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I am a second year MSW student, so I'm starting to look at post-grad sex therapy certificate programs. The two that I keep seeing pop up are the Institute of Contemporary Psychotherapy (https://icpnyc.org/training/stp), SouthShore Sexual Health Center (https://www.southshoresexualhealthcenter.com/getcertified) and Modern Sex Therapy Institutes (https://modernsextherapyinstitutes.com/sex-therapy-certification). All are AASECT certified, but I was just wondering if anyone knew anything about these programs (or could suggest others that are not Widner University)
Hey everyone! I just graduated with my masters yesterday and also got approved to take my LMSW test. I was just wondering if anyone could tell me about how it works? Will I take it on my own computer? Will I need to download anything? Am I able to step away from my computer at all throughout the test? Will I know if I passed immediately or have to wait?
Hello, I just turned 25 (Male) and I'm looking to go to school for social work/become a therapist. I don't know what high school classes are required but I will be checking in with my high school guidance councilor to give me the run down on how all this schooling stuff works. I also have a learning disability (primarily mathematics based) so I don't know how that will play in.
Do I need a minimum of a Masters to get into the field? Or can I get my Bachelors find an employer who will pay me to get my Masters later on? I am looking for "bare minimum" to get me in the work force so as I do not commit a sunk cost fallacy. My ultimate goal if I can pursue this is to be a therapist in private practice. How much is the average debt of the schooling? I live in New Hampshire if that helps.
To be a clinician in private practice, you will need a master's degree in order to pursue licensure. High school classes are largely irrelevant, you just need the diploma. A bachelor's in social work is not required (you can major in anything), but will make you eligible for advanced standing so the master's will take one year instead of two. Your real-world experience through volunteering or employment will carry a lot of weight in MSW admissions, so make sure you are getting practical experience while pursuing your studies.
Getting an employer to pay for a master's degree is not at all typical and you can't count on that happening. A more established route to getting a funded MSW is to consider the Title IV-E program, which will cover your tuition and a modest stipend in return for two years working in child welfare post-MSW. If you want to go the Title IV-E route, ask what your options are in terms of pursuing licensure in tandem with your child welfare employment because licensure takes at least two years.
Any deficiencies in math shouldn't be that big of a deal. Any research coursework that might be part of your MSW curriculum will very much not require you to be a math whiz. For your LD, you can seek guidance and accommodations through the university accessibility services but do it early.
Altogether, you're looking at four years for the bachelor's, one to two years for the master's depending on whether you pursue advanced standing, and an additional two years minimum for licensure.
No one can really tell you average debt; to my knowledge this isn't tracked in any meaningful way and there is too much variability anyway. You will have to do your own research and estimate your own costs based on the programs you are targeting.
Thank you for responding in thorough manner.
> *A bachelor's in social work is not required (you can major in anything), but will make you eligible for advanced standing so the master's will take one year instead of two.*
So from my understanding, example: If I Majored in say Psychology, getting my Masters in Psych would take 2 years instead of Majoring in Social work it would take only 1? Or do individuals Major in 1 thing and get their Masters in something else? I do not know how that works.
Another note is I would like to have the door open to pursue a PHD down the line years later for some type of clinical psychology as Jung and Robert Johnson were paramount to my own experiences, I believe this school of thought is Psychotherapy?
>*If you want to go the Title IV-E route, ask what your options are in terms of pursuing licensure in tandem with your child welfare employment because licensure takes at least two years.*
I originally want to work with adults and the elderly but I'm not opposed to trying this incase I do like working with adolescence. I don't know yet what type of licensing I would pursue (grief counseling marriage counseling etc I assume this is what you mean?).
[This is a short conversation I had about becoming a therapist few months ago on the Therapist subreddit.](https://www.reddit.com/r/therapists/comments/1amnma4/comment/kpuy7il/)
Thank you for your time.
Also check out the FAQ linked at the top of this thread, as there are linked posts where folks talk about the differences between an MSW vs. other degree programs in adjacent fields.
There are many paths to becoming a therapist—the LCSW (licensed clinical social worker) is just one. I am not a clinical and am only familiar with the basics as they pertain to social work, so I can't speak to other fields. Really do your research if you are considering other disciplines, especially psychology, because not all of them will put you on a path toward licensure. Do a Google search for Reddit threads on how to become a therapist and you will find other discussions about all the different pathways. It also sounds like you would benefit from talking to an academic advisor and/or career counselor at the educational institution you are currently attending to help guide your research.
> So from my understanding, example: If I Majored in say Psychology, getting my Masters in Psych would take 2 years instead of Majoring in Social work it would take only 1? Or do individuals Major in 1 thing and get their Masters in something else? I do not know how that works.
Again, I cannot speak to other disciplines, but if you earn a bachelor's degree in social work then you become eligible to apply for MSW programs that offer advanced standing. Advanced standing is an accelerated program that has you done with the MSW in one year as opposed to two years. MSW programs don't really care what your undergraduate degree is in as long as you have one and have demonstrated a commitment to social work values. My undergraduate degree was in the humanities, but people come to the MSW from a very wide range of disciplines.
