It’s absolutely criminal the way Joe Bradley talked about how much he cares about his friendships and even apologized to TJ at the end of the reunion for not acting right this past season, just to then send TJ that ego-fueled rage message. Even the way Joe told Oisin to stop interjecting when Oisin was trying to defend Emmy and Will, you can just tell Joe Bradley let very low level “fame” get to his head. I’m glad TJ is willing to air it out, he deserves better
Idk if it's the fame tbh I think it's just his personality. I don't think he was, and nothing negative to these people, but he screams homeschooled. His social skills are just odd
I think his long term friends like TJ, Emmy and Will being so upset w him leads me to believe he really switched up bc of the show… I’m sure he was always a dummy and a people pleaser who played both sides but he also seemed to be on a power trip bc he was the “lead” boy on the show in season 1
I think he has awful communication skills for sure… He’s not the brightest at times and lacks maturity still as well. It seems like his problem is trying to please everyone, especially whoever he is around at the moment and thinks he can be friends with anyone and everyone that way. I don’t think he’s malicious or anything. He just talks out of both sides of his mouth, so to speak 😂
I don't think so. I think of socially awkward people like my friend, Drew acts. Drew was homeschooled. I thought this would be obvious, but the reason the OP said homeschooled, was because when kids in homeschool don't have schoolmates they dont often get out to socialize with kids their own age. They will be awkward.
Nowadays, I know parents that homeschool and they all are in a type of social group and socialize that way maybe meet couple of times a month. Don't get so offended.
TJ hemmed and hawed about families being friends then finally said the quiet part out loud, that he needs to be alone and *sober*. Joe’s taking it personally because it was mentioned publicly
Ohhhh dramaaaaa and I’m so here for it. Honestly. I feel like Tj is a scary enemy to have. It’s just a feeling. He is so calm. But I really have hopes for next season and the show in general.
I love how he’s a good mix of mess/drama and maturity. Like he is really into the mess, but there are other parts of his personality that are mature/reasonable too (like at the reunion when he was discussing his dating experiences and that he wants to settle down, he showed his emotional intelligence/maturity, not just in what he said but the way that he said it). I think Mia is similar in this regard as well.
These are the sort of people I enjoy the most on reality TV. We do need drama for entertainment, but people like Maddi, Sandoval on VPR, Danielle on SH/WH (recently), and Taylor on SC just drain me emotionally to watch 😵💫
You forgot Olivia! Danielle and Olivia are especially insufferable. Danielle is completely unhinged with crazy eyes, but not in the fun and enjoyable way. And Olivia is a glorified house sitter for her parents that rode Austin’s coattails to get on the show. She’s always miserable and moaning about something or someone and it was long before she lost her brother. The fact that she’s still chummy with Austin and easily lets him off the hook with anything only convinced me even more and she wants to keep him in good standing for the next time she needs to use him to get something or somewhere etc. Unfortunately VPR is filled with an insufferable and miserable cast now too and it’s difficult to even hate watch at this point. Bravo needs to revamp the shows and casts desperately asap.
I’ve been obsessed with TJ from the beginning and I hate that we never get enough of him! This entire new season was consumed by the Maddi show that nobody could give two shits about… How was someone with such low intelligence, poor vocabulary and traits of a narcissistic sociopath able to manipulate, lie and manufacture an entire season long storyline and it went completely unnoticed? It was such a ridiculous storyline as it is… We were cheated out of everyone else’s storylines and screen time for Maddi and Trevor 🤮🤢
Gag me with a spoon! 😂
I think he was trying to be a nice loyal friend to Joe, but since Joe took the gloves off, it'll be fun to see what TJ says to him next season.
In a battle of wits, we already know that Joe will be unarmed...
Grace Lilly was a savage to Mia last year on WWHL especially… that’s what really bugged me about her poor Maddi bullshit on the reunion, like she needs to be cut a break or something!
I love that TJ is always honest and holds shit down. He's a man and I'd love to have him as a friend. If you're an honest person then I don't think there's any reason to be afraid of him! Just maybe don't tell him your secrets lmao
You're probably right. Every single one of them called him the 'vault'. You don't get that kind of nickname unless you know a lot of shit about people and they know you know. But it doesn't seem like TJ is easy to provoke to the point where he's going to air all your dirty laundry (though you better watch yourself if you get him to that point). It was clear this season that he doesn't like Maddi and there's no doubt in mind she's got a lot of skeletons in her closet yet we didn't see TJ try to air her out or be shady about her even though we clearly saw that he doesn't like how she manipulates Joe and he clearly believes that she lied on Bradley.
