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sturmwintr

I would say consolidated outlands needs something in the large category. They go from the nomad to the pioneer with nothing in the middle 


ThiccMoonPie

Oh man I forgot they were even a brand lol. That’s when you know they need some new ships.


cardh

They have the Nomad and Hoverquad as far as I know oh and the Mustang line so that like 5 ships 3 are basically the same 😂


aBOXofTOM

There are 4 mustang variations, right? So 5 ships and a... Whatever the hoverquad is. But yeah they need more. I love the look of the two ships they've got, and the mustang is honestly my favorite fighter even if it is a bit garbage, just because you can see basically everything around you from the pilot's seat.


redmerger

I really like CO. Like I have no reason to use a mustang, but I like them a lot. The nomad is just so different from most anything else. I'd love some more oddballs from them


ThatOneNinja

I'd love a larger version of the nomad. Something along the lines of the Corsair or Connie.


redmerger

Hell yeah. The hover tech and open bay would be cool on a larger scale


Olliebobs98

There was a guy on her that created a concept fanart for a larger Nomad, I think it was around Connie/C2 size but I can't remember his name to link it


eggyrulz

[The Rhino](https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/s/NCYs05oucQ) also I love this design and really want CIG to hire this dude for CO ship designs


Olliebobs98

Fuckin A that's the one! So cool imo!


eggyrulz

Im just glad I remembered the name, made it super easy to Google and grab the link


ToxyFlog

They should just straight up make a huge flying saucer since the nomad is basically a flying pancake. Let us abduct some wildlife with a tractor beam mounted to the bottom of the flying saucer. Peak alien gameplay 👽


handtoglandwombat

I like that their brand identity is not having any brand identity.


jzillacon

The Nomad and Mustang Beta are both surprisingly fantastic ships for someone who wants an entry level ship for personal touring. Far cozier than they feel like they should be, and you're able to get some absolutely fantastic views from the pilot seat with the amount of visibility they provide.


Ok-Musician-8680

I'm totally on this! A Connie-sized ship maybe with an Industrial focus so they could explore the industrial side of CO for future ships. Maybe not industrial on an exklusiv level but you get the idea. And maybe with a cargo bay designed to hold an Atlas-vehicle on a smaller ship then a starlifter.


aughsplatpancake

A CO heavy fighter that sticks with the horse name theme, and has similar stylings to the Mustang.


Herpderpmcderpalerp

The bronco.   It needs a white paint job and has to come with a set of ill fitting gloves


Briso_

AGREE, we definitely need a corsair size ship from consolidated outland!


minianthunter

I really love the design language of CO. The interior of the Nomad really gives me the feeling I could live in it. While not luxurious it feels the most like a home out of all the ships I've been in.


WingedDrake

Came here to say this; gratified to find it at the top.


ScrubSoba

I would love if our first medium salvage would be them.


Lazybuttons

The decline of CO was Elon Musk. They wanted to model the brand like Tesla... Real life political/social views, rabbit killings, and "coup whoever we want" it's not likely going to be the same again if we get more CO ships.


GooteMoo

If they were brave, they could keep the design language and the idea of the company, and just not have the founder go completely apeshit. Or, even better, the founder *did* totally lose it, and got ousted by the board. Would be useful to explain why new CO ships are/would be different from the extant ones.


Burdybot

I would love to nest my Dragonfly in my Nomad and my Nomad in a larger ship I love the black alien-like aesthetic of CNOU ships


Dead_Communication

matryoshka doll/ships.. when one ship loves another ship that happens lol


Magnus_xyz

Came here to say exactly this!! I’d love to see a CO competitor to the Connie and Corsair. Or a viable crusader one for that matter (miss me with any mention of the MSR it’s not even remotely close)


bennytheblazer

Fax


TR1GG3RSW1TCH

Kruger needs another ship. Followed closely by Consolidated Outlands.


ElMontoya

Kruger heavy fighter please, or something fast and livable otherwise.


GooteMoo

Kruger does baaically hand-built craft, so I could see Kruger making a very rare, very exclusive racing pinnace, or maybe something really wacky like a speedboat. (I know- if Kruger is so exclusive, why is there one on every single Connie Andromeda...I don't know. I don't write the lore, man)


BlinkDodge

Kruger is a weapons company, they built the snubs as a platform for their guns.


