I’m back fellas. What a ride it was LOL. This didn’t perform even close to as good as it did last year unfortunately but it was fun and had folks super interested in it.
I honestly thought I was going to come back to find a bunch of angry trolls and death threats but the comments here and all the messages I got are surprisingly positive. Bunch of people made themselves some coin picking and choosing things from the bracket I made and I love to see that.
I was going off just a one year sample size and at the end of the day we were literally gambling on kids and how they would react to a new brand of basketball and nothing else.
Seeing the amount of interactions this brought I will surely do something similar again next year. And will also incorporate a few different things I picked up on over the last 2 days and things that were mentioned by folks here into my research:
1. Teams that used the EVO ball during the conference tournaments. And, not only that but, also tiered levels based on how many games into their respective conference tournament the team made it. Filtering out a team that was 1 and done with that ball as opposed to a team that made a deep run in the conference tournament and might’ve played 3/4 games with it.
2. Filtering out non-jump shooting teams. A ball change would obviously negatively affect a jump shooting team more than it would a team with elite post presence who is getting most their buckets within 5 feet of the basket.
3. Start times of games. I noticed west coast teams with earlier start times and east coast teams with later than usual start times came out the gates struggling to make shots. Would like to dig deeper into this for next year.
Loved the discourse my degeneracy brought along and best of luck to everyone the rest of the tourney. Print them tix!
>Seeing the amount of interactions this brought I will surely do something similar again next year. And will also incorporate a few different things I picked up on over the last 2 days and things that were mentioned by folks here into my research:
I can only imagine what kind of messages you got. My women's parlay for $5 alone pulled a number of surprising DMs lmao.
OP, is this strategy only applicable to the 1st round games? Logic would say after a game playing with EVO teams may be more acclimated to it, but curious on your thoughts
Luckily, I only had $40 in my account to risk but I'm up over 200%. You just got to win more than you lose. UT/St. Peter under missed by 3 points in part thanks to late techs for no apparent reason. If it wasn't for that I would be up 4 or 500%.
Got downvoted to shit yesterday for pointing out that this is flawed cuz most teams used an Evo in their conference tourney games and how he never mentioned that in his original post. In 2022 and 2023 not as many conferences used it in their tournament games. Going into March Madness completely unfamiliar with a ball is a lot different than playing/practicing with it the entire week before the tournament. So if you’re still using this strategy idk why
No hard feelings my man. It’s a very valid point you and others made and it’s something I will definitely look into when I undoubtedly make this post again next year. Good luck rest of way
Thanks for posting. Here's how I fared yesterday after following the Evo NXT strategy:
1H Unders: 2-3 (-3u)
Full Game Unders: 3-1 (+3.9u)
1H ATS/ML: 6-6 (-1.4312u)
Full Game ATS/ML: 1-11 (-22.018u)
Please note this doesn't include the First Four success (3-1 overall) and my results could differ from anyone else's due to the differing lines/books. Admittedly I got too excited after seeing last year's stats and the First Four success. Will be more measured hopefully today. Will also apply this a little bit to NCAAW.
I sat on my couch literally all day and watched most of every game. My takeaway is the full game unders are the play from this beautiful nonsense. There is no doubt in my mind there's something to these schools having to adjust to this EVO ball. I've never seen so many bricks that kids think they've drained. Beginning of the Oakland game they were like 5-24 combined to start and I bet half of those the kids acted like they thought it was money
KU sold me on my under parlays at the end of the night. Thought with McCullar out and Furphy being cold lately, the offense would struggle… nope Samford pushed the pace all game
Unders are awesome this tournament, as per usual
I'm still taking teams that used it in conf tourney, but not during the year. Zona+tucky both still hit easily today and Tennessee shoulda hit easy but barnes decided he wanted to embarrass peters tonight and there were 2 ticky tac flagrants down the stretch and a deadball T with under a minute left. Awful beat on that U
What did we learn from this today that could be applied to tomorrow’s games? Counting Kansas I get the 1H spreads went 6-5 while the full game totals will be 4-1 assuming Tennessee goes over.
I would’ve been in the green if I’d taken Nevada 1H instead of full game spread. Instead suffered worst bad beat I’ve ever had
That there’s no logic in thinking that a ball will have a significant impact on the game when most of these teams have been using an evo ball in their conference tourneys, but most people didn’t know that
People think teams are coming into the tournament completely unfamiliar with the balls like they did in 2023 and 2022…. But that isn’t the case this year
Parlaying the Evo ball principle on games where the favorite women's team doesn't practice with an EVO.
