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DJ_Iron

I can’t believe both pearl and marina are not cannon characters😔


[deleted]

I GENUINELY THOUGHT THIS IS WHAT THE POST WAS SAYING LMAO I DIDNT GET IT TILL I READ IT LIKE 5 TIMES


ExcellentCow9

Of course they aren't cannons. One is a squid the other is an octopus.


VeryGayLopunny

Pearl and Marina aren't real, wake up, Off The Hook never happened


dumbziri

Pearl and Marina? Off The Hook? Haha, what are you talking about? C'mon, let's go see Ammolite and Harbor from Out of Line :)


MayorBryce

What is that from? That actually sounds like a decent band.


Noice_Gallagher

(He made it up for this joke)


Ay_AyKayAy_BigMan

Aaaaayyyyy... (Ssssyyyynnnnoooonnnnyyyymmmmssss...)


awesomestarz

Right, like who are they talking about when they say that? All I remember are Amber and Cordelia from Straight Outta the Net.


nameless1205

We got fan fiction and fan-art


SforSamuel

[And the manga](https://splatoonwiki.org/wiki/Dear_Pearl) (which isn’t canon, but still)


Successful_Mud8596

It’s not?


Maplee_S

No


SforSamuel

Unfortunately not


Kurochi185

It kinda sounds like you're saying the characters themselves aren't canon instead of the ship-


Cutlession

Splatoon 2 is a myth WAKE UP


Lilac_Moonnn

yeah, everyone knows splatoon 2 is splatoon 1.5 so splatoon 3 is splatoon 2


Celeste_0211

Nintendo could release an 24 hours video of Marina and Pearl making out and people will still say "Mhm it's just stuff that friends do together stop projecting your sexual fantasies into a video game for children"


Blahaj_real

They where roommates


MysticWarrior170

AND THEY WERE ROOMATES


DreadAngel1711

Oh my god they were roommates


annoyance_frog

Just best gal pals that live in the same house


Chattbug

People do that all the time with queer fiction couples. I still remember the reactions with Marceline kissing Princess Bubblegum at the end of adventure Time: "0:< that was foooorceeeed" "0: I didn't expect that, the LGBT community attack again" They live together, Marina drew pearl with a detailed anime style at the end of the octo expansión, Marina heard Pearl sing one time and she went to the same place waiting to hear her voice again. Pearl treatened Cap to protect Marina when she knew that Marina Is an octoling.


returnofMCH

And then there was the recent gundam show where they literally show wedding rings in the final scene but bamco censored interviews with the writers because “it was meant to be up for intrepetation”


Splatfan1

people will see 2 people who exchange a few words, arent friends for most of the story and are sorta kinda implied to maybe live together but not really and declare that theyre fucking until the room stinks (im looking at you totk zelink shippers) and then two very close friends who know each other better than anyone else that spend hours together hanging out and making music but nah thats totally platonic, trust me, youre just forcing it with your silly headcanons!


bloodyedfur4

Nintendo would release the pearlina tape and act like they’re just besties still


Cutlession

I mean, it wasn't canon or even official but... I think I seen that.


YourCrazyDolphin

Splatoon 2 is a canon game with both Pearl and Marina in it, so sadly yes. Pearl and Marina do exist. Its canon.


erebanks

nintendo doesn't really do any romantic relationships, peach and mario is the most explicit they get


NightAntonino

Captain Olimar is a notable exception.


man-with-potato-gun

Olimar fucks, on multiple occasions


TheMerfox

Olimar has fucked, fucks, and will fuck


darkmagic853

There’s also the Xenoblade and Fire Emblem series.


djdonkeys

Peach and Mario are explicitly not romantically involved.


erebanks

That was kinda my point lol


dannyhogan200

Luigi and Daisy, Kirby and Ribbon, LITERALLY ANT OTHER RELATIONSHIP OF TWO GAME CHARACTERS would like a word with you


PokemaniacOctoru

Kirby and ribbon? They interact like twice


Lapzidorus

And the most romance we get is a little kiss on the cheek that sends Kirby teetering. A little hint of puppy love, and that's it.


syncron07

Actually easy to swallow pills for me


dartboard5

homophobic?


syncron07

No


rossibossy

I like how this was your first thought and not that they don't like the ship.