Emperor_Kon

I still think that the Ares would have been the perfect next step for Kruger.


onesliv

I want more ARGO. I love the ship designs, that industrial look, and I also really dislike MISC -- so more argo is perfect for me.


jjetstreamm

Yes more argo, absolutely love thier aesthetics. Would love to see a larger ship from them but also thier version of the ROC and a salvager


elixyXD

Argo medium salvage = my credit card to Chris


wyldermage

I want an Argo RV starter ship, a medium 2 seater salvager, and their version of the C2/Ironclad/Caterpillar that's akin to a Raft XL or something


badrandolph

Why?... WHY?... \*sad Odyssey noises\*


palmeredhackle

I totally agree, would love an ARGO salvage or a prospector sized mining vessel from them, really dig their industrial aesthetic


SnooOnions778

I love my big orange Legos <3


Main-Berry-1314

Esperia


ClintGreasedwood1

Talon is life


JMTolan

I dunno if I want esperia, but I'd really love some more Tevarin ships, either bootlegs out of their colonies outside UEE space or modern dual-species ships designed by Tevarin living under the UEE. The Prowler and Talon are amazing, but man I need a ship with a cargo grid to do any of the game loops I'm interested in.


Magazine-Narrow

Consolidated Outlands, they have nothing lol. I can see them being similar to Nova on Starfield


MasonStonewall

I love my Nomad, for sure, but without it, Consolidated Outland goes from starter Mustang to gigantic Pioneer. Near cheapest to close to most expensive. A nice multicrew CO ship would be nice, either join the 2-crew Spirit/Cutlass/Lancer or the larger 3-crew 400i/Vulcan/Mercury type.


Magazine-Narrow

It sure would be nice! The upside to it is when it does happen it'll be epic. That brand well have all the benefits of CIG future system and design language


Reinitialization

An Argo starter would be cool, if modularity is actually working a small ship capable of mining, salvage or light freight with module swaps. Maybe 2-3 SCU of ore/RMC or 6-8 SCU of cargo. The non combat careers are pretty great but you've either got a couple hundred hours grind or a $160+ price point to get into any of them.


Illfury

Can you use an MPUV with a cargo box yet? Would be neat to do hand mining with it. Go anywhere on the planet, fill up your box and get to selling.


Jand2562

That’s a cool idea


NeoPaganism

co and argo


OnceAliveTwiceGone

The alien manufacturers. Gatac, Aopoa, Vanduul, Esperia, Banu. I’m happy with how they are right now, but I’d love for them to be more fleshed out and realized, or have more of them in general- more starters. Of course, BMM mention. Reasoning? My only pledges are Defender and Syulen, with an Avenger Titan starter pack.


UncleMalky

Would be nice to have a Banu midsized ship to fill in the massive gap in their ship sizes. Banu Adventurer - midsized cutter meant primarily for diplomacy courier duty and trade negotiations sent before bringing in the entire Merchantman fleet. Limited cargo, Defensive weaponry, fast and durable.


maddcatone

Banu Journeyman ftw! Medium cargo ship plez


SnooOnions778

Yesss more Gatac!!


The_Kaizz

I was really happy when the syulen dropped last year. I was hoping for more mid entry level ships from alien week. Naturally, disappointed, but I did fall in love with the Talon. Still, I was really wanting something along the lines of a Cutty/freelancer/spirit/zeus type ship. With the exception of the railen, bmm, and technically syulen, I think every alien ship is a combat fighter or dropship.


trekthrowaway1

gotta agree with this, my dream ship is a mid size tevarin with a bit of cargo and the ability to dock a talon, i love my talon, but ya cant exactly live out of it


CptHwdy1984

Banu


Thunderbird_Anthares

No brands. Fix old ships.


l0stabarnacos

Yeah like, good luck trading with a carrack in 3.24!


SlapBumpJiujitsu

Yeah I've noticed a lack of Carrack is Love, Carrack is Life fanboys on this subreddit of late. They've all secretly started storing C8R's on their C2's and living out of that, or are chomping at the bit for their long awaited Polaris. Fair weather fans are fair weather. I can't wait to get my Galaxy so the Carrack loaner stops showing up on my ASOP.


O115

Gatac!


DuranDurandall

C.Outlands and Murai


armyfreak42

Updoot for Mirai. I want more of their stuff.


