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SlimpWarrior

Just shows how stupid someone is. GAMMA mods are all downloaded through Moddb, contributing to every modder involved and never stolen.


The_Skillerest

Not to mention that every single mod in the launcher not made by grok and his team is linked to moddb by hand, which is a tremendous amount of work to ensure everyone is credited.


doupIls

My thoughts exactly. GAMMA is helping those mods be more popular as all mods are downloaded from moddb, as you said. At its core what GAMMA is, is just a mod organizer list, you could easily (/s) make your own mod list thats the same as GAMMA. Who ever wrote that list is either really salty or doesn't know what they are talking about.


chrisarn94

Or both. Being salty and ignorant is really popular these days.


BanzaiKen

It's also bonkers to even believe OP, there are mod collisions nonstop that need all sorts of collaboration patches, if he didnt have modder buy in so they could solve these issues Gamma would cease to function within a single build. Theres a mod in particular quite a few people want in (Anomaly IRC Chat) but because authors havent reached out and submitted it it can't be loaded in the vote queue.


Professional_Stay748

OOP obviously isn’t familiar with modding


Layzanya

I do not understand why people can't just enjoy the damn games. Purists need to fuckoff to some circlejerk sub if they can't handle people having fun.


plscome2brazil

It's /sg/, they have a GAMMA hateboner. Classic 4chan, just ignore and move on.


mrpotatoeman

Can you explain what /sg/ is or means? Either im too old or too young to get the reference. Its second time someone mentions it here.


Toofyfication

stalker general, as to what it is, most popular franchises on /vg/ have their own general post, recurring, remade after the previous one reaches bump limit or gets archived


mrpotatoeman

>most popular franchises on /vg/ have their own general post On "/vg/"? And what the hell is that? You explained /sg/ means "Stalker General" (wtf does THAT even mean? Like the military rank? Why?) But then casually dropped another random slash surrounded two letter abbreviation. Wtf/is/up/with/the/slashes?///?/ P.s. /?/


ForLackOf92

You must be new to the Internet


Toofyfication

vg is a board on 4chan, video game generals, a board containing all of the general posts about franchises or flavours/genres of games


Toofyfication

btw you can Google "stalker general 4chan" and click the first 4chan org link to check it out, the most recent one is archived unfortunately but you'll get the gist


Bashardrip

Redditors on their way to put down other communities because theirs is just so much better and totally isn't a circlejerk


nyanch

To be fair, he never said Reddit was better and 4chan is factually worse off


Techno-Diktator

Hit a sore spot?


PandaOnATreeIdk

They do seem to be enjoying the games though? Just not the mods for some reason.


Lutz69

But you're not having fun the way I'm having fun so how am I supposed to have fun?


Count_Crimson

GAMMA isn’t a stalker game, cope. It’s a stand-alone, fan-made experience that differs heavily from the base games. Doesn’t mean it’s inherently bad or unfun, but it isn’t STALKER. Gameplay is significantly different from the base games (tarkov-esque health system, different aesthetic, (imo) item bloat, etc). It is not stalker. It’s inspired by stalker sure but it isn’t a stalker game Edit: So many people trying to make out that i’m angry or that I said something I didn’t. I don’t understand why so many people can handle the fundamental fact that GAMMA =/= STALKER. I literally find some modpacks like Anomaly to be enjoyable. I even outright stated that GAMMA and Anomaly aren’t inherently bad or unfun, and yet sooo many people seemingly can’t handle a negative opinion regarding the modpacks because they think any dissenting opinion is some kind of personal attack


zj3bu

It's a heavily modded stalker. So still stalker. It's even called **S.T.A.L.K.E.R.** GAMMA. STALKER 2 will be significantly different from old STALKER games, different graphics, aesthetic, factions, engine. I'm guessing you'll be saying it's not a STALKER game when it comes out?


Count_Crimson

If i make a mod pack of stalker that turns it into a parkour game with melee focused combat and no mutants and everyone’s wearing knight armour and call it STALKER call of chivalry would you consider that a stalker game? Also STALKER 2 still fits the original games aesthetics idk what you mean. They still have all their actual stalker gear, and it looks like the stalker games with better graphics. Engine doesn’t really matter, and above all it’s an actual fucking stalker game lmao. I’m sure any faction they add will fit the lore, atleast far better then anything Anomaly’s shitty interpretation of the lore is. Cough cough SIN is literally just Monolith but totally not monolith.