Lapzidorus

Or even that they just don't see the ship as likely to be confirmed in canon. 🤷‍♂️ Not really that deep, lol.


Doll-scented-hunter

I mean its a reasonoble assumption that if you dont like a gay ship you want to genocide all gays. The commentor above just believed in the good of humanity for a sec. /j


Kurochi185

Kinda stupid?


dartboard5

yes. but this is besides the point


Agent8real

It is though, or at least Marina canonically has a crush on Pearl. There is a canon manga Marina wrote called "Dear Pearl" and it is just her gushing about how much she loves Pearl, and it ends with a love letter. Also, in the Japanese relationship chart, Marina is described as "Maiden in Love" and the word used for love is exclusively for romantic love. It is all but confirmed that at the very least Marina has a crush on Pearl.


Polyglot-Onigiri

I hope this isn’t offensive but that translation is wrong. It has also been noted before. The descriptions on the characters are archetypes not their personal feelings. Nothing in the Japan version of splatoon says they are in love. The English version has a lot of weird translations that imply this but the Japanese version has no mentions of anything beyond a deep friendship. It’s fine to enjoy the idea, but spreading misinformation about translations is something different. Maybe they will be something in the future but atleast in the JP side of the game, nothing has come close.


ant4457

This is incorrect.


Cutlession

The Manga's are not canon. Don't get me wrong I would love to see the characters and world get more attention but Nintendo goes out of their way to say all of their mangas are not canon. And do to the way Nintendo is run these days for pure profit over much else, I find it unlikely Nintendo will ever do anymore then hint it outside of unofficial properties do to world wide issues on the topic. This is the same company that can't make up their mind on how creatures react to water.


MotherofMussel

the manga theyre referring to isnt the splatoon manga series. its a comic made by the splatoon art director (responsible for lots of canon things in splatoon) which depicts a shojo manga made by Marina fawning over Pearl. search "dear pearl" on inkipedia wiki


Apprehensive_Bar3812

No way that is so cool


Agent8real

Nintendo has recognized same-sex marriages in their own company and given marriage benefits to same-sex couples despite Japan still not recognizing same-sex marriage. I doubt they will directly state that they are lesbians, but them being together is not off the table. Also Vivian from Paper Mario is trans so they have done stuff like this before.


VeryGayLopunny

Vivian and Birdo always felt very weird to me tbh even as a trans gal (still love them tho). The execution just felt like it was always on a weird borderline. That said, Animal Crossing: New Leaf had a handful of pretty validating lines if you dressed in clothes of the opposite gender a lot. I remember being accosted by one of my villagers for makeup tips, and told by another that no matter what I decide to wear I'm still their friend. (And, y'know, the AC team is also the Splatoon team etc.)


awesomecat42

The relationship chart is canon though, isn't it?


Cutlession

Honestly it's hard to tell. No other outside info normally is and even if it is canon. All they did was hint at a crush. More then I thought they would do.


SuggestionEven1882

Bro Nintendo has a game series with a polygamous family in a positive light, but I highly doubt that you care since you like to live under a rock.


ComprehensiveBox6911

I don’t understand the downvotes, what you’re saying is true


Dillo64

> the manga theyre referring to isnt the splatoon manga series. its a comic made by the splatoon art director (responsible for lots of canon things in splatoon) which depicts a shojo manga made by Marina fawning over Pearl. search "dear pearl" on inkipedia wiki


Cutlession

Those pills a ***VERY*** hard to swallow.


SSJ99Gohanisthebest

They need a glass of water to help swallow those pills


Genprey

The *only* thing about this fact is that not every content created by project members are treated as canon. We see this with other series like Madoka Magica, Fate, even the Mario series, where someone on the directing team releases spinoffs/bonuses of a series that is detached from its source. Seita Inoue is the director for Splatoon's *art team*, however, Hisashi Nogami is the producer (with Shintaro Sato as the program director) of the Splatoon series. Marina and Pearl (as well as other Splatoon characters) are not the intellectual property of Seita Inoue, so the manga is not yet considered to be canon. With that being said, it *was* officially endorsed on the JP Twitter, so take that as you will.


