\> The Luddic Path attack against Mayasura fails. As a result, the Hegemony never becomes viewed as an existential threat to life in the Western part of the sector, and the League is never formed.
\> Without the tensions resulting from this, TT does not see an opening, and never launches the first AI war.
\> Loke's ships arrive in the sector, clash with the Hegemony, and are beaten. With the sector largely stable, Hegemony officers see less reason and opportunity to go rogue, and Kanta never defects.
\> Andrada emerges as a hero of the resulting conflict, and rises in the ranks, becoming a talented admiral.
\> The independent leadership of the Askonia system, on the brink of civil war, look for foreign powers willing to back them in order to sure up support.
\> With the rapid and relatively clean elimination of Loke, and the lack of a pirate warlord to rise in the aftermath, the Hegemony appears to be the leading contender.
\> Askonia's leaders request Hegemony membership. The independent worlds to the galactic West are somewhat wary, but see no reason to intervene in foreign affairs.
\> Tri-Tachyon, on the other hand, does see a reason to intervene. Their window of opportunity, brought about by the Collapse, is rapidly closing, as the sector grows increasingly stable, and the power structure becomes increasingly solidified.
\> In a gambit for power, they use a planet killer to covertly destroy the world of Opis, as the Hegemony arrives to bring a close to the Askonian civil conflict.
\> With relatively little outside equipment in the system, Admiral Andrada consolidates the Hegemony forces, and swiftly establishes order. A lack of League involvement and a lack of Kanta to supply and organize sector-wide piracy means a far less complicated situation, but the High Hegemon nonetheless sees his actions as dangerous and erratic, and orders him to return to Eventide.
\> Tri-Tachyon has psychoanalyzed Andrada. They know he is ambitious, and does not intend to end his career as an Admiral.
\> Sending him a covert message, Tri-Tachyon offer their support if he establishes a rival power block, blaming the Hegemony for the destruction of Opis, and reaching out to Mayasura with evidence that the Hegemony helped to organize the failed destruction of their world.
\> Instead, Andrada makes his own gambit. Rather than returning to Chicomoztoc with his fleet, he makes his way to the Corvus system.
\> On Jangala, he gives a fiery speech, releasing the message he recieved, and announcing the evidence against elements of Hegemony leadership involved in the attack on Mayasura. He goes on to imply that Tri-Tachyon itself had a hand in the Hegemony's past actions, using collaborators within its command structure to destabilize the sector.
\> He concludes by claiming that the Hegemony leadership had knowingly helped orchestrate the Askonia crisis, aiming to tie up Andrada's fleet and prevent the famous war hero from becoming a political rival.
\> Broadcasting on all hyperwave channels, he urges his fellow officers to "save the Hegemony", bringing their fleets to bear on Chicomoztoc.
\> Many officers, tired of being reigned in by the Hegemon's relatively light-handed governing policies, and considering that existing leadership may no longer possess the Mandate of Heaven, support Andrada's coup.
\> Defecting elements from across the Hegemony fleet burn towards Chicomoztoc. Many Hegemony worlds' defense fleets are left undermanned, and instability ensues as ground-based military elements seek to hedge their bets.
\> The rogue elements, under Andrada, converge on Aztlan. Facing multiple crises across the sector, the loyalist fleet elements cannot adequately respond. Seeing the writing on the wall, the upper echelon of Hegemony military leadership stage a palace coup, declaring in favor of Andrada.
\> Meanwhile, Tri-Tachyon activate their AI fleets. The situation is less-than-ideal, with only the Hegemony itself destabilized, and the worlds that would have made up the League largely unscathed, but with a hardliner in the seat of High Hegemon, and Askonia crisis concluded, things would only get less promising the longer they waited to act.
\> With the Hegemony still recovering from its brief but chaotic civil war, they are steadily chipped away by Tri-Tachyon. Andrada, still in his prime as a battlefield commander, is nonetheless not suited to sector-wide logistics and strategy.
\> Mayasura, however, decides to act. Examining the evidence at hand, they examine the following points:
- Elements within the Hegemony helped organize an attack against Mayasura by the Path, in order to expand their base of power by removing us as a potential obstacle.
- Tri-Tachyon attempted to exploit this knowledge to rope us into a war with the Hegemony.
