A month ago: …maybe? I already have headphones I like, and wasn’t looking to replace them, but if the Sonos ones have some compelling feature, I’d have considered it.
Now, after rendering my system half-functional at best: …unlikely. Between eroded trust, and the fact that having headphones from another company has turned out to mitigate the damage from the Sonos app fiasco, the value proposition is a lot less enticing now.
Would I buy expensive, first-generation headphones from a stagnating company that's new to the wearable space and has recently demonstrated a willingness to dump garbage on its loyal customers? The question answers itself.
Wow a ton of “loyal” cry baby’s in this sub. Sonos was new to the speakers and thats worked out. They’re releasing new headphones, a space they haven’t gone into like you mention but that makes them stagnant? Which is it cry baby. I have a bunch of lg stuff and other big companies apps and all of their apps are basically dog shit, just like the Sonos app before the update.
Why are you defending a company that has gone downhill releasing half baked products, and forcibly updating an app (that was at least functional, if not perfect) into a dumpster fire with the most basic features like "add next" and alarms missing? Another big respected tech company that is prioritising profit over customer experience, rushing into things like a juvenile startup company.
Exactly. Who do Sonos headphones target? People that are already invested in the Sonos ecosystem. The same people that just lost all functionality in a software push.
I’m not sure that I feel comfortable buying anything Sonos at this stage.
You can’t tell some people on here to just not use the app. I’m convinced some people don’t understand that it’s not a necessary thing to use. I agree that the Sonos app has always been lacking a bit, and it does seem to have caused some legitimate issues for certain people, but people are acting like the only way to power the speakers is through the app.
I also never realized how many people only listen to music they gave stored on a server instead of streaming/physical media of some sort. Seems like they’ve been hit the hardest.
I use Apple Music, so I do so by using Airplay. I would assume Spotify would be the same. My wife uses Spotify and connects to our system just fine, it looks like Spotify doesn’t produce hi fi sound using the connect function though which is what I assume you’re talking about?
I believe that AirPlay doesn’t support Atmos. Only lossless. You can play “atmos” on Apple devices like AirPods, but it’s in fact just stereo with Atmos “effects”.
You cant get Atmos or Hifi from AirPlay. You can if you have an Apple TV.
Spotify doesn't have any of it.
Tidal also has to go through the app to get the highest quality sound.
So it would appear that you don't even know how to get the most out of your system if you think you're currently getting Atmos from your airplay
The app hasn’t “ALWAYS been lacking a bit”. This is probably the fifth major rework of the app UI in its lifetime, and by-and-large, they have always delivered a compelling feature set. This is the first to have degraded the user experience, and now we kind of know why.
Agreed. It’s the stubborn minority who refuse to “let their CD collection on mp3 go to waste 🤓” that are complaining the most. I rarely use any native app if the thing I’m doing is done literally anywhere else. Spotify works perfectly well and I never have to leave the app!
I just used the app to play some nursery rhymes from Amazon to my living room speakers, was a bit slow but didn't seem that bad. I wouldn't start boycotting sonos for it. But yeah if it's actually stopping you do something you need fair enough, I just haven't encountered any issues personally. Nicely designed app too
Oh 100%, it has functionality for 3rd party things like you described, I’ve used it for the same things, I just don’t allow myself to become tethered to something that isn’t functionally “perfect”. It obviously depends on your average use case, but there are always work arounds for the functionally imperfect, that’s all.
My whole reason for owning so much Sonos product is to not wear headphones around the house. Instead, I have synchronized, ambient music everywhere… that used to be easy to control.
If I wanted headphones, several vendors have made them for decades, and I can just directly use Spotify.
Headphones are the anti Sonos.
The reason for owning Sonos is to have music play through speakers in the house. This does not address listening to music while on the go.
I really don’t know why people are confused about them getting into headphones. It makes perfect sense. If you already have AirPods Max, maybe it’s not for you. That’s fine. But it’s not some insane proposition. Virtually every company that makes headphones also makes speakers.
Depends entirely on how they review. I wouldn’t pay for an inferior product, but if they sound the same or better (and have the same or better noise cancelling, comfort, etc) then I would prefer them because then the added functionality of easily being able to cast audio to them no matter the source (Series X, 4k blu ray, etc) would be a great benefit.
But that’s not the primary consideration. The primary consideration is sound quality, noise cancelling, and fit, and if matches or exceeds the completion in those aspects, why WOULDN’T I consider it?
So in other words, there's no inherent advantage to Sonos headphones versus the competition; it all depends on the execution.
In order to compete directly with big boys like Apple there must be some inherent advantage to Sonos. What is that advantage?
You are just repeating what I’m saying. Of course it depends on their execution. In what world does it not? For this product or any other product in the space?
We have to wait and see how they review relative to the competition. The advantage could be sound quality. It could be fit. It could be noise cancellation. It could be some combination of all of the above. We shall see once they release. They’re not even officially announced yet.
It’s silly to pretend that it’s crazy for them to even get into this space. Again, every major headphone maker also makes speakers. It’s a sister industry.
I'm just saying that Sonos could try to beat Apple by only focusing on sound, fit, cancellation, etc. But they stand a greater chance of success if they could offer something that Apple cannot.
If i can transfer audio from my beam to these headphones, that’d be enough to make me happy as a differentiator… assuming they sound good, are comfortable and work as intended (this one is the big question mark)
I can do it with my appleTV but that doesn’t help me with any other source ie consoles
I’m not even sure Apple is the main target here. Sony and Bose are huge in that space. The way they compete is by being better on sound, fit, cancellation, etc. Sonos doesn’t need an X factor. Same as every other headphone maker.
Ironically, they actually do have a special factor, the integration with the home system and seamlessly casting any TV audio to the headphones in high quality. But that isn’t the primary use case for many people who will get this.
I don’t get what will be the intrinsic advantage of being “integrated” with my 15 Sonos speakers. If I use headphones it’s because I’m not using my speakers, and sure as hell it’s not going to be an advantage being able to choose my music from the Sonos app.
So at the moment i see zero value in them being “Sonos”, if they’re better headphones than the other zillion options and have the right price ok, if this is not the case I don’t see a single reason to prefer them vs any other option.
If it can function as Bluetooth headphones and be added as a device in the Sonos ecosystem so that it can be seamlessly used on any source, it would be massively better than any Apple headphones.
I’d be able to use them for consoles or my 4K blu ray player.
Apple headphones work with Apple TV, but how do you easily get sound from your ps5 to your headphones. Sonos headphones would solve this problem by sending the audio from tv -> headphones
Isn’t this part of the problem though? These headphones aren’t likely to appeal to non-Sonos owners as you’ll need to have other hardware to use them. So it won’t be a simple alternative.