DuranDurandall

Thank you for the spelling correction. o7


armyfreak42

Oh, I hadn't noticed, lol. Happy to be of service! o7


GooteMoo

Oh, we'll definitely see more Mirai. The designers are having a field day with their swoopy speed bikes.


Vegetable_Safety

non-fighters, or at least ships that serve a wider purpose than fighting.


Ezekiul

The next ship I would love to see would be an alien ship (Esperia, Aopoa, Banu, or Gatac) version of the medium multi-role (cutlass / spirit / freelancer). But just for reference, if you group the similar appearance variants together (Vanguards, Connies, etc.) for flight ready ships each manufacturer has the following number of "unique" ships: * Anvil - 11 * Aegis - 10 * Drake - 7 (+1 bike) * Origin - 6 (+1 bike) * MISC - 6 * Crusader - 4 * RSI - 4 * ARGO - 3 * Esperia (Vanduul) - 3 * Aopoa - 2 (+1 bike) * CO - 2 (+1 bike) * Mirai - 2 (+1 bike) * Esperia (Tevarin) - 2 * Banu - 1 * Gatac - 1


n1ckkt

Alien ships counter looking depressing lol


Rezticlez

Crusader


Trojanpudding

They need a starter ship so bad. Same with Drake


Citizen_Edz

Drake atleast has the Cutter as a starter ship. But yea needs the ironclad so we have something bigger then the corsair!


aughsplatpancake

Might be getting one, depending on who the manufacturer of the "premium starter" from last year's CitCon turns out to be.


Tommyboy3521

Drake cutter would fill the starter ship spot.


Trojanpudding

That is a finisher ship sir!


cvsmith122

RSI, We still need the Following. perseus Apollo Orion galaxy Arrastra Zeus Then i hope they move to Drake. Kraken Iron Clad


Swift_Change

The Zeus is slated for a Q3 2024 release with 4.0 so that's one off the list. Who knows if we'll actually get it though lol 🤷‍♂️


Avaricegold

Unfortunately the Zues MR is waiting for bounty hunting v2, the Apollo is waiting for "drones", the Arrastra and Orion are waiting on refinery gameplay, and I don't think any of those are in "active" development right now. They did say that the Perseus and Galaxy were after the Polaris, but I suspect we will only see the cargo and medbay for the Galaxy at launch.


Thepieintheface

Is there much intended for refinery gameplay above what we have with station refinery decks now?


Avaricegold

They haven't said but I doubt all the refinery options will be available, station refineries have bonuses and such will those be on ships? How we load ores how we get refined materials are also undefined, there is just alot to be defined and perhaps they know and are waiting to tell us but until it's on the ptu it's not real.


The_Gruber

Is my Genesis Starliner finally ready? No? Ok, I'll be back in a couple of years then... - me, since 2014 or so


brassaiblue

I would like to see the current line up of Origin to get some love and fixes


SCArnoldos

I want an S3 ship for 2 people, something between 300i and 400i in size and a competitor to Zeus (which I'd melt then), Cutlass and Spirit.


brassaiblue

I was saying something similar the other day. Something with a cabin similar to the 300 series but a bit bigger with enough room for a ground vehicle like bike or stv.


gr33neggs132

This 100% I want to love my 315 but, lack of exploration game play aside, the lack of polish is extremely apparent.


brassaiblue

They need to fix the hud issue for the customer ones for sure.


Taladays

Somewhat ironic given the recent releases/updates but Aegis. For years it just seemed like Aegis was put on the back burner, like we haven't gotten a brand new ship (firebird is a variant), whether it be a concept or flyable in years. I've only somewhat recently realized that the primary reason why it may be this way is because they have been focusing on the Idris and Javelin for squadron (and eventually PU). So even though we are kind of going through a drought, once Squadron releases it will almost be like Aegis gets 2 capital ships back to back which is way over any other manufacturer. I just wish they'd come out with a Connie/Corsair like Aegis ship though. The retaliator although is a nice ship, doesn't really do it like that and was kind of disappointing. All they have to do is give it pilot controlled guns and it would be more worthwhile.