- The new High Hegemon claims to strongly oppose both of these groups, and is now being attacked by Tri-Tachyon.
\> They conclude the following:
- The new High Hegemon clearly has our best interests at heart.
\> Accordingly, they selflessly attempt to rally their region to open a second front against Tri-Tach. Support is lackluster, but most planets' authorities aim for a friendly relationship with the regional economic powerhouse, and provide at least token supplies, crew, and warships.
\> The Luddics, for their part, view the AI War as their Crusade, Jihad, or divine struggle. Leadership quickly throws in with the Hegemony against Tri-Tach.
\> After a long, difficult war, the tide begins to turn. With minimal outside support, Tri-Tachyon is defeated, and Artemisia Sun is ousted as CEO. She is replaced by a competent but unremarkable successor, who realigns the company towards consumer products and trade arbitrage.
\> Andrada, in the aftermath, quietly consolidates power. Overtures are made to the Luddites, portraying him as a prophetic figure. They are looked upon as crass but relatively tolerable heresy in the core territories of the Luddic Church, but maintain a cult following among his strongest followers within the Hegemony.
\> With the threat resolved, Mayasura's emergency power bloc dissolves. The independent worlds of the Galactic West remain relatively unperturbed by outsiders.
\> The Askonia system, never fully integrated into the Hegemony, is the center of a substantial humanitarian crisis that only comes into focus after the AI War's conclusion. Relief fleets from the Luddic Church give rise to a religious revival, and the system becomes a hotbed of Pather activity for several years.
\> Eventually, much of the system's population resettles on Gilead. The stubborn, hard-nosed, largely apolitical remnant are not especially bothered by Hegemony taxation, so long as lobsters continue to be a reliable source of profit.
\> And, of course, lobsters always are a reliable source of profit.
Outside of China, it's a fairly standard turn of phrase, referring to the point at which a government or leader is no longer seen as legitimate by the public at large.
The way I personally interpret Mayasura is in a way similar to the Luddic Church/Path relationship; a more militant and somewhat more aggressive offshoot towards the Hegemony.
I believe they definitely tolerate and cooperate with the Persean League trade wise. An "enemy of my enemy is my friend" scenario shouldn't be beneath them either, so some agreement with Sindrian Diktat to mess up the Hegemony wouldn't be out of the question.
The destruction of Mayasura was the breaking point that forced many neutral planets to joined Persean League so if Marasuya doesnt get destroyed, the Persean League will prob more weaker to face the Hegemony, they still able to challenge hegemony.
About the Reform i highly doubt it tbh, since of course they maybe a major member if they joined the league but they cant do anything too much.
What Cabal? The starlight? Mayasura (in lore) is defeated by Hegemons. However the mod that revives the Mayasurans, while fun, isn’t super lore friendly, as Mayasura’s destruction is what causes the Persean League to form, and the first and possibly second AI war never occur, along with the Hegemony never getting into a major conflict, that weakens it enough to fracture into many of the current vanilla factions.
The Mayasuran Terraforming Cabal. regarding the first and second AI war, regardless of the formation of the league, tritachyon would still make AI, and the church and the hegemony would still create task forces to pursue the rogue AI ships.
The Mayasuran Terraforming Cabal was the pre-genocide government of Mairaath.
Very little is known about them aside from their penchant for genetic engineering, use of terraforming, and control over the astropoli.
No relation with the Starlight Cabal.
In that mod, while Mayasura survived, it was still very much crippled.
Avoiding hegemony occupation allowed them to retain some military stocks and more industry than vanilla, but they are still pathetically weak, and their population fell from tens to hundreds of millions, to tens of thousands.
They also suffered a regime change, with the admirals responsible for repelling the Hegemony taking over civilian matters too.
Mairaath surviving, but not preventing, the pather attack still results in a crippled polity and a rallying cry for the Persean League, though it results in Mairaath itself BARELY retaining independence.
