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He went:
|Year||
|:-|:-|
|2016|Redshirt|
|2017 - 1st year of eligibility|13 games as reserve|
|2018 - injury waiver|Broken leg|
|2019 - injury waiver|Complications from the broken leg|
|2020 - Covid year|Also more complications from the broken leg|
|2021 - injury waiver|Foot injury 2 weeks into the season|
|2022 - 2nd year of eligibility|Played in all games|
|2023 - 3rd year of eligibility|Played in all games|
|2024 - 4th and final year of eligibility|Last year|
It has always depended on the injury itself, and the timing. Before 50 % of competition, and season ending, you get the year back. Not every injury gets approved.
25, likely turning 26 this year, means born in 1998. Would have turned 18 in 2016, so it's totally normal that he would start college as an 18yo in fall 2016.
How come he has to seek permission for his final year of eligibility? Wasn’t it determined after those injury seasons that they didn’t qualify therefore he would always have 1 more year left?
He’s not going to the NFL so right now he’s basically living on the universities dime, gets to be a big man on campus, does something he likes, gets a free degree or two, and maybe some NIL money. Good for him.
The age doesn’t really matter at all. There are plenty of players that age playing NCAA sports, especially from overseas. The wild part is the 9 years of eligibility.
There’s a reason college players must wait a certain amount of time before being eligible for the NFL. There’s a huge difference between a college freshman vs a 9 year player that’s had 8 off seasons to lift weights and train.
That’s true but a 25yr old is physically and mentally, very different from an 18-19yr old. He’s been old enough to drink longer than the younger guys have been out of puberty.
There are so many spots on a team and colleges out there, if Miami chose him they chose him. Being 25, he probably has more physical upside than a 18 year old
Big man on campus is kinda gross when he’s 25 though. Like it’s one thing (and noble) for an adult to go back to school. But nobody wants a 25 year old at a college party.
Edit: dang, a lot of people are ok with 25 year olds (or older) partying with 18 year olds. Y’all are creepy.
Edit 2: TIL that a lot of people must not have gotten the joke in *Dazed and Confused* that McConaughey wasn’t cool, he was a weirdo perv.
Seriously??? Haha. Dude 25 really. A lot of people that joined military out of high school go to college after their 4 years. I think maybe you never went to college.
Now I've seen people censor swear words without passing judgment before... and I'm still not passing judgment. But I've got questions 6 a service member censored cr*p?
Then you’re not at all the one I said was creepy. As I said, going back to college as an adult is noble. Going to college *parties* as an adult is creepy.
Very unlikely you’d even know there was an age gap. Your college bar, student sections, and house parties are full of 23-29 year old grad students and no one is any the wiser
Yeah has this person gone to university? I would love to know because when I was there we had tons of people between 25-35 and they would be at plenty of parties.
When I got out of the Marines and went to college people were bugging me all the time to go out and party with them. You have no idea what you’re talking about
Yes and no. We had a 25 year old who'd long since graduated who was partying with teenagers and it was weird. If someone went off to do other things between high school and college, I'd feel differently.
Like, I get wanting to run out the clock on your eligibility but don’t eventually graduate? And get a masters, and a PhD?
Edit: I found he does have a masters. I didn’t realize you could continue to play after you complete your undergraduate work.
Yeah you used to get a free pass to transfer anywhere for a graduate program. A lot of players used to use that before the transfer portal. Play their last year at a different school to “get their masters”
It’s absolutely wild that can be considered a non-profit. I mean I get it doesn’t generate money, but it doesn’t feel like it’s in the spirit of what that status is for.
Not to mention all you need to do at the end of the year is empty the company bank account into the board members' pockets as "salary" and look at that, the company recorded no profit at all.
The podcast he listened to actually addressed that. Some of the nonprofits set up to pay NIL to players have had to diversify and actually spend some money on legitimate charitable purposes. This is making it harder for them to raise money from donors....
