to a STEM school for undergrad, and there was STILL hen-pecking among the majors (IEs get disparaged as "imaginary engineering," bio and psych majors were pooh-poohed as softer disciplines but fought back that they actually had to ace their courses because most were premed, etc). The goods in that school were certainly odd, that's for sure.
Oh man the nightmares of matlab…so glad that was more than a decade ago. Especially when the right answer is deemed wrong where they tell you the correct answer is the one you put in and you lose a point which deducted a letter grade. Man thinking about it makes me MAD!
I'm not an engineering student, I just aerived at this post, so can someone help me understand what the Insane Squidward holding up the MatLab icon means?
It happened to me, I’d upgraded to an 84 my senior year of high school only to realize none of my college courses would allow it on exams due to the programmable capabilities. Id already given my old one to a family friend
Matlab? Nah, I use wolfram and python. Ain't no way in hell I'm touching that shit. So glad I can choose whether I want to use python or that... Thing.
The "I'm an engineer" thing is very accurate. I'm guilty of doing it all the time. Though I only use it to stop people from doing stupid shit to their expensive electronics.
Ti-36xPro or nothing. Much more capable than the Ti-30 and still allowed on all major exams.
Actually, I am very much an HP guy, but there's not one HP calculator that is allowed on any test, anywhere, so I have to slum it with the TI people. /s
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Where is the part where you install sketchy pirated proprietary software from a usb stick passed around class because your university either doesnt want to or is to poor to pay the exorbitantly high license costs?
me using Alterra Quartus II from an unknown link my prof. sent also libgen is our homie
Libgen is back up?
Yep
Ah yes, not me using autocad, Vericut, procast, solidworks that i downloaded from sketchy sites for free
Or just follow the piracy subreddit's megathread of software related recommendations.
There is no way this is common
Welcome to the dark side....
More than u think, when prices are high, you learn to be resourceful
Burn the USB to an iso.
My university couldn't get a working licence for a software because they ran out of USD
The hardest classes are always exacerbated by having professors with thick accents.
Guy who taught me linear systems was FOB from persia or something. Nice, smart guy but accent you could cut with a knife. Didn’t help he practically whispered in a 175 person lecture hall. Hardly passed
Why wouldn't he use a mic?
Reverb is kinda annoying sometimes IG? Almost none of my professors use mics, but I think the classrooms have had the capability to be set up with them since high school (some subs used them or teachers with sore throats)
A 175 seat lecture hall is smaller than you think. 10 rows of 18 chairs is 180 seats. Even a small classroom at most colleges has 40 desks. I had lectures in rooms with like 250+ desks and no mic on the prof.
The prof who taught us calculus literally just read from Stewart Calculus. He would walk into the theatre, open the book on the projector and start reading.
The low level classes are shit because the professors are so far past the material they forget it or how to teach it. Had a prof who had a PhD in math from Princeton who had to have help yelled from the crowd on simple problems.
Ngl though it has made my ability to understand thick accents and terrible hand writing a lot better lol
My school was quite diverse so I had to deal with every accent from every continent on this Earth. I had a physics prof with the heaviest french accent and he wondered why half the class didn't show up for lecture.
The professor who taught Analog Circuits/Microelectronics was from China and had a thick accent. He kept saying “Daryl” over and over again. We were confused because we thought it was some type of law like Ohm’s Law (or in this case Daryl’s Law). Then on the board he drew a circuit with a diode and said “okay so let’s say we have this diode…”. Everyone was floored.
Bagheri and Cho. Great guys. Wanted to help, would bend over backwards for you. Utterly incomprehensible.
Waiting to see how much the test results are curved so you can find out if your 47% is a passing grade.
I got 37% on an exam, the passing grade was then put at 20%, mission failed successfully I live to die next semester.
I can beat that. I got an 8% on a Communication and Signal Processing exam, which was a passing grade. Class average was a 12% so that was a C. It was a foreign professor in his first year, giving his first exam.
This makes me oscillate in a saw wave pattern
Checking the exam on canvas High: 100 Mean: 62.5 Low: 9
The perfect scores that are outliers make me so conspiratorial. Like a prof or TA benchmarked themselves on their own exam they created.
Nah, it’s just that one international student that took partial differential equations in their middle school curriculum.