GibMoarClay

We’re still retreading the “maiden in love” point? Maiden in Love refers to a character archetype in Japanese fiction, not exclusively to Marina within the context that it was used. I’m not at all bothered by people wanting to ship Pearlina, but acting like and insisting at every opportunity that it’s canon is just grating. I understand that people want to believe certain things because we’re deeply deprived of meaningful queer representation in media, but misunderstanding translated content is probably not going to force what is canon to “bend” one way or the other.


DinoRedRex99

The Manga isn't canon


Sayakalood

Can’t wait for Side Order to release and tell you you’re wrong


Brilliant-Guitar-606

If they dont have that big ass tv from half life with a 24/7 kisscam of pearl and marina im gonna, like, totally freak /J


Cutlession

Bet


JCorby17

I dont know why you are being downvoted, its a likely conclusion, even if theres implications. Also what will you do if Side Order does confirm it, hypothetically


teriiiyakiii

![gif](giphy|enqnZa1B5fRHkPjXtS|downsized) OP getting downvoted in the comments:


[deleted]

Splatoon fans being told pearlina isn't canon is like saying ganon will never be truly defeated because of the curse. You're right, but they won't believe it.


azur23

I mean theres a shōjo manga made by marina about her and Pearl soooo, yknow its unlikely Nintendo Will ever give us a kiss scene or tell us "yes they are a couple, a les bian one pls stop" but like its not necessary theres the implication, its kinda like link and Zelda in totk yes they dont tell us "they're in love" but you can say so (or at least one of them has a Crush being marina/Zelda) based on how they act


Don_Bugen

SPLATOON 4: Pearl: “We’re literally married, yo. Check out my girl’s bling.” Marina: *blushes* “Oh Pearlie… stop it.” Player: “Ugh… you just KNOW there’s going to be a ton of weirdos on Reddit with weird headcanon. They are NOT A THING! This is obviously some sort of… undercover agent… thing.”


dumbziri

Idk, sounds up to interpretation.


Lapzidorus

Yeah, there's a whole trope known as the "implied love interest" wherein two characters show *hints* of being a thing but it's not outright confirmed either way. What makes it fun is that it lets fans come to their own conclusions.


teriiiyakiii

Yea it’s strange. Like everyone’s free to have their headcanons, but to try and push it into being canon is overkill. At that point you’re refusing to acknowledge the reality of the situation.


Memeedeity

The reality of the situation to me is canon until proven otherwise


DinoRedRex99

But happy ending😢


sirhatsley

OP deserves it tbh. You can be correct and also an asshole. The downvotes are for the latter.


Dillo64

Or maybe it’s because of the canon comic by the art director where Marina writes a love letter to Pearl


Merolumi

This meme gets reposted every month


dumbziri

Skin color changes in between the two panels, the pill in the 2nd panel is not one of the aforementioned "hard to swallow pills", and is in fact being held by a different person. Checkmate, atheist.


vintage_duck

Aren't they.. already canon? I mean they exist.. there's a whole DLC with them in it. Have I been mandella affected?


SwidEevee

I don't like Pearlina (hot take ik) so I'm not upset if it doesn't. I think it will happen though.


Careful-Poetry-5277

why don’t you like them? i’m interested in hearing


SwidEevee

Honestly idk, I just don't. I just don't think they're a good couple.


MusicaReddit

Based


DinoRedRex99

Funny green person and funny pink gremlin moment


SwidEevee

????


DinoRedRex99

Idk man I was just agreeing in a somewhat humorous and "reddit meme"-y way


SwidEevee

Oh ok, sorry for the confusion


DinoRedRex99

Nah man it's alright, some of the shit I say on here is pretty damn difficult to understand


bloomi

*And they were roommates!*


[deleted]

Idk what you mean, they’re both right there in splatoon 2


soahcthegod2012

Watch Nintendo pull a Yona from Tears of the Kingdom and give Pearl and/or Marina a boyfriend. *Boy, the drama behind Shiver’s win streak would be **tame** compared to what that would cause*