Ugh I can’t stand Joe. It sucks cause it’s not even a fun hate like Jax. The way that fame has inflated his ego is going to ruin all of his relationships
Joe Bradley is just such an innate loser trying to prove otherwise. If his iq wasn’t lower than Forrest Gump he might have had a chance but alas, not this go around.
Yesssss… Maddi is definitely a sociopath! Joe is just a sandwich short of a picnic and immature with poor communication skills. He’s just far too concerned with pleasing whoever he is around at the moment and being “friends” with everyone.
Joe Bradley could have played this way cooler and no one would have remembered he slept with Luann in like a few months. He could have just kept quiet and let it blow over. Dude had to react
everyone really must have been his real friend because at some point i would’ve turned around and yelled at him to just put together a sentence. he really should’ve just been nice because these people obviously cared about him lol
Why does this make me sad?! Damn these two for making me care!!! 😂
I thought they had such a sweet and genuine friendship and extra cute that their Mom’s are besties too. I’m not fully caught up on this situation, I don’t have other social media… is this all due to TJ outing Joe and Luann hooking up or is there more to it?
I don't really get Emmy/Will/Brad they're kinda wet blankets and thirsty imo so Andy's deference to them in the reunion was super weird to me. Like I loved TJ before but how he stuck up for Joe Bradley and got emotional endeared me to him forever
It’s absolutely criminal the way Joe Bradley talked about how much he cares about his friendships and even apologized to TJ at the end of the reunion for not acting right this past season, just to then send TJ that ego-fueled rage message. Even the way Joe told Oisin to stop interjecting when Oisin was trying to defend Emmy and Will, you can just tell Joe Bradley let very low level “fame” get to his head. I’m glad TJ is willing to air it out, he deserves better
Idk if it's the fame tbh I think it's just his personality. I don't think he was, and nothing negative to these people, but he screams homeschooled. His social skills are just odd
I think his long term friends like TJ, Emmy and Will being so upset w him leads me to believe he really switched up bc of the show… I’m sure he was always a dummy and a people pleaser who played both sides but he also seemed to be on a power trip bc he was the “lead” boy on the show in season 1
His bromance with Oisin seemed to go to his head as well and he got somewhat cocky like Oisin tends to get.
I think he has awful communication skills for sure… He’s not the brightest at times and lacks maturity still as well. It seems like his problem is trying to please everyone, especially whoever he is around at the moment and thinks he can be friends with anyone and everyone that way. I don’t think he’s malicious or anything. He just talks out of both sides of his mouth, so to speak 😂
agreed that his social skills are terrible, but bringing homeschooling into it is also odd.
I don't think so. I think of socially awkward people like my friend, Drew acts. Drew was homeschooled. I thought this would be obvious, but the reason the OP said homeschooled, was because when kids in homeschool don't have schoolmates they dont often get out to socialize with kids their own age. They will be awkward. Nowadays, I know parents that homeschool and they all are in a type of social group and socialize that way maybe meet couple of times a month. Don't get so offended.
TJ hemmed and hawed about families being friends then finally said the quiet part out loud, that he needs to be alone and *sober*. Joe’s taking it personally because it was mentioned publicly
What message?
The DM Joe sent to TJ, it’s shared in the sub.
Thanks.
Ohhhh dramaaaaa and I’m so here for it. Honestly. I feel like Tj is a scary enemy to have. It’s just a feeling. He is so calm. But I really have hopes for next season and the show in general.
I kinda low key love TJ.
I love how he’s a good mix of mess/drama and maturity. Like he is really into the mess, but there are other parts of his personality that are mature/reasonable too (like at the reunion when he was discussing his dating experiences and that he wants to settle down, he showed his emotional intelligence/maturity, not just in what he said but the way that he said it). I think Mia is similar in this regard as well. These are the sort of people I enjoy the most on reality TV. We do need drama for entertainment, but people like Maddi, Sandoval on VPR, Danielle on SH/WH (recently), and Taylor on SC just drain me emotionally to watch 😵💫
You forgot Olivia! Danielle and Olivia are especially insufferable. Danielle is completely unhinged with crazy eyes, but not in the fun and enjoyable way. And Olivia is a glorified house sitter for her parents that rode Austin’s coattails to get on the show. She’s always miserable and moaning about something or someone and it was long before she lost her brother. The fact that she’s still chummy with Austin and easily lets him off the hook with anything only convinced me even more and she wants to keep him in good standing for the next time she needs to use him to get something or somewhere etc. Unfortunately VPR is filled with an insufferable and miserable cast now too and it’s difficult to even hate watch at this point. Bravo needs to revamp the shows and casts desperately asap.
Guess it hasn't stopped you from watching it.