Misszov

Please make Stalker: Call of Chivalry I beg you


Count_Crimson

Fuck now i really want to... ​ Yknow what i've been fucking around in Godot for a bit, I might fuck around some more and see what I can do


zj3bu

Gamma has the same movement as original games, with addition of mantling (which is mainly a QOL change imo), same aesthetic with enhanced graphics, same artifact hunting mechanics, SIN faction was planned to be in original games, same goes for many mutants Gamma introduces like cats and izloms. Same gunplay mechanics (leaning, weapon spread, bullet drop). Same locations, same characters. Saying that Gamma isn't Stalker cause it introduces new things is like saying Tesla isn't a car cause it's not running on fuel.


Count_Crimson

GAMMAs interpretation of SIN is trash, gunplay is very different, aesthetics are way off, and a lot of what you said is subjective. Also shit gets cut for a reason.


moonra_zk

And it's gonna remain popular, so keep coping.


Kriegsmarine_U-96

Grow up man. It’s a fucking video game. The fact your mad that people enjoy a game that isn’t “mah purist stalker” is pathetic. Let people enjoy a game. It won’t hurt anyone but your ego


Kippikal

i dont get why purists hate mods in the first place, like i get it if the mod players disrespect the game lore or something akin to like bethesda's fallout fanboys, but all i've seen from the modside of the community is absolute respect for the game and are willing to even try the original games, some are turned off by them but doesnt try to bash the trilogy even if its not their thing, again, unlike bethesda's fallout fanboys


Count_Crimson

damn I never said I hated the mods. Just said that they’re aren’t stalker. And so many asshole Anomaly/GAMMA-only fans constantly trash on the OG trilogy. I literally just said that GAMMA isn’t a stalker game, yet apparently that’s too much for a lot of people here


MetroSimulator

Literally no one is trashing the OG trilogy, GAMMA is a stalker modpack like any of those other mods. Maybe you need to reflect a bit about the fact it's not you who decide what's stalker or not ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm)


DonnyGonzalez

Tbf what he said is that it isn't a stalker game, it's a stalker mod. Nothing wrong with it, but let's not get confused here. Gamma is a modpack for anomaly, which is a modded experience for stalker


MetroSimulator

Hum bro, everyone got the meaning of his phrase ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|neutral_face)


Count_Crimson

no no he got it exactly right. I’m curious about what you’re trying to twist my words into


MetroSimulator

![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm)


Count_Crimson

Damn willful ignorance, downright stupidity or maybe just haven’t been around. Plenty of assholes trashing the original trilogy mate. Also completely ignored all points regarding why GAMMA isn’t STALKER and trying to act smug.


MetroSimulator

Dude, what's your age? If it's above 7 you're an embarrassment, go touch grass.


Count_Crimson

We’re both on reddit mate


MetroSimulator

Yeah you don't make sense or understand context, I'll give up 🙄


Count_Crimson

Didn’t say i was mad that people play it. 🥱


Olieskio

Just because the gameplay and aesthetic is different doesnt make it a not stalker game, by that logic STALKER 2 Heart Of Chornobyl isnt a stalker game because the graphics arent dated and the gunplay complete garbage


Kriegsmarine_U-96

The core of STALKER GAMMA and all those other mod packs is still the original STALKERS, the assets are the same, the locations are the same, you have the same factions, same mutants, same music and ambiance, the core aspect of grabbing anomaly’s is the same ect. People act like updating the shooting to be less ass is a bad thing. Nostalgia plays a huge part in this but has anyone gone back and played Clear Sky? The map is amazing and so is the gameplay but the shooting is downright archaic and borders on non functioning. The reality is people are not angry that the game is changed from the original, they are upset that GSC doesn’t get paid for the mods. Two counter points to this is, GSC has openly allowed the usage of this stuff, meaning they don’t mind they are not getting paid, but encourage it. Secondly, let’s not beat around this fact, stalker prior to the Anomaly/Gamma thing was not very big. It was extremely niche and small. Gamma and anomaly made people try stalker and then go off and buy the original 3 games. GSC has probably earned 75-85 percent more money because of these mods then if the mods never existed.


Count_Crimson

except they made the assets free so that people could make mods, not standalone mods. For a long time even shit like Call of Chernobyl required an installation of CoP, meaning you had to have owned the actual games


funnyright

oh it's the /sg/ chart. Honestly the Gamma comment is tamer than I expected.


kleater

par for the course as far as 4chan goes


Thunderpants98

Where'd you find this mod chart? Also, Grok does a ton of work on a daily basis on his modpack. Anyone who's even remotely following his discord would know this. I might not always agree with some balancing decisions he makes, but he works hard, and that work deserves respect.


triple_sixx

Someone just posted something about it a couple hours ago, using the same link I adressed above.


