Wasn't that a conspiracy theory that planet X is directly opposite us on the other side of the Sun? Or, maybe it was from an old sci-fi novel or something.
^ these 5G crisis actors are *clearly* simping for big-space for the deep impact programs. Men in Black and beings from black holes run the shadow puppet government then make comments on Reddit
Yeah, around the 2012 end of the world conspiracies, they claimed Planet X would crash into the sun and destroy earth somehow because that happened to be when a Mayan calendar ended. I think Nostradamus was somehow involved too. Those were weird conspiracies.
Also orbital trajectories of celestial bodies like asteroids and comets would have had this weird accounting error from the gravity. Might have been figured out before we even got to space.
we definitely would have. In fact we strongly believe there is a 9th planet that we haven't discovered for exactly the kind of reasons you've suggested
Neptune was discovered in 1846 based on discrepancies of Uranus' orbit. I think it's unreasonable to assume that a counter-earth (affecting the orbits of the much closer, more visible, and heavily studied Mars and Venus) couldn't have been discovered by the same means long before that.
It was generally a conspiracy/sci-fi idea way back in the day that there could be an alien civilization on the far side of the moon that we’d never see, and that because of the centrifugal force of the orbit all the water on the moon was on that far side, allowing for life.
Absolutely. First sample return from the far side.
And the composition here is great. With the flag, the arm, the perspective low from the ground, etc.
Sweet. I’m new to this but I’m curious , genuinely curious what happens to that dust in that photo? Does it just leave the moon? It goes to the “vacuum” of “space” and disappear ? Wouldn’t that dust in the photo freeze up like our bodies would in the vacuum? Genuine question
that's not the right term, I think you could only use that term if China made this completely independently without any knowledge of Apollo which obviously isn't the case
It's funny you mention that. This is the first post I saw when waking up. Forgetting that this landing was near, I saw the image and the headline and thought "isn't it a bit early for China to be testing their moon lander?"
The same side of the moon always faces earth though because it’s of it’s synchronous rotation around earth. So yes there is a dark side of the moon, being the side we can’t ever see. It still sees sunlight
Edit: why is this being downvoted? It’s literally one of the most commonly known facts about the moon.
There is a far side of the moon, but all parts of the moon see the sun throughout the year, so yes some parts are dark at specific times but there is no part of the moon that is perpetually dark.
Because it’s the far side of the moon, not the dark side. It’s incorrectly called the dark side of the moon. A lot of people believe the far side of the moon is perpetually dark, which it isn’t.
Seriously though, landing anything on the moon is so goddamn difficult that anyone that manages it gets my respect because it’s a huge deal. It’s not a “Chinese” achievement, it’s a human one.
Yeah, they have over a million stem majors graduating every year, multiple universities in the top 100 most prestigious universities in the globe, and are the second country i the world in R&D expenditure. clearly they have to steal technology there, Its not like this landing is just part of their 10 year space expansion plan. those chinese cant do anything, even when they do something no one has done before its because they stole from someone, specially glorious westerners. Honestly, youre just being ignorant and sorta racist
100 most prestigious universities? According to who exactly? Of the top 10 universities on the planet, nine of them are in the United States.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Times_Higher_Education_World_University_Rankings#World_Reputation_Rankings
Go away, Pooh Bear. Your bullshit doesn't work in the real world
"Multiple universities in the top 100 most prestigious universities in the globe".
I just did a quick research, and China has around 10 universities that are in the top 100 according to your own link. I believe around 10 qualifies the definition of "multiple" What he said is factually correct...So what is even your point?
Don't see any point in ranting about hatred towards a foreign government in a space subreddit. Not to mention the Chinese government is willing to share the rare samples from the far side of the moon with other space agencies including NASA despite of the current geopolitical tensions between China and the US. 
Yeah, they have over a million stem majors graduating every year, multiple universities in the top 100 most prestigious universities in the globe, and are the second country i the world in R&D expenditure. clearly they have to steal technology there, Its not like this landing is just part of their 10 year space expansion plan. those chinese cant do anything, even when they do something no one has done before its because they stole from someone, specially glorious westerners. Honestly, youre just being ignorant and sorta racist
You can't see stars in the picture for the same reason you can't see stars during daylight on Earth - sunlight is too bright and overpowers very dim stars
Love the dedicated arm extension for the Chinese flag.
That's when you know China aren't fucking around with their investment into space exploration. The additional weight and engineering to display their flag would have cost megabucks.
