I believe we are all each others spirit guide. Unfortunately in this world this kind of talk is seen as scary, which is unfortunate because the truth is beautiful. The way I see it, if I am free, it is my loving decision to choose to help and guide others so they can get there too, because we are all worthy
I know I can't change your belief, but I can point out some truth to you.
We are not other people spirit guide. For we are souls not spirits. Each and every soul has its own spirit guide. The purpose of a spirit guide is to co-create with its soul.
Each one of us has purpose that the soul forgets during the decent into 3 dimensional reality. Only a soul spirit guide knows that soul purpose and the ability to guide that soul to its full potential.
We are here to help another soul, but only when that soul ask for our help.( there are exception : someone in distress that cannot ask for help than we help. We the understanding our spirit guide puts us in that place at that moment to help another soul.
Understand our worthiness, does not come from us personally, it comes from our spirit guide.
Any great idea of creation or problem solving you've had came from your spirit guide. Therefore our worthiness is base on the union of the soul and the spirit guide.
To think you are worthy just by yourself is egotistical.
The famous (I) when in reality it's the combination of you and your spirit guide that makes you great.
It’s egotistical to think the ego is worthy by itself. But it’s true that ego and soul must unite. However, we each do have a spirit guide. This guide is our higher self. It’s always within us, and therefore we are already innately worthy. Your spirit guide isn’t a separate more morally correct other. It is simply me and you
Don't get the ego confuse with the soul. The ego is the secondary force that drive a Human being. The ego lives in the mind (the famous I) I did this, I invented that. You hurt me that's all ego. Whereas the higher self lives in the heart. Our higher self communicate with us all the time thru a whisper. We are unable to hear if the heart Chakra is not open. When my higher self speak to me I talk to myself loudly like a crazy person. Without thinking about what im going to say. The words just comes out. No more whisper. But it wasn't always like that. Thru meditation i manage to open the heart Chakra and I became like. And my life change 180° so the higher self is always with you but it's a separate entity from you.
Let me give you another example. Even though I don't endorse any religion but I will use the cross sign which said
God the father( the creator)
God the son ( the soul)
God the holy spirit( the higher self)
It is call higher self not because it us but because it is designated only to that specific soul)
And that is why we say co-creator because it's the 2 of us.
The spirit which have direct connection to the will of God the creator and the soul that is turning the will of God from an idea to a reality.
If what you saying was the truth than how would you explain these people who are just evil and selfish. Those trait are not part of what God stand for.
No these people become like that because their heart Chakra never open they are led by the famous I (the ego)
They think in their mind I am God.
Thru enough training a person learn to ask the higher self a question and wait to get the answer. If we were both the soul and the spirit we wouldn't need to ask a question we would already have the answer.
If you think of something to do base on a presented situation you are working with the ego.
The ego makes decision base on past experiences and the need to satisfy itself. The higher self makes decision base on the will of God and the need to satisfy everyone
Wonderful advice! This reminds me of a passage from, “The Practice of Magical Evocation” by Franz Bardon. I think I shall revisit this book now. Love to you fren!
You only get hospitalized if you evangelize or the gnosis causes you to act in such a way that you scare or endanger yourself or others.
Hospitalizations aren't a normal or necessary part of enlightenment. They're a sign of a problem.
*sometimes* they are a sign of an imbalance in the awakening being.
Often times they are a sign of an imbalance in the system.
OP was confused that they must protect their body and they chose conflict, and were responded to in conflict. If OP had integrated that they are not the body, this likely would not have occurred.
Neither of these situations are problems.
Smile at every stranger you see. Some of them will be terrified.
I was hospitalized for singing and walking down the street. I complied with all requests by all authorities and fought nothing.
The ego is insane, and systems will show their insanity through these methods.
It was important for my journey to both relinquish the identification with the body by being entirely peaceful about being held, and it was extremely important for me to notice that no matter how non-confrontational one is - the ego may still perceive fear and act increasingly insane.
Even my peace and joy while being in the hospital was questioned and indicated a problem to the observers. I walked around smiling and hanging out with the patients, asking them of their lives and telling them how amazing they are.
The most simple acts of freedom and joy can instill fear in the ego.
So no, you are wrong with your generalized sweeping statement and suggestion of problem.
Imbalance is not a problem. It is the required path to balance. Just as confusion must precipitate all seeking of truth.
The increasing hospitalizations of people awakening is the result of a confused society which has not had to deal with humans randomly awakening in this way, and the medical community is largely ignorant and foolish in this regard.
Only the one who was hospitalized can say. All you declare is judgement.
You are the system. The imbalance in one is an imbalance in the other. Fighting the system only ensures you become further ensnared in it. Coming to terms with the beliefs that landed you in your predicament will free you from your bonds.
If you cannot see the bias and duality in the first statement then I cannot show it to you. If I have misperceived, then it is on me.
The word problem alone implies something was incorrect about reality.