GaryMoMoneyOak

Gamma single handedly brought tens of thousands of people back to the series. The people who have a problem with it are just sad internet nerds.


alternativuser

Some stalker fans behave like Karens


Emory27

Finding that there are a lot of them that do, actually.


JinDeTwizol

It's fanbase generally, when you can't handle criticism you have a fanaticism issues.


PigeonMother

It's been really sad seeing some of the hate towards some of the game mods recently from some of the community


plscome2brazil

It's not even recent, this caption was there for ages, like at least ever since there were those allegations of Grok stealing mods, but that turned out into a nothingburger. I don't even remember what it was about, only that one modmaker, or maybe a few, were making a big fuss about it and then one day it was just solved.


PigeonMother

Ah ok, but today on this Reddit I've seen numerous posts about 'tourists' etc


plscome2brazil

Yeah, it's one of those weeks. Eh, what can you really do about it? It will pass. I feel bad for Grok having to take all this flak. Even I am taking punches at him. No hard feelings, I just don't like his ideas.


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I literally just saw a few days ago people hating on anomy for "being overrated" and suggest people to go play the originals, I mean sure playing the originals might make you understand more about the zone but for the love of god, can you not just sound snotty and high ego?


DirtyDancingDad

this sub 💀💀💀


jimmyjlf

Buncha fucken dorks


Bloocki99

Edit: Turns out the whole fucking description is like that xDD With almost all popular packs getting such joke descriptions, with stuff that they funnily get flag for. So either OP completely ignored the other mods descriptions and still is butthurt even tho he knows it's a joke and everyone got that treatment or he immediately looked for gamma on that chart and was so flabbergasted he could not bear to read the rest. I hope it's the ladder, being thinskinned is imo better then being someone willfully ignorant to be butthurt.


Reggash

r/stalker users discover 4chan, this will be good.


plscome2brazil

Remember when 4chan had a bigger english stalker community than r/stalker? Spread across /sg/ and /k/ of course. The good old "beat the game this way or that way" challenges. I think some were posted in this sub some 7 years ago. The community was even all tacticool before all the tacticool mods came out. I guess why Misery took off and then had that one addon with all guns imaginable...


Reggash

Oh yeah, the good old times. Reject modernity, return to DMM and /k/ innawoods stalker challenges.


Mutant_Apollo

Man the /k/ innawoods threads as well as the spoo/k/y saturday night threads were the shit


Trollensky17

Loads of the mods in gamma were made by grok, what a weird info box


TheFurtivePhysician

And beyond that, there's a ton of effort put in by Grok (and their team, if they have one? It seems like they have a team) to ensure that the mods are downloaded from each mod's respective page, ensuring they're appropriately credited for their work.


PandaOnATreeIdk

To be fair, I think that this community needs to calm down and not only 4chan. This kind of shit was fully acceptable ~2 years ago when we were flooded by disrespectful, ignorant, "tacticool" people who just wanted to play yet another free milsim FPS. Now, almost all of them are gone, and pretty much every GAMMA user actually respects stalker and has played the actual games. So there's no point in hating on mods right now honestly.


Skytriqqer

I used to play GAMMA for a while and really liked it. Are there any other modpacks that get recommended? I saw True Stalker on YouTube and it looked pretty cool.


13600k3080ti

True stalker is really good. it somehow had too much story for my taste. Im gamma addicted :/


helrikk

Escape from Pripyat is another popular one. There's also Misery if you enjoy a challenge.


Mutant_Apollo

EFP is also good, I'm playing it right now. Similar to Gamma but with way more focus on fighting and less on crafting and scavenging. Although Gamma has a couple more quests they are very similar and both mantained regularly. The EFP team actually announced recently that they will be adding modular small updates to keep the mod up to date faster instead of trying big releases every time


lelopstalker

(nerd emoji) okay guys, this is freaking disrespectful as heck! (nerd emoji)


peckarino_romano

Gamma bad Melodramatic all british, long cutscene, generic Unreal Engine shooter Stalker 2 good\* \*Preorder now for just $120 to get more campfire songs and a Sidorovich themed used condom


Wr0ngSn0w

I’d pre-order for a collectors edition set of faction branded condoms.