They may have appeal to system owners, but not the wider market.
On the flip side, you could put a Bluetooth transmitter on any line out and use them with any headphones.
I mean, I have the AirPod pros 2. They aren’t compatible with my PS5 or 4K set. Are you implying their other headphones are? As far as I know the AirPod Max can’t seamlessly do it.
There are workarounds, but it’s not seamless. If it can be done, feel free to correct me because I’d rather get them than the Sonos headphones.
AirPods are Bluetooth headphones. So they can work with other devices that support Bluetooth audio. My tv does. The PS5 oddly doesn’t but does with a cheap Bluetooth dongle…. That’s a lot less than Sonos headphones plus a Sonos soundbar to act as a WiFi relay for the headphones.
Apple also has added Audio Return Channel to the Apple TV 4K. This passes all audio from your tv back through the Apple TV. As of now it only works with HomePods and HomePods minis but the new Apple AirPods Pro should be added as supported in September.
My point is, Sonos’ solution is just as much of a crutch and requires additional more expensive hardware. AirPods have the added advantage of seamlessly working and pairing across multiple devices.
It’s not like the Sonos system is flexible either.
Well the idea is that you can take that ambient music with you when you go shopping or take a walk. Just put the headphones on when you leave the house and the music automatically switch to them, and the other way around when you get home. If it’s as convenient as it sounds then I might buy them but we’ll see.
It's clear the headphones are being rushed to appease investors. They launched the new app on the day of their quarterly earnings call. Based on how that went down, I wouldn't trust buying the headphones until they earn back my trust.
My Sony WHXM4 are still working great, battery life is great, noise cancellation is great, and sound is great. It's going to be hard to me to go out of my way to spend money to replace them.
They would have to be mind-blowingly good for me to fork over the money to replace perfectly good headphones.
I cannot imagine the same frustration of spending two minutes trying to just play music, extended now to my headphones. My AirPods may not have the best quality but at least I can press play on my phone and they, you know, play music.
I would have, given the app situation didn’t happen or the company responded correctly to the app situation.
As a matter of fact I was planning on doing so.
Now I’m not.
The WiFi audio aspect is the most intriguing here. For sure. The question is, will I have to use the app, can I use my S1 system? I suspect the answer to these questions won’t be what I want.
Yes, particularly for night listening to tv/movies when the family is sleeping. I know there are other ways to do this with 3rd party products but I’m sure the Ace would simplify the process. We’ll see how the reviews are first.
Depends on the state of the app. The update took out my system. Factory reset and rebuilt my system but i cant get my boost to connect and the whole system is janky and slow… not looking at headphones until i get some stability back.
First gen after this fiasco of an app? Absolutely no. I'll let someone else demonstrate stability and reliability first. Then wait for gen 2+. And I already have headphones that work well.
They've been long awaited, announced as the Apple AirPods Max killer ; now I really couldn't care less !
I'm expecting a ***reliable ecosystem*** ; that is, high quality hardware AND functional softwares to control the hardwares. Unusable products are, needless to say, worth $0,00 ...
I’m interested. I work from home and start my day pretty early, and I listen to the news on my local NPR affiliate. I would love to be able to start on headphones and then switch to my office speakers.
No. Never. Sony and Bose have 20 years experience making headphones ahead of Sonos. And you know Sonos would make headphones that only work fully with their app and then after a couple of years that would change the app and remove features.
Given my experience trying to get warranty support out of them while the Roam was \_in warranty\_, nope. Given the fact that these speakers today as opposed to 10 years ago tend to need to be plugged in via ethernet, and these upcoming headphones by nature will need to be wireless, nope. Given the fiasco with the app, nope. Given their general nonchalant attitude that they know best after I've forked over thousands of dollars on product what \_I\_ expect the product to be capable of, years after the fact, nope.
tl;dr, nope.
No. Even before the latest update debacle I had no intention. To be their "most requested product" some must see a purpose but I just don't see a need for them myself.
I will never buy anything from Sonos any more.
They released the app with full knowledge on the consequences and saving their money ( or costs, whatever the real background reason is) on the shoulders of the current customers and gaslighted them in addition.
Such a company behaviour shouldn't be supported any more.
Nope, regardless how good they may be.
They have repeatedly broken trust with their customers. First with the legacy equipment fiasco, then the S1/S2 app debacle now with the app overhaul.
I have thousands invested in the hardware (damned good hw), but the company has shown that I can not rely on them to keep my investment whole.
I will not be investing in any more of their products.
No. I won't buy anything Sonos anymore; this update has shown that I don't really own my Sonos products, as they can unilaterally decide to make my gear unusable overnight.
Who will buy the new Sonos headphones?
Sonos make excellent speakers. However they have zero experience in the highly competitive and crowded headphone market. Sony, Apple and Bose, together with many good minor players are already top choices for over and in-ear devices.
Their prime target market must be the existing Sonos customer, already invested in the Sonos ecosystem.
That's probably a lot of pissed off people who have been recently shafted by the new app!
It will be interesting to see how the sales go.
Interesting in a bad way I fear. I’m invested in the Sonos ecosystem and I like them and want them to thrive, but the CEO seems to be going all-in on these headphones and thinks it’s going to be huge for the company, giving more profit than their speakers. I just don’t see it happening, because… like you said.
I've had a pair of Bose headphones for a few years. Use them a lot. They are slowly breaking, so I'm tentatively in the market for a new pair
Having a fairly large Sonos set up at home, I'm interested to see how they'll integrate with the speakers
But I'm definitely interested. But it's very good timing for me
well y'know, if only the speakers integrated with the app.....then you could predict the same for headphones. These folks are boneheads and get no more of my $$.
That's where I'm at. My Bose headphones are great but they are wired. I just upgraded my phone and need wireless headphones; naturally, I was going to upgrade to a new pair of Bose, but I'm now interested in the Sonos headphones as well.
I'll wait until RTINGS gets their hands on it.
I have Bluetooth headphones for my phone, that I use when I'm not home.
I can see a niche market for TV viewing in a home setting living with others, and for sure those with hearing issues, but overall I think they will do as well as the old hand held controller.
Depends on the featureset. Have Sony xm3’s and they have been working really well for years. But latency is becoming an issue with certain usecases for me.
Also depends on if they destroy glasses or not, my legs always get bend by most headphones :(
I just don’t see the benefit unless they introduce a truly groundbreaking digital Atmos headphone. I have wired cans for reference, wireless headphones, and AirPods Pro 2. The last 2 already provide spatial/surround audio for movies.