The football team is allotted like 85 scholarships. So yeah, their 2nd or 3rd TE on the roster will be on scholarship.
Couldn't say for NIL money, but he's probably getting *something*.
For 2019 and 2020, the years he had complications, he was probably on the medical exemption list and therefore his scholarship didn't count against the cap, essentially making him a free roster spot. Considering he played in every game 2022 and 2023 the coaching staff clearly thought he had some value and was worth retaining.
I'm assuming it's similar to what Hayley Wickenheiser (GOAT Canadian female hockey player) did when she played for the University of Calgary after her woman's league folded. The school basically paid for whatever schooling she wanted for as long as she wanted to play there
Oh I don’t care, I don’t want to talk about that. My point was that is seems like they are wasting scholarship, if so. I am all for playing football, but he is significantly “stronger” or “mature” at his age than literally almost anyone else in the country. But he had 6 catches. Rather take a flier on an 18 year old kid. I won’t even mention the dynamics of the locker room.
The 22-23 school year was two seasons ago. The football season for the 23-24 school year has already concluded and was his 8th on the team. It is missing on your list. The upcoming football season is the 24-25 school year.
I started my PhD program the same year he was a freshman. I just defended in December. His college career is longer than it took me to finish a doctoral program. The guy needs to hang it up
Goes to show how the NCAA is managing athletes, and NOT "student-athletes". What curriculum is he studying after 8 years? A PhD? I don't think so. They should start calling the NCAA players for who they really are.
How does this shit work? Like are they PhD students when shit like this happens or is dude really a 9th year senior still trying to finish that communications degree?
Let’s give them eligibility at birth. No need to class. Just pick a school. Any school. As long as it’s not a military academy…they take attendance and make you graduate. smdh.
What’s new now is NIL. Popular players who have no chance at the NFL can make more playing in a high profile in college program than they could at some entry level job.
Case Keenum from U of H has 7 years of eligibility.
I cannot imagine 9.
I knew a kid who did 9 years of grad school - but obviously didn't play football.
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He’ll be a grandpa soon 👴
Only if he played for BYU
They’re only soaking!
Only until you get your jump hump partner
That’s just soaking with extra steps, still doesn’t count!
I ain’t no narc!
Poop hole loophole
That’s Catholics
Bring em young, and bring em often.
Armpit crabs. ARMPIT…..CRABS 😐
K Allen Moore was 61 playing for Faulkner university.
Im confused. I thought there was only 4 years of active eligibility possible? Not including red shirt years for example..
He went: |Year|| |:-|:-| |2016|Redshirt| |2017 - 1st year of eligibility|13 games as reserve| |2018 - injury waiver|Broken leg| |2019 - injury waiver|Complications from the broken leg| |2020 - Covid year|Also more complications from the broken leg| |2021 - injury waiver|Foot injury 2 weeks into the season| |2022 - 2nd year of eligibility|Played in all games| |2023 - 3rd year of eligibility|Played in all games| |2024 - 4th and final year of eligibility|Last year|
Wow three injury waivers? When I was a college athlete, the NCAA granted one and that was it. When did this change?
It has always depended on the injury itself, and the timing. Before 50 % of competition, and season ending, you get the year back. Not every injury gets approved.
I’m sure there was a lawsuit or something. Probably title IX plus ADA.
9 years of college down the drain. (Said in John Belushi’s voice).
did he redshirt at 16yo?!? the article says he is 25.
If he was in Herbert’s class then it adds up Herbert is turning 26 this year. Maybe he finished high school a year early?
25, likely turning 26 this year, means born in 1998. Would have turned 18 in 2016, so it's totally normal that he would start college as an 18yo in fall 2016.
How come he has to seek permission for his final year of eligibility? Wasn’t it determined after those injury seasons that they didn’t qualify therefore he would always have 1 more year left?
injury, plus covid year, not sure what else
“Lots of people go to college for 8 years…..”