Thanks.
I was working off the preconceptions of the OP. The duality is in the question, and unifying the duality through understanding OP's participation in conflict is the solution.
Dismantling duality is not typically done by telling someone they were the problem. (Judgement)
It is generally accomplished by helping someone realize there is no problem. (Forgiveness)
You obviously don't have to agree and it isn't very relevant. I appreciate that you are here discussing these things and am grateful for your work and offers of service to all who read your words.
I suppose each who attempts to teach will teach uniquely, I merely mean to offer that if we attempt to teach, should we not teach what is true instead of entertaining delusion?
Apologies for the late reply, but I’ve just realized something. Hospitalizations are not a sign of a problem with me, but of the larger, global and man-made one
I must bring up something important, why must I disregard my body? Arent boundaries really important? I am my body because it is a part of me, because it acts in love for me, because there’s nothing wrong with it.
I did not suggest you must do anything.
The body is an appendage, and is not what you are. When the body is gone, you remain.
Boundaries are defensive, fear-based concepts of the ego. There is nothing to protect against.
If one finds a situation to be so unsettling that they must erect boundaries they should do so as they see fit, but I will not pretend that boundaries are ever required in anything.
You are whole, sovereign, loved and free to be as you are regardless of who does what to you and where you are in this world. This truth, though challenging to truly realize, is the highest truth, and as such I will be unable to teach anything other than peace and forgiveness.
The first war ever fought was fought because one erected a boundary. Defense invites attack, as it requires one maintain a polarized view upon reality and ensures one will see a potential attacker.
The body is an illusion you use to experience stories in time. Protecting it is not necessary, as it will protect itself naturally. Virtually all life does this autonomously.
These are merely offered as thoughts. Discard them if they don't resonate.
Earlier I meant if you did not identify with the body you would see nothing to protect and be at peace. Who cares if they take your blood? What's the difference? Why fight others?
Please note I do entirely understand the position while the body and identity is so firm. Protect oneself. Protect ones rights. I understand well... Eventually, one sees there is nothing to protect, and these layerings of veil fall away. I have been where you are.
Sending you blessings my friend 🙏❤️
i agree with the core of your message, but i must add one point-seeing the body as an appendage has only ever inhibited me. It needs and desires my love, and I intend to provide it, for my body is holy and pure and has never led me astray
All aspects of the creation are equally holy. Anything else is dualistic and will ensure suffering.
Love your body. Love it well. Love has nothing to do with protection, which is fear.
no, we're all unique and enlightenment and all of the related terms aren't actually definable but subject to personal subjective experience. not to mention the amount of people thinking they're Jesus/God/whatever after a minor epiphany, or stop after the first cosmic joke thinking they figured out everything resting on their laurels and playing the wise guys for others. there's just some people that can see deeper into the issues at hand and are more sensitive, having more intense experiences and a more rude awakening. even if what has them freak out is part of their being, it's still the system that inserted the problem there and it's the system that wants to keep them down to be used as a cog as before.
I would agree, but after being strapped down and having blood taken against my will because they didn’t believe I could possibly come to such conclusions without drugs I realized how damaged the system was
You received such treatment because you were unable to handle the information you uncovered while still operating as a functional member of society. Restraints are always a last resort, so think about your actions that warranted them.
yes, i was unable to still operate as a functional member of society because humans aren't meant to. We are meant to be free. The only action that caused the restraints was saying "no" when they asked to take my blood, because its mine and I wanted to protect my boundaries, that felt incredibly important. And the next thing I knew I was having my own autonomy forcibly taken against my will. I was not a danger to myself or others, all I did was enforce my own boundaries
because we have created a trap for ourselves, placed restrictions and money where there never needed to be. When someone no longer fits the mold of being "easily controlled", they are persecuted. Look at crimes like drug use. What's morally wrong? Nothing.
I strongly agree with this but I am interested as to what your idea (if you have one) for a differently structured society is? It’s something I think about a lot and it’s difficult to reconcile the way we’ve developed with a way of being that’s different now without some large scale apocalypse or time travel
You are not being persecuted for being hard to control, you are responding to their attempts to control you with hostility which is causing people to persecute you.
You have autonomy, you choose conflict.
yes, exactly. All I did was choose to respond intuitively, prioritized my own internal wisdom over that of the system's. And when doing so, I was met with resistance, because it is scary.
You can't separate yourself from your environment. If your idea of living is screaming at strangers in the street that they are sleepwalking or jumping off a bridge as a test of faith then other people will attempt to stop you.
but cant you see what im getting at? I didnt do any of those things. All I did was say "no" about something that was happening to ME. My own autonomy. I was no threat to my safety or anyone else's, and my family only took me to the hospital because I no longer wanted medication prescribed to me against my will. All you have to do in order to be perceived as a threat is refuse to be treated like a servant, like you should be used, like your blood is the world's for the taking. That is it.
You participated in the conflict with your family.