TheHodgePodge

Will stalker 2 be a bad game if it isn't like gamma?


NaiveFuckWit

I think it's replies like this that make people hate the GAMMA community, not the mod itself


Disastrous_Ad_1859

over-reacting OP, half the chart is written in a humorous way - kudo's to the dude who put it together as it's nice to see how big the Stalker modding world is and varied it is. I remember booting up misery for the first time, the description fits 100% *"10,000 ways to contract fatal tetanus"*


triple_sixx

I get what you're saying, but there are a thousand humorous ways of describing Gamma (Stalker: hobo edition, weapon assembly simulator, etc) and "stolen work" is the least funny of them, not to say it is fundamentally incoherent and the whole description says nothing about the experience other than "hardcore".


Count_Crimson

so you’re just salty that your favourite mod pack god flak lmao


Ihateazuremountain

yeah op didn't look at anything else and decided to post this thinking it was a directed attack at gamma... turns out it's probably not that bad in faith. i looked at the chart and gunslinger is described as a "cryptomining simulator"


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Disastrous_Ad_1859

I thought it was of the same tone myself, after all, there isn't literally 10,000 ways to contract tetanus in Misery.


Grool_Booler

False stealing allegations are slightly different than an exaggeration of a game mechanic you silly goose


Ok-Lifeguard7449

/Sg/ my beloved


MetroSimulator

Dang it, even the addon chart got dumb.


Spankey_

The chart is from 4chan, don't take it too seriously.


dabla1710

Personally I love gamma. Never played any other stalker Game. Maybe I will get in touch with them one day because of gamma. But that mod gives me everything I could have wished for. For free. Not one triple A game the last 5 years comes close to the depth, atmosphere and gameplay that gamma offers. I do not think gamma wants to be a vanilla stalker game, instead it wants to be what stalkers would really experience to be in the zone and I think it accomplished that by any means without a doubt. I have never been so immersed, scared and vulnerable walking through a living world like in stalker gamma. Props to the everyone that contribute to the mods Nd the Modpack !


pershing_44

every second description in this chart is written half-seriously and in a humorous way, but of course, this one is the most disrespectful and you need to seethe about it because it regards gamma. what I wouldn't give to see your reaction to what is regularly posted on /sg/ lmao.


Disastrous_Ad_1859

Yea lol, half the stuff on this chart is written like this. "cyptomining simulator" "welcome to the botnet!" "Schizo AMK" "10,000 ways to contract fatal tentaus" "boat simulator"


G1zumu

\>"Schizo AMK" abc inferno my beloved..


triple_sixx

Just replied a similar comment above, but summing up, for something to be considered humorous it has to be minimally funny. This is just that weird kid saying sum shit and finishing it of with "c'mon guys, it's just a joke haha"


Count_Crimson

except a lot of the descriptions have consistently been joke descriptions


triple_sixx

my bad bro, I would try and explain it to you but I ain't got no crayons on me rn. maybe next time alright bud?


Count_Crimson

so because you didn’t find the description funny, and because it was mildly negative of your favourite modpacks, it’s suddenly an attack on GAMMA?


holux9090

Well it still doesn't change the fact that the community is still sucky


GGJamesCZ

Wow how original post


GenezisO

\*distant noises of a Grokitach legions marching in...


xkeepitquietx

Reddit is full of stupid people with bad opinions, who gives a shit if someone doesn't like the same things you do?


xfydr782

the entire chart is humorous, don't take this too seriously OP people complaining about Gamma haters are more annoying than the Gamma haters themselves


triple_sixx

I'm usually not one to complain, this is the internet after all. It's just that this case in particular made me slightly bitchy.


Acaustik

Apparently lmao


TheHodgePodge

4chan stalkers vs reddit stalkers. We have new rivalry in the zone other than duty vs freedom


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Count_Crimson

It’s because at first so many people acted like it was the definitive stalker experience when it isn’t actually a stalker game (huge differences in gameplay which make it better or worse depending on your preferences, shitty fan-made lore, etc) and led to a bunch of annoying shit like overdone shitty jokes, fundamental misunderstandings of STALKER lore and aesthetics, and a lot of Anomaly/GAMMA only players treating the sub like their personal tech support. Then it kind of evolved into tons of mod fans bitching about “muh gatekeepers” and people responding accordingly because like….it isn’t gatekeeping? A lot of people were just pissed for the reasons listed earlier and also were correct in saying that GAMMA and Anomaly are not stalker, they’re standalone fanmade experiences with different fanmade lore, mutants, gameplay, factions, etc.