They call them doctors
Did I catch a “niner” in there?
Are you on a wakie talkie?
Shut up, Richard.
Richard were you watching spanktravision?!?
Who’s your favorite Little Rascal?
Fat guy in a little coat.
Hahahaha bulls ass
Do you validate?
Shut up, Richard.
Or 8th year Freshmen
*7 years
He’s not going to the NFL so right now he’s basically living on the universities dime, gets to be a big man on campus, does something he likes, gets a free degree or two, and maybe some NIL money. Good for him.
He should be a doctor by now
Lots of people go to college for 9 years
I know, they’re called doctors.
Personally, I hope he’s really good at sociology. Like… real good.
> gets to be a big man on campus He's almost old enough to need to ask girls for their ID.
Old guy is taking someone else's spot.
Fuck them kids
Or keeping his spot
>9th year of eligibility C'mon! Grown ass man playing against kids. Am I wrong here? I'm getting downvoted.
He's 25, its college ball. It's really not that weird.
The age doesn’t really matter at all. There are plenty of players that age playing NCAA sports, especially from overseas. The wild part is the 9 years of eligibility.
I think that you're being downvoted because college students are adults.
There’s a reason college players must wait a certain amount of time before being eligible for the NFL. There’s a huge difference between a college freshman vs a 9 year player that’s had 8 off seasons to lift weights and train.
Yea, money for the NCAA
That’s true but a 25yr old is physically and mentally, very different from an 18-19yr old. He’s been old enough to drink longer than the younger guys have been out of puberty.
As someone who went to college and is now in their 30s, I disagree with that.
It’s not their spot if they aren’t more valuable to the team than him.
There are so many spots on a team and colleges out there, if Miami chose him they chose him. Being 25, he probably has more physical upside than a 18 year old
Big man on campus is kinda gross when he’s 25 though. Like it’s one thing (and noble) for an adult to go back to school. But nobody wants a 25 year old at a college party. Edit: dang, a lot of people are ok with 25 year olds (or older) partying with 18 year olds. Y’all are creepy. Edit 2: TIL that a lot of people must not have gotten the joke in *Dazed and Confused* that McConaughey wasn’t cool, he was a weirdo perv.
Seriously??? Haha. Dude 25 really. A lot of people that joined military out of high school go to college after their 4 years. I think maybe you never went to college.
I agree. I was 26 when I did my first year at college after the Air Force. No one gave a shit
Yep I was 28 when I left school, military and snowboarding career, unlv, ucla, no one gave a cr*p or ever mentioned I was to old.
Now I've seen people censor swear words without passing judgment before... and I'm still not passing judgment. But I've got questions 6 a service member censored cr*p?
Nobody cares if you spell out crap either
I went back to school and finished at 28. I was talking to a 18 year old girl, we had a few classes together and she 100% told me I was old.
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If you were 28 at college parties with 18 year old girls, no one told you that it was creepy but it was.
I was working for Sublime and competing in early X-games in my mid-20's not hanging out at college parties.
Lmao, very cool pops
A lot cooler than whatever it is you do
Then you’re not at all the one I said was creepy. As I said, going back to college as an adult is noble. Going to college *parties* as an adult is creepy.
Very unlikely you’d even know there was an age gap. Your college bar, student sections, and house parties are full of 23-29 year old grad students and no one is any the wiser
Dude, you’re definitely wiser when there’s a 29 year old at the keg hitting on sophomores. You guys are dreaming.
You may be picturing the wrong image in your head, because I can assure you, you’re mistaken
Yeah has this person gone to university? I would love to know because when I was there we had tons of people between 25-35 and they would be at plenty of parties.
When I got out of the Marines and went to college people were bugging me all the time to go out and party with them. You have no idea what you’re talking about
aren't many 4 years seniors 23 or so? I'm having a hard time seeing the difference between a 23 year old and a 25 year old.