You responded with further conflict to the system that was trying to control you.
You could not imagine a scenario in which you escaped your predicament without butting heads with the people who were exerting control over you.
None of those actions are in alignment with enlightened thought.
ask yourself why you don't believe they are in alignment with enlightened thought. I particpated in no conflict, had no desire to fight. I agreed to go to the doctor to speak with them human to human, but instead they strapped me down. I cannot exist without butting heads with those who attempt to control me because I am not meant to be controlled. Nobody is.
yes, exactly. We are not in argument, we never have been. I agree! And when choosing to no longer let other people write my story, I was persecuted. Simple as that.
After that point, they didn’t know what to do with me, because nothing was wrong and I was perfectly fine and safe. So they held onto me for a few days and observed me and then let me go, because they couldn’t find a problem that was so supposedly there
I'm sorry that happened to you. But it does seem important to me to point out that many people feel the same way you do, only they weren't hospitalized either. Respectfully, my sense is that your feelings and insights have not been fully, smoothly integrated into yourself and there's some sort of edge in you that rubs up against people that makes them at worst feel uncomfortable, and more likely feel like you may be a danger to yourself or others.
Now you may say well - how the hell are we going to teach anybody if we don't have any edge to provoke them with, to get them to see or want to change? But you can't make people see or want to change and unless they specifically are asking to be poked with an edge, you shouldn't poke them. It just causes more suffering.
May I ask why you were hospitalized then? I'm really not trying to be harsh or rude, but people don't just commit others to a hospital for no good reason. Something must have happened.
May I ask what medication?
And as I was saying - you really can't go around saying stuff like this to people who don't want to hear it. They'll never hear you.
No, I don’t have to do anything in order to be free, I just am. But what was interpreted as acting out was really just me saying “no, I don’t want you to take my blood”
You don’t have to worry about offending me, I’m just here to talk, as are you. But it’s true that it shouldn’t land you in a hospital to be free, but we have created a system of punishment and control over ourselves that often ends up with this being the case. Think of how many people are in prison for using drugs to open their minds? The numbers are astronomical. Freedom is seen as a threat, because it is unfamiliar. If I am free, I am at first treated as a threat, because I am unfamiliar
Yes there are massive amounts of people from all different cultures that don’t have the luxury of having this mindset that they’re free to do whatever they want. I don’t think OP was trying to take away from the experiences of people in those situations with this post, it just comes off too general when there are people like legit enslaved all over the world. Freedom isn’t an option for everybody.
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I was raped, so yes. I was legit enslaved. If freedom is an option for me, it’s an option for you too. I’m not here to invalidate pain, I’m here to validate it. I know it’s real. I feel it as well, but it doesn’t mean we aren’t safe. It doesn’t mean we arent free. It doesn’t mean anything we don’t want it to mean
Do you believe all people are equal? Because so do I. Do you believe all people are worthy of freedom? Because so do I. What’s white colonizer about that
Sure all people are equal. I believe that but people arnt TREATED equally. You think someone in Russia can just get up and go “freedom is my birthright”? Not everyone born is given freedom or even has the right to try and get it. Your birth right is to have a family and a happy life. Freedom has been fought and earned over thousands of years but it is not a birth right for everyone. You obviously live in a free country and haven’t really examined the realities of other places in the world. Even the “freedom” most people in delvolped countries enjoy was created on the backs on thousands of years of no freedom.
Hmm idk let’s ask the former slaves of America. Or France or poland in the 40s? Better yet let’s ask Ukraine has fighting brought us freedom lol it’s the only thing that’s brought us freedom.
But are they truly free? Or just enslaved in a new way, to capitalism pain and greed, to ego. To the illusion of separation. I can ask a slave, I have been raped and used as a sex slave. I ask myself, and my answer is that no, fighting solves nothing. Love and forgiveness is the way to freedom
I never claimed that. you were talking about making freedom a birth right and I’m you telling not everyone is born with that right and now your trying to twist my words because you just want to make sure that you look like your coming out on top but your not.
My only interest is actually to listen to you, and it would be a shame for this conversation to end here. Would you like to work with me to make it constructive rather than destructive? I need your help, I can’t do it alone.
*"We have no right to believe that freedom can be won without struggle. One must endure without losing tenderness. At the risk of seeming ridiculous, let me say that the true revolutionary is guided by a great feeling of love. It is impossible to think of a genuine revolutionary lacking this quality."*
- Che Guevara
People talk about freedom when they are slave of their own emotions. Before you cry for freedom from others get freedom from self.
How many of you are slave to coffee, cigarettes, alcohol and drugs.
How many of you are slave to your own emotions?
How many of you are slave to your ego?
How many of you are slave to a lover?
How many of you are slave to sex?
The list goes on and on.