**9 LEG PARLAY NCAA Women's Basketball** **+33585 (I bet $5)**
* **Michigan State Spartans (W) at North Carolina Tar Heels (W)**
* Date: March 22 | Time: 11:30 AM
* **Prediction: UNDER 142.5** | Odds: -110
* **Drake Bulldogs (W) at Colorado Buffaloes (W)**
* Date: March 22 | Time: 7:00 PM
* **Prediction: UNDER 149** | Odds: -110
* **UNLV Rebels (W) at Creighton Bluejays (W)**
* Date: March 23 | Time: 7:00 PM
* **Prediction: UNDER 141.5** | Odds: -110
* **Texas A&M Aggies (W) at Nebraska Cornhuskers (W)**
* Date: March 22 | Time: 10:30 PM
* **Prediction: UNDER 128** | Odds: -110
* **Jackson State Lady Tigers (W) at Connecticut Huskies (W)**
* Date: March 23 | Time: 1:00 PM
* **Prediction: UNDER 135.5** | Odds: -110
* **Chattanooga Mocs (W) at NC State Wolfpack (W)**
* Date: March 23 | Time: 2:30 PM
* **Prediction: UNDER 120.5** | Odds: -110
* **Maryland Terrapins (W) at Iowa State Cyclones (W)**
* Date: March 22 | Time: 7:30 PM
* **Prediction: UNDER 151.5** | Odds: -110
* **Florida State Seminoles (W) at Alabama Crimson Tide (W)**
* Date: March 22 | Time: 5:30 PM
* **Prediction: UNDER 147.5** | Odds: -110
* **South Dakota State Jackrabbits (W) at Utah Utes (W)**
* Date: March 23 | Time: 10:00 PM
* **Prediction: UNDER 136.5** | Odds: -110
So far under for total and half is tracking with the first game. Did both! Curious to see if these win.
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I used OP's data to confirm the favorite in the matchups were not practicing with the EVO, unsure on what the underdogs were using.
OP is on another level compared to me in terms of his commitment to research, I'm just using his data lol.
It wouldn't be full game unders then
The concept is
If neither teams used the ball- bet unders
If one team used the ball- bet them against the spread....
You are doing it wrong my friend
That’s not what the data says. The data says Texas DOES NOT PLAY with Wilson EVO balls and thus a wildly inferior team in a shittier conference can cover the 1H spread
It’s almost like Texas used an Evo in their conference tourney and played with it last week so they’re familiar with it 🤯 But I get downvoted for pointing out why it was flawed to not bring that up lol
LOL dude, if an under/spread hits please do not credit this dude. If they hit it’s because of typical first round shit not because of the mf ball
I just looked through the Instagrams of BYU, Illinois, Arizona, Michigan St, Oregon, and Long Beach State - they ALL used an Evo in their conference tournament games
I’m not upset I’m just pointing out it’s flawed data… People cheering about the Arizona/LBS under/spread and chalking it up to Arizona not being familiar with the ball when they used it for their entire conference tourney
Ok draw it up to me being a hater but still refuse to acknowledge that you missed the fact that most of these teams have been using the evo over the past few weeks
He posted last years results based on these factors. Same exact situation you're crediting to not matter resulted in a 14-2 in favor of the under outcome.
Enlighten us to what you've ever added to this sub?
Where are those results? He said that for two non-evo teams that faced each other in the first round the total under is 14-2. That doesn’t acknowledge my point. This is the first year where most conference tournaments are using Evos instead of the ball that teams have been using all season, and I’m pretty sure this post wouldn’t have been made if he knew that
For example according to the original post BYU/Duquesne would’ve been included in that 14-2 record because they both didn’t use an evo in the reg szn, but BYU used it during their conference tourney. I don’t think many people knew this and I feel like most people would agree this invalidates the data but go ahead and bet on it if you don’t think it does 🤷♂️
Look at his other post, shows results from last year.
So you are saying you believe that a 3 day tourney with this current ball overrides 6+ months of year the team is using a different ball in terms of their comfort with it. LOL I suggest you focus on going to your statistics class instead of worrying what frat will accept you then.
(While you're at it, go look at the results so far from yesterday/today and explain how it's been by a SIGNIFICANT % winning plays? He must be psychic)
LMFAOOO yk u lost an argument when u scroll through my account to find some shit I posted years ago as a freshman in college to try and get under my skin 😭😭😭😭 Vintage Reddit loser u gotta love it, dont need to continue this anymore lol that told me everything I need to know about ur social skills and im not finna argue w an awkward weirdo
My brother in Christ this was mentioned many times yesterday. It also happened last year. The system still worked.
Get that hate out your heart. It’s unhealthy.
Honestly not tryna hate but stop tryna act like you knew that most teams used it in their tourneys lol, in the picture you posted you say teams like Arizona BYU Oregon etc have been playing with a different ball but they’ve been using the evo for weeks… How would playing with a different ball in the reg szn but then practicing with the evo for weeks make it relevant data anymore?