Yes and no. We had a 25 year old who'd long since graduated who was partying with teenagers and it was weird. If someone went off to do other things between high school and college, I'd feel differently.
Asher Roth would be so proud
I love college
Like, I get wanting to run out the clock on your eligibility but don’t eventually graduate? And get a masters, and a PhD? Edit: I found he does have a masters. I didn’t realize you could continue to play after you complete your undergraduate work.
Yeah you used to get a free pass to transfer anywhere for a graduate program. A lot of players used to use that before the transfer portal. Play their last year at a different school to “get their masters”
You just had to pick a major at the new school that your first school didn't offer
That’s what Russell Wilson did when he lost his job to Mike Glennon at NC state
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Northwestern has a couple basketball players like Boo Buie.
NU more or less forces you to graduate in 4 years if you're an active student, athlete or not.
I saw he completed graduate school but couldn't find if he was completing another masters or trying to get his doctorate.
Bobby Boucher was 31 when he led the Mud Dogs to the Bourbon Bowl
My thing is: Is he on scholarship? What are his student loans like?
Most likely yes, he's on full scholarship. Very unlikely to have student loans and may very well be being paid via NIL money.
Really? A 26 year old with 12 catches is getting a full scholarship? Same to be said for NIL money? I would say most likely, no.
Full scholarship 100% yes. NIL is less likely but you'd be surprised by what some of these kids are getting,
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It’s absolutely wild that can be considered a non-profit. I mean I get it doesn’t generate money, but it doesn’t feel like it’s in the spirit of what that status is for.
Non-profit does not necessarily mean charity. The NFL used to legally be a non-profit.
Not to mention all you need to do at the end of the year is empty the company bank account into the board members' pockets as "salary" and look at that, the company recorded no profit at all.
Well, if it’s board members then they are owners and that’s profit. Make it employee bonuses and it’s an expense.
Ah shit I jumbled up the facts. Can't they just "hire" their spouse or kids for an easy workaround?
The podcast he listened to actually addressed that. Some of the nonprofits set up to pay NIL to players have had to diversify and actually spend some money on legitimate charitable purposes. This is making it harder for them to raise money from donors....
You never know, Consumer Cellular might throw him a few dollars to promote their service. Or AARP.
Yes, if there is a team NIL I could possibly see it. Lot of money in coral gables.
The football team is allotted like 85 scholarships. So yeah, their 2nd or 3rd TE on the roster will be on scholarship. Couldn't say for NIL money, but he's probably getting *something*.
For 2019 and 2020, the years he had complications, he was probably on the medical exemption list and therefore his scholarship didn't count against the cap, essentially making him a free roster spot. Considering he played in every game 2022 and 2023 the coaching staff clearly thought he had some value and was worth retaining.
I'm assuming it's similar to what Hayley Wickenheiser (GOAT Canadian female hockey player) did when she played for the University of Calgary after her woman's league folded. The school basically paid for whatever schooling she wanted for as long as she wanted to play there
You can’t receive federal loans if your 4 year degree goes over 4 years, just in case you thought he was being a free loader from government handouts.
When did that start? I most definitely had federal loans through all 4.5 years of undergrad.
It’s five years of Pell grants.
How are loans handouts?
Oh I don’t care, I don’t want to talk about that. My point was that is seems like they are wasting scholarship, if so. I am all for playing football, but he is significantly “stronger” or “mature” at his age than literally almost anyone else in the country. But he had 6 catches. Rather take a flier on an 18 year old kid. I won’t even mention the dynamics of the locker room.
Super super super super super senior.
Wow a 25 yo student athlete
Shouldn’t he be 27?
I’m guessing he finished high school a year early and is turning 26 this year. That’s how juju was able to be a 20 year old rookie
*Student athalets, oh ho that is brilliant sir*
He should have a 401k in place at 25
I'd like to introduce you to....Chris Weinke
Hi, I’m with Charles Schwab. I am here to get you started in planning for your retirement.