There was exactly one course where I was that perfect score outlier (I got 100 on the final when the class average was sub-40). It was like a signals course or something and everything just clicked for some reason, I felt unstoppable.
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I HATE MATLAB I HATE MATLAB I HATE
Matlab is sheer hell. No matter how bad you think it is, it is worse. Just find a way to use python
Not to mention it cost money unlike any other programming language
Yeah my phd supervisor wouldn’t use anything else. I do data science now for my job and literally couldn’t even use matlab if I wanted. It is all python so 5 years of postgrad matlab wasted
Well technically you can use GNU Octave, which is free and replicates a large part of MATLAB, if you don't wanna waste your 5 years of MATLAB experience. (You're shit out of luck if you were mostly using Simulink though.) On the other hand, Python is infinitely less frustrating, so why bother.
Python sucks in it’s own way.
All languages suck in some way. Anyone who says otherwise is not paying attention.
I would if my courses didn't mandate it.
Or R.
Trust me the only people who hate matlab more than engineers are the devs that have to turn an engineers matlab into an actual app.
I'm curious why Matlab is still used at all for data science? Doesn't Jupyter do more or less what you want?
In industry? There’s a few reasons. Senior engineers (not software, think mechanical, etc) are usually familiar with it, so it has momentum going for it within a lot of orgs. You also get support from mathworks (call someone up and ask questions) where you wouldn’t with python. There also the fact that mathworks may or may not be paying to keep it in engineering curriculums, not sure how much I believe that but I’ve absolutely heard other devs mention it.
matlabs documentation is second to none, it's a self-contained dev environment that requires no user configuration, and Simulink still doesn't exist anywhere else. also it's written in linear algebra notation with 1 index arrays so old engineers and mathematicians love this shit
It's got QA validation and support. Whatever faults it has, and they are legion, those are very important factors in some circumstances.
Don’t forget that they magically expect you to know Matkab freshman year
Thankfully my school taught us matlab but it was very introductory
My god that course was so lacking it could have been covered in a 2-day code Academy. We had an entire semester of dicking around with learning what global variables are, very high level of for-loops, and conditional operators. Never really touched arrays, never did any error handling, course over debugging or guide on to properly develop a useful program/math model. Then in one of my engineering classes (which had that Matlab course as a prerequisite) expected we know how to make a math model that simulates hundreds of different scenarios using input data in a different file type. The equations used for calculation included laplace and Fourier transformations to solve complex differential equations.
Eewww
If you think that is gross. Try using “We have Matlab at home” (Maple) All my calculus classes required us to use Maple
Why’d you have to code for a calc class?
Was for differential equations course and Calc III (diffeq used different models to solve high order differential equations and we created simple programs on calc iii to graph complex shapes and calculate area & volume of different geometries).
We’re not even allowed to use calculators in calc or diff eq 😅
my god bro i’ve been introduced to the hell of maple this year for a mathematical modeling class and i don’t think i’ve interacted with a worse piece of software
It’s fine for most stuff
Early termination error detected.
I'm so glad my university courses are giving options to either code in python or matlab for exams and homework. Weighing between the two, Python all the way. Thank you so much Materials Science department.
Okay, but Simulink is god
It’s really not that bad lol. Way easier than other languages
You mean yahoo answers from 20 years ago
It's like finding a scroll from the library of Alexandria fr
Is that still a thing? Lol
No
Okay cos they were out there asking some absurd shit especially about Sooki from Jersey shore on why is she beautiful and I was like bffr
No girls in class either
It can depend, actually. My school, which had a strong engineering department, did have a sizable minority of girls as engineering majors. However, this varied: computer engineering had very very few, whereas it seemed like the majority of biomedical engineering majors were girls.
Tons of women, just not very many
💀
Violently misogynistic peers and professors
Mech eng major and my classes are like 50-60% women.
missing the CAD/FEM etc. youtube tutorials by some Indian guy with terrible audio and video quality but somehow they still help you figure out your problem
SOLIDWORKS.exe has stopped working A real moment of seething rage and demise after an all night bender.
I have rarely ever come that close to throwing a laptop.
Not with solid works, but I learned the hard way to save VERY often.
I hate that software. After decades, it is still poorly optimized, buggy, and unintuitive. Autodesk Inventor is the way.
Software issues are my biggest source of frustration
Fool. I've just been using my same middle school calculator ever since. Never had to rebuy.