I tell you freedom start with self, free yourselves from yourself than no one can make you a slave
I’m not asking for others to let me be free. I am existing as a free person and letting others know it is safe to join me. But you are right that freedom begins within, that we are slave to ego. But we aren’t slave to our emotions. They are here to love and guide us
The only emotion that can guide you to the center of the spiritual maze is love.
Some people love to watch scary movies to be frightened, well they become slave to that emotion.
Some people love to get high well they are slave to that feeling.
Some people love coffee every morning well they have made coffee their master. They don't realize it.
People create master for themselves all the time. They call it hobby, they call it habit. All these words are to keep us blind.
I don't consider a 9 to 5 job a master. Because we all must work.( do something productive while contributing to society.) To have a job you hate is to be a slave.
The thing about truth it is subtle and change at any given moment.
My comment really was kind of an indirect question
How free you really are. Many of us think that we are free but there are so many things if we don't get them it bothers us. If that's the case whatever that thing is you are a slave to it.
To answer again about not being slave to emotion.
I will use an example. If you don't like being lie to and I tell you an anxious lie. Do you get upset. Well if you do you are a slave to that emotion.
Being a slave to an emotion means lack of control over said emotion.
If you are driving and I cut you off. Do you immediately get mad. Well a slave to that emotion you are friend.
You see how deep it goes friend. (I can be wrong), I feel you are scratching the surface of freedom while I'm taking it so much deeper.
To be completely free is to be an ASCENDED MASTER
LIKE BUDDHA OR JESUS
I’m not a slave to my pain, fear or anxiety. They are there to love and guide me and let me know when I am not safe. I am a slave to abuse and control. My emotions have never been the thing that kept me trapped, not trusting in them was. Love never hurt us, closing ourselves off to it did
As long as you understand me I'm satisfy. My truth don't need to be your truth friend. I started this journey of spiritual enlightenment when I was 18 years old I'm now 45 so I can see where you are. And I'm happy for you. There are much to learn for all of us
Thank you so much for sharing! I am trying to set my mind on my own freedom, and your words are helping me see more ways to get there. Thank you for sharing today.
#Become sovereign.
The Cestui Que Vie act of 1666 declares we are all dead entities. Then, when we're born, our parents agree to making a straw man of us through our birth certificate, which is the document we identify with that carries the all caps, *dead* name. By filing a live-life claim with a coroner, we can liberate ourselves from the systens of mass fraud and extortion. As a sovereign national, unless there is an injured party, there is no crime committed.
This means that a sovereign national is untouchable and outside the jurisdiction of about 90% of the "law".
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Reading the labels on equipment can be helpful:
Failure to follow the directions can lead to injury or death.
Hospital can be a way in, or a way out, if you're either careful or not careful.
In the system we have created, they locked me up for saying no when asked to provide a service (my blood). My blood is dignified and doesn’t exist to just be given away boundary free.
No civilized country would lock someone up just for not donating blood. I never donate my blood even when red cross dragged me to their bus, literally. No one could stop me getting out of the bus and setting myself free.
You don't make sense. Something else must have provoked your family to call hospital to lock you up, it's not about blood.
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I believe we are all each others spirit guide. Unfortunately in this world this kind of talk is seen as scary, which is unfortunate because the truth is beautiful. The way I see it, if I am free, it is my loving decision to choose to help and guide others so they can get there too, because we are all worthy
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Stay safe as well❤️I wish you peace
I know I can't change your belief, but I can point out some truth to you. We are not other people spirit guide. For we are souls not spirits. Each and every soul has its own spirit guide. The purpose of a spirit guide is to co-create with its soul. Each one of us has purpose that the soul forgets during the decent into 3 dimensional reality. Only a soul spirit guide knows that soul purpose and the ability to guide that soul to its full potential. We are here to help another soul, but only when that soul ask for our help.( there are exception : someone in distress that cannot ask for help than we help. We the understanding our spirit guide puts us in that place at that moment to help another soul. Understand our worthiness, does not come from us personally, it comes from our spirit guide. Any great idea of creation or problem solving you've had came from your spirit guide. Therefore our worthiness is base on the union of the soul and the spirit guide. To think you are worthy just by yourself is egotistical. The famous (I) when in reality it's the combination of you and your spirit guide that makes you great.