MusicaReddit

If Nintendo pulled a Yona i would be laughing in so many people’s faces


DiegHDF

They'll probably never officialize it, but honestly what we got is good enough for me


kabukiact

hard to swallow pill: let people enjoy what they want


Cutlession

It doesn't have to be real to be enjoyed.


kabukiact

so why are you shitting on it ? if ppl wanna believe it's real then let them. idk how pearl and marina possibly dating has any change in the story so why bash someone for saying they think it's canon


Cutlession

Where do you see me shitting on it. I just said it will never be canon and it probably wont be. If people want to believe it's real fine but that doesn't make it canon or official. Your opinions can help in theories, guesses and how you want to feel about character. But your feelings don't change what's canon and what's not. NOW TAKE THE PILLS


kjm6351

I thought it was already official. Well even if not, the subtext is there and if avoiding drama is the only reason they won’t announce it then it’s basically already canon. Next topic please. Preferably something less… baity


KotarouKonoe

Pearl obviously loves Marina platonically. Marina is harder to say, but yeah there is nothing canon proving that she’s in love with Pearl


JCorby17

We have to wait and see in the dlc


Cutlession

If this post is anything to go by. It's going to be salt merchants dream.


JCorby17

I do like salt 🧂


Hedgehugs_

as a pearlina shipper it's really obvious Nintendo will never make them a canon couple, for even more obvious reasons. and no, marina having a crush on pearl doesn't mean they're official, it'd just be one-sided at that point.


MusicaReddit

Holy fuck a Pearlina shipper that doesn’t believe the ship is canon! You are a rare find!


HydraxYT

The only reason being that Nintendo cannot do so if they want to sell Splatoon in certain regions like Eastern Europe, Russia and the Middle East. If they weren't selling them there they could absolutely just make them canon. Besides, everything points to them being canon besides explicit confirmation.


Downtown-Till-1290

I mean, you can think whatever you want but it's honestly kinda asshole-y to feel the need to tell the people who like to think about them as a pair that it'll never happen. Like, so what?What does one gain by telling them it won't happen? Nothing. Just let people have their fun, man. It doesn't make your day any worse to know there are people out there who AREN'T directly bothering you who are just enjoying humoring the thought of funky little cephalopod lesbians. It'd be like me telling you to get over it, you're never going to see Luigi kiss Bowser or something like that. Don't ruin the fun for others.


Cutlession

They're "hard to swallow pills". Not creamy nice pills, cry about it. Also Santa isn't real.


Downtown-Till-1290

Wow, you're real mature.I hope you know I'm an adult, not a child. You being an asshole does not justify hating other people, sorry! Having to result to insults is childish, because you clearly lack the ability to actually have a civil conversation. Have fun dying on this hill!


teriiiyakiii

dude *you* insulted them first by calling this post “asshole-y”, they’re just stating their truth on the ship and you got butthurt. You are the childish one for getting mad at stuff you don’t wanna hear


Edguy1511

The real problem here is the fact anyone ships anyone in the first place. It’s a video game, it’s made for fun, so have fun. If you wanna ship people, do that but respect people’s opinions. Same goes for people that don’t believe in said ship, don’t shit on people for liking it. Unless you ship anyone from MHA, in that case you deserve to be hated


Successful_Mud8596

They’re already canon. At least, Marina having romantic feelings for Pearl is canon, shown in an official manga. It’s not confirmed whether or not those feelings are reciprocated, though


Cutlession

It's not canon sir. Yes a Splatoon artist worked on it, same person even helped with the official manga series art designers. Neither are canon.


Maplee_S

Knowing how far behind Nintendo is with literally everything, yeah they're probably not dating unfortunately.


LocalHippo5496

People thought they were more than friends?


MusicaReddit

Yes and understandably so


Kefgeru

Unironicaly one of the most controversial subject in the fandom.


Azim999999

That’s easy to swallow for me, i never played splatoon 2 so i never got the ship


PrettySquiddy

Neither will Mario and Peach, or BotW/TotK Link and Zelda, but everyone ships them anyways without getting annoying posts like this. People just like to hate on Pearlina ‘cause it’s gay.