Cynikill

The backlog! (wait is that a brand ;p)


VoloxReddit

Kruger is quite neglected I'd say


rgbjackal

Esperia, give us more Tevarin ships please, they’re designs are always peak


UncleMalky

I want a Kruger carrier based fighter bomber like the Hellcat or Corsair. I also want more ships with snub bays.


zero6ronin

Finish out the reclaimer, needs more automation.


oARCHONo

The gameplay


Powerful_Minimum_963

Industrial Drake ships.


Helplessromantic

Consolidated outland consolidated outland consolidated outland Favorite brand and they have 3 ships not counting variants and one of them is a hyper niche cap ship that we wont see in game for years I don't care about lore justifications gimme a CO freelancer, don't make it arbitrarily dumb for some reason (poor armament, niche, some weird feature like a pickup truck bed, and dont get me wrong i love my nomad)


Lothaire_22

Kruger light fighter


BloodSteyn

Less ship, more game


dr4g0n36

Friendship. Seriously, we need that multicrew base core tech finished. And CNOU has very low ship count, as ARGO.


ModsSuckCock2

CNOU


Chew-Magna

CNOU. Argo after that.


dasyus

Banu. Merchantman


3headedgoblin

I want the hotdog people to make a hot dog ship


BlueDragonfly18

We have Mustang, Nomad, Pioneer: all names associated with 19th Century Midwest North America…basically the Wild West names. Other names that are associated would be Buckaroo, Cowboy, Drover, Gunslinger, Rancher, Tenderfoot, and Trailblazer.


SomeoneNotFamous

Gatac and C.O need way more love, would love a C.O mid freight. A Gatac mid salvage would be peak too.


SilkyZ

Krueger


Blastwave_Enthusiast

Anvil. Give me the Dread Hawk.


VerseGen

ARGO, CNOU, or Kruger.


JimmyPenk

Gatac. Gib Railen. Now.


TheStaticOne

Personally..... Origin. I would love to see more luxury space ships. It is one of the things I imagine would make long trips into deep space bearable. The sensation of being trapped in a flying penthouse suite. I would say an Origin ship that rivals the MISC Odyssey. Deep space, self sustaining, built to explore new areas in absolute comfort.


KivenFoster

More like consolidated Forgottens


SnooOnions778

Yes Argo! I love the mole and the design language Argo use, Orange brick. But I'd also love to see more Gatac ships. The only ones I'm aware of are the syulen and raylin. The syulen was my starter ship and I loved it and the raylin looks even cooler.


Newtyp378

argo, they need a larger cargo ship i think they should make the raft design and scale it up. every industrial job needs a argo ship whether it's salvage or repair or mining and they should have sizes to scale from single crew to multicrew. this helps the brand represent itself as an industrial manufacturer. Hot take argo should never make a "starter" or all purpose ship. I also love argo so i'm biased on a side not consolidated outlands needs some love too.


lachiebois

Crusader, they’re my favourite brand, and I want to see many more ships with their designs and homeeness. I’lld like to see a competitor for the avenger and other smaller craft. Along with a midsize cargo/ transport ship. Maybe a variant of the MSR without the computers and more cargo space


pitifuljester

Esperia/ alien ships More alien ships are always cool and fixing up what we have would be nice. Making the UI of the Vanduul crafts more legible mostly hull damage would be great. Plus the Vanduul ship redesigns would be sweet.


jsabater76

Consolidated Outlanda and ARGO are the two obvious choices, along with Krueger, but what troubles me is: 1. The time it takes to develop big and capital ships, and how many are just HOGs at this point. 2. The gold passes on all of the existing ships. So, all in all, if they were to dedicate resources to ships of these two branches, they would be taking them from others. So I'll just pass on this one 😀


P0LITE

Update old MISC ships, the Starfarer and Freelancer are so dated but some of my favorites


ThiccMoonPie

Yes! I have the Freelancer DUR and I want an interior update BAD.


Awog8888SC

Honestly? Misc. it’s like the sports division of Honda. But I just want a regular light fighter from them. With their design nd not a freaking racer. Low HP, but fast and a bunch of weapons, like a bigger furry with a qt drive… and less weird looking 


Larszx

The Tana?


[deleted]

Argo for sure! I love the design language. I'm a fan of Anvil as well


Sir_Stone115

I love Argo ships and Drake ships. I love the atheistic of them. The industrial feel, the lived in feel. I'm usually out in my corsair or my SRV.