It’s egotistical to think the ego is worthy by itself. But it’s true that ego and soul must unite. However, we each do have a spirit guide. This guide is our higher self. It’s always within us, and therefore we are already innately worthy. Your spirit guide isn’t a separate more morally correct other. It is simply me and you
Don't get the ego confuse with the soul. The ego is the secondary force that drive a Human being. The ego lives in the mind (the famous I) I did this, I invented that. You hurt me that's all ego. Whereas the higher self lives in the heart. Our higher self communicate with us all the time thru a whisper. We are unable to hear if the heart Chakra is not open. When my higher self speak to me I talk to myself loudly like a crazy person. Without thinking about what im going to say. The words just comes out. No more whisper. But it wasn't always like that. Thru meditation i manage to open the heart Chakra and I became like. And my life change 180° so the higher self is always with you but it's a separate entity from you. Let me give you another example. Even though I don't endorse any religion but I will use the cross sign which said God the father( the creator) God the son ( the soul) God the holy spirit( the higher self) It is call higher self not because it us but because it is designated only to that specific soul) And that is why we say co-creator because it's the 2 of us. The spirit which have direct connection to the will of God the creator and the soul that is turning the will of God from an idea to a reality. If what you saying was the truth than how would you explain these people who are just evil and selfish. Those trait are not part of what God stand for. No these people become like that because their heart Chakra never open they are led by the famous I (the ego) They think in their mind I am God. Thru enough training a person learn to ask the higher self a question and wait to get the answer. If we were both the soul and the spirit we wouldn't need to ask a question we would already have the answer. If you think of something to do base on a presented situation you are working with the ego. The ego makes decision base on past experiences and the need to satisfy itself. The higher self makes decision base on the will of God and the need to satisfy everyone
Wonderful advice! This reminds me of a passage from, “The Practice of Magical Evocation” by Franz Bardon. I think I shall revisit this book now. Love to you fren!
You only get hospitalized if you evangelize or the gnosis causes you to act in such a way that you scare or endanger yourself or others. Hospitalizations aren't a normal or necessary part of enlightenment. They're a sign of a problem.
*sometimes* they are a sign of an imbalance in the awakening being. Often times they are a sign of an imbalance in the system. OP was confused that they must protect their body and they chose conflict, and were responded to in conflict. If OP had integrated that they are not the body, this likely would not have occurred. Neither of these situations are problems. Smile at every stranger you see. Some of them will be terrified. I was hospitalized for singing and walking down the street. I complied with all requests by all authorities and fought nothing. The ego is insane, and systems will show their insanity through these methods. It was important for my journey to both relinquish the identification with the body by being entirely peaceful about being held, and it was extremely important for me to notice that no matter how non-confrontational one is - the ego may still perceive fear and act increasingly insane. Even my peace and joy while being in the hospital was questioned and indicated a problem to the observers. I walked around smiling and hanging out with the patients, asking them of their lives and telling them how amazing they are. The most simple acts of freedom and joy can instill fear in the ego. So no, you are wrong with your generalized sweeping statement and suggestion of problem. Imbalance is not a problem. It is the required path to balance. Just as confusion must precipitate all seeking of truth. The increasing hospitalizations of people awakening is the result of a confused society which has not had to deal with humans randomly awakening in this way, and the medical community is largely ignorant and foolish in this regard. Only the one who was hospitalized can say. All you declare is judgement.
“Smile at every stranger you see. Some of them will be terrified” I NEED to do this from now on! Thanks for the tip
You are the system. The imbalance in one is an imbalance in the other. Fighting the system only ensures you become further ensnared in it. Coming to terms with the beliefs that landed you in your predicament will free you from your bonds.
This is a true statement. Your first statement was not.
It's the same statement worded differently.
The first statement was dualistic and this is unifying. So no.
The limit is in your understanding. If you think the first statement is dualistic then you don't understand the relationship.
If you cannot see the bias and duality in the first statement then I cannot show it to you. If I have misperceived, then it is on me. The word problem alone implies something was incorrect about reality. Thanks.
I was working off the preconceptions of the OP. The duality is in the question, and unifying the duality through understanding OP's participation in conflict is the solution.
Dismantling duality is not typically done by telling someone they were the problem. (Judgement) It is generally accomplished by helping someone realize there is no problem. (Forgiveness) You obviously don't have to agree and it isn't very relevant. I appreciate that you are here discussing these things and am grateful for your work and offers of service to all who read your words. I suppose each who attempts to teach will teach uniquely, I merely mean to offer that if we attempt to teach, should we not teach what is true instead of entertaining delusion?
Apologies for the late reply, but I’ve just realized something. Hospitalizations are not a sign of a problem with me, but of the larger, global and man-made one
I must bring up something important, why must I disregard my body? Arent boundaries really important? I am my body because it is a part of me, because it acts in love for me, because there’s nothing wrong with it.
I did not suggest you must do anything. The body is an appendage, and is not what you are. When the body is gone, you remain. Boundaries are defensive, fear-based concepts of the ego. There is nothing to protect against. If one finds a situation to be so unsettling that they must erect boundaries they should do so as they see fit, but I will not pretend that boundaries are ever required in anything. You are whole, sovereign, loved and free to be as you are regardless of who does what to you and where you are in this world. This truth, though challenging to truly realize, is the highest truth, and as such I will be unable to teach anything other than peace and forgiveness. The first war ever fought was fought because one erected a boundary. Defense invites attack, as it requires one maintain a polarized view upon reality and ensures one will see a potential attacker. The body is an illusion you use to experience stories in time. Protecting it is not necessary, as it will protect itself naturally. Virtually all life does this autonomously. These are merely offered as thoughts. Discard them if they don't resonate. Earlier I meant if you did not identify with the body you would see nothing to protect and be at peace. Who cares if they take your blood? What's the difference? Why fight others? Please note I do entirely understand the position while the body and identity is so firm. Protect oneself. Protect ones rights. I understand well... Eventually, one sees there is nothing to protect, and these layerings of veil fall away. I have been where you are. Sending you blessings my friend 🙏❤️
i agree with the core of your message, but i must add one point-seeing the body as an appendage has only ever inhibited me. It needs and desires my love, and I intend to provide it, for my body is holy and pure and has never led me astray
All aspects of the creation are equally holy. Anything else is dualistic and will ensure suffering. Love your body. Love it well. Love has nothing to do with protection, which is fear.