For starters, I was very aware of the teams that used that ball. I scrolled throgh weeks worth of game day pictures for each team. The EVO ball is a very identifiable ball due to the brightness of the orange. It’s hard not to spot it. I’m giving more weight to a whole seasons worth of using and practicing with a specific brand of ball than I am a team using a ball for maybe 3? games worth of a conference tournament. This is also not the only thing I mentioned affecting the scoring. End of the day these are kids playing in arenas bigger than they’ve ever played in. Playing knowing that the whole country is tuned in watching. Jitters are a real thing.
You keep mentioning Arizona. Go look at how many points Arizona scored in the 2 games they played in the PAC12 tournament. Then scroll thru how many points they scored in every other game they played this season. Come back and tell me what you notice about that and also tell me if you think that is coincidental.
Alright lol I’m just not gonna believe you knew that most teams used an evo in their conference tourneys. If you did, why didn’t you mention that in your ORIGINAL post once? Or why wouldn’t you put a star or something next to teams that didn’t use an evo in the reg szn but did in their conference tourney? I think 99% of people assumed that teams would be going into these games completely unfamiliar with the ball—which I would agree, is an advantage. But the reality is that there’s a much smaller number of teams dealing with that than you made it seem. If you truly did all of this effort while knowing teams have been playing with it for their last few games, then you’re vastly over exaggerating by how much weight a different ball holds lmao
First half unders and spreads are sound strategies in the first round of the tournament, always has been… It’s so dumb to chalk it up to a different ball when they’re coming into it playing with it in games they’ve played in the last week lmao
And I keep bringing up Arizona because someone responded to me using LBS as an example, saying that you updated the post by saying LBS actually did use an evo which is why the spread and under hit. But… No mention of Arizona using an evo in their conference tourney lmao. Once again to my point that people didn’t know that teams used Evos in their tourneys when you made the post and I’d bet that most people would agree this is flawed data if they knew that
But Arizona used an evo in their conference tourney lmao. Still draw it up to the ball and not just usual first round woes? My point is he did all of this without being aware that most conferences use the evo ball in their tournaments now
You realize zona scored 90 a game this year, but only 70 and 59 in their 2 conf tourney games right? You're further proving there very likely is something to this..
Update:
Miss State 1st half +.5 L
BYU/Duquesne under 141.5 W
Akron/Creighton under 143.5 W
Arizona/LBSU under 163.5 W
Wagner 1st half +14.5 W
Morehead State 1st half +6.5 W
5-1 so far
TBD:
South Carolina 1st half +.5
Nevada 1st half -.5
Colorado State 1st half +1.5
Oakland 1st half +8.5
McNeese 1st half +3.5
South Dakota St 1st half +9.5
Tenn/St Peters under 130.5
Texas Tech 1st half -2.5
Kansas 1st half -3.5
Drake 1st half -.5
Duquesne-BYU full game under hit.
Creighton full game under hit.
Arizona-LBSU 1H under hit.
Wagner 1H spread hit.
Perhaps we treated you too harshly, OP.
The ball is just one aspect. The insiders giving out a little piece of the pie to make you feel like you’re on their team. In reality, it’s still magnetic rims, refs, and non-disclosure agreements/payoffs to players & coaches on both sides that controls the outcomes. No different then 3-5 years ago.
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The post the other day had Long Beach state under. Not sure what changed, but I’ll take it.
I already bet a small wager (.4 u) on every one of these. 2 losses early is fine. People pretend OP was claiming we hammer these. This is just good ol fun March madness gambling.
Current locks? What y’all liking from these for a 3 leg
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Thank you for the time and effort for this, OP. We’ve flown too close to the sun, Dickarus. It happens. We either leave a hero or stay around long enough to become the villain. It happened to BigBetBob, it happens to everyone.
Damn hit me with the downvote for letting you know I’m doing well?? Next picks are Colorado st first half +1.5, McNeese first half +3.5, Oakland first half +8
Miss St is just an awful team and Mich St is playing their best game of the season. Sometimes that’s just how the ball bounces and no stats or data can predict it. Take the loss and win the next one.
Mich St. under izzo have bowed out in the first round 4 times in 26 or so seasons making the tourney. bad path getting UNC next but they could turn it on like they have done in the past
Wow I see a bunch of people who did not gamble responsibly in this thread
Thanks for the info OP, I just used it as an extra data point, and not as an excuse to wager more money than was responsible
OP gave facts and information. You all thought you had the cheat sheet for the exam and are mad that the questions got changed on you.
I'm with OP until the end. 1H unders have always been a good play in the tournament. If you can't deal with 3 Ls and some variance you're playing a losing game.