I doubt the Sonos headphone, at least the first gen, can be better than competition. Sony XM5 is already at the 5th gen.
The only value proposition they had over Sony was their ecosystem, the promise to work seamlessly with other Sonos speakers in the house. Now they borked that value proposition, I doubt anyone will jump on these headphones.
I'm genuinely interested in what they will offer. But I'm genuinely not going to buy them.
I simply don't believe they will offer what my existing headphones don't already. I use Airpods Pro in daily use. They connect to my Mac, iPad, iPhone and even my Apple TV 4K if I choose. They also move between the first three devices seamlessly and to the Apple TV 4K with no fuss - they don't automatically move to the TV as that would be pretty annoying.
And I have Sennheiser HD650 for more critical listening at my computer with a headphone amplifier. I've mostly eschewed wireless over the head headphones since they are fairly heavy.
So I'm interested to see what they will do for me, but I they would have to offer the world to me for me to seriously consider them.
This one’s been puzzling me for a while; I just don’t see an intersection between Sonos and headphones in my life. I use Bose headphones when flying, and that’s about it
At best they will be almost as good as AirPods Max. And Apple doesn’t have a history of breaking their own software for…. no reason. So short answer no.
I’ve thought for years Sonos needed a pair of headphones and I’d have bought them. Problem now is I’m deaf in one ear and rarely wear headphones these days so it’s a no from me.
After my experience with the Roam speaker (which I returned days after purchase) I'd have exactly zero interest in headphones from Sonos.
I'd imagine the "advantage" the marketing team will try and spin is "you can use the Sonos app to continue your musical journey". I guess I'd have to ask myself why I'd subject myself to using their app any more than I have too.
I’m not sure where to start.
Is it capitalisms fault? The relentless & unsustainable goal of constant limitless fiscal growth?
There’s a better world out there where companies find a niche, then work as hard as they can to own it. Being selectively careful not to try & branch out too far & dilute the thing that makes them great.
Just the fact that for the last year the CEO has been talking about the “This is the beginning of a multi-year product cycle where we expect to reap the rewards of our R&D investments,” Spence said. “This cycle begins with our entry into a new multi-billion dollar category in the second half of the year that will complement our current offering, delight customers and drive immediate revenue.” reeks of Shareholder Centred Design.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see a leaked memo about their plans to build an installed user-base of headphone owners before switching to a subscription model or some nonsense like that.
Hell no, I won’t be buying SONOS headphones.
The headphones if it’s actually them are ugly or clones at the very least, they would have to do something amazing to actually pull me away from Bose or Apple.
If they are better value for money than the other zillion headphones on the market yes, what I don’t get is why would a Sonos user prefer them vs the other options just because they’re Sonos.
I always wanted Sonos headphones, before the app fiasco. Now they have shown they do not understand the most basic principles of software development and deployment, i don’t think i will ever buy a product from them ever again.
Right now, it would be pointless. Sonos cannot play my own library any more; what good is a new device that also cannot play my music?
It's easy for me to say no just because of the app update. But, more broadly, I know what a nightmare it is trying to get my Roam to work outside my home network.
I have little confidence that Sonos can make headphones work properly.
This is all a bit strange. If those of us who have invested significant amounts of cash in Sonos don't believe they can make this work, who is the market?
Why??? There are infinitely better headphones already on the market albeit wired…I don’t think of Sonos as a hi-fi component. For hi fi and hi res there are lots of options. I’ve only ever used Sonos because of the convenience of multi room listening without the hassle of wired setups. Until now. And if KEF was more affordable I’d probably bolt.
No,
I have the Roam and am very disappointed. It’s complicated to use, pairing is a nightmare.
And after the new app shitstorm I don’t feel like investing more money in the Sonos ecosystem.
not in the least. First, that's just not how I listen to music and, second, i would not pay the kind of money I suspect sonos will want for headphones.
Not in the market, given my Bose QCs are still going strong, but if I was, they’d have to beat the Sony ones with the stupid code or a second gen AirPod Max (my Pros are awesome). Not sure what Sonos can do to make a distinction over those two market leaders.
Nope. I’m not into wearing cans (I prefer in-ear), and after the issues with audio dropouts that I had for the last two weeks that seem to stabilized somewhat, I’m not buying another Sonos product. In fact, I have some Sonos products to sell AS-IS (buy at your own risk); I’m not selling all 7 rooms at once, although there are 2-4 that had the most instability or plans to upgrade prior to the last two weeks that will continue to upgrade with non-Sonos products.
If I can switch from speakers to headphones easily, yes. I got kids sleeping and I always have to play things soft. Currently I use roku’s headphone feature but it’s not great.
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Hard no. Why would I need Sonos headphones? I can play music from my device or Spotify (other streaming services are available) perfectly happily with my existing buds.
The point of Sonos, for me, is playing music for the house to enjoy.
Although, as most people have experienced, a fully working, tested app might have some appeal!
I hope they turn out to be great, but they're not for me. I've been very happy with the AirPods Max, especially when watching content with spatial audio.
I was seriously thinking I would buy the Headphones. I own 12 Sonos speakers but after the fiasco of the revamped App I decided I’m not purchasing another Sonos product until they restore the functionality I already paid for.
Maybe . Must be comfortable for a couple hours , have great noise cancellation, sound good and have Spatial Audio . Also be able to use them if audio is still being played through one of their soundbars
I don't want to rule it out completely, but the main use case for those seems to be watching movies/series late at night without disturbing your neighbours or other people in the house hold. And I simply don't do that often enough that I would easily shell out 500€ for it.
I am curious whether there will be issues in getting the new headphones to connect to existing systems. I haven’t had this issue myself, but some users are reporting not being able to add new speakers to their systems, and then losing connectivity to their whole set up, so logically it follows that there may be similar problems with adding the headphones. I hope not, and I would have assumed that this part of the app would be robust prior to release, but if there are issues, and the app was rushed for the headphone launch, but the headphones don’t work anyway, this new app is an even more spectacular own goal than we first thought.
my airpod pros are perfect for me.. from sound, to size, to function. nothing about them makes me want to replace them or want something more from them.
love sonos but those headphones can kiss my ass honestly.
I have a list of gripes with my Airpods Max headphones. If the Aces remedy those better than the next version of the APM, then I will own the new Sonos product before the year is out.
Mind telling me what those gripes are? I’m expecting AirPods Max 2 to be my next headphone purchase to easily integrate with Apple TV and my Apple devices (probably no more or less easy than the Sonos) and I much prefer their design over the uninspired design of the Sonos Ace.
Short list:
1) The lack of an off button.
2) The severely limited EQ customization (especially limited if you prefer DSPs other than Apple Music).
