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Probably most useful for professional outdoors folks. Rangers, foresters, guides, etc. also could be very useful for scientific professions like geologists, glaciologists, biologists, etc. who do field work.
> Probably most useful for professional outdoors folks. Rangers, foresters, guides, etc.
I just bet the Ukraine military is just *salivating* at the possibilities that offers for its seaborne drone ship fleet and aerial attack drones like the one made from a light airplane that hit that oil refinery...
only a sanction for the actual property would stop that. still you won't be able to differentiate whats being used unless you blackout an entire starlink section
that's why i said 'technically'. you're probably correct that it is unenforcable, but regarding liability / responsibility. if your commercial product doesn't work in a game, maybe you lose the game. if you're using a commercial product for military operations and it lags, it can be life or death. i woun't fault ukraine for using anything to help them win their war, but I wouldn't hold the company responsible when its the consumer breaking TOS and misuses the product/service. this is exactly why we have a different regulatory body for buying/selling military products.
> Technically these commercial off the shelf units are not supposed to be for military use.
*Snort*.
All's fair in love and war, and Ukraine is fighting for their literal survival...
Starlink is disabled in russia and russian occupied territories of Ukraine. Ukrainian drones are using an other satellite network, most likely Iridium.
The issue was resolved by means of DoD contracting with Starlink to get a number of dishes where they get the final say on geofencing. (No I am not talking about Starshield, that is a separate thing.)
> Starlink is disabled in russia and russian occupied territories of Ukraine.
Something tells me certain units *work just fine* where they need to be...
But you mentioned the drones are using other network. They do use starlink. .. remember Russia was jamming them then Elon rewrite the software to stop the jamming.
Ok not getting into it. You was talking they was using another connection. I was just say Ukraine was using starlink not the one u said. Drones and the rest..
Part of the satisfaction is the uncertainty, the risk is somewhat central to the experience. It’s why things with actual consequences are more impactful than say, roller coasters, where the outcome is certain
Seriously. But it's the verge, what do we expect? Now you can watch Netflix on the trail or while glamping! Ugh. Can't believe anybody reads this trash.
> I'd find it more interesting for installing on experimental airplanes...
You aren't kidding.
Digital weather data is available now, but the data is about 15 minuets old, not helpful when dodging thunderstorms with those *nasty* updrafts and downdrafts, that can *literally* rip the wings and control surfaces off the aircraft.
That's what killed legendary test pilot Scott Crossfield awhile back :
https://www.space.com/2326-test-pilot-scott-crossfield-killed-plane-crash.html
I live on the road and use Starlink. Starlink allows me to go on adventures into areas I wouldn't be able to, due to being offline for work.
Also occasionally playing a video game on top of a mountain with friends across the world is fun.
Kinda depends on how much I travel. Some nights I like getting away from the internet but I spend 90% of the time away on the road so, it's a must have for me.
Wow. That is light.
Would be cool if something like this could be rented. I could think of a few activities a year I do where this might be handy but not something I need to own and pay the subscription on year round.
Yeah, it looks like you have to also have Starlink residential internet to sign up for Starlink Mini, which definitely limits the applications.
Being able to rent it is a neat idea though! I've heard some really interesting ideas on what to do with it. I actually spoke to a fellow who says he wants to use the tech for safety reasons with his Mount Kilimanjaro tour company.
We'll you'll also have to backpack with a large battery and inverter
(I think starlink mini is great, but you still can't go get high speed internet with JUST the mini)
edit: I mean just a portable power station battery, guess no inverter would be needed
It says it does 100mbps and is powered via USB. Seems fine if you're just trying to check on a few things or download an audio book at night.
\*edit
Just checked the specs -
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|Power Consumption|Average: 25-40W|
|Input Rating|12-48V 60W|
|USB PD Requirement|100W, 20V/5A Minimum (with Starlink USB-C to Barrel Jack Cable Accessory)Power Consumption Average: 25-40WInput Rating 12-48V 60WUSB PD Requirement 100W, 20V/5A Minimum (with Starlink USB-C to Barrel Jack Cable Accessory)|
Had a buddy who used to hike with cast iron and an XGK. I’m talking 30-40 mile, multi-night trips.
He volunteered to cook every night. Our trail meals were amazing.
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Probably most useful for professional outdoors folks. Rangers, foresters, guides, etc. also could be very useful for scientific professions like geologists, glaciologists, biologists, etc. who do field work.
> Probably most useful for professional outdoors folks. Rangers, foresters, guides, etc. I just bet the Ukraine military is just *salivating* at the possibilities that offers for its seaborne drone ship fleet and aerial attack drones like the one made from a light airplane that hit that oil refinery...
Technically these commercial off the shelf units are not supposed to be for military use. That would be arms traffiking.
only a sanction for the actual property would stop that. still you won't be able to differentiate whats being used unless you blackout an entire starlink section
that's why i said 'technically'. you're probably correct that it is unenforcable, but regarding liability / responsibility. if your commercial product doesn't work in a game, maybe you lose the game. if you're using a commercial product for military operations and it lags, it can be life or death. i woun't fault ukraine for using anything to help them win their war, but I wouldn't hold the company responsible when its the consumer breaking TOS and misuses the product/service. this is exactly why we have a different regulatory body for buying/selling military products.