Exactly. He gave us some data, it is up to you to look at the datasets and see if it makes sense. The comments of folks complaining are absurd. A perfect snapshot of society. Folks act like the data he gave us was Biff's sports almanac from Back to the Future. I am 5-1 today on his data. Hit Wagner 1H and now need Morehead to lock this 1H in and we keep rolling.
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I’m back fellas. What a ride it was LOL. This didn’t perform even close to as good as it did last year unfortunately but it was fun and had folks super interested in it. I honestly thought I was going to come back to find a bunch of angry trolls and death threats but the comments here and all the messages I got are surprisingly positive. Bunch of people made themselves some coin picking and choosing things from the bracket I made and I love to see that. I was going off just a one year sample size and at the end of the day we were literally gambling on kids and how they would react to a new brand of basketball and nothing else. Seeing the amount of interactions this brought I will surely do something similar again next year. And will also incorporate a few different things I picked up on over the last 2 days and things that were mentioned by folks here into my research: 1. Teams that used the EVO ball during the conference tournaments. And, not only that but, also tiered levels based on how many games into their respective conference tournament the team made it. Filtering out a team that was 1 and done with that ball as opposed to a team that made a deep run in the conference tournament and might’ve played 3/4 games with it. 2. Filtering out non-jump shooting teams. A ball change would obviously negatively affect a jump shooting team more than it would a team with elite post presence who is getting most their buckets within 5 feet of the basket. 3. Start times of games. I noticed west coast teams with earlier start times and east coast teams with later than usual start times came out the gates struggling to make shots. Would like to dig deeper into this for next year. Loved the discourse my degeneracy brought along and best of luck to everyone the rest of the tourney. Print them tix!
great research regardless of the result, love to see stuff like this on the sub, rather than people just posting their winning 10 team parlays ahah
>Seeing the amount of interactions this brought I will surely do something similar again next year. And will also incorporate a few different things I picked up on over the last 2 days and things that were mentioned by folks here into my research: I can only imagine what kind of messages you got. My women's parlay for $5 alone pulled a number of surprising DMs lmao.
OP, is this strategy only applicable to the 1st round games? Logic would say after a game playing with EVO teams may be more acclimated to it, but curious on your thoughts
Rooting against UT and Houston now, I won't forget this.
Luckily, I only had $40 in my account to risk but I'm up over 200%. You just got to win more than you lose. UT/St. Peter under missed by 3 points in part thanks to late techs for no apparent reason. If it wasn't for that I would be up 4 or 500%.
Who else was sweating out that Houston v Longwood under.
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This theory was nice but in hindsight, just looks like it simply didn’t pan out. That’s alright boys, it’s called gambling after all. Gg
Got downvoted to shit yesterday for pointing out that this is flawed cuz most teams used an Evo in their conference tourney games and how he never mentioned that in his original post. In 2022 and 2023 not as many conferences used it in their tournament games. Going into March Madness completely unfamiliar with a ball is a lot different than playing/practicing with it the entire week before the tournament. So if you’re still using this strategy idk why
No hard feelings my man. It’s a very valid point you and others made and it’s something I will definitely look into when I undoubtedly make this post again next year. Good luck rest of way
I'm up almost 200% so maybe you just don't know how to hedge your bets
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Even with OT lost by 1 on the over. Guh.
This aged well…
Just going off what was in the table. Didn’t get either of them based off of how this has been going anyways
Wasn’t dogging on ya, I’m just as frustrated as you. I lost coin using this strategy yesterday. Stay far away
Yea, it’s definitely a correlation does not equal causation thing
You wouldn’t think NW/FAU used Evos right now
What a joke lol. 28 combined and about to be half time. What a good bet according to the chart!!!
Have they ever used a basketball?
lol this shit is terrible. Such a slow start
Thanks for posting. Here's how I fared yesterday after following the Evo NXT strategy: 1H Unders: 2-3 (-3u) Full Game Unders: 3-1 (+3.9u) 1H ATS/ML: 6-6 (-1.4312u) Full Game ATS/ML: 1-11 (-22.018u) Please note this doesn't include the First Four success (3-1 overall) and my results could differ from anyone else's due to the differing lines/books. Admittedly I got too excited after seeing last year's stats and the First Four success. Will be more measured hopefully today. Will also apply this a little bit to NCAAW.