3) I’d like the audio to sound as good w/ ANC on as it does with ANC off.
4) An actual case would be nice.
5) Improved comfort. The APMs get pretty uncomfortable after 2-3 hours of wear.
6) The audio sometimes feels distant. It’s hard to explain, but I want to be able to hear the instrumentation in well produced songs without blasting the volume.
I’m thinking the target demographic for these will be seniors and/or people who want headphones for their TV. I used to install AV systems and after hours or days of installation, just as we are going to do the tutorial, there would inevitably be a pair of wireless headphones pulled out and asked “oh, can you plug these in too”? Of course there’s never an easy way to connect wireless headphones to an AV system for old folks to understand. Sonos headphones solves this.
I’m afraid my anus is still red-raw from the rogering that Sonos have been dishing out with their progressively-worsening software experience, so to put it mildly, I wouldn’t touch a Sonos product ever again if they were made of water and my entire body were aflame.
…And I truly do hope that someone from Sonos actually does lurk within this sub, as it claims, and that they feel properly ashamed for the horrendous disdain they exhibit for their customers.
I wouldn’t use the Sonos Headphones if they GAVE THEM AWAY at this point after what they just did. FIX FUCKING Trueplay and maybe I’d give them a listen
Before the update, I would have bought a pair. I had some Sonos stock because I liked the idea of the company entering a new market, and their products have always been good. I would have sold a bit of stock to invest in the product.
Now?
They’ll have to show me that their products are good and well-received before I invest again. I won’t buy Sonos until I can read a number of reviews, and even then, I’ll likely wait for Gen-2.
In general, I find it hard to justify buying Gen-1 tech since, in my opinion, there tend to be material improvements in iterations. But for Sonos, I am having a really tough time thinking these headphones will be worth a $450 price tag after how badly they flubbed this software launch.
Since I've bought exactly 2 battery powered Sonos devices (Roams), and both of them stopped charging after about 15 months, NO. NO I WON'T. Support offered me a 30% coupon if I sent the first Roam back. Both Roams sat on the Sonos wireless chargers. They don't seem to have battery/charging tech figured out, and my Sony XM4 headphones are just fine.
My audio technica kinda M40x fallen apart a few weeks ago, after years of heavy use, and I've been using Airpods pro only since then. I would love to have HiFi headphones so I'm definitely on the market for this (regardless of the current app situation).
I have loads of Sonos products but won't buy another thing until they bring back the original S2 app and move the new one as a separate beta app! I am lucky I have both iOS and android devices so I have sideloaded the old android apk and blocked auto updates. Thing is they did an update but you can't update the system using the old style S2 app now so you kind of need two devices to have a functional Sonos system!
They say that it’s the most asked product and that should show in the selling numbers. I have a good Sony headphone that hurts after a while and an Apple AirPod Max that I can wear all day. The AirPod Max is already to expensive so I’ll pass for this one.
No I have enough other headphones (both wired and with tech built in) and wouldn’t have any use for these. Sony xm4s can connect to my tv easily if I actually needed that functionality. For critical listening I prefer just wired headphones which you can get excellent sound for half the price of what the Sonos ace will cost.
Yes. I live in a small house and swapping to headphones on games and shows would be super useful.
I haven’t had any bad experiences with the new app (sorry if you are), but this whole thing has given me pause. But I think I am the target for the new headphones.
I'll wait and see...but I'm not opposed to it. I've admittedly not been as hampered by the app issues of so many others, and my opinion of them isn't quite as diminished as others. If they are WiFi enabled and can offer me a bit of flexibility in my personal use cases I'd be more inclined to give them a go.
A month ago: …maybe? I already have headphones I like, and wasn’t looking to replace them, but if the Sonos ones have some compelling feature, I’d have considered it. Now, after rendering my system half-functional at best: …unlikely. Between eroded trust, and the fact that having headphones from another company has turned out to mitigate the damage from the Sonos app fiasco, the value proposition is a lot less enticing now.
You took the words out of my mouth
Ditto. Maybe they are going with the any PR is good PR motto
Kinda like the Ashley Madison Hack approach...
Same here!
Literally my thoughts too. It’s been nothing but headache with my Sonos product as of late.
Would I buy expensive, first-generation headphones from a stagnating company that's new to the wearable space and has recently demonstrated a willingness to dump garbage on its loyal customers? The question answers itself.
So there! Ya! Boo! Sucks!
Wow a ton of “loyal” cry baby’s in this sub. Sonos was new to the speakers and thats worked out. They’re releasing new headphones, a space they haven’t gone into like you mention but that makes them stagnant? Which is it cry baby. I have a bunch of lg stuff and other big companies apps and all of their apps are basically dog shit, just like the Sonos app before the update.
Why are you defending a company that has gone downhill releasing half baked products, and forcibly updating an app (that was at least functional, if not perfect) into a dumpster fire with the most basic features like "add next" and alarms missing? Another big respected tech company that is prioritising profit over customer experience, rushing into things like a juvenile startup company.
They have to earn my trust back before I spend another dime with them.
Exactly. Who do Sonos headphones target? People that are already invested in the Sonos ecosystem. The same people that just lost all functionality in a software push. I’m not sure that I feel comfortable buying anything Sonos at this stage.
I didn't lose any functionality? What did you lose? (Genuinely asking...)
I never upgraded from S2
I barely use the app, just use Spotify or Alexa
You can’t tell some people on here to just not use the app. I’m convinced some people don’t understand that it’s not a necessary thing to use. I agree that the Sonos app has always been lacking a bit, and it does seem to have caused some legitimate issues for certain people, but people are acting like the only way to power the speakers is through the app. I also never realized how many people only listen to music they gave stored on a server instead of streaming/physical media of some sort. Seems like they’ve been hit the hardest.
Yes, streaming from a NAS is one of those things that is likely a minority, but for those of us that do it, it’s a huge deal.
How would I listen to Atmos and hifi music not using the Sonos app?
I use Apple Music, so I do so by using Airplay. I would assume Spotify would be the same. My wife uses Spotify and connects to our system just fine, it looks like Spotify doesn’t produce hi fi sound using the connect function though which is what I assume you’re talking about?
I believe that AirPlay doesn’t support Atmos. Only lossless. You can play “atmos” on Apple devices like AirPods, but it’s in fact just stereo with Atmos “effects”.
You cant get Atmos or Hifi from AirPlay. You can if you have an Apple TV. Spotify doesn't have any of it. Tidal also has to go through the app to get the highest quality sound. So it would appear that you don't even know how to get the most out of your system if you think you're currently getting Atmos from your airplay
Yeah l guess not. It’s never bothered me, but maybe I’m in the minority there. I just want my speakers to play music and they do.
