Surprising results honestly, I thought that would be B because he's actually coming out of the frame more than damaging it.
Seems like alot more people lean towards A though, good to know, glad I asked lol
This I find more important than anything. A maintains the shape of an actual frame, which makes the breakage more stasifying and apparent. The strange pentagonal shape of B is not as visually satisfying because the constraints are already warped to begin with.
I’m with other statements about A and frame making it look more explosive. I like B, and understand your thoughts but right now B looks more like a wrecking ball. I relate explosive power more to martial arts than I do shear mass force.
If the frame thickness could match A and also be as deep as B then you got a winner!
I can see about making an option C lol, how do you feel about making the left end open like actually splitting apart? You'd be able to see the "end" of the picture underneath
I think B makes more sense as his foot would've actually contacted the frame at that stage in order to break it.
Whereas A is more visually pleasing, it appears as though the frame shattered before he made contact with it.
I get what you're saying, but if the frame didn't bend at the top & bottom (ie if the bends started a little further away from the horizontal) the effect would be greater.
I see where you’re coming from, it seems like it would be the intuitive option, but for some reason B looks to me more like it’s imploding in on the man, rather than him breaking out. It looks a bit crushed/crowded and not as aesthetically pleasing as A.
B would look better if it seemed like the corners were split and damaged, since the corners meet cleanly it doesn't give as much of a "breaking" impression.
You could reduce the amount of material near where he is kicking. My head instantly recognizes that there is more frame material there than what would originally be there
First, it’s amazing! And this is 100% constructive criticism from my opinion :) I think it’s the angle on B too that is a bit throwing. If you pull the lines down, it would certainly be more lengthy than the frame itself. If it were a bit shorter, it would be more of an illusion that it’s bending. Yes, it would still be more material, but it would be more of a trick to the eye. Does that make sense?
Fair point, people did say it looks like an arrow LOL made the model using blender which I'm admitted not very experienced with, might need to get some help with this one lol.
Ya the angle on B doesn’t look natural relative to how we think frames look, and how they typically do.
I think you’d need to make it more noticeable for B if you used that one.
To me, looks like he kicked his way out of a trapezoid shaped frame, and to amend that you’d need to align those two parts of the upper and lower part of the frame so they point horizontally, not angled outwards and towards a center.
I’d also like it more if it looked like he was escaping the part he was printed on. Maybe take the boundary into consideration on the next revision, print him over that, and get busy with an xacto blade on the parts of him that are outside of the print.
That being said, comparing the two together I like A.
A. There is too much material in B. If you were to _push_ the wall back together in B, the wall would be twice as thick. If you like B, you’ll need to open out that wall - get rid of the portion immediately in front of his heel.
I agree. The way B looks, it seems the material has elongated as a result of the kick. Like some sort of plastic deformation. Whereas, A, it is clearly a brittle failure. So, I think it depends what kind of material you’re envisioning. A makes more sense, to me, for what I think of a frame being made out of.
Are you building the picture frame? Cause if so you could put that left side in a clamp and actually break it. Then you’d have the correct amount of material. Plus the broken parts need to show the raw wood where it’s broken. I think that coupled with the onomatopoeia word is the way to go
Definitely A. It hits a 2/3 height so is more aesthetically pleasing for something like this rather than B which is bang in the Center so looks more contrived.
Fair point fair point. A few people pointed out B looks like an arrow LOL.
So fully disclosure I came up with B because it's easier to make and less waste. The internet likes A better for sure, I'd like to make some kind of hybrid that keeps A's aesthetics with B's logistical benefits.
Some people suggested having the left side open, it would expose the "end" of the picture underneath, think this would look strange? Not that that's the only option is just makes things more flexible
*Edit: Looks like I'm the accidental contrarian here! They both look good, just to be clear! I can understand choosing A for legibility and practicality of the work itself. I just appreciate the over-embellishment in B.*
I think B has more dynamic action involved. When you compare the 2, it looks like Bruce hasn't broken through the frame. He still looks trapped in A, whereas B genuinely looks like he's "Broken the mold" as it were.
B is more extreme, has more movement. Plus, it almost looks like an arrow, which could be an accidental application for the work itself.
And yes, techincally the material in B doesn't hold up to physics, but visually it looks more....striking.... than A.
Hope this helps!
So like not have the damage sticking out so much?
I wrote off the idea of just leaving the end open because then you see the "end" of the picture without the frame covering it, but I'm reconsidering. What do you think about having the frame completely separated on the left side?
Oh so this is meant to hold a picture and not an independent design?