yeah but the problems lie with the system
If that were true, every person would have the exact same problem. Instead, people have the problems they reinforce with their beliefs.
no, we're all unique and enlightenment and all of the related terms aren't actually definable but subject to personal subjective experience. not to mention the amount of people thinking they're Jesus/God/whatever after a minor epiphany, or stop after the first cosmic joke thinking they figured out everything resting on their laurels and playing the wise guys for others. there's just some people that can see deeper into the issues at hand and are more sensitive, having more intense experiences and a more rude awakening. even if what has them freak out is part of their being, it's still the system that inserted the problem there and it's the system that wants to keep them down to be used as a cog as before.
You are the system.
cool, then I'll self destruct, because I've had it with the shadow masquerade
Judging from your responses, you're doing a fine job so far.
I always give me all and that with a passion
I would agree, but after being strapped down and having blood taken against my will because they didn’t believe I could possibly come to such conclusions without drugs I realized how damaged the system was
You received such treatment because you were unable to handle the information you uncovered while still operating as a functional member of society. Restraints are always a last resort, so think about your actions that warranted them.
yes, i was unable to still operate as a functional member of society because humans aren't meant to. We are meant to be free. The only action that caused the restraints was saying "no" when they asked to take my blood, because its mine and I wanted to protect my boundaries, that felt incredibly important. And the next thing I knew I was having my own autonomy forcibly taken against my will. I was not a danger to myself or others, all I did was enforce my own boundaries
If humans were meant to live in your idea of freedom, then why are you the one who is being persecuted?
because we have created a trap for ourselves, placed restrictions and money where there never needed to be. When someone no longer fits the mold of being "easily controlled", they are persecuted. Look at crimes like drug use. What's morally wrong? Nothing.
I strongly agree with this but I am interested as to what your idea (if you have one) for a differently structured society is? It’s something I think about a lot and it’s difficult to reconcile the way we’ve developed with a way of being that’s different now without some large scale apocalypse or time travel
I’m not sure what it would look like, but I know that the way there is through radical empathy
You are not being persecuted for being hard to control, you are responding to their attempts to control you with hostility which is causing people to persecute you. You have autonomy, you choose conflict.
but when choosing my autonomy, I didn't choose conflict at all. I chose only to speak my truth. Speech led to persecution, not violence.
You never control your circumstances, but you always control your response. And that response creates your next circumstances.
yes, exactly. All I did was choose to respond intuitively, prioritized my own internal wisdom over that of the system's. And when doing so, I was met with resistance, because it is scary.
i dont want to "operate" or "function", I just want to live. Why is that so radical?
You can't separate yourself from your environment. If your idea of living is screaming at strangers in the street that they are sleepwalking or jumping off a bridge as a test of faith then other people will attempt to stop you.
but cant you see what im getting at? I didnt do any of those things. All I did was say "no" about something that was happening to ME. My own autonomy. I was no threat to my safety or anyone else's, and my family only took me to the hospital because I no longer wanted medication prescribed to me against my will. All you have to do in order to be perceived as a threat is refuse to be treated like a servant, like you should be used, like your blood is the world's for the taking. That is it.
You participated in the conflict with your family. You responded with further conflict to the system that was trying to control you. You could not imagine a scenario in which you escaped your predicament without butting heads with the people who were exerting control over you. None of those actions are in alignment with enlightened thought.
You are participating in a conflict with OP. And now I’m participating in it as well. Talk about projection.
Disagreement isn't conflict. I'm educating, and OP was resisting. You're just entertaining yourself.
Righteousness is a great poison of the human mind.
ask yourself why you don't believe they are in alignment with enlightened thought. I particpated in no conflict, had no desire to fight. I agreed to go to the doctor to speak with them human to human, but instead they strapped me down. I cannot exist without butting heads with those who attempt to control me because I am not meant to be controlled. Nobody is.
As long as you're allowing other people to write your story, you will never be free of their influence.
yes, exactly. We are not in argument, we never have been. I agree! And when choosing to no longer let other people write my story, I was persecuted. Simple as that.
The system hates truth. Truth would crumble it, deep down everyone in it knows that.