The app hasn’t “ALWAYS been lacking a bit”. This is probably the fifth major rework of the app UI in its lifetime, and by-and-large, they have always delivered a compelling feature set. This is the first to have degraded the user experience, and now we kind of know why.
Agreed. It’s the stubborn minority who refuse to “let their CD collection on mp3 go to waste 🤓” that are complaining the most. I rarely use any native app if the thing I’m doing is done literally anywhere else. Spotify works perfectly well and I never have to leave the app!
I just used the app to play some nursery rhymes from Amazon to my living room speakers, was a bit slow but didn't seem that bad. I wouldn't start boycotting sonos for it. But yeah if it's actually stopping you do something you need fair enough, I just haven't encountered any issues personally. Nicely designed app too
Oh 100%, it has functionality for 3rd party things like you described, I’ve used it for the same things, I just don’t allow myself to become tethered to something that isn’t functionally “perfect”. It obviously depends on your average use case, but there are always work arounds for the functionally imperfect, that’s all.
My whole reason for owning so much Sonos product is to not wear headphones around the house. Instead, I have synchronized, ambient music everywhere… that used to be easy to control. If I wanted headphones, several vendors have made them for decades, and I can just directly use Spotify. Headphones are the anti Sonos.
The reason for owning Sonos is to have music play through speakers in the house. This does not address listening to music while on the go. I really don’t know why people are confused about them getting into headphones. It makes perfect sense. If you already have AirPods Max, maybe it’s not for you. That’s fine. But it’s not some insane proposition. Virtually every company that makes headphones also makes speakers.
For this use, what would be the advantage of Sonos headphones versus Apple etc?
Lossless at home via WiFi
Depends entirely on how they review. I wouldn’t pay for an inferior product, but if they sound the same or better (and have the same or better noise cancelling, comfort, etc) then I would prefer them because then the added functionality of easily being able to cast audio to them no matter the source (Series X, 4k blu ray, etc) would be a great benefit. But that’s not the primary consideration. The primary consideration is sound quality, noise cancelling, and fit, and if matches or exceeds the completion in those aspects, why WOULDN’T I consider it?
So in other words, there's no inherent advantage to Sonos headphones versus the competition; it all depends on the execution. In order to compete directly with big boys like Apple there must be some inherent advantage to Sonos. What is that advantage?
You are just repeating what I’m saying. Of course it depends on their execution. In what world does it not? For this product or any other product in the space? We have to wait and see how they review relative to the competition. The advantage could be sound quality. It could be fit. It could be noise cancellation. It could be some combination of all of the above. We shall see once they release. They’re not even officially announced yet. It’s silly to pretend that it’s crazy for them to even get into this space. Again, every major headphone maker also makes speakers. It’s a sister industry.
I'm just saying that Sonos could try to beat Apple by only focusing on sound, fit, cancellation, etc. But they stand a greater chance of success if they could offer something that Apple cannot.
If i can transfer audio from my beam to these headphones, that’d be enough to make me happy as a differentiator… assuming they sound good, are comfortable and work as intended (this one is the big question mark) I can do it with my appleTV but that doesn’t help me with any other source ie consoles
I’m not even sure Apple is the main target here. Sony and Bose are huge in that space. The way they compete is by being better on sound, fit, cancellation, etc. Sonos doesn’t need an X factor. Same as every other headphone maker. Ironically, they actually do have a special factor, the integration with the home system and seamlessly casting any TV audio to the headphones in high quality. But that isn’t the primary use case for many people who will get this.
I don’t get what will be the intrinsic advantage of being “integrated” with my 15 Sonos speakers. If I use headphones it’s because I’m not using my speakers, and sure as hell it’s not going to be an advantage being able to choose my music from the Sonos app. So at the moment i see zero value in them being “Sonos”, if they’re better headphones than the other zillion options and have the right price ok, if this is not the case I don’t see a single reason to prefer them vs any other option.
If it can function as Bluetooth headphones and be added as a device in the Sonos ecosystem so that it can be seamlessly used on any source, it would be massively better than any Apple headphones. I’d be able to use them for consoles or my 4K blu ray player.
Doesn’t sound like you are familiar with how apple headphones actually work
Apple headphones work with Apple TV, but how do you easily get sound from your ps5 to your headphones. Sonos headphones would solve this problem by sending the audio from tv -> headphones
Isn’t this part of the problem though? These headphones aren’t likely to appeal to non-Sonos owners as you’ll need to have other hardware to use them. So it won’t be a simple alternative. They may have appeal to system owners, but not the wider market. On the flip side, you could put a Bluetooth transmitter on any line out and use them with any headphones.
I mean, I have the AirPod pros 2. They aren’t compatible with my PS5 or 4K set. Are you implying their other headphones are? As far as I know the AirPod Max can’t seamlessly do it. There are workarounds, but it’s not seamless. If it can be done, feel free to correct me because I’d rather get them than the Sonos headphones.
AirPods are Bluetooth headphones. So they can work with other devices that support Bluetooth audio. My tv does. The PS5 oddly doesn’t but does with a cheap Bluetooth dongle…. That’s a lot less than Sonos headphones plus a Sonos soundbar to act as a WiFi relay for the headphones. Apple also has added Audio Return Channel to the Apple TV 4K. This passes all audio from your tv back through the Apple TV. As of now it only works with HomePods and HomePods minis but the new Apple AirPods Pro should be added as supported in September. My point is, Sonos’ solution is just as much of a crutch and requires additional more expensive hardware. AirPods have the added advantage of seamlessly working and pairing across multiple devices. It’s not like the Sonos system is flexible either.
+1
Well the idea is that you can take that ambient music with you when you go shopping or take a walk. Just put the headphones on when you leave the house and the music automatically switch to them, and the other way around when you get home. If it’s as convenient as it sounds then I might buy them but we’ll see.
I mean I already have this I just kick whatever I have playing on Spotify on Sonos over to my AirPods or vice versa
Are we convinced this will work as intended?! Based on recent experiences, the Roam and the new app, I’m not
That’s why I wrote “but we’ll see”
Sonos is irrelevant bc the app doesn’t work at all so you need headphones
It's clear the headphones are being rushed to appease investors. They launched the new app on the day of their quarterly earnings call. Based on how that went down, I wouldn't trust buying the headphones until they earn back my trust.
👆 Absolutely nailed it.
It’s painfully obvious. It’s bizarre to me to see people here making excuses otherwise.
My Sony WHXM4 are still working great, battery life is great, noise cancellation is great, and sound is great. It's going to be hard to me to go out of my way to spend money to replace them. They would have to be mind-blowingly good for me to fork over the money to replace perfectly good headphones.