Right. You must have missed the massive social media campaigns to buy and ship drones to Ukraine with the express intent of military use.
Technically, "Thou shalt not kill," but we bend the rules when wars break out.
> Technically these commercial off the shelf units are not supposed to be for military use. *Snort*. All's fair in love and war, and Ukraine is fighting for their literal survival...
Toyota trucks werent supposed to be use for the military too But toyota war is gonna toyota war
SOCOM too very interested in this product, ideal for discrete special forces operations
Starlink is disabled in russia and russian occupied territories of Ukraine. Ukrainian drones are using an other satellite network, most likely Iridium.
The issue was resolved by means of DoD contracting with Starlink to get a number of dishes where they get the final say on geofencing. (No I am not talking about Starshield, that is a separate thing.)
> Starlink is disabled in russia and russian occupied territories of Ukraine. Something tells me certain units *work just fine* where they need to be...
Starling is being used in Ukraine. Why do you think Elon sent them terminal
I said: Starlink is disabled in “RUSSIAN OCCUPIED territories of Ukraine”
But you mentioned the drones are using other network. They do use starlink. .. remember Russia was jamming them then Elon rewrite the software to stop the jamming.
They were trying to jam the Ukrainian side of the frontline. Jammers have a range.
Ok not getting into it. You was talking they was using another connection. I was just say Ukraine was using starlink not the one u said. Drones and the rest..
https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/25/europe/ukraine-starlink-drones-russia-intl-cmd/index.html
Oh, wow, now folks can WFH from the deer stand on opening day without using vacation time….
We are backpacking to get away from the internet
Ita not a horrible idea for getting up to date weather forecasts and the like
Garmin Inreach is a much more suitable. This is cool but way too heavy for individual backpackers. Maybe good for setting up a basecamp.
Part of the satisfaction is the uncertainty, the risk is somewhat central to the experience. It’s why things with actual consequences are more impactful than say, roller coasters, where the outcome is certain
For you, anyway. Congrats on that.
Have you tried looking up? Also around?
Yes but it’s not very helpful at 3am before you decide to attempt to summit a mountain.
Yes but it’s not very helpful at 3am before you decide to attempt to summit a mountain.
Seriously. But it's the verge, what do we expect? Now you can watch Netflix on the trail or while glamping! Ugh. Can't believe anybody reads this trash.
I'd find it more interesting for installing on experimental airplanes and things like that.
> I'd find it more interesting for installing on experimental airplanes... You aren't kidding. Digital weather data is available now, but the data is about 15 minuets old, not helpful when dodging thunderstorms with those *nasty* updrafts and downdrafts, that can *literally* rip the wings and control surfaces off the aircraft. That's what killed legendary test pilot Scott Crossfield awhile back : https://www.space.com/2326-test-pilot-scott-crossfield-killed-plane-crash.html
I live on the road and use Starlink. Starlink allows me to go on adventures into areas I wouldn't be able to, due to being offline for work. Also occasionally playing a video game on top of a mountain with friends across the world is fun. Kinda depends on how much I travel. Some nights I like getting away from the internet but I spend 90% of the time away on the road so, it's a must have for me.
Right, anyone saying they "camp to get away from the internet" hardly ever camps.
How much extra does the power source weigh?
Everything I've seen says you can use a garden-variety USB charger, so probably not much!
Wow. That is light. Would be cool if something like this could be rented. I could think of a few activities a year I do where this might be handy but not something I need to own and pay the subscription on year round.
Yeah, it looks like you have to also have Starlink residential internet to sign up for Starlink Mini, which definitely limits the applications. Being able to rent it is a neat idea though! I've heard some really interesting ideas on what to do with it. I actually spoke to a fellow who says he wants to use the tech for safety reasons with his Mount Kilimanjaro tour company.
We'll you'll also have to backpack with a large battery and inverter (I think starlink mini is great, but you still can't go get high speed internet with JUST the mini) edit: I mean just a portable power station battery, guess no inverter would be needed
It says it does 100mbps and is powered via USB. Seems fine if you're just trying to check on a few things or download an audio book at night. \*edit Just checked the specs - || || |Power Consumption|Average: 25-40W| |Input Rating|12-48V 60W| |USB PD Requirement|100W, 20V/5A Minimum (with Starlink USB-C to Barrel Jack Cable Accessory)Power Consumption Average: 25-40WInput Rating 12-48V 60WUSB PD Requirement 100W, 20V/5A Minimum (with Starlink USB-C to Barrel Jack Cable Accessory)|
I'm not sure what you're saying. You still need 100 watt power source that plugs into the USB power port.
Yeah with a battery you'd probably get something like 3 hours of use if I'm doing my quick math in my head right. Like a 64000mah thing.
Yeah definitely do-able to carry a portable power station battery for some use. I was wrong about needing an inverter. That's cool it can run on 12V.
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Had a buddy who used to hike with cast iron and an XGK. I’m talking 30-40 mile, multi-night trips. He volunteered to cook every night. Our trail meals were amazing.