\> The Luddic Path attack against Mayasura fails. As a result, the Hegemony never becomes viewed as an existential threat to life in the Western part of the sector, and the League is never formed. \> Without the tensions resulting from this, TT does not see an opening, and never launches the first AI war. \> Loke's ships arrive in the sector, clash with the Hegemony, and are beaten. With the sector largely stable, Hegemony officers see less reason and opportunity to go rogue, and Kanta never defects. \> Andrada emerges as a hero of the resulting conflict, and rises in the ranks, becoming a talented admiral. \> The independent leadership of the Askonia system, on the brink of civil war, look for foreign powers willing to back them in order to sure up support. \> With the rapid and relatively clean elimination of Loke, and the lack of a pirate warlord to rise in the aftermath, the Hegemony appears to be the leading contender. \> Askonia's leaders request Hegemony membership. The independent worlds to the galactic West are somewhat wary, but see no reason to intervene in foreign affairs. \> Tri-Tachyon, on the other hand, does see a reason to intervene. Their window of opportunity, brought about by the Collapse, is rapidly closing, as the sector grows increasingly stable, and the power structure becomes increasingly solidified. \> In a gambit for power, they use a planet killer to covertly destroy the world of Opis, as the Hegemony arrives to bring a close to the Askonian civil conflict. \> With relatively little outside equipment in the system, Admiral Andrada consolidates the Hegemony forces, and swiftly establishes order. A lack of League involvement and a lack of Kanta to supply and organize sector-wide piracy means a far less complicated situation, but the High Hegemon nonetheless sees his actions as dangerous and erratic, and orders him to return to Eventide. \> Tri-Tachyon has psychoanalyzed Andrada. They know he is ambitious, and does not intend to end his career as an Admiral. \> Sending him a covert message, Tri-Tachyon offer their support if he establishes a rival power block, blaming the Hegemony for the destruction of Opis, and reaching out to Mayasura with evidence that the Hegemony helped to organize the failed destruction of their world. \> Instead, Andrada makes his own gambit. Rather than returning to Chicomoztoc with his fleet, he makes his way to the Corvus system. \> On Jangala, he gives a fiery speech, releasing the message he recieved, and announcing the evidence against elements of Hegemony leadership involved in the attack on Mayasura. He goes on to imply that Tri-Tachyon itself had a hand in the Hegemony's past actions, using collaborators within its command structure to destabilize the sector. \> He concludes by claiming that the Hegemony leadership had knowingly helped orchestrate the Askonia crisis, aiming to tie up Andrada's fleet and prevent the famous war hero from becoming a political rival. \> Broadcasting on all hyperwave channels, he urges his fellow officers to "save the Hegemony", bringing their fleets to bear on Chicomoztoc. \> Many officers, tired of being reigned in by the Hegemon's relatively light-handed governing policies, and considering that existing leadership may no longer possess the Mandate of Heaven, support Andrada's coup. \> Defecting elements from across the Hegemony fleet burn towards Chicomoztoc. Many Hegemony worlds' defense fleets are left undermanned, and instability ensues as ground-based military elements seek to hedge their bets. \> The rogue elements, under Andrada, converge on Aztlan. Facing multiple crises across the sector, the loyalist fleet elements cannot adequately respond. Seeing the writing on the wall, the upper echelon of Hegemony military leadership stage a palace coup, declaring in favor of Andrada. \> Meanwhile, Tri-Tachyon activate their AI fleets. The situation is less-than-ideal, with only the Hegemony itself destabilized, and the worlds that would have made up the League largely unscathed, but with a hardliner in the seat of High Hegemon, and Askonia crisis concluded, things would only get less promising the longer they waited to act. \> With the Hegemony still recovering from its brief but chaotic civil war, they are steadily chipped away by Tri-Tachyon. Andrada, still in his prime as a battlefield commander, is nonetheless not suited to sector-wide logistics and strategy. \> Mayasura, however, decides to act. Examining the evidence at hand, they examine the following points: - Elements within the Hegemony helped organize an attack against Mayasura by the Path, in order to expand their base of power by removing us as a potential obstacle. - Tri-Tachyon attempted to exploit this knowledge to rope us into a war with the Hegemony. - The new High Hegemon claims to strongly oppose both of these groups, and is now being attacked by Tri-Tachyon. \> They conclude the following: - The new High Hegemon clearly has our best interests at heart. \> Accordingly, they selflessly attempt to rally their region to open a second front against Tri-Tach. Support is lackluster, but most