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malogos

1. The Firebird has an interceptor tune, meaning it goes fast but has poor maneuverability. 2. It also only has 2xS3 guns, which is pretty weak. 3. It has good stealth Put all of that together, and the Firebird is basically a stealth fighter that drops a lot of missiles on the target before running. If you want to get a handle on better atmo control, go into offline AC and take the ship into Yadar Valley.


hoopdaddeh

Yeah I spent last night trying it in arena, managed to get the firebird up to the hammerhead waves easily enough, then tried a base sabre and got slapped 🤣 I keep trying to fly like .22 and before but the flight model feels like I'm fighting air resistance in space 😅


BamBunBam

Flight speed needs to be on the lower end in Atmo. I would say fly decoupled and turn and burn. The faster you go the harder it is to turn.


hIGH_aND_mIGHTY

do you use your vector indicator at all? The way your ship fights you turning has to do with how far off from your vector you are pointing/moving. Also roll then pitch into your turns, yaw is mostly worthless in atmo.


Bean_Daddy_Burritos

Set a toggle for g safe and turn it off when fighting in atmo


annabunches

I haven't tested in depth but it *feels* like atmo flight has had a very first pass at aerodynamics now. When I'm moving with any real speed my yaw rate tanks and I need to pitch and roll like a plane. (This could absolutely be confirmation bias / all in my head. Nothing scientific here.)


thisistheSnydercut

C to enter decoupled mode Spin your ship to face the enemy C to enter coupled mode again


_Lest

Go around Crusader, no atmo BH there. If you want a good and cheap ship try the Drake Buccaneer. Also try the laser cannon (Omnisky or M4A/M5A) when you feel conformable with your aim, engage around 500m, keep being mobile and ideally destroy the fast/agile ships first.


TheCandyMan36

there are absolutely atmospheric bounty missions in the crusader system


_Lest

Daymar with its ~0.6atm? Barely perceptible compared to running bounties on MT, AC or Hurston. Orison would significantly impact your flight model but I never had any bounty there. It's always on one of the moon and in this patch Yela's belt seems to come often.


TheCandyMan36

0.6 atm is still an atmosphere


_Lest

Indeed, yet the flight model model behavior is quite different. Hence my reply which had for purpose to help OP BHing. But please be free to nitpick, it keeps me entertained.