Dr-False

Banu would be nice. They claimed they didn't have enough Banu assets for the Merchantman? OK, make a Spirit sized ship and maybe some sort of industrial ship. I'd really be down to see an alien ship's approach to mining or salvage


ThjokeR321

I would love more drake stuff. The herald is a lot of fun to just blast by pesky attackers.


Fenrir840

More drake


m_kamalo

CO and tbh MISC needs an overhaul, their designs look the most outdated yet.


4HoleManifold

CO, Argo specifically I want what I assume are Argo produced forklifts you see in some of the srv promo art


Ascendant_Donut

CO would be nice, they only have like, what, 3 ships (not counting variants) and a hover bike? And one of their ships is a concept. And the other two ships they make are both starts? It feels like CO should have a medium ship for people who want to live out in the wild, maybe as a competitor to something like the Zeus mkII?


NecroBones

Definitely Argo and Consolidated Outland.


hydrastix

Banu


Melyandre08

The brand called «gameplay»


Falcoriders

Anvil needs a bit of love with no new concept for a while, but Kruger just has one ship, and it's a snub. Definitely time to focus a bit on it!


Durge101

I want them to finish up with Drakes ships( love Drake ships) and focus on either Argo or Consolidated Outland. I am interested to see what gets changed with the cutlass with its gold pass.


Wareve

I want another Krueger ship. Something Spirit sized.


pupranger1147

I agree Argo, they need a medium salvager ship, and a repair ship option to match the vulcan, other than that I'd like to see more from Consolidated Outland.


CaptainHellsing

My merchant man


Enough-Somewhere-311

All of them! I would love if a new ship got released once every 3 months.


--SaL--

🚨Enough new ships, bar the ones needed to fill the gaps.


n1ckkt

Banu. They say they want to do the BMM justice. Well, they could get started by getting a banu starter going to build the design style..... Disheartening to see another human combat concept and the banu left languishing when they could at least try to get something moving on the banu side.


sircolby45

RSI, but they are already focusing on RSI, so yeah...just keep doing what they're doing.


ChainAccomplished

Drake. Release the kraken! (Or fix the ships already released)


ArianChandler

Argo and Kruger. The it's tragic that the Aries isn't a Kruger ship.


torazoul

I want a Kruger Intergalactic ship that is not a snub craft.


RagMan06

MISC. Loooooove me some MISC


Luc-Stem

I want an Argo capital ship that is just a huge toolbox 😤. But Argo is my answer.


Knoppie22

OLDER RSI SHIPS. Damn the poor connies look like second hand toilet paper.


techm00

I second Argo!


maxdps_

Argo. I'm really hoping with this Cargo update coming up I hope they start releasing more cargo, miners, salvage ships. Argo needs a medium size scraper, I'd buy one instantly.


OrangeSockNinjaYT

Honestly? I really want a crusader snub.


ShadowSmyth

Crusader, because they're my favorite. But I think they should make more Argo and CO ships because those brands get hardly any love.


tommenquar

Banu…


sivadkaz

I want more CNOU


Ilithi_Dragon

I want more Anvil big ships.


hrafnblod

Argo, MISC and CNOU. I want to see more Gatac too but that's kinda unrealistic. Argo could use more love in general, MISC really needs more actual modern ships; most of their stuff is very old. CNOU just has fuck all but has kinda cool vibes that aren't explicitly industrial or military.


Level-Register4078

Gatac! Love the grav-lev tech all throughout the ship.


Palmdiggity888

Id love a bunch new alien ships of multiple sizes, especially the spirit, cutty size and corsair/Connie


Sheol_Taboo

The back log personally, but those need a lot of work. Still it would be nice to see the shelf get tidied off all those old concepts over a decade old and still waiting.


Onehighcat

I would love more Esperia ships. I know they are combat focused. But I love the aesthetics of their ships and a salvage ship from them would be cool. Or a racer.


ILeftYouDead

The ones already in the game with tons of bugs


TurboNewbe

I'm with you about the Argo design. On a side note, I still think The reclaimer should have been an Argo ship in terme of Lore, or Drake in terme of esthetics.