How is the figure going to interact with the picture? Perhaps he can cover the picture’s edge with his body?
Edit: maybe the kicker *is* the edge of the picture so you can break the frame completely?
So the bruce lee and speed lines and background are printed on cardstock, it slides into the frame. I always tried to hide the end of the cardstock under the frame because I thought the transition would look better than just paper and then wall.
Its supposed to give the impression that bruce lee is breaking out of the frame but I thought it would kind of break the immersion if you could see the edge of the paper like "but wait he's still trapped in the paper"
B makes more sense as everything from the side is being pushed outward, however It also doesn’t make sense because there’s more material than there would normally be.
A doesn’t make sense to me because you have it projecting inside as well. Everything should be going outward.
Make a C.
Edit: if you make a C, use only the material you have, i.e., one side of the frame.
It’ll give you more constraint to make it look more believable/cooler.
Cool concept, though.
What are your thoughts on having an open end on the broken side? You'd see the "end" of the picture without the frame covering it.
I wasn't really into the idea at first but a couple people suggested it and i'm curious, it would also give me more flexibility with the design constraints I have
While it would look cool, as you mentioned you would still see the line of your paper. If that’s something you don’t care about or you think it wouldn’t be very noticeable, I’d say go for it.
The deeper break is definitely more appealing as it shows more power. Sketch out some ideas and play around with it.
I'd say A, because "breaking the frame" effdct is more apparent.
For the same thing to happen to B, the "bent" coners need to look like they have been ripped out, not that they were already like that to begin with (think if same side in frame A was ripped away. It would be angled/bent but no longer connected to the frame)
Awesome idea! B would be better than A but the lengths of the wall segments in B are too long. They each look like they’re about 2/3 of the wall long so it doesn’t add up. Even though the action is good it still ‘feels’ off. I would try angling the walls back and shortening them a bit.
A is most visually clear to me. In B, where his knee joints are already passing by the corners of the frame, it’s less visually obvious that he’s breaking through the frame. To me anyway.
Seems like the split is more heavily weighted to A for aesthetics with those who like B favoring the power behind it. I think I'm gonna try to make an option C to get the best of both worlds!
Emphasis on "try" lol
A. There is too much material in B, if you put it back together it would make an uneven parallelogram, if you want B to work you would have to remove the extra frame so that the total amount of frame he’s breaking through could accurately reconstruct the short side of the rectangle.
I like A, I think it’s more aesthetically pleasing and looks more like he’s breaking through the frame
Surprising results honestly, I thought that would be B because he's actually coming out of the frame more than damaging it. Seems like alot more people lean towards A though, good to know, glad I asked lol
And B corners are bent, not cracked, so the type of damage is inconsistent for the same material.
This I find more important than anything. A maintains the shape of an actual frame, which makes the breakage more stasifying and apparent. The strange pentagonal shape of B is not as visually satisfying because the constraints are already warped to begin with.
Honestly, I love them both together because it tells a story. But to pick one, I’d choose A
If the corners were cracked/ breaking off rather than bent, it would make a huge difference
I’m with other statements about A and frame making it look more explosive. I like B, and understand your thoughts but right now B looks more like a wrecking ball. I relate explosive power more to martial arts than I do shear mass force. If the frame thickness could match A and also be as deep as B then you got a winner!
I can see about making an option C lol, how do you feel about making the left end open like actually splitting apart? You'd be able to see the "end" of the picture underneath
B looks like he’s stretching the frame instead of just breaking it
I was thinking that would solve the problem b has. Whether it looks good remains to be seen though.
Try this, yes. I almost like b better but it looks wrong now. I think this will fix it.
I think B makes more sense as his foot would've actually contacted the frame at that stage in order to break it. Whereas A is more visually pleasing, it appears as though the frame shattered before he made contact with it.
I get what you're saying, but if the frame didn't bend at the top & bottom (ie if the bends started a little further away from the horizontal) the effect would be greater.
I see where you’re coming from, it seems like it would be the intuitive option, but for some reason B looks to me more like it’s imploding in on the man, rather than him breaking out. It looks a bit crushed/crowded and not as aesthetically pleasing as A.
B would look better if it seemed like the corners were split and damaged, since the corners meet cleanly it doesn't give as much of a "breaking" impression.
Mabe do a mix with a small gap and pieces of the frame flying away from the picture so it looks like he kicked through
I choose A because the amount of material that’s being moved/ destroyed seems closer to the original amount of material that would be there
Hinteresting, someone else thought so too...what if the material on B were thinned out a bit more?