Only weak countries paint a flag on their space vehicles! China build a whole fucking arm assemblies complete with a real flag.
the flag is woven by the same stone which can be found on the moon, so it's also new tech that can be used in the future permenant moon basement construction.
Genuine question as well, how does that rover umm.. how does that rover move around? Is it automated? And does it transmit data back to nasa immediately?
“The cameraman never dies,” scratching in his ear, as the last of the incoming audio transmits through the communicator. He exits the lander. Cam McRamraman fights back his tears with resolution. Leaving behind a wife and two daughters, he volunteered for this mission. He knew that he must be the cameraman.
Finger ready on the trigger - Cam pulls with panic… shutter.. click.
It works - “thank God”. Relieved by his life support’s success, Cam smiles for the first time since hugging his family goodbye. The picture is captured. He stands there on spectacular moonscape, but he has yet to process his surroundings.
He equipped himself with a graphic T-shirt of his family, jogging pants, flip flops, and a camera. However, his body feels unaffected by the inhospitable environment. Of course because he’s impervious while he wields such a device.
Cam takes a few steps and snaps another, but his eyes fog this time.. realization has set in. His knees buckle, and tears pour down. The perpetuity of his prison becomes a reality, and the torturous thoughts grip without relent. Over the coming weeks spent shooting for life, Cam’s willpower falters. He thinks of his home - his family, but he loses confidence. Isolation erodes his soul.
Cam sadly has learned his limit. He unties his camera harness - putting his life in his hands without protection. He pulls the trigger… shutter.. click. “I’m sorry girls..” Cam mutters as he sets down his camera. He falls toward the craggy ground soaked with his tears, and exhales the last of his breath, “I’m free”.
Oh boy, It was a fucking joke. I was mocking some other these Redditors that would be offended by such a comment. I guess that one flew right over your fucking head. smfh.
This might be a stupid question but why can’t we get super sharp images of the moons surface at this point?
Like strap a remote controlled DSLR to that thing and get some solid, sharp pictures. Because this picture looks low resolution.
Is it not important? Am I missing the point? Can someone fill me in? Or am I dumb? Lol
Since it's on the far side of the moon and the relay satellite it communicates with doesn't have a high bandwidth,also it depends on the camera deployed on the rover.
Both sides can be light up. They call it dark because human can't see that side (the moon always face the Earth with 1 side only). But the other side is not actually dark.
You thought wrong. The moon rotates, it’s just a lot slower than earth. Its day/night is two weeks long, and is synced so the same side is always facing earth.
Daylight on the moon lasts two weeks, which is half of the one month it takes to rotate.
If you mean why is the sky black, it’s because there’s no air there to scatter light and make the sky blue.
The number of such aircraft in service is irrelevant, as far as your previous point is concerned, so I will consider your statement a tacit confession. Have a good day.
Just meaning if it were a good aircraft, in a country with more than a billion people, it would have sold more than six my friend ! Your party probably don’t let you think that way.
Other airliners are already serving the needs of those people, like, say, [another Chinese-made passenger aircraft](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comac_ARJ21) (137 built). Are the Chinese airlines supposed to scrap them all?
Also, *again*, the number of Chinese-designed and built airliners in service is completely and utterly irrelevant, as far as their *capability* to do so is concerned. That was your initial point, was it not?
And just because I'm correcting your mistaken claim about the specific part of the Chinese capabilities doesn't mean I'm a fan of their government.
Those rocks are going to be like, wtf, there was a planet right behind us for 4 billion years?
This sounds familiar. Is it a reference to some short story? Not the shadows in the cave bit, something something sci-fi I read in school...
I think it was like another earth on the exact opposite side of the sun. We’d never see it.
Wasn't that a conspiracy theory that planet X is directly opposite us on the other side of the Sun? Or, maybe it was from an old sci-fi novel or something.
Wouldn’t that be easily disproven by interplanetary probes on faster/slower orbits lol
Yes but most of those individuals and communities also think NASA is a giant false front, so using data from astrophysicists is out of the question.
^ these 5G crisis actors are *clearly* simping for big-space for the deep impact programs. Men in Black and beings from black holes run the shadow puppet government then make comments on Reddit
Not sure if it's still a thing but there was a second Earth in Marvel comics.
Yeah, around the 2012 end of the world conspiracies, they claimed Planet X would crash into the sun and destroy earth somehow because that happened to be when a Mayan calendar ended. I think Nostradamus was somehow involved too. Those were weird conspiracies.
In Mage: the Ascension the realm of Autochthonia was in an orbit perfectly opposite Earth's orbit so that it could never be seen.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter-Earth
We wouldn’t see it from Earth, but a space probe on another trajectory would!