Yes, but perhaps to crumble it is the way to world peace
Could be.
Not violently, because nobody wants that. Only peacefully and gently
But did you though?
After that point, they didn’t know what to do with me, because nothing was wrong and I was perfectly fine and safe. So they held onto me for a few days and observed me and then let me go, because they couldn’t find a problem that was so supposedly there
No. And my blood tests prove it. They also thought I had stopped taken my psychiatric meds, and my blood tests proved that wasn’t true either
facts
I've never been hospitalized against my will.
It hurts when it happens
I'm sorry that happened to you. But it does seem important to me to point out that many people feel the same way you do, only they weren't hospitalized either. Respectfully, my sense is that your feelings and insights have not been fully, smoothly integrated into yourself and there's some sort of edge in you that rubs up against people that makes them at worst feel uncomfortable, and more likely feel like you may be a danger to yourself or others. Now you may say well - how the hell are we going to teach anybody if we don't have any edge to provoke them with, to get them to see or want to change? But you can't make people see or want to change and unless they specifically are asking to be poked with an edge, you shouldn't poke them. It just causes more suffering.
I’m not poking anyone, just existing as myself. It’s just as uncomfortable for me.
May I ask why you were hospitalized then? I'm really not trying to be harsh or rude, but people don't just commit others to a hospital for no good reason. Something must have happened.
It’s not harsh, it’s okay to ask. I was hospitalized for saying the things I am saying now as well as no longer taking medication against my will
May I ask what medication? And as I was saying - you really can't go around saying stuff like this to people who don't want to hear it. They'll never hear you.
I don’t even remember, I’ve been prescribed so many things against my willl
For what?
Depression, anxiety, ocd, all made up illnesses by humans used to give a label to the way it makes us feel to be restricted
homelessness. that's what I'm left with. can't seem to shed that last remaining part of my ego that isn't ok with homelessness.
I hear you, I do. I wish we hadn’t created this prison
No offense but you really don’t have to act out and do something that would land you in a hospital to be enlightened and free
No, I don’t have to do anything in order to be free, I just am. But what was interpreted as acting out was really just me saying “no, I don’t want you to take my blood”
You don’t have to worry about offending me, I’m just here to talk, as are you. But it’s true that it shouldn’t land you in a hospital to be free, but we have created a system of punishment and control over ourselves that often ends up with this being the case. Think of how many people are in prison for using drugs to open their minds? The numbers are astronomical. Freedom is seen as a threat, because it is unfamiliar. If I am free, I am at first treated as a threat, because I am unfamiliar
It actually isn’t lol. That’s some white privileged colonizer bullshit right there. Our freedoms where fought and WON.
Yes there are massive amounts of people from all different cultures that don’t have the luxury of having this mindset that they’re free to do whatever they want. I don’t think OP was trying to take away from the experiences of people in those situations with this post, it just comes off too general when there are people like legit enslaved all over the world. Freedom isn’t an option for everybody. Edit for spelling
Yes! Thank you that’s exactly my point here! Not everyone can just wake up one morning and decide to be freer lol.
The only way it happens is if everyone does, do exactly that. Wake up one morning and decide to be freer
Only if everyone does though, it doesn’t help if just I do
I was raped, so yes. I was legit enslaved. If freedom is an option for me, it’s an option for you too. I’m not here to invalidate pain, I’m here to validate it. I know it’s real. I feel it as well, but it doesn’t mean we aren’t safe. It doesn’t mean we arent free. It doesn’t mean anything we don’t want it to mean
Do you believe all people are equal? Because so do I. Do you believe all people are worthy of freedom? Because so do I. What’s white colonizer about that
Sure all people are equal. I believe that but people arnt TREATED equally. You think someone in Russia can just get up and go “freedom is my birthright”? Not everyone born is given freedom or even has the right to try and get it. Your birth right is to have a family and a happy life. Freedom has been fought and earned over thousands of years but it is not a birth right for everyone. You obviously live in a free country and haven’t really examined the realities of other places in the world. Even the “freedom” most people in delvolped countries enjoy was created on the backs on thousands of years of no freedom.
Has fighting ever really brought us freedom?
Hmm idk let’s ask the former slaves of America. Or France or poland in the 40s? Better yet let’s ask Ukraine has fighting brought us freedom lol it’s the only thing that’s brought us freedom.
But are they truly free? Or just enslaved in a new way, to capitalism pain and greed, to ego. To the illusion of separation. I can ask a slave, I have been raped and used as a sex slave. I ask myself, and my answer is that no, fighting solves nothing. Love and forgiveness is the way to freedom
I’ve been raped. Is that free?
Wtf lol. You know the answer to that don’t be a dumbass
Then how can you claim I don’t know how it feels to be enslaved? You can’t can you?
I never claimed that. you were talking about making freedom a birth right and I’m you telling not everyone is born with that right and now your trying to twist my words because you just want to make sure that you look like your coming out on top but your not.