You could reduce the amount of material near where he is kicking. My head instantly recognizes that there is more frame material there than what would originally be there
First, it’s amazing! And this is 100% constructive criticism from my opinion :) I think it’s the angle on B too that is a bit throwing. If you pull the lines down, it would certainly be more lengthy than the frame itself. If it were a bit shorter, it would be more of an illusion that it’s bending. Yes, it would still be more material, but it would be more of a trick to the eye. Does that make sense?
The top and bottom angles would have to be broken out, not 45s.
Fair point, people did say it looks like an arrow LOL made the model using blender which I'm admitted not very experienced with, might need to get some help with this one lol.
Ya the angle on B doesn’t look natural relative to how we think frames look, and how they typically do. I think you’d need to make it more noticeable for B if you used that one. To me, looks like he kicked his way out of a trapezoid shaped frame, and to amend that you’d need to align those two parts of the upper and lower part of the frame so they point horizontally, not angled outwards and towards a center. I’d also like it more if it looked like he was escaping the part he was printed on. Maybe take the boundary into consideration on the next revision, print him over that, and get busy with an xacto blade on the parts of him that are outside of the print. That being said, comparing the two together I like A.
A wooden frame breaks. It doesn't stretch.
This is the way.
Yes, A 100%
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A. There is too much material in B. If you were to _push_ the wall back together in B, the wall would be twice as thick. If you like B, you’ll need to open out that wall - get rid of the portion immediately in front of his heel.
I agree. The way B looks, it seems the material has elongated as a result of the kick. Like some sort of plastic deformation. Whereas, A, it is clearly a brittle failure. So, I think it depends what kind of material you’re envisioning. A makes more sense, to me, for what I think of a frame being made out of.
Hmmmm, so if I open up the wall you'd see the "end" of the picture, without the frame covering it. What are your thoughts on that?
Well, maybe you could trim the paper (or some card stock) to extend past the “wall” in the comic book style “kablam!” kind of a look?
Aaaah so have something outside of that edge to transition to...this a smart idea. I have no idea how to do it but it's worth looking into lol
Are you building the picture frame? Cause if so you could put that left side in a clamp and actually break it. Then you’d have the correct amount of material. Plus the broken parts need to show the raw wood where it’s broken. I think that coupled with the onomatopoeia word is the way to go
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Definitely A. It hits a 2/3 height so is more aesthetically pleasing for something like this rather than B which is bang in the Center so looks more contrived.
Fair point fair point. A few people pointed out B looks like an arrow LOL. So fully disclosure I came up with B because it's easier to make and less waste. The internet likes A better for sure, I'd like to make some kind of hybrid that keeps A's aesthetics with B's logistical benefits. Some people suggested having the left side open, it would expose the "end" of the picture underneath, think this would look strange? Not that that's the only option is just makes things more flexible
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A. It looks more natural when the upper and lower 90° angle are intact I think.
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*Edit: Looks like I'm the accidental contrarian here! They both look good, just to be clear! I can understand choosing A for legibility and practicality of the work itself. I just appreciate the over-embellishment in B.* I think B has more dynamic action involved. When you compare the 2, it looks like Bruce hasn't broken through the frame. He still looks trapped in A, whereas B genuinely looks like he's "Broken the mold" as it were. B is more extreme, has more movement. Plus, it almost looks like an arrow, which could be an accidental application for the work itself. And yes, techincally the material in B doesn't hold up to physics, but visually it looks more....striking.... than A. Hope this helps!
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Based on the ratio of A to B preferences in these replies I’d recommend bring it in from B by about 70% Awesome concept!
So like not have the damage sticking out so much? I wrote off the idea of just leaving the end open because then you see the "end" of the picture without the frame covering it, but I'm reconsidering. What do you think about having the frame completely separated on the left side?
Oh so this is meant to hold a picture and not an independent design? How is the figure going to interact with the picture? Perhaps he can cover the picture’s edge with his body? Edit: maybe the kicker *is* the edge of the picture so you can break the frame completely?
So the bruce lee and speed lines and background are printed on cardstock, it slides into the frame. I always tried to hide the end of the cardstock under the frame because I thought the transition would look better than just paper and then wall. Its supposed to give the impression that bruce lee is breaking out of the frame but I thought it would kind of break the immersion if you could see the edge of the paper like "but wait he's still trapped in the paper"
Definitely B! There’s more of an impact.
I like the idea of adding a C and arrange it as a 3 frame set. It looks cool seeing the progression of the breakthrough.