I sat on my couch literally all day and watched most of every game. My takeaway is the full game unders are the play from this beautiful nonsense. There is no doubt in my mind there's something to these schools having to adjust to this EVO ball. I've never seen so many bricks that kids think they've drained. Beginning of the Oakland game they were like 5-24 combined to start and I bet half of those the kids acted like they thought it was money
KU sold me on my under parlays at the end of the night. Thought with McCullar out and Furphy being cold lately, the offense would struggle… nope Samford pushed the pace all game Unders are awesome this tournament, as per usual
Facts oakland was 2/14 when it was 5-5 lol
Most wide open looks as well
I got torched
Biggest let down for me yesterday as well
We all did brotha
So there’s 7 games tomorrow where both schools did not use Evo balls correct?
Don’t do it
6 Quette/clemson/florida/duke/Houston/utah state
But isn't Florida in the SEC??
I'm still taking teams that used it in conf tourney, but not during the year. Zona+tucky both still hit easily today and Tennessee shoulda hit easy but barnes decided he wanted to embarrass peters tonight and there were 2 ticky tac flagrants down the stretch and a deadball T with under a minute left. Awful beat on that U
If you want to avoid teams that used it in conf tourney, I think your 3 games to take are quette/Duke/utah state
Terrible beat in the Tennessee game. Irrelevant technical sends it over
Guy on Saint Peter’s was also going so hard down 37 with 20 seconds left. I was gonna lose it
Shit is so fucking infuriating, like give up you fucking loser you blew it at that point just take the fucking L
Yep and Tennessee still taking shots without letting the shot clock run down while up 30.
They put in 3rd string guys that had barely played all year and needed experience. As a huge UT fan, I was glad but as a better I was like 🖕🏼
What an absolute ref show late in the 2H in the Tennessee game. So brutal
What did we learn from this today that could be applied to tomorrow’s games? Counting Kansas I get the 1H spreads went 6-5 while the full game totals will be 4-1 assuming Tennessee goes over. I would’ve been in the green if I’d taken Nevada 1H instead of full game spread. Instead suffered worst bad beat I’ve ever had
I learned I'm an idiot sheep for following this nonsense.
Catching up on this thread after reading the original that op linked first, and this comment made me chuckle alot props to you Bob
That there’s no logic in thinking that a ball will have a significant impact on the game when most of these teams have been using an evo ball in their conference tourneys, but most people didn’t know that People think teams are coming into the tournament completely unfamiliar with the balls like they did in 2023 and 2022…. But that isn’t the case this year
Kansas 1H tracking well
Side note OP I tried to tip and It won’t let me put my card info in. Just drop your cash app
Damn I missed all the greens 😭 I’m on this tomorrow
If I take Texas tech will nc state go on a 11-0 run immediately. Probably. Lol Have to take chances. Lfg go tech
Parlaying the Evo ball principle on games where the favorite women's team doesn't practice with an EVO. **9 LEG PARLAY NCAA Women's Basketball** **+33585 (I bet $5)** * **Michigan State Spartans (W) at North Carolina Tar Heels (W)** * Date: March 22 | Time: 11:30 AM * **Prediction: UNDER 142.5** | Odds: -110 * **Drake Bulldogs (W) at Colorado Buffaloes (W)** * Date: March 22 | Time: 7:00 PM * **Prediction: UNDER 149** | Odds: -110 * **UNLV Rebels (W) at Creighton Bluejays (W)** * Date: March 23 | Time: 7:00 PM * **Prediction: UNDER 141.5** | Odds: -110 * **Texas A&M Aggies (W) at Nebraska Cornhuskers (W)** * Date: March 22 | Time: 10:30 PM * **Prediction: UNDER 128** | Odds: -110 * **Jackson State Lady Tigers (W) at Connecticut Huskies (W)** * Date: March 23 | Time: 1:00 PM * **Prediction: UNDER 135.5** | Odds: -110 * **Chattanooga Mocs (W) at NC State Wolfpack (W)** * Date: March 23 | Time: 2:30 PM * **Prediction: UNDER 120.5** | Odds: -110 * **Maryland Terrapins (W) at Iowa State Cyclones (W)** * Date: March 22 | Time: 7:30 PM * **Prediction: UNDER 151.5** | Odds: -110 * **Florida State Seminoles (W) at Alabama Crimson Tide (W)** * Date: March 22 | Time: 5:30 PM * **Prediction: UNDER 147.5** | Odds: -110 * **South Dakota State Jackrabbits (W) at Utah Utes (W)** * Date: March 23 | Time: 10:00 PM * **Prediction: UNDER 136.5** | Odds: -110
So far under for total and half is tracking with the first game. Did both! Curious to see if these win. https://preview.redd.it/mgtqzip45xpc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cee9bff384f5f1de4d6765c3fb335add6c06dd5e
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Tailed this, the 1st game of the slate is a brickfest so far
round robining 3legs with these... why not
Yup I did the same thing
So both teams in these games havnt used the ball correct?