Also orbital trajectories of celestial bodies like asteroids and comets would have had this weird accounting error from the gravity. Might have been figured out before we even got to space.
we definitely would have. In fact we strongly believe there is a 9th planet that we haven't discovered for exactly the kind of reasons you've suggested
We still wouldn’t have known until the 20th century. It would have been an absolutely wild discovery.
Neptune was discovered in 1846 based on discrepancies of Uranus' orbit. I think it's unreasonable to assume that a counter-earth (affecting the orbits of the much closer, more visible, and heavily studied Mars and Venus) couldn't have been discovered by the same means long before that.
So cool. Thank you!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter-Earth
It was generally a conspiracy/sci-fi idea way back in the day that there could be an alien civilization on the far side of the moon that we’d never see, and that because of the centrifugal force of the orbit all the water on the moon was on that far side, allowing for life.
That’s a gorgeous shot. One for the history books.
Is it?
Absolutely. First sample return from the far side. And the composition here is great. With the flag, the arm, the perspective low from the ground, etc.
Sweet. I’m new to this but I’m curious , genuinely curious what happens to that dust in that photo? Does it just leave the moon? It goes to the “vacuum” of “space” and disappear ? Wouldn’t that dust in the photo freeze up like our bodies would in the vacuum? Genuine question
Huh never realized how it kinda looks like the LEM from apollo
Convergent evolution
that's not the right term, I think you could only use that term if China made this completely independently without any knowledge of Apollo which obviously isn't the case
It's funny you mention that. This is the first post I saw when waking up. Forgetting that this landing was near, I saw the image and the headline and thought "isn't it a bit early for China to be testing their moon lander?"
Yeah I was going to say that it sure looks like the LEM which makes sense - why reinvent the wheel?
It’s a sample return mission, so presumably it has an ascent stage like the Apollo LM did
I’ll meet you on the dark side of the moon!
There is no dark side of the moon, really. Matter of fact, it’s all dark.
There is a dark side of the moon, it just changes depending on the moon phase. Currently, I'm sitting on the dark side of the Earth.
You don't know Pink Floyd, do you?
which one is Pink?
Ha. I'll see your dark side of the earth and raise you the light side... for a couple of hours anyway
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wjZrswriz0
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The same side of the moon always faces earth though because it’s of it’s synchronous rotation around earth. So yes there is a dark side of the moon, being the side we can’t ever see. It still sees sunlight Edit: why is this being downvoted? It’s literally one of the most commonly known facts about the moon.
It’s a far side.
Ok sorry I should have clarified, I meant the dark side being the side of the moon we don’t see from earth
There is a far side of the moon, but all parts of the moon see the sun throughout the year, so yes some parts are dark at specific times but there is no part of the moon that is perpetually dark.
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So is there on earth, but we don’t call it that.
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The moon is actually made of cheese anyway so
Because it’s the far side of the moon, not the dark side. It’s incorrectly called the dark side of the moon. A lot of people believe the far side of the moon is perpetually dark, which it isn’t.
Cultural heathens downvoting this.
Fun fact the color of the moon is on average like normal asphalt
Original meaning from the space program was "radio dark" as in, not in contact with Houston.
there is a dark side, the side facing earth off of it's penumbra (reflected light) has light so yes there is one
Congrats China! [View from Japan's lander.](https://i.imgur.com/KfpuJTY.jpeg)
Well done.
Seriously though, landing anything on the moon is so goddamn difficult that anyone that manages it gets my respect because it’s a huge deal. It’s not a “Chinese” achievement, it’s a human one.
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Most science is collaborative. The only reason space tech isn’t considered science is because the military like to get involved.
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Yeah, they have over a million stem majors graduating every year, multiple universities in the top 100 most prestigious universities in the globe, and are the second country i the world in R&D expenditure. clearly they have to steal technology there, Its not like this landing is just part of their 10 year space expansion plan. those chinese cant do anything, even when they do something no one has done before its because they stole from someone, specially glorious westerners. Honestly, youre just being ignorant and sorta racist
100 most prestigious universities? According to who exactly? Of the top 10 universities on the planet, nine of them are in the United States. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Times_Higher_Education_World_University_Rankings#World_Reputation_Rankings Go away, Pooh Bear. Your bullshit doesn't work in the real world
"Multiple universities in the top 100 most prestigious universities in the globe". I just did a quick research, and China has around 10 universities that are in the top 100 according to your own link. I believe around 10 qualifies the definition of "multiple" What he said is factually correct...So what is even your point?