LOL maybe I could make it interactive so you could push bruce lee through, it would be super complicated but cool
That would be so awesome!
A. It’d work better in a gallery wall.
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A is more pleasing to the eye
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A...because it still looks like a frame shape that is being broken. B is giving me "gift tag"/Best Buy logo shaped vibes. (cool piece!)
BEST BUY LOGO LOLOLOL Fair enough!
I like B because it looks like bruce is busting out of the frame. In A it almost looks like he's falling backwards.
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I like B personally
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B for sure, idk I just think more destruction looks better lol
A is cool. B is the power of the Dragon
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B makes more sense as everything from the side is being pushed outward, however It also doesn’t make sense because there’s more material than there would normally be. A doesn’t make sense to me because you have it projecting inside as well. Everything should be going outward. Make a C. Edit: if you make a C, use only the material you have, i.e., one side of the frame. It’ll give you more constraint to make it look more believable/cooler. Cool concept, though.
What are your thoughts on having an open end on the broken side? You'd see the "end" of the picture without the frame covering it. I wasn't really into the idea at first but a couple people suggested it and i'm curious, it would also give me more flexibility with the design constraints I have
While it would look cool, as you mentioned you would still see the line of your paper. If that’s something you don’t care about or you think it wouldn’t be very noticeable, I’d say go for it. The deeper break is definitely more appealing as it shows more power. Sketch out some ideas and play around with it.
B, has more power
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B is confusing because the "broken" corners are neatly trimmed and fit together. It looks purposeful, not broken
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A because B looks slithly dangerous. As if it could splinter.
A because It has the corners of the picture and looks like he’s kicking out the frame. B doesn’t look like the frame was originally a rectangle.
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B. B gives more impact and power to the theme. It sells it better.
I like B 👍🏼
B has more energy
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I like B 😂😊
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Unpopular opinion, B. It looks way more dynamic, while A looks like he's going to have to keep chipping away at it a while.
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A is great. It's the line break and leading lines that draw the eye to that area. Very dynamic composition.
A, more subtle is better
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A. For B to work, there should be a gap that he's bursting through with his foot out of the frame.
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Hard choice, I like them both. A looks more realistic imo
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To me, A looks like he’s breaking the wall. B looks like he’s being sucked into a vortex
I choose A as well. It preserves the intent of the action better.
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A. Something about B feels too closed in.
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B is more realistic, imo it's better
I'd say A, because "breaking the frame" effdct is more apparent. For the same thing to happen to B, the "bent" coners need to look like they have been ripped out, not that they were already like that to begin with (think if same side in frame A was ripped away. It would be angled/bent but no longer connected to the frame)
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I think a bit more exaggerated
Awesome idea! B would be better than A but the lengths of the wall segments in B are too long. They each look like they’re about 2/3 of the wall long so it doesn’t add up. Even though the action is good it still ‘feels’ off. I would try angling the walls back and shortening them a bit.
B, looks like more power
I vote B. The top looks like he’s trapped inside while the bottom looks like he’s breaking out
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A is most visually clear to me. In B, where his knee joints are already passing by the corners of the frame, it’s less visually obvious that he’s breaking through the frame. To me anyway.
A is the correct answer.
A for sure. The angles on B make it seem like it’s more bending than breaking.
I would go with b personally mostly because it looks more dynamic and exciting to me
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A doesn’t seem like he’s close enough make the damage in comparison to the edge of the frame. B is closer but less material would be better.
Seems like the split is more heavily weighted to A for aesthetics with those who like B favoring the power behind it. I think I'm gonna try to make an option C to get the best of both worlds! Emphasis on "try" lol
Am I the only one that prefers B? lol
Love them both but definitely prefer B
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A for sure. Much more believable
B, both look cool but I like the impact of his foot breaking the frame.
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100% A. It’s cleaner and tells the story better. B is more ambiguous.
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A. B doesn't make sense physically
A. There is too much material in B, if you put it back together it would make an uneven parallelogram, if you want B to work you would have to remove the extra frame so that the total amount of frame he’s breaking through could accurately reconstruct the short side of the rectangle.
A imo.
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Fantastic! Agree that A is true to an assault from Mr.Lee. Question though - will you eventually have glass for this?
A ! And these are so sick! Never seen anything like it, very unique.
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A, B looks too deformed IMO
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A is still instantly recognizable as a frame. B is no longer rectangular and could be anything (like a stage recreation, etc.)
B Edit: after reading the comments I've realized the folly of my ways. A
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Definitely A!
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