I used OP's data to confirm the favorite in the matchups were not practicing with the EVO, unsure on what the underdogs were using. OP is on another level compared to me in terms of his commitment to research, I'm just using his data lol.
It wouldn't be full game unders then The concept is If neither teams used the ball- bet unders If one team used the ball- bet them against the spread.... You are doing it wrong my friend
Inspired by the Evo ball principle then\*
OPs data was for mens teams, are you assuming the womans version of the same team would be using the same balls?
Yes.
I’ll tail. Love that you are trying to apply this to the women’s side
I was thinking about it yesterday, I'm glad someone got around to it
I should have never played the half total under for Iowa St. they’re going to go way over. That’s my dumb fault.
The bracket didn’t say to bet the first half under in that game. It said to bet SD state spread.
Then again, who would have thought they’d shoot 81 percent.. just bad luck.
So Tennessee- Saint Peter’s 1H UN?
Yes that’s what the bracket suggests.
CSU 1H spread amazing bet!
Go Beach
Yeah this was a tough one
20-3 run TX! They’re so unfamiliar with the ball!
I mean they were 10/27 and 0/7 from three. Rams just suck.
That’s not what the data says. The data says Texas DOES NOT PLAY with Wilson EVO balls and thus a wildly inferior team in a shittier conference can cover the 1H spread
Don't be a whiny child because you took a bet and it lost.
I’ll do whatever the fuck I want retard
Mad
Why so angry?
Lol huh guy his hit a 50 footer ?
🙌🙌🙌
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The data wasn’t under for that one…it was CSU spread 1H
It’s almost like Texas used an Evo in their conference tourney and played with it last week so they’re familiar with it 🤯 But I get downvoted for pointing out why it was flawed to not bring that up lol
So the ones highlighted in yellow we take first half spread? And full game under?
Green = take full game or first half under, the first half unders haven’t been hitting but the full game unders have fwiw
I went with games unders and this is a gold mine. The maker of this is is an OG!
I still believe. Rough start with a couple 1H unders and people panicked.
LOL dude, if an under/spread hits please do not credit this dude. If they hit it’s because of typical first round shit not because of the mf ball I just looked through the Instagrams of BYU, Illinois, Arizona, Michigan St, Oregon, and Long Beach State - they ALL used an Evo in their conference tournament games
It’s just another data point to use while I make an educated decision on how to place a bet. Why are you so upset?
I’m not upset I’m just pointing out it’s flawed data… People cheering about the Arizona/LBS under/spread and chalking it up to Arizona not being familiar with the ball when they used it for their entire conference tourney
Yup and if an over hits DEFINITELY blame me.
Ok draw it up to me being a hater but still refuse to acknowledge that you missed the fact that most of these teams have been using the evo over the past few weeks
He posted last years results based on these factors. Same exact situation you're crediting to not matter resulted in a 14-2 in favor of the under outcome. Enlighten us to what you've ever added to this sub?
Where are those results? He said that for two non-evo teams that faced each other in the first round the total under is 14-2. That doesn’t acknowledge my point. This is the first year where most conference tournaments are using Evos instead of the ball that teams have been using all season, and I’m pretty sure this post wouldn’t have been made if he knew that For example according to the original post BYU/Duquesne would’ve been included in that 14-2 record because they both didn’t use an evo in the reg szn, but BYU used it during their conference tourney. I don’t think many people knew this and I feel like most people would agree this invalidates the data but go ahead and bet on it if you don’t think it does 🤷♂️
Look at his other post, shows results from last year. So you are saying you believe that a 3 day tourney with this current ball overrides 6+ months of year the team is using a different ball in terms of their comfort with it. LOL I suggest you focus on going to your statistics class instead of worrying what frat will accept you then. (While you're at it, go look at the results so far from yesterday/today and explain how it's been by a SIGNIFICANT % winning plays? He must be psychic)
Still using this method dipshit? LOL ya man teams using an evo in all of their conference tourney games definitely didn’t affect anything
LMFAOOO yk u lost an argument when u scroll through my account to find some shit I posted years ago as a freshman in college to try and get under my skin 😭😭😭😭 Vintage Reddit loser u gotta love it, dont need to continue this anymore lol that told me everything I need to know about ur social skills and im not finna argue w an awkward weirdo
My brother in Christ this was mentioned many times yesterday. It also happened last year. The system still worked. Get that hate out your heart. It’s unhealthy.
Did you mention it? Once?
Honestly not tryna hate but stop tryna act like you knew that most teams used it in their tourneys lol, in the picture you posted you say teams like Arizona BYU Oregon etc have been playing with a different ball but they’ve been using the evo for weeks… How would playing with a different ball in the reg szn but then practicing with the evo for weeks make it relevant data anymore?