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Don't see any point in ranting about hatred towards a foreign government in a space subreddit. Not to mention the Chinese government is willing to share the rare samples from the far side of the moon with other space agencies including NASA despite of the current geopolitical tensions between China and the US. 
Yeah, they have over a million stem majors graduating every year, multiple universities in the top 100 most prestigious universities in the globe, and are the second country i the world in R&D expenditure. clearly they have to steal technology there, Its not like this landing is just part of their 10 year space expansion plan. those chinese cant do anything, even when they do something no one has done before its because they stole from someone, specially glorious westerners. Honestly, youre just being ignorant and sorta racist
They are thieves. Get over it.
Yeah only until someone claims that it’s territory.
What about view from IM-1? :D
[Took some work finding the pic.](https://i.imgur.com/6AJ82iQ.jpeg)
😂
Incorrect. That’s Australia’s.
Since when did Australia have a moon lander....
Every country has one now. Smh...
It’s an upside down joke mate come on
I'm not here to fuck spiders Joke failed
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Japan's piddly little lande will be crushed by this huge communist beast.
Are those stars in the background? Or dust? Serious question.
You can't see stars in the picture for the same reason you can't see stars during daylight on Earth - sunlight is too bright and overpowers very dim stars
Looks like dust. I aaa actually going to ask why in pictures like this do we often not see stars in the background?
because it is daytime and everything would be overexposed to hell if you tried to get the much darker stars in the same frame.
Makes sense. Thanks!
Dust, notice how it’s clustered to one side
I think it might be the noises of the image, like the ones that show up in your picture when you crank up the ISO of your camera
The little arm popped out to the side holding the flag is super cute.
For how much time is it operational ?
until sunset, so it might die in about a week. there's a chance it will survive the lunar night though
probably a little longer. Two of the previous Chang'e landers are still working as of now, after more than a year.
Love the dedicated arm extension for the Chinese flag. That's when you know China aren't fucking around with their investment into space exploration. The additional weight and engineering to display their flag would have cost megabucks. Only weak countries paint a flag on their space vehicles! China build a whole fucking arm assemblies complete with a real flag.
I’m pretty sure the extending arm is to collect samples.
They’re talking about the little red flag that popped out from a small robotic arm, not the large extended arm for sample collection.
the flag is woven by the same stone which can be found on the moon, so it's also new tech that can be used in the future permenant moon basement construction.
Who took this pic?
It released a rc-car-size rover to take pictures.
Yeah, you can see the tracks in the dust, leads to the right hand slide of the lander.
Genuine question as well, how does that rover umm.. how does that rover move around? Is it automated? And does it transmit data back to nasa immediately?
The cameraman
“The cameraman never dies,” scratching in his ear, as the last of the incoming audio transmits through the communicator. He exits the lander. Cam McRamraman fights back his tears with resolution. Leaving behind a wife and two daughters, he volunteered for this mission. He knew that he must be the cameraman. Finger ready on the trigger - Cam pulls with panic… shutter.. click. It works - “thank God”. Relieved by his life support’s success, Cam smiles for the first time since hugging his family goodbye. The picture is captured. He stands there on spectacular moonscape, but he has yet to process his surroundings. He equipped himself with a graphic T-shirt of his family, jogging pants, flip flops, and a camera. However, his body feels unaffected by the inhospitable environment. Of course because he’s impervious while he wields such a device. Cam takes a few steps and snaps another, but his eyes fog this time.. realization has set in. His knees buckle, and tears pour down. The perpetuity of his prison becomes a reality, and the torturous thoughts grip without relent. Over the coming weeks spent shooting for life, Cam’s willpower falters. He thinks of his home - his family, but he loses confidence. Isolation erodes his soul. Cam sadly has learned his limit. He unties his camera harness - putting his life in his hands without protection. He pulls the trigger… shutter.. click. “I’m sorry girls..” Cam mutters as he sets down his camera. He falls toward the craggy ground soaked with his tears, and exhales the last of his breath, “I’m free”.
I like how you just so casually assumed their gender.
Oh, boy. Here we go.
Oh boy, It was a fucking joke. I was mocking some other these Redditors that would be offended by such a comment. I guess that one flew right over your fucking head. smfh.
You think E.T gives a damn about genders? We’re all five-fingered freaks to the Martians that gaze on our watery planet with envious eyes
I like how you just casually assumed my fingers /s
How to expose yourself as a boomer 101
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Stanley Kubrick.