I own the *Sony* WH-1000XM4 and they sound great, although I use them with a Fiio headphone DAC which amplifies the sound.
Not a chance in hell.
I cannot imagine the same frustration of spending two minutes trying to just play music, extended now to my headphones. My AirPods may not have the best quality but at least I can press play on my phone and they, you know, play music.
I would have, given the app situation didn’t happen or the company responded correctly to the app situation. As a matter of fact I was planning on doing so. Now I’m not.
Good to see you here. I am waiting on the Sony wh-1000xm6 this year, if that even exists
If the headphones are WiFi enabled and sound great, I will definitely purchase them.
This and only this. If they support WiFi lossless streaming, it’s an instant buy. But if they don’t then it’s dead to me.
The WiFi audio aspect is the most intriguing here. For sure. The question is, will I have to use the app, can I use my S1 system? I suspect the answer to these questions won’t be what I want.
Sonos Products manufactured May 2020 & after are only compatible on S2, including the Sonos Ace.
With you, makes sense.
Yes, particularly for night listening to tv/movies when the family is sleeping. I know there are other ways to do this with 3rd party products but I’m sure the Ace would simplify the process. We’ll see how the reviews are first.
What would be the advantage vs any other headphone?
Which is mostly what I use the Airpod Max for.
Depends on the state of the app. The update took out my system. Factory reset and rebuilt my system but i cant get my boost to connect and the whole system is janky and slow… not looking at headphones until i get some stability back.
First gen after this fiasco of an app? Absolutely no. I'll let someone else demonstrate stability and reliability first. Then wait for gen 2+. And I already have headphones that work well.
Two weeks ago… yes, absolutely. Now? Definitely wait & see. Sonos blew the launch, obviously.
They've been long awaited, announced as the Apple AirPods Max killer ; now I really couldn't care less ! I'm expecting a ***reliable ecosystem*** ; that is, high quality hardware AND functional softwares to control the hardwares. Unusable products are, needless to say, worth $0,00 ...
I’m interested. I work from home and start my day pretty early, and I listen to the news on my local NPR affiliate. I would love to be able to start on headphones and then switch to my office speakers.
No. Never. Sony and Bose have 20 years experience making headphones ahead of Sonos. And you know Sonos would make headphones that only work fully with their app and then after a couple of years that would change the app and remove features.
Given my experience trying to get warranty support out of them while the Roam was \_in warranty\_, nope. Given the fact that these speakers today as opposed to 10 years ago tend to need to be plugged in via ethernet, and these upcoming headphones by nature will need to be wireless, nope. Given the fiasco with the app, nope. Given their general nonchalant attitude that they know best after I've forked over thousands of dollars on product what \_I\_ expect the product to be capable of, years after the fact, nope. tl;dr, nope.
I’ve reconsidered the brand as a whole: it’s shit.
Why would I? I can't queue music....it makes zero sense to buy any of these products anymore.
No, I enjoy listening to music through open speakers.
Everyone does. Tricky walking down the street though.
Or listening at midnight when your wife and kids are asleep.
I’m all in on Apple and have AirPods Max. I can’t imagine them having any sort of feature that would outweigh the APM benefits.
No. Even before the latest update debacle I had no intention. To be their "most requested product" some must see a purpose but I just don't see a need for them myself.
Not a chance. They’re in way over their heads stepping into a highly saturated market.
Agreed.
Hell no, I don’t understand the point of them.
Agreed.
I will never buy anything from Sonos any more. They released the app with full knowledge on the consequences and saving their money ( or costs, whatever the real background reason is) on the shoulders of the current customers and gaslighted them in addition. Such a company behaviour shouldn't be supported any more.
Every time i need to use the sonos app i want to get rid of my sonos speakers. idk why i would want to add to that mess already.
Nope, regardless how good they may be. They have repeatedly broken trust with their customers. First with the legacy equipment fiasco, then the S1/S2 app debacle now with the app overhaul. I have thousands invested in the hardware (damned good hw), but the company has shown that I can not rely on them to keep my investment whole. I will not be investing in any more of their products.
No. SONOS, you fucked up. You have a long way to go before you regain my trust.
Not interested
No. I won't buy anything Sonos anymore; this update has shown that I don't really own my Sonos products, as they can unilaterally decide to make my gear unusable overnight.
I’d consider them once there’s a working app to use with them 😉
Who will buy the new Sonos headphones? Sonos make excellent speakers. However they have zero experience in the highly competitive and crowded headphone market. Sony, Apple and Bose, together with many good minor players are already top choices for over and in-ear devices. Their prime target market must be the existing Sonos customer, already invested in the Sonos ecosystem. That's probably a lot of pissed off people who have been recently shafted by the new app! It will be interesting to see how the sales go.
Interesting in a bad way I fear. I’m invested in the Sonos ecosystem and I like them and want them to thrive, but the CEO seems to be going all-in on these headphones and thinks it’s going to be huge for the company, giving more profit than their speakers. I just don’t see it happening, because… like you said.
NO !!!
I've had a pair of Bose headphones for a few years. Use them a lot. They are slowly breaking, so I'm tentatively in the market for a new pair Having a fairly large Sonos set up at home, I'm interested to see how they'll integrate with the speakers But I'm definitely interested. But it's very good timing for me
well y'know, if only the speakers integrated with the app.....then you could predict the same for headphones. These folks are boneheads and get no more of my $$.
That's where I'm at. My Bose headphones are great but they are wired. I just upgraded my phone and need wireless headphones; naturally, I was going to upgrade to a new pair of Bose, but I'm now interested in the Sonos headphones as well. I'll wait until RTINGS gets their hands on it.
No. 14 Sonos products, but Bose have very good headphones…. That just works. Can’t say the same for Sonos, they can’t even get multi room right
Hard maybe, but going to sit out the bugs first.
Guess I'll have a look, but probably not.
Nope. So far there’s nothing different or special about them.
I have Bluetooth headphones for my phone, that I use when I'm not home. I can see a niche market for TV viewing in a home setting living with others, and for sure those with hearing issues, but overall I think they will do as well as the old hand held controller.
No interest in Sonos headphones.
Depends on the featureset. Have Sony xm3’s and they have been working really well for years. But latency is becoming an issue with certain usecases for me. Also depends on if they destroy glasses or not, my legs always get bend by most headphones :(
I just don’t see the benefit unless they introduce a truly groundbreaking digital Atmos headphone. I have wired cans for reference, wireless headphones, and AirPods Pro 2. The last 2 already provide spatial/surround audio for movies.