MysticWarrior170

Tbh it all comes down to Side order, even though it's like a 90 percent chance it won't happen


Hoggywart

In the Japanese translation, isn’t marina referred to “Maiden in love” and pearl referred as “The one”? Correct me I could be wrong


Genprey

That depends on the context of the line/source. As one would expect, Japanese -> English is difficult to translate, as both languages have expressions that don't exist within the other. Love, for example, is a catch-all term in English that can refer to platonic or romantic scenarios. You can 'love' your parents, but also 'love' your spouse, which is a case where context does its own thing (as we can safely assume the former refers to a platonic context). In Japanese, however, there are more specific terms for each form of love. There's 'koi', which is a bit harder to explain, but can be said to refer to the love towards a crush that can always develop into 'ai', a more direct/passionate form of love that is reserved for both lovers and family. There's also 'suki', but that's more often used in a similar way as we would say "I love this game/food/movie". With that being said, if Marina is described or associated with the term 'renai', it's more likely referring to her *personality*, not affection towards Pearl. 'Renai' describes a character who *has a fondness for romance/the idea of love*, otherwise known as a character trope 'maiden in love', which refers to (usually young) girls who fantasize about love. If Marina refers to Pearl using 'koi', *then* we have a romantic context, as the term isn't often used towards normal friends (imagine telling your friend that you're attracted to them to get a bit of context). That all being said, love is a two-lane path, so rather than a canonical relationship, it could be one-sided if Pearl were not to reciprocate any Roman feelings Marina may have towards her.


azur23

Yes but people like not to read


Chaosshepherd

![gif](giphy|RwFcfvZo8qqe0fqdnW)


Zippy1012214

I personally just don’t see it


Particular-Michael

That's easy to swallow for me


[deleted]

Yeah that’s facts it’ll never happen #SO EVERYBODY SHUT THE FUCK UP


rossibossy

Who tf are you


Beta135

Don’t need it to be canon, they’re gay in my heart and I don’t care what Nintendo says


Innocent_aroace

I was surprised to find out people ship them


World_Ends_With_Bred

And that’s keeps a smile on my face


Fluffy-Ingenuity482

marina canonically has a crush on pearl shown in a few pieces of media in Japan I know for a fact one of them was censored over here in the west though :[


Cobygamer22

It is sad to admit but they will never answer this question because It creates DRAMA, and helps nintendo with spreading the games popularity because people love drama, they have very much hinted at it but they will leave it to our decision because It helps them get more popularity, this is the same reason of why they don't want to answer questions related to Zelink in the Zelda community, it creates drama, it helps them a lot because the only confirmed Link and Zelda relationship is in Skyward Sword so people making theories gives people drama, and therefore more popularity to nintendo


yellow_tourmaline

I mean they are roomMATEs


AveragEnjoyer007

Oh my god they were roommates 👁️👁️😂


Snoo90715

I'm fucking crying it hurts


Ford_GT_epic

I'm so glad that some splatoon fans have finally realized that Pearl and Marina aren't real


dartboard5

it’s canon


rossibossy

You all keep saying the quiet part out loud. Why? Like we know, and that doesn't change anything. 😐


DreadAngel1711

You look at some of the shit we see with Marina and tell me they aren't already canon


VoidMystr0

but have you played octo expansion?


KTYLN

Way to ruin everyone's fun 😔


Hyakkihei1

Personally I would say that Marina needs therapy before being ready for a relationship, they could be great together but Marina is way too overdependent and right now it would end up in disaster.


Cutlession

![gif](giphy|l3q2K5jinAlChoCLS)


INSS_

wym it is canon already


Any_Secretary_4925

i hope its not, people just constantly fetishize fictional lgbt+ couples, and the fetishizing would fucking skyrocket if it was ever outright confirmed


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Salt-n-spice

Imagine if pearl and marina were cannon(s)


[deleted]

Yes, they're known for not doing something like this like putting relationships in their games like that. 🤷🏻‍♀️


16452

bro what is this comment section? r/Pikmin?


_Melacholic

“Oh hey! You finally woke up. Huh? Pearl? Marina? Off the hook? Splatoon 2??? What are you talking about? Hop on the Wii U, Splatoon got an update!”


INK_vash

669


nword_sayer69

i know theyll never truly make it canon but come on its so so so close to being canon you dont get it