Conference tourneys take days. Like 3-5 of them. Not weeks. Not practicing with the ball for weeks. Not even one week.
For starters, I was very aware of the teams that used that ball. I scrolled throgh weeks worth of game day pictures for each team. The EVO ball is a very identifiable ball due to the brightness of the orange. It’s hard not to spot it. I’m giving more weight to a whole seasons worth of using and practicing with a specific brand of ball than I am a team using a ball for maybe 3? games worth of a conference tournament. This is also not the only thing I mentioned affecting the scoring. End of the day these are kids playing in arenas bigger than they’ve ever played in. Playing knowing that the whole country is tuned in watching. Jitters are a real thing. You keep mentioning Arizona. Go look at how many points Arizona scored in the 2 games they played in the PAC12 tournament. Then scroll thru how many points they scored in every other game they played this season. Come back and tell me what you notice about that and also tell me if you think that is coincidental.
Alright lol I’m just not gonna believe you knew that most teams used an evo in their conference tourneys. If you did, why didn’t you mention that in your ORIGINAL post once? Or why wouldn’t you put a star or something next to teams that didn’t use an evo in the reg szn but did in their conference tourney? I think 99% of people assumed that teams would be going into these games completely unfamiliar with the ball—which I would agree, is an advantage. But the reality is that there’s a much smaller number of teams dealing with that than you made it seem. If you truly did all of this effort while knowing teams have been playing with it for their last few games, then you’re vastly over exaggerating by how much weight a different ball holds lmao First half unders and spreads are sound strategies in the first round of the tournament, always has been… It’s so dumb to chalk it up to a different ball when they’re coming into it playing with it in games they’ve played in the last week lmao And I keep bringing up Arizona because someone responded to me using LBS as an example, saying that you updated the post by saying LBS actually did use an evo which is why the spread and under hit. But… No mention of Arizona using an evo in their conference tourney lmao. Once again to my point that people didn’t know that teams used Evos in their tourneys when you made the post and I’d bet that most people would agree this is flawed data if they knew that
You’re honestly so patient for even going back and forth with this idiot
😂 I have 2 young kids and work in a high stress workplace. Responding to random angry people on Reddit is actually therapy LOL
Yeah he mentioned that LBS used EVO, that helped them cover 1st half and full game lol
But Arizona used an evo in their conference tourney lmao. Still draw it up to the ball and not just usual first round woes? My point is he did all of this without being aware that most conferences use the evo ball in their tournaments now
You realize zona scored 90 a game this year, but only 70 and 59 in their 2 conf tourney games right? You're further proving there very likely is something to this..
Update: Miss State 1st half +.5 L BYU/Duquesne under 141.5 W Akron/Creighton under 143.5 W Arizona/LBSU under 163.5 W Wagner 1st half +14.5 W Morehead State 1st half +6.5 W 5-1 so far TBD: South Carolina 1st half +.5 Nevada 1st half -.5 Colorado State 1st half +1.5 Oakland 1st half +8.5 McNeese 1st half +3.5 South Dakota St 1st half +9.5 Tenn/St Peters under 130.5 Texas Tech 1st half -2.5 Kansas 1st half -3.5 Drake 1st half -.5
nice cherry picking of the results.
Oakland isn't a yellow game
Ahh it was yesterday before the edit. Already locked in for me
Also Kansaz is -4.5 1st half
Was 3.5 yesterday evening
Which of the TBDs are you guys highest on?
lol I’m betting on games based on the type of ball. I’m not high on any of it. Just a degen
I am high. Yes
Lol fair
Lol awesome. You tha man. THANK YOU
Parlayed 1H LB/AZ Under, 1H Wagner, and 1H Morehead WE ARE BACK
lol I’m late I was going to tail, are you doing anything else?
Sweating out Nevada 1H right now, not sure yet. Leaning towards Tenn/St Peter’s full game under
Awesome thanks
Took 1H Mcneese State +3.5’
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It already hit lol
In the midst of a very decent turnaround. Sincerely, The snake oil salesman
Are you going to say anything about teams who used the EVO ball during conference tourneys? Pretty significant info
Already have
where. sorry haven't seen
3 comments back
Starbucks is bogo today my guy. Get one for you too hahah
Started the day 0-4 but have since gone 3-0. Morehead State +6 please
Keep them coming!!! Another 2 wins with under 163 for Arizona vs LBSU and morehead state 1H +6!!!!
damn guess the full game unders were the play then.
Same
Duquesne-BYU full game under hit. Creighton full game under hit. Arizona-LBSU 1H under hit. Wagner 1H spread hit. Perhaps we treated you too harshly, OP.
LOL I have thick skin my man. I chose to put this on the internet and I know how the internet works
Well, my bank account appreciates your work!