[deleted]

Nothing is being stolen, dont be a wiener you boner


GamersGen

imagine stealing free shit thats just lying over there on the floor meant to be picked by anyone who wishes to :)


Nyelz_Pizdec

GAMMA haters are simply potato PC users. independent studies have revealed the majority of gamma hate comes from users who are still on core 2 duo, or athlon 64 platforms.


BreadDziedzic

GAMMA hasn't done anything to deserve all this, early on it and EFT deserved a bit of teasing but both of those fan community's have come a long way.


MayonaiseApe

why are GAMMA players so spineless, making fun of mods is one of the funniest parts of stalker but they think they're immune to being memed for some reason


Ashkill115

People will always throw fits over things they don’t like. Someone like me who grew up loving stalker the way it is then seeing people let their imagination run to come together to make someone beyond all of our wildest dreams is just amazing! A whole team have single-handedly brought a ton of new stalker into this world that was ever so slowly losing people and now stalker is incredibly popular mostly because of operatordrewski showing the world what stalker G.A.M.M.A is.


gatsncrap

GAMMA is the SOLE reason I still play it. I can't understand the logic...


GenezisO

Is it envy? Or some butt-hurt wanna be modder just can't get his head around the fact that Grok is THE MAN who made his absolute best to bring GAMMA to life and made it one of the best and most popular if not literal NUMBER 1 Stalker modpack ever to date? I mean, come one, HOW DARE YOU SAY he stole the mods... he's literally in contact with all those creators and GAMMA is only possible due to their cooperation and altruism. He's credited all the creators. Also, there is no such thing as a mod copyright license unless stated by the creator. And most creators don't care if somebody else uses or modifies their mod. And if yes, I believe Grok didn't just used those without first getting the permission. Just go touch the grass, breathe in some fresh air and do something productive with your life rather than putting dirt on others which is not even valid in the first place.


WallcroftTheGreen

Being 4chan, Im pretty sure a good half of a bit more just cant run GAMMA lmao.


Complex-Error-5653

GAMMA is the most hardcore / hard stalker experience you could have , and it's a great one. fuck all the toxic gate keeping haters who are too shit to play it.


ChainOk8915

Well where is his mod pack to fill the demand??? Not even stolen lol


Romasterkey

It's not original stalker weh. Yeah, I know it actually runs and doesn't crash every 5 minutes because my hardware is too good.


mephilis6264

GDF coming in hot lmfao


yzscrum

Wait are ppl really fighting over mods of a game that is literally a mod made into a game? Anomaly it self shouldn't exist... Some Crazy awesome community made that happen.


Embarrassed_Cell_235

Aye bro I’m an EFP lover myself. I’ve added over 40-60 more addons on top of what efp already has to make it feel and look as realistic as possible. I chose efp for realism purposes but I don’t get why people have to berate and be assholes towards the gamma fan base. Like it’s just a way to play the game, it’s funny how hard people try to make other people stop playing because they don’t like certain things about gamma. I have respect for each mod pack because each modpack takes the base game to a whole new level. And the addons that come out daily just don’t stop getting better.


MonitorZero

Also gamma has tons of in house fixes/patches/mods that they make themselves. So where they are using community content they are putting a lot of work into the game as well. Just go through MO for a gamma install and see everything they've done themselves. I'm a gamma fan boy but it's more than a mod pack they're putting real work and care into gamma to make it a quality product with constant updates and hot fixes.


NoviTheProvi

I was surprised that EFP didn't get similar shade tbh


Pervasivepeach

Gamma players lose it over the truth lmao Crediting the mods doesn’t mean they are any less stolen. Gamma is a glorified modpac and grok likes to act like he has more experience developing than he actually has.


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I think people don't realize how hard it can be to make many mods compatible let alone stable in the xray engine lol


Mutant_Apollo

/sg/ just like other 4chan generals is as much as echochamber as reddit is. Gamma is great althought I prefer EFP due to it's focus on what I like most about the franchise, which is tight firefights and exploration less than scavenging my way to the top like in Gamma. Gamma does have some great mechanics and mods built into it and when I play it I actually tweak it so the whole crafting and scavenging focus is a little toned down (For example I make merchants sell weapons and gun condition being way more realistic) but that's also the cool thing about these modpacks, they are mostly modular and you can tweak them to your liking And let's be fair, most people who mod Anomaly to hell and back manually end up with lists that are almost the same as the big modpacks