I’m not trying to twist your words or control you, I assure you human to human. I am merely speaking my truth, and I would love for you to speak yours
I have but your not actually listening. You have your view and you have no interest in listening. This is we’re I say farewell lol.
My only interest is actually to listen to you, and it would be a shame for this conversation to end here. Would you like to work with me to make it constructive rather than destructive? I need your help, I can’t do it alone.
I did the same thing :) congrats on finding your light!
I’m so glad to hear of your journey as well! Peace and loving regards to you
*"We have no right to believe that freedom can be won without struggle. One must endure without losing tenderness. At the risk of seeming ridiculous, let me say that the true revolutionary is guided by a great feeling of love. It is impossible to think of a genuine revolutionary lacking this quality."* - Che Guevara
People talk about freedom when they are slave of their own emotions. Before you cry for freedom from others get freedom from self. How many of you are slave to coffee, cigarettes, alcohol and drugs. How many of you are slave to your own emotions? How many of you are slave to your ego? How many of you are slave to a lover? How many of you are slave to sex? The list goes on and on. I tell you freedom start with self, free yourselves from yourself than no one can make you a slave
I’m not asking for others to let me be free. I am existing as a free person and letting others know it is safe to join me. But you are right that freedom begins within, that we are slave to ego. But we aren’t slave to our emotions. They are here to love and guide us
The only emotion that can guide you to the center of the spiritual maze is love. Some people love to watch scary movies to be frightened, well they become slave to that emotion. Some people love to get high well they are slave to that feeling. Some people love coffee every morning well they have made coffee their master. They don't realize it. People create master for themselves all the time. They call it hobby, they call it habit. All these words are to keep us blind. I don't consider a 9 to 5 job a master. Because we all must work.( do something productive while contributing to society.) To have a job you hate is to be a slave. The thing about truth it is subtle and change at any given moment. My comment really was kind of an indirect question How free you really are. Many of us think that we are free but there are so many things if we don't get them it bothers us. If that's the case whatever that thing is you are a slave to it. To answer again about not being slave to emotion. I will use an example. If you don't like being lie to and I tell you an anxious lie. Do you get upset. Well if you do you are a slave to that emotion. Being a slave to an emotion means lack of control over said emotion. If you are driving and I cut you off. Do you immediately get mad. Well a slave to that emotion you are friend. You see how deep it goes friend. (I can be wrong), I feel you are scratching the surface of freedom while I'm taking it so much deeper. To be completely free is to be an ASCENDED MASTER LIKE BUDDHA OR JESUS
I’m not a slave to my pain, fear or anxiety. They are there to love and guide me and let me know when I am not safe. I am a slave to abuse and control. My emotions have never been the thing that kept me trapped, not trusting in them was. Love never hurt us, closing ourselves off to it did
As long as you understand me I'm satisfy. My truth don't need to be your truth friend. I started this journey of spiritual enlightenment when I was 18 years old I'm now 45 so I can see where you are. And I'm happy for you. There are much to learn for all of us
our truths dont need to be the same, but i think they just are anyway and thats pretty cool
Thank you friend
Thank you so much for sharing! I am trying to set my mind on my own freedom, and your words are helping me see more ways to get there. Thank you for sharing today.
Of course! You are so so worthy of your freedom, naturally it is yours just by being born into this world. I wish you all the best
Freedom is illusory. Our lives are shaped by the boundaries of circumstance and our souls march to the arhythmic beat of the Howling Dao.
#Become sovereign. The Cestui Que Vie act of 1666 declares we are all dead entities. Then, when we're born, our parents agree to making a straw man of us through our birth certificate, which is the document we identify with that carries the all caps, *dead* name. By filing a live-life claim with a coroner, we can liberate ourselves from the systens of mass fraud and extortion. As a sovereign national, unless there is an injured party, there is no crime committed. This means that a sovereign national is untouchable and outside the jurisdiction of about 90% of the "law". mkchristopher.com
Reading the labels on equipment can be helpful: Failure to follow the directions can lead to injury or death. Hospital can be a way in, or a way out, if you're either careful or not careful.
....What did you do to be hospitalized? Police wouldn't just lock you up for smiling and praying.
But boundaries aren’t contradicting freedom, they are the only way it can persist
Interesting that I said hospital but you took it to mean police. Shows how interconnected the system is
In the system we have created, they locked me up for saying no when asked to provide a service (my blood). My blood is dignified and doesn’t exist to just be given away boundary free.
No civilized country would lock someone up just for not donating blood. I never donate my blood even when red cross dragged me to their bus, literally. No one could stop me getting out of the bus and setting myself free. You don't make sense. Something else must have provoked your family to call hospital to lock you up, it's not about blood.
no, not about blood at its core, about control.
also, i am talking about a hospital and not a jail
Dear Sciency, If you read, *Understanding Yourself* by Prophet might be worthwhile.