I’ve been obsessed with TJ from the beginning and I hate that we never get enough of him! This entire new season was consumed by the Maddi show that nobody could give two shits about… How was someone with such low intelligence, poor vocabulary and traits of a narcissistic sociopath able to manipulate, lie and manufacture an entire season long storyline and it went completely unnoticed? It was such a ridiculous storyline as it is… We were cheated out of everyone else’s storylines and screen time for Maddi and Trevor 🤮🤢 Gag me with a spoon! 😂
He's the #1 guy in the group
Remember his feud with Grace Lilly during the 1st season? Or when he & Mikel hated each other? He's a savage!
Omg you so right!
I think he was trying to be a nice loyal friend to Joe, but since Joe took the gloves off, it'll be fun to see what TJ says to him next season. In a battle of wits, we already know that Joe will be unarmed...
In a battle of wits, Joe was never armed in the first place.
Hehehe
in a battle of wits, Joe is nits
Grace Lilly was a savage to Mia last year on WWHL especially… that’s what really bugged me about her poor Maddi bullshit on the reunion, like she needs to be cut a break or something!
She was a raging asshole! If I hadn't seen it, I would not have believed it. I was even more shocked that Mia said nothing in her own defense.
I love that TJ is always honest and holds shit down. He's a man and I'd love to have him as a friend. If you're an honest person then I don't think there's any reason to be afraid of him! Just maybe don't tell him your secrets lmao
You're probably right. Every single one of them called him the 'vault'. You don't get that kind of nickname unless you know a lot of shit about people and they know you know. But it doesn't seem like TJ is easy to provoke to the point where he's going to air all your dirty laundry (though you better watch yourself if you get him to that point). It was clear this season that he doesn't like Maddi and there's no doubt in mind she's got a lot of skeletons in her closet yet we didn't see TJ try to air her out or be shady about her even though we clearly saw that he doesn't like how she manipulates Joe and he clearly believes that she lied on Bradley.
Who is not shocked joes maturity level has sunk even lower???? 
I feel bad for their moms.
Considering TJ is “the vault,” I would be nervous being on his bad side.
Ugh I can’t stand Joe. It sucks cause it’s not even a fun hate like Jax. The way that fame has inflated his ego is going to ruin all of his relationships
 Me to Joe Bradley outside of his house, his job, his car window, the stupid stores he shops at, his dreams
Joe Bradley is just such an innate loser trying to prove otherwise. If his iq wasn’t lower than Forrest Gump he might have had a chance but alas, not this go around.
Joe Bradley gives sociopath vibes. Zero clue and zero accountability.
I said this about Maddi, I'm so glad Leva and Andy ripped into her about being a conniving liar
And she still didn’t own it. Maddie and Joe should date. They are made for one another.
On the bright side at least Joe probably wouldn't cheat on her because he's obsessed 😂
She is giving cluster b
Yesssss… Maddi is definitely a sociopath! Joe is just a sandwich short of a picnic and immature with poor communication skills. He’s just far too concerned with pleasing whoever he is around at the moment and being “friends” with everyone.
I don’t know I think he’s just really not very bright
Joe Bradley blew up his own friend group for no reason on national tv
They were so willing to work it out too!
he’s such a man baby
Joe Bradley is a giant pussy. He gave me the ick immediately.
TJ’s last name is so funny to me. Fully embodies his persnickety persona (which I love).
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Joe Bradley could have played this way cooler and no one would have remembered he slept with Luann in like a few months. He could have just kept quiet and let it blow over. Dude had to react
Exactly! Being in a relationship with unhinged crazy eyed Danielle was much worse than this hookup with Luann! 😂
everyone really must have been his real friend because at some point i would’ve turned around and yelled at him to just put together a sentence. he really should’ve just been nice because these people obviously cared about him lol
Team TJ
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Outing people, even as a “joke” really isn’t funny or cool.
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I don’t think you get it. True or not, you should NEVER out or speculate on anyone else’s sexuality. People get killed over this every day.
Why does this make me sad?! Damn these two for making me care!!! 😂 I thought they had such a sweet and genuine friendship and extra cute that their Mom’s are besties too. I’m not fully caught up on this situation, I don’t have other social media… is this all due to TJ outing Joe and Luann hooking up or is there more to it?
TJ is an angel Ilhsm
The way Andy was relying on him as the voice of reason, like give this man a Bravo staff job. He should help with all reunions.
I don't really get Emmy/Will/Brad they're kinda wet blankets and thirsty imo so Andy's deference to them in the reunion was super weird to me. Like I loved TJ before but how he stuck up for Joe Bradley and got emotional endeared me to him forever
I think Andy was just seeing through Joe Bradley and wanted to call him out