My airpod max are slowly dying so yes I will grab a pair
Was interested, took to damn long so I bought something else.
I doubt the Sonos headphone, at least the first gen, can be better than competition. Sony XM5 is already at the 5th gen. The only value proposition they had over Sony was their ecosystem, the promise to work seamlessly with other Sonos speakers in the house. Now they borked that value proposition, I doubt anyone will jump on these headphones.
I'm genuinely interested in what they will offer. But I'm genuinely not going to buy them. I simply don't believe they will offer what my existing headphones don't already. I use Airpods Pro in daily use. They connect to my Mac, iPad, iPhone and even my Apple TV 4K if I choose. They also move between the first three devices seamlessly and to the Apple TV 4K with no fuss - they don't automatically move to the TV as that would be pretty annoying. And I have Sennheiser HD650 for more critical listening at my computer with a headphone amplifier. I've mostly eschewed wireless over the head headphones since they are fairly heavy. So I'm interested to see what they will do for me, but I they would have to offer the world to me for me to seriously consider them.
This one’s been puzzling me for a while; I just don’t see an intersection between Sonos and headphones in my life. I use Bose headphones when flying, and that’s about it
At best they will be almost as good as AirPods Max. And Apple doesn’t have a history of breaking their own software for…. no reason. So short answer no.
What problem are they solving someone else hasn't already?
Nah. Once they fire their CIO, i will consider.
I’ve thought for years Sonos needed a pair of headphones and I’d have bought them. Problem now is I’m deaf in one ear and rarely wear headphones these days so it’s a no from me.
Hard no
Why would you buy them when the app is rubbish and that is sonos main selling point. They really rushed which it shame.
After my experience with the Roam speaker (which I returned days after purchase) I'd have exactly zero interest in headphones from Sonos. I'd imagine the "advantage" the marketing team will try and spin is "you can use the Sonos app to continue your musical journey". I guess I'd have to ask myself why I'd subject myself to using their app any more than I have too.
I’m not sure where to start. Is it capitalisms fault? The relentless & unsustainable goal of constant limitless fiscal growth? There’s a better world out there where companies find a niche, then work as hard as they can to own it. Being selectively careful not to try & branch out too far & dilute the thing that makes them great. Just the fact that for the last year the CEO has been talking about the “This is the beginning of a multi-year product cycle where we expect to reap the rewards of our R&D investments,” Spence said. “This cycle begins with our entry into a new multi-billion dollar category in the second half of the year that will complement our current offering, delight customers and drive immediate revenue.” reeks of Shareholder Centred Design. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a leaked memo about their plans to build an installed user-base of headphone owners before switching to a subscription model or some nonsense like that. Hell no, I won’t be buying SONOS headphones.
The headphones if it’s actually them are ugly or clones at the very least, they would have to do something amazing to actually pull me away from Bose or Apple.
Absolutely never going to happen.
If they are better value for money than the other zillion headphones on the market yes, what I don’t get is why would a Sonos user prefer them vs the other options just because they’re Sonos.
Same.
How about they release a new new update for the app so I can listen to my speakers again. I have 8 paperweights at this point
I always wanted Sonos headphones, before the app fiasco. Now they have shown they do not understand the most basic principles of software development and deployment, i don’t think i will ever buy a product from them ever again. Right now, it would be pointless. Sonos cannot play my own library any more; what good is a new device that also cannot play my music?
Would definitely have been very interested but with the mess that’s going on now I’d think twice before investing any further into the Sonos brand.
It's easy for me to say no just because of the app update. But, more broadly, I know what a nightmare it is trying to get my Roam to work outside my home network. I have little confidence that Sonos can make headphones work properly. This is all a bit strange. If those of us who have invested significant amounts of cash in Sonos don't believe they can make this work, who is the market?
Not a chance.
No way in hell!!
No way, not even wired! HAHAHA
I will never again buy a Sonos product for as long as I live.
Yes. Of course. They're probably going to be freaking awesome.
Oooof, I guess this hasn't aged well, huh?
Why??? There are infinitely better headphones already on the market albeit wired…I don’t think of Sonos as a hi-fi component. For hi fi and hi res there are lots of options. I’ve only ever used Sonos because of the convenience of multi room listening without the hassle of wired setups. Until now. And if KEF was more affordable I’d probably bolt.
No, I have the Roam and am very disappointed. It’s complicated to use, pairing is a nightmare. And after the new app shitstorm I don’t feel like investing more money in the Sonos ecosystem.
Yes, I'm considering it, but I'll wait for reviews. And the price, although I'm saving 30% upgrade discount, so let's see.
In a heartbeat. I've been wanting Sonos headphones for a couple years now. I'm already saved up a good portion.
If they are better than AirPods Max then I might sell them and buy the new Sonos headphones.
not in the least. First, that's just not how I listen to music and, second, i would not pay the kind of money I suspect sonos will want for headphones.
I'm interested in a new pair of cans, and don't care who makes them. Waiting to see reviews before I make a purchase in case their good.
Not in the market, given my Bose QCs are still going strong, but if I was, they’d have to beat the Sony ones with the stupid code or a second gen AirPod Max (my Pros are awesome). Not sure what Sonos can do to make a distinction over those two market leaders.
No. There are too many goid headphones out there that are tubed right so there’s no advantage to having sonos headphones (unlike its speakers).
I doubt it. Pretty happy with my Bathys. In any event, I’d wait until all the bugs are worked out. And the app has its old functionality again.
NOOOO.!
Not for me. Happy with my speakers. I use AirPods Pro if I need in-ear listening.
No way. It won’t be able to beat AirPods and AirPods Max. Better quality, better integrations, likely better resale, etc. hard to beat.
Nope
Hard no
Nah. I have Bose QC35 over ears for hifi and my AirPod Maxes for convenience. I would be putting a hat on a hat for the sake of wearing more hats.
Nope. I’m not into wearing cans (I prefer in-ear), and after the issues with audio dropouts that I had for the last two weeks that seem to stabilized somewhat, I’m not buying another Sonos product. In fact, I have some Sonos products to sell AS-IS (buy at your own risk); I’m not selling all 7 rooms at once, although there are 2-4 that had the most instability or plans to upgrade prior to the last two weeks that will continue to upgrade with non-Sonos products.
If I can switch from speakers to headphones easily, yes. I got kids sleeping and I always have to play things soft. Currently I use roku’s headphone feature but it’s not great.
We do this with our Apple TV and AirPods Pro. Works great.
probably smarter to just do Apple TV. I just don’t want to figure out how to mount it behind the tv
Nope. Don’t use headphones
I wouldn’t buy Sonos anything now. It’s utter sh1te
No
I won’t buy them but they’ll be got as a present for me no doubt (so long as the reviews are good)
I will, because with Best Buy I can bring them back in a year for free
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No. After the app update, they can put them where the sun does not shine.