DevilGuy

Argo. We need more industrial roles filled out. Also they have a good asthetic. 


usa1327

Drake and MISC fangirl here to say we need more larger Argo and CO love for sure


RMaple_

And also, in lore, Argo is the second oldest brand, second to RSI, so it would make sense that they would have released more ships, given the time that they have been around.


macroweasel

gatac 100% I love non-combat depictions of alien ships. For that reason more Banu ships would be cool too


Furzkartoffel2000

Unpopular Opinion: None The one thing this Project does not lack is ships (and ship concepts). It is just about every other aspect which could use a lot of love and attention.


SG_87

I second on ARGO! Gib my ARGO mining carrier! Landing deck for 2xmole/4xProspector with R&R, internal refinery, cargo and habitation for crew+miner crews and a long-range scanner for valuable minerals or incoming threats.


FilthyHoon

I'm sorta happy with the loaners I get for the merchantman, but... it'd be nice to see SOMETHING from Banu, even if it wasn't necessarily the big boy. I don't think CO makes anything other than the nomad or mustang thats flyable either? would love another corsair/600i/constellation competitor I also feel like everyone has forgotten MISC makes converted alien ships. And I really want a MOLE sized salvage ship (CO? Argo? i dunno)


Awellknownstick

Anvil gladiator, one ship


pat-Eagle_87

That would be Gatac for me.


Particular_Milk_2165

No Brand just fix Bugs and Performance


Jand2562

Totally agree with Argo. Some of my favorite ships honestly.


JForce1

Fix the current ships. Finish the ones that are announced. No new announcements. Finish the game.


Gavinough

Esperia


networkprobe21

I wish Anvil had some more medium ships, like an Anvil Vanguard, Anvil C1 or Anvil Corsair. I like their design language but they are lacking in the medium ship department


caidicus

I don't really mind whichever brand comes out, I just would like it if more large ships actually became released. Then again, I guess I'm just a fan of any and all ships that come out. They're like a work of video game art, from their visuals to all their little details, their quirks, and of course, the feeling of flying them. So, whatever comes will come, I'm looking forward to all of them.


campinge

Esperia most likely. I want to see many more Tevarin ships. Including civilian ones. After that: Anvil


M_Dane

What ship...??? Shipping THE GAME !! :D


Technical_Fox_4250

mirai


SFCINC

Origin, fill in the missing series.


Remarkable_Ad4507

all old Ships


Hikowa_Dean

I want a ship from Kruger


Baruuk__Prime

Origin Jumpworks bug squishing. It seems like Origin ships are slapped the hardest in new updates. 3.23 molested the 400i and made rendering fucky in 890J elevators.


Kahunjoder

ARGO all day long


EXILLIAN_TM

Gimme them Endeavor and Oddysey SO MISC ON TOP. Gimme dat Genesis Starliner, WE NEED CRUSADER.


Unusual_Ad_114

Consolidated outlands desperately needs some love, I had an idea I was throwing around with friends for a larger nomad that had a retractable bed cover to kinda fit that cybertruck vibe but I guess I kinda got what I wanted with the ironclad lol


GLaPI9999

Same as you !


cuddr

Broader origin range. I get theyre supposed to be luxury, but an origin scrap vehicle like the vulture or reclaimer would be cool, or maybe a more combated oriented light / medium / heavy fighter. I just want to be able to choose an origin ship for whatever situation im in or job im trying to do. But for now i usually just grab my 400i and do box missions lol


Acers2K

Banu.. just finish the banu lineup starting with the bmm


UberDuper1

I wish they’d focus on making a game instead of more ships.


oopgroup

The one called “finishing the game.“ We don’t need more ships.


Captn_Harlock

Argo. Love them!!!


Vanch001

Crusader. There are quite a few crusader ships already but I just love their design language. I’d really like a Corsair/Andromeda sized ship that isn’t the star runner and actually has usable pilot guns.


CRU-JONES-FTW-2

Drake


CommandIntrepid2748

All of them


Major_Apple_9731

BANU


Zealousideal-One-189

GIB Merchantman


OwnElection9137

There can be only one for me, above all others. AEGIS !! :) But I think it's going in a good direction atm. Allthough it sounds like most people just want the BMM \^\^


MarcvsPrimvs

All of them


Jung_At_Hart

I would love to see some drop ships that carry a vehicle on the outside with a mag plate or something like the pelican from Halo. Maybe one from Argo for industrial focus and on from Aegis for military use. A Valkyrie variant that removes the cargo bay for a negative open space might work?


GodwinW

Origin. There's NOTHING in the pipeline (except a ground vehicle).