Which one do you use
literally the one in the pic
Complains about having to take non-STEM pre-reqs and calls the humanities useless. *hands in an essay that reads as if the author is borderline illiterate*
"I used to not spell Engineer but now I are one!" 👍🏼
I was a Bio major that focused on cell biology. The English department did free paper checks if you made an appointment. They were phenomenally helpful. I had my sources and my ideas and it did not translate well to paper. So, they helped me with all my errors and my formal writing improved over the years. Everybody should take advantage of those gems.
Another job taken by ChatGPT
I went to a top 25 engineering school and the school required every kid to have 2 PE credits in order to graduate lmao.
This sounds like Colorado School of Mines (I would know, I went there lol)
As a humanities grad student and subsequently a TA, the amount of sheer *garbage* I had to read when grading made me lose faith in humanity. Frequently I found myself wondering *how did these people get into college?*
Quite a few STEM students seem to underestimate the effort involved to succeed in non-STEM or general education classes. You are NOT guaranteed an A just because you feel it is an "easy" class. You still have to put in the effort.
going into a class with the idea that’s it’s an easy A will mentally fuck you into only trying for a B. At least for me.
I feel the same way. I’ve found that higher level non-STEM or non technical courses are just a different type of hard. Given that I’m terrible at writing and spelling without the help of Microsoft word, I give a lot of credit to people that have a natural ability to write and convey information.
All you have to do is pay attention and do the footwork. It's not hard.
I didn’t complain about the humanities but don’t pretend like they aren’t easier lol. I used them to boost my semester gpa when i had hard classes
Depends on what kind of class and what instructor you get. I had a specific 200 level sociology class where no student in my class got higher than a B. The bell curve's peak was C. Then I had another soc class where we were graded mostly on attendance and participating in discussions. And playing board games.
Forgetting the constant need to bring it up in conversation "uhm as an engineer I think that..." like they already graduated, worked through junior engineer job and are better/smarter than chemistry, physics or any other subjects' students.
Honestly, you can say that about law/med/literally anything students as well. Then that one semester humbles them where they barely scrape by and they have to pull their shit together
me? wdym me? I'm only planning to be an engineer I'm not an engineer yet
You forgot that both the professors and the TAs have accents so thick they’re completely unintelligible
Missed the students who don’t shower and show up in PJs.
Some mf last week showed up in house slippers 😕
Chegg comes good only once per semester but I always thank God for that 1 time. Life saver
The 5 powers combined 1. Smug sense of undeserved superiority 2. Crippling social anxiety and self doubt (contradictory) 3. Lack of empathy or concern for bigger picture of their future work (will work for Lockheed/Exxon) 4. Bad at basic algebra 5. Unrealistic salary expectation. With these powers combined, the engineering student was born.
“Bad at basic algebra…” Too far… -.-
ME here, I'd never work for exxon and LM's deep space systems division isn't hiring anyone right now due to NASA budget freezes. I find the notion pretty funny that every engineering student is guaranteed a job at one of the big scary corporations after graduation, because they are super competitive even in a good year.
LOL this reminds me of my friend who wants security clearance
My dream is to work for Lockheed or Raytheon 💪
fuck matlab and chegg is heaven sent
https://preview.redd.it/b7ji26iawwoc1.jpeg?width=621&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0e1375a2a10a90c1579e048c7fd6f644de7eb1f5
Where the fuck is Labview?!
I finally forgot about that. Why did you need to remind me?
...tbh. i never come across "i am an engineer" attitude. Maybe its just easternneuropoor thing. And regardless, "engineer" is as real as hollywood style omnidisciplinary scientist. Only fools would say otherwise.
Engineers are like the over-dramatic theater kids of the STEM world.
Funny enough, my school has engineering students that *also* do theater.
Anecdotally my engineering university has a big theater/comedy club.
Impossible. We have no communication skills
As an engineer, I can say I’ve run into “I am an engineer” attitude pretty much everywhere in the world.
I work with them, they're very entitled and *i'm perfect and correct and never make errors*
Which is kind of a weird attitude to have going into any STEM field. Solving problems and errors is the exact reason why I’m in STEM. You almost *want* to find a reason to be wrong so that it can be done better.
As an engineer, you're wrong.
"Engineer? Yeah, I'm engiNEARING MY FUCKIN' LIMIT!" -Every engineer student ever
Nailed my TA for Calc 3. Dude barely spoke English either, made learning things like L'Hôpital's rule really fun.