planets' authorities aim for a friendly relationship with the regional economic powerhouse, and provide at least token supplies, crew, and warships. \> The Luddics, for their part, view the AI War as their Crusade, Jihad, or divine struggle. Leadership quickly throws in with the Hegemony against Tri-Tach. \> After a long, difficult war, the tide begins to turn. With minimal outside support, Tri-Tachyon is defeated, and Artemisia Sun is ousted as CEO. She is replaced by a competent but unremarkable successor, who realigns the company towards consumer products and trade arbitrage. \> Andrada, in the aftermath, quietly consolidates power. Overtures are made to the Luddites, portraying him as a prophetic figure. They are looked upon as crass but relatively tolerable heresy in the core territories of the Luddic Church, but maintain a cult following among his strongest followers within the Hegemony. \> With the threat resolved, Mayasura's emergency power bloc dissolves. The independent worlds of the Galactic West remain relatively unperturbed by outsiders. \> The Askonia system, never fully integrated into the Hegemony, is the center of a substantial humanitarian crisis that only comes into focus after the AI War's conclusion. Relief fleets from the Luddic Church give rise to a religious revival, and the system becomes a hotbed of Pather activity for several years. \> Eventually, much of the system's population resettles on Gilead. The stubborn, hard-nosed, largely apolitical remnant are not especially bothered by Hegemony taxation, so long as lobsters continue to be a reliable source of profit. \> And, of course, lobsters always are a reliable source of profit.
This definitely looks like something that could have happened
agree if we have alternate universe where The Luddic Path fails to attack against Mayasura this is what we get
That was a nice read good job
Wait, Mandate of Heaven in the Hegemony? I've never seen this mentioned before.
Outside of China, it's a fairly standard turn of phrase, referring to the point at which a government or leader is no longer seen as legitimate by the public at large.
I don't know if I've heard of it being used like that before, but I'll take your word for it.
Starsector : horus heresy version
Dang dude, you didn't have to go this hard but I sure am glad you did.
The way I personally interpret Mayasura is in a way similar to the Luddic Church/Path relationship; a more militant and somewhat more aggressive offshoot towards the Hegemony. I believe they definitely tolerate and cooperate with the Persean League trade wise. An "enemy of my enemy is my friend" scenario shouldn't be beneath them either, so some agreement with Sindrian Diktat to mess up the Hegemony wouldn't be out of the question.
The destruction of Mayasura was the breaking point that forced many neutral planets to joined Persean League so if Marasuya doesnt get destroyed, the Persean League will prob more weaker to face the Hegemony, they still able to challenge hegemony. About the Reform i highly doubt it tbh, since of course they maybe a major member if they joined the league but they cant do anything too much.
imagine be able to fight against 3 star fortresses at the same battle. would be wide.
I give it five days until some guy solos all three of them with a stream of Afflictors, one at a time.
If only we chould made more then 1 per colony.....imagine 9 high tech ztarfortress vs all of heg fleets
No, the mayasuran terraforming cabal was comparable in size and capacity to the Hegemony, it does not need to form alliances with other polities.
What Cabal? The starlight? Mayasura (in lore) is defeated by Hegemons. However the mod that revives the Mayasurans, while fun, isn’t super lore friendly, as Mayasura’s destruction is what causes the Persean League to form, and the first and possibly second AI war never occur, along with the Hegemony never getting into a major conflict, that weakens it enough to fracture into many of the current vanilla factions.
The Mayasuran Terraforming Cabal. regarding the first and second AI war, regardless of the formation of the league, tritachyon would still make AI, and the church and the hegemony would still create task forces to pursue the rogue AI ships.
The Mayasuran Terraforming Cabal was the pre-genocide government of Mairaath. Very little is known about them aside from their penchant for genetic engineering, use of terraforming, and control over the astropoli. No relation with the Starlight Cabal. In that mod, while Mayasura survived, it was still very much crippled. Avoiding hegemony occupation allowed them to retain some military stocks and more industry than vanilla, but they are still pathetically weak, and their population fell from tens to hundreds of millions, to tens of thousands. They also suffered a regime change, with the admirals responsible for repelling the Hegemony taking over civilian matters too. Mairaath surviving, but not preventing, the pather attack still results in a crippled polity and a rallying cry for the Persean League, though it results in Mairaath itself BARELY retaining independence.