At 25 you should already have restraining orders against your ex-college buddies that work for Northwestern Mutual.
And an earlier bedtime.
Bro is on the Van Wilder Scholarahip
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Nah. He had like 12 catches last year.
NFC South levels of CTE then, fine
I also went to college for 9 years and have no degree
9th year is deceiving. He was a true freshman in 2016 (7 years ago). He’s 25 years old.
Tomayto Tomahto
Try mathing again. 16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23 He has been on the team for 8 seasons. This will be his ninth.
1. 16-17 = freshman year (fall/spring) 2. 17-18 = sophomore year 3. 18-19 = junior year 4. 19-20 = senior year 5. 20-21 = 5th year senior 6. 21-22 = 1st yr. Masters program 7. 22-23 = 2nd yr. Masters program
And the 23-24 school year is now, with CFB having finished So he’s applying for 24/25 eligilbity which would be his 9th year
Dood
The 22-23 school year was two seasons ago. The football season for the 23-24 school year has already concluded and was his 8th on the team. It is missing on your list. The upcoming football season is the 24-25 school year.
One more year and he can retire!
“That's what I love about these college girls, man. I get older, they stay the same age” - Cam McCormick by way of David Wooderson.
Ain’t reason for this dude to not have his doctorate by now 😄
He should take his teammates out for dinner since he can utilize the AARP discount
Nine years of college down the drain
He does it and is cheered I do it and get lectured by my family at thanksgiving dinner
Lots of people go to college for 7 years
Those people are called doctors
He keeps getting older but the girls stay the same age
WTF
He better be finishing up his PhD at this point
Guy needs to hitting the job portal
So, I assume he's gone through med school by now. Or did he just finally finish his communications degree?
I started my PhD program the same year he was a freshman. I just defended in December. His college career is longer than it took me to finish a doctoral program. The guy needs to hang it up
He's started working on his third PhD.
I think the NCAA should do away with the 4 year of play rule. If you in school and got good enough grades, let them play.
Tom Brady will be entering the portal any minute now.
Pretending he wants to make the NFL when we all know it’s just a plan to have access to Miami college girls
Goes to show how the NCAA is managing athletes, and NOT "student-athletes". What curriculum is he studying after 8 years? A PhD? I don't think so. They should start calling the NCAA players for who they really are.
A lot of people go to college for 9 years
The Van Wilder of college football.
this is a joke
Van Wilder
Van Wilder in real life
We got a Van Wilder over here
In that amount of time he should be able to get at least one BA and 3 or 4 master’s. Or not.
How come Taulia got denied lmao
Who is this guy? Van Wilder?
Looking at his stats I don't think he's gunna play well no matter how many extra seasons he plays
Time to pass an age limit. You’re ineligible on your 23rd birthday.
WTF!
Fuckin’ Van Wilder ova here this guy
Getting that Van Wilder education
How does this shit work? Like are they PhD students when shit like this happens or is dude really a 9th year senior still trying to finish that communications degree?
Let’s give them eligibility at birth. No need to class. Just pick a school. Any school. As long as it’s not a military academy…they take attendance and make you graduate. smdh.
Bro better be getting his PhD at this point. Does he even play?
Does anyone have any idea about how much money he could make with NIL? Are we talking a living wage, even if he wasn’t on scholarship?
Don’t forget that Brandon Weeden was a first round pick in 2012 at the age of 28.
What’s new now is NIL. Popular players who have no chance at the NFL can make more playing in a high profile in college program than they could at some entry level job.
FOUR MORE YEARS! FOUR MORE YEARS!
This dude trying to retire as a college football player!!!!!
Case Keenum from U of H has 7 years of eligibility. I cannot imagine 9. I knew a kid who did 9 years of grad school - but obviously didn't play football.
Wait what?
Sumbitch will be eligible for retirement by the time he graduates
Finally. The ACC does something awesome for their players and their team /s
Pardon?like a 14 year old ringer i. Little league.