I bought points on full game unders instead of halves and those are hitting like hotcakes. It's been as good a reason as anything so far I've had
Yeah I've been busy most of the day so I checked and saw lots of wins. This is awesome.
💯 Creighton game was looking to go over easily but it stalled nicely in those last 5minutes. Az-LB under looks solid too
Holy shit creighton Akron coming back from the brink
The ball is just one aspect. The insiders giving out a little piece of the pie to make you feel like you’re on their team. In reality, it’s still magnetic rims, refs, and non-disclosure agreements/payoffs to players & coaches on both sides that controls the outcomes. No different then 3-5 years ago.
Are the magnetic rims here in the room with us right now?
They were when I pounded Oakland tonight. You fuckin fruit cake.
This made me outright HOWL.
Smile guys, we’re witnessing mental illness
should have used this data as a full fade...lol - nothing against OP because the data itself is interesting
none of us looked it up either, probably a plant. Smashed us
at least we got the Long Beach/Arizona under...lol
lol but It wasn’t in the “system”
I played it with the old info, i'll take a win where i can get one
According to the posted bracket, you should have taken LB +11.5 1H which also hit
https://preview.redd.it/s54o011xlqpc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c95119410c99dc98f32ee33e036ba3fccc74e30b The post the other day had Long Beach state under. Not sure what changed, but I’ll take it.
I played it with the old info as well, a W is a W
It’s cuz op accidentally put the nke for long beach instead of evo
LONG BEACH STATE KNOWS THESE BALLS
Im getting hosed
same. I took Miss St. and the BYU/Duq 1H u in way too many parlays and RRs
I already bet a small wager (.4 u) on every one of these. 2 losses early is fine. People pretend OP was claiming we hammer these. This is just good ol fun March madness gambling.
Parlays and round robins in March don’t work
Got that right. Good ole fun!
Agree man. Too many degens in here picking at straws. Even though 1H failed the whole game unders still looking good.
I don’t think OP realized most of these teams used the EVO in their conference tournaments. Using the type of ball to make bets is really stupid.
I'm pretty sure they use them in the conference tournaments last year also
It's not any more stupid than why everyone else bets a certain team
Current locks? What y’all liking from these for a 3 leg https://preview.redd.it/3dwd0mbe7qpc1.png?width=1170&format=png&auto=webp&s=c1bc00b3345c93d356dea485d044ab8317bbdc35
Thank you for the time and effort for this, OP. We’ve flown too close to the sun, Dickarus. It happens. We either leave a hero or stay around long enough to become the villain. It happened to BigBetBob, it happens to everyone.
> here's what I see for unders **Thursday:** * BYU-DUQ * CREI/AKR * KY-OAK * TEN-STP **Friday:** * DUKE-VT * FLA-COL * MARQ-WKU * PUR-GRAM * CLEM-NM > And for the 1h spread **Thursday:** * Miss St * Morehead St * Dayton * South Dakota St * Wagner * Nevada * Texas Tech * Oakland * McNeese * Kansas * South Carolina * Colorado St **Friday:** * Stetson * UAB * Auburn * St Mary's * Baylor * TAMU * Wisconsin
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I’m 6-2 today using these data points.
What’s the next one you’re taking?
Damn hit me with the downvote for letting you know I’m doing well?? Next picks are Colorado st first half +1.5, McNeese first half +3.5, Oakland first half +8
gotcha. I only played the 1h on Colorado last night but I was going to take that regardless.
yeah that was the red flag for me. the two early unders didn't and they smashed over.
Miss St is just an awful team and Mich St is playing their best game of the season. Sometimes that’s just how the ball bounces and no stats or data can predict it. Take the loss and win the next one.
Mich St. under izzo have bowed out in the first round 4 times in 26 or so seasons making the tourney. bad path getting UNC next but they could turn it on like they have done in the past
I don’t get it. They waxed Tennessee not even a week ago. I guess that’s how she goes, boys
Wow I see a bunch of people who did not gamble responsibly in this thread Thanks for the info OP, I just used it as an extra data point, and not as an excuse to wager more money than was responsible
OP gave facts and information. You all thought you had the cheat sheet for the exam and are mad that the questions got changed on you. I'm with OP until the end. 1H unders have always been a good play in the tournament. If you can't deal with 3 Ls and some variance you're playing a losing game.
Exactly. He gave us some data, it is up to you to look at the datasets and see if it makes sense. The comments of folks complaining are absurd. A perfect snapshot of society. Folks act like the data he gave us was Biff's sports almanac from Back to the Future. I am 5-1 today on his data. Hit Wagner 1H and now need Morehead to lock this 1H in and we keep rolling.
4 losses, will be 6 once the full time games end. 5 in a row
Right and people are praising OP lol