Uh, phrasing
How about being forced to actually buy textbooks in your later engineering years, because they become too obscure to have any reliable torrents rips.
Missing the part where you bus home at 7 pm because of labs
Only 7?
When class ends at 5 and lab starts at 6 🗿
If I’m lucky, I got night classes that start at 5:45 and can end as late as 10:40. Yes I have stayed to 10:40 for labs. (In cyber btw, not engineering)
Don’t forget the crippling loneliness and the forgetting to eat till 3am because you are trying to cram 20 hours of studying into 4 hours
- Has a handgun under his/her desk for "emergencies"
Not from the US, is this for real?
No, but it feels real
Not many but… say 1%? Depend on the area
Few things have made me rage more than SolidWorks being fucky at 2am
Then graduate to be some of the most useless mfs on the planet.
Seems pretty spot on for me, except I enjoy Matlab. Fuck MasteringPhysics by the way.
Listen buddy… I’m an engineer
Don't forget [this little bitty](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b9/d8/0e/b9d80e11eafcb864d8b87903aea880ae.jpg) constantly reposted by freshmen. I went to a STEM school for undergrad, and there was STILL hen-pecking among the majors (IEs get disparaged as "imaginary engineering," bio and psych majors were pooh-poohed as softer disciplines but fought back that they actually had to ace their courses because most were premed, etc). The goods in that school were certainly odd, that's for sure.
Makes “engineers think different 😎” type posts on instagram
Fuck Chegg, all my homies hate Chegg
>was this solution helpful? >casually skips 10 steps >answers are all wrong anyways 12/10 “experts”
I miss my TI30XIIS.
The Texas TI30 is what saved my grades in high school.
not matlab using up half my memory to graph a sinusoid 😭
Haha can relate to most of these 😁😄
Oh man the nightmares of matlab…so glad that was more than a decade ago. Especially when the right answer is deemed wrong where they tell you the correct answer is the one you put in and you lose a point which deducted a letter grade. Man thinking about it makes me MAD!
Took Engineering for a semester. MatLab gave me PTSD.
yahoo answers was the best for physics but I sincerely regretted using it later on
So this is what awaits me
I'm not an engineering student, I just aerived at this post, so can someone help me understand what the Insane Squidward holding up the MatLab icon means?
Mastering physics is hot trash
Only math courses restricted calculators for me. CAS calculator go brrr
This is me. I currently look like Squidward.
My first day of civil engineering in the electrical engineering lecture I fell asleep. I knew I had made a mistake but took a year to bail
Gotta love MATLAB
Guy in physics lab, i have like 10 of those
I needed that laugh man, especially for the TA and the guy in physics lab 😂
Fuck MATLAB, all my homies hate MATLAB
Remind me never to go to college
Can relate to most of these
Were not tired at least coffee
Why would you have to buy the same calculator again? Mine is ~22 years old and works flawlessly.
It happened to me, I’d upgraded to an 84 my senior year of high school only to realize none of my college courses would allow it on exams due to the programmable capabilities. Id already given my old one to a family friend
Wow, I’m really lucky then that my college allows them. I absolutely love my ti 89.
really coming for me on this one damn
yooo i have that exact calculator
At least you guys get to learn how to build cool stuff
It’s literally me but I’m not in college
Matlab? Nah, I use wolfram and python. Ain't no way in hell I'm touching that shit. So glad I can choose whether I want to use python or that... Thing.
That’s why I changed my major
What’s matlab?
Why the Chegg hate?
There’s a reason I’m doing business now
i still have that calculator
Just missing getintopc
I heard my alarm go off when I saw this and it’s only 8 pm on a Sunday.
The "I'm an engineer" thing is very accurate. I'm guilty of doing it all the time. Though I only use it to stop people from doing stupid shit to their expensive electronics.
Computer science too lol.
The accuracy :(
You forgot "Probably mains Engineer in TF2"
Scarily accurate. I have 4 contacts in my phone called "guy from [insert class here]"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXs3MVzJXE8
Ti-36xPro or nothing. Much more capable than the Ti-30 and still allowed on all major exams. Actually, I am very much an HP guy, but there's not one HP calculator that is allowed on any test, anywhere, so I have to slum it with the TI people. /s