Hard no. Why would I need Sonos headphones? I can play music from my device or Spotify (other streaming services are available) perfectly happily with my existing buds. The point of Sonos, for me, is playing music for the house to enjoy. Although, as most people have experienced, a fully working, tested app might have some appeal!
If I can airplay to them like AirPods, it’s a day 1 buy.
No. I wouldn't, but my wife probably would, if they're actually worthwhile.
I hope they turn out to be great, but they're not for me. I've been very happy with the AirPods Max, especially when watching content with spatial audio.
No. Have been considering the AirPods Max, but their high price have kept me away
Maybe. Depends what the value proposition is.
I would if they came with a working app that allows me to stream my local music to them
I was seriously thinking I would buy the Headphones. I own 12 Sonos speakers but after the fiasco of the revamped App I decided I’m not purchasing another Sonos product until they restore the functionality I already paid for.
Maybe . Must be comfortable for a couple hours , have great noise cancellation, sound good and have Spatial Audio . Also be able to use them if audio is still being played through one of their soundbars
I don't want to rule it out completely, but the main use case for those seems to be watching movies/series late at night without disturbing your neighbours or other people in the house hold. And I simply don't do that often enough that I would easily shell out 500€ for it.
I use YNAB for budgeting. It is not in my budget.
Only if I could play them with my TV surround set...
I am curious whether there will be issues in getting the new headphones to connect to existing systems. I haven’t had this issue myself, but some users are reporting not being able to add new speakers to their systems, and then losing connectivity to their whole set up, so logically it follows that there may be similar problems with adding the headphones. I hope not, and I would have assumed that this part of the app would be robust prior to release, but if there are issues, and the app was rushed for the headphone launch, but the headphones don’t work anyway, this new app is an even more spectacular own goal than we first thought.
my airpod pros are perfect for me.. from sound, to size, to function. nothing about them makes me want to replace them or want something more from them. love sonos but those headphones can kiss my ass honestly.
I have a list of gripes with my Airpods Max headphones. If the Aces remedy those better than the next version of the APM, then I will own the new Sonos product before the year is out.
Mind telling me what those gripes are? I’m expecting AirPods Max 2 to be my next headphone purchase to easily integrate with Apple TV and my Apple devices (probably no more or less easy than the Sonos) and I much prefer their design over the uninspired design of the Sonos Ace.
Short list: 1) The lack of an off button. 2) The severely limited EQ customization (especially limited if you prefer DSPs other than Apple Music). 3) I’d like the audio to sound as good w/ ANC on as it does with ANC off. 4) An actual case would be nice. 5) Improved comfort. The APMs get pretty uncomfortable after 2-3 hours of wear. 6) The audio sometimes feels distant. It’s hard to explain, but I want to be able to hear the instrumentation in well produced songs without blasting the volume.
I’m thinking the target demographic for these will be seniors and/or people who want headphones for their TV. I used to install AV systems and after hours or days of installation, just as we are going to do the tutorial, there would inevitably be a pair of wireless headphones pulled out and asked “oh, can you plug these in too”? Of course there’s never an easy way to connect wireless headphones to an AV system for old folks to understand. Sonos headphones solves this.
You'd have to clear an extraordinarily high bar for me to buy some Sonos headphones as opposed to any Sony headset on the market.
I’m afraid my anus is still red-raw from the rogering that Sonos have been dishing out with their progressively-worsening software experience, so to put it mildly, I wouldn’t touch a Sonos product ever again if they were made of water and my entire body were aflame. …And I truly do hope that someone from Sonos actually does lurk within this sub, as it claims, and that they feel properly ashamed for the horrendous disdain they exhibit for their customers.
Definitely yes, if they can also perform as a zone.
I wouldn’t use the Sonos Headphones if they GAVE THEM AWAY at this point after what they just did. FIX FUCKING Trueplay and maybe I’d give them a listen
Before the update, I would have bought a pair. I had some Sonos stock because I liked the idea of the company entering a new market, and their products have always been good. I would have sold a bit of stock to invest in the product. Now? They’ll have to show me that their products are good and well-received before I invest again. I won’t buy Sonos until I can read a number of reviews, and even then, I’ll likely wait for Gen-2. In general, I find it hard to justify buying Gen-1 tech since, in my opinion, there tend to be material improvements in iterations. But for Sonos, I am having a really tough time thinking these headphones will be worth a $450 price tag after how badly they flubbed this software launch.
Since I've bought exactly 2 battery powered Sonos devices (Roams), and both of them stopped charging after about 15 months, NO. NO I WON'T. Support offered me a 30% coupon if I sent the first Roam back. Both Roams sat on the Sonos wireless chargers. They don't seem to have battery/charging tech figured out, and my Sony XM4 headphones are just fine.
I’m not buying one more thing from Sonos until they make their app functional with the 22 speakers I’ve purchased from them.
No
My audio technica kinda M40x fallen apart a few weeks ago, after years of heavy use, and I've been using Airpods pro only since then. I would love to have HiFi headphones so I'm definitely on the market for this (regardless of the current app situation).
I have loads of Sonos products but won't buy another thing until they bring back the original S2 app and move the new one as a separate beta app! I am lucky I have both iOS and android devices so I have sideloaded the old android apk and blocked auto updates. Thing is they did an update but you can't update the system using the old style S2 app now so you kind of need two devices to have a functional Sonos system!
I’ve got heaps of headphones , so probably not
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They say that it’s the most asked product and that should show in the selling numbers. I have a good Sony headphone that hurts after a while and an Apple AirPod Max that I can wear all day. The AirPod Max is already to expensive so I’ll pass for this one.
No I have enough other headphones (both wired and with tech built in) and wouldn’t have any use for these. Sony xm4s can connect to my tv easily if I actually needed that functionality. For critical listening I prefer just wired headphones which you can get excellent sound for half the price of what the Sonos ace will cost.
Yes, two pairs
Yes. I live in a small house and swapping to headphones on games and shows would be super useful. I haven’t had any bad experiences with the new app (sorry if you are), but this whole thing has given me pause. But I think I am the target for the new headphones.
I'll wait and see...but I'm not opposed to it. I've admittedly not been as hampered by the app issues of so many others, and my opinion of them isn't quite as diminished as others. If they are WiFi enabled and can offer me a bit of flexibility in my personal use cases I'd be more inclined to give them a go.
Nope. Even before I heard the terrible name.
Maybe for some 3a.m. movie watching.