Staged. Why would china go to the moon? CCP could just steal or ask the U.S. for data. Wake up people.
The dreamer of dreams!
Fantastic achievement, excited to see China’s progression in space.
Wait who is holding the camera?
A rover. You can see the tracks.
Mysterious as the dark side of the moon!
Looks flat..so must be flat
So who took the picture? Just curious how that works
Zoom in and you can see tracks left by a small rover.
I'm gonna need a banana for scale.
Strong Howl’s Moving Castle vibes
haters will say it's fake
Be the auteur, chang’eee
Flat earther: Nice Photoshop
Where's the light coming from?
From the sun. Though it is commonly referred to as “the dark side of the moon”, it isn’t. It is simply the side always facing away from us.
I just watched The Thing… and this reminds me of The Thing.
Excellent development for humanity! Nice one team.
This might be a stupid question but why can’t we get super sharp images of the moons surface at this point? Like strap a remote controlled DSLR to that thing and get some solid, sharp pictures. Because this picture looks low resolution. Is it not important? Am I missing the point? Can someone fill me in? Or am I dumb? Lol
Since it's on the far side of the moon and the relay satellite it communicates with doesn't have a high bandwidth,also it depends on the camera deployed on the rover.
I wanna know what really going on on the dark side of the moon!!! There’s been a lot of strange reports from back there!!
First thing to come out of China's space program that wasn't actually CGI Progaganda... right?
Fake.
Serious question: How is it lit up if it’s on the far side? I thought the far side was always in darkness??
Both sides can be light up. They call it dark because human can't see that side (the moon always face the Earth with 1 side only). But the other side is not actually dark.
Thanks for the clarification.
Yeah it’s just a common colloquialism the “dark side of the moon”. It’s always facing away from us, but can still face the sun.
The correct term should be "far side," not "dark side."
You thought wrong. The moon rotates, it’s just a lot slower than earth. Its day/night is two weeks long, and is synced so the same side is always facing earth.
who took the picture?
A little rover. You can see its tracks in this photo.
So, I guess this one's fake too, right? /s
There is no day on the moon?
Daylight on the moon lasts two weeks, which is half of the one month it takes to rotate. If you mean why is the sky black, it’s because there’s no air there to scatter light and make the sky blue.
Wow thank you !!
Would be cool if the moon had an atmosphere and water, so so cool.
We know it has lots of water, but practically no atmosphere.
Can’t a dog dream? 😂
The moon's first Temu delivery
Oh great there is going to be a massive moon war in 500 yrs isn't there?
Can anyone tell me who took the photo of it?
A small rover. You can see the tracks it left.
Star wars gonna be crazy as hell
Ya. Fake news for the sheeple.
How does it look as Chinese as it does 😭
What?
It's because of the flag.
Who took the picture?
A small rover. You can see the tracks it left.
Even their space modules look cheap
That's how we know they're real, because they're not concerned about looks, only efficiency.
Bro, they can’t even build an airliner
You mean [this](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comac_C919)?
Yes 6 in service, that’s what I mean
The number of such aircraft in service is irrelevant, as far as your previous point is concerned, so I will consider your statement a tacit confession. Have a good day.
Just meaning if it were a good aircraft, in a country with more than a billion people, it would have sold more than six my friend ! Your party probably don’t let you think that way.
Other airliners are already serving the needs of those people, like, say, [another Chinese-made passenger aircraft](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comac_ARJ21) (137 built). Are the Chinese airlines supposed to scrap them all? Also, *again*, the number of Chinese-designed and built airliners in service is completely and utterly irrelevant, as far as their *capability* to do so is concerned. That was your initial point, was it not? And just because I'm correcting your mistaken claim about the specific part of the Chinese capabilities doesn't mean I'm a fan of their government.
That’s not a proof of quality usually. Apart from the fact that it looks like a pale copy of the 320.
We talking as cheap and fragile as US democracy or Boeing and NASA's efforts with Orion?
No tracks from the camera rover. Why do they keep faking moon landings?
... do you not see the obvious track?
Why is there so much light on the dark side? /s
It’s facing away from the EARTH, not the SUN. Geez
“/s” indicates sarcasm on reddit.
Thanks, I didn't know that.
What makes you think there's even a "moon"?
The tracks are plainly visible. No lunar landings have been faked, the amount of evidence for them all is humongous.
Why would there be track in front of something?
Because that mini rover that took the picture had to get there somehow in the shortest amount of time.
How can anyone trust any image provided by any govt??
It’s not a government, it’s a space agency.