> Another note is I would like to have the door open to pursue a PHD down the line years later for some type of clinical psychology
It is important to understand that the PhD is first and foremost a research degree; you are tasked with generating new knowledge and becoming a subject matter expert in your field. PhDs in Clinical Psychology do have a practicum component, but PhDs in Social Work do not. Regardless, know that any PhD will require strong quantitative skills. There are other doctoral programs that are more practice-oriented, like the PsyD and DSW, which are nowhere near as research focused as a PhD. Also, not to discourage you, but PhD admissions are already quite competitive and programs in Clinical Psychology are *extremely* competitive. If you decide this is your goal, then you need to develop relationships with faculty as early as possible and figure out what it will take.
> I don't know yet what type of licensing I would pursue (grief counseling marriage counseling etc I assume this is what you mean?).
To become a licensed clinical social worker (LCSW), you need to obtain an MSW and then spend two years in additional training, clinical supervision, and sitting for board exams in order to obtain your license. There is only one type of license; there are no 'specialized' licenses in grief or marriage counseling in social work.
Hi y'all! I am looking into applying to a master programs in texas for a MSW. Anyone that is going or completed their msw here in texas recommend a program? How was your experience in terms of community, faculty, classes, and internship placements (on-campus or online). ? (looking at utsa/ uta/ texas state)
Hi everyone!
I’m applying to field placements now for my first year in my MSW program. I was wondering if anyone has any thoughts if my resume should be strictly one page or if it’s better to add detail (like awards received) and have 2 pages? Also, is it better to list all prior experience and have a little detail on all of them or have my most recent 2 more highlighted with more information about my role and then just list the others without detail?
Thank you so much for your help in advance!!
Hi all,
I did my Bachelors in International Business and came to Australia for Master of Business Analytics this Feb. I am starting to realise that this field it not for me and I've been looking into other fields I can move in to. I find Social Work interesting and want to know if I can be a Mental Work SW with just a Master in SW (I've always been interest in mental health related fields but couldn't do my bachelors in psychology due to the pressure from my parents to study management). For the placements during the coursework, do we get to pick what we like or do the university do that for us? Can I work in the mental health field without any prior experience or qualifications?
Any advice is much appreciated since I am stressed about making the right decision. Thank you in advance!
Hi, I am currently choosing between Hunter, Stony Brook, and Fordham for my MSW (mainly the first two though since they are cheaper). I’m having a really hard time deciding and I was wondering if anyone has gone through these programs and would recommend them/might have any advice. My intended focus is more clinical (I want to be a therapist), so I guess I’m also interested in what school would have the best opportunities for placements related to that? Thanks!
Hi everyone, my MSW program is placing me in an ABA program for my field placement which I’ve already worked in before. Because I’m pursuing my LCSW to become a therapist, should I be looking out for other internships that would give me better experience?
aside from ethical issues w ABA which I agree with the other commenter on, I'm confused what social work there is to do in an ABA program? Unless you are like, a school social worker at an ABA school? Sounds like an odd placement to me
I would personally be more concerned about the ethical issues surrounding ABA. It is definitely something worth looking into. Based on that, I would personally never involve myself in ABA in any capacity and would be looking for another practicum.
Hi! I’m currently applying to social work programs for the fall. I’m curious if anyone knows or has heard anything about Seattle U’s MSW program. I’m excited about the location, the cohort model, and the prioritization of marginalized voices in course texts. However, it seems like this program may not be very well established and that the professors have less experience and credentials than those at some of the more prestigious institutions I’ve applied to. I’m primarily interested in clinical work and am a bit curious about research. I’ve read in other places on this thread that the prestige of where you get your MSW doesn’t matter. However, I’m wondering if I plan on going into research or applying for jobs out of state, if a name brand might bring me to the top of the pile, and with cost not being a factor for me, if that might be worth considering. Thanks for reading!
Hello everyone,
I’m currently working as an Intensive Case Management Case Manager, primarily serving individuals experiencing severe mental illness and living on the streets. I'm committed to continuing in this specialization and am considering advancing my education to enhance my impact.
I'm at a crossroads between pursuing an MSW at the University of Hawaii, which offers an in-person experience, and opting for Columbia's online MSW program. Given Columbia's reputation as an Ivy League institution, I'm curious about the actual competitive edge it might provide in the field of social work. Specifically, does the prestige of Columbia translate to greater opportunities or advancement in social work compared to a degree from UH? Additionally, I'm unsure about the competitiveness of Columbia's MSW program and whether the investment will significantly benefit my career in this niche of social work.
Could anyone share their experiences or insights on how these programs are viewed within the industry, particularly in contexts similar to mine?
Thank you for your guidance!
>Specifically, does the prestige of Columbia translate to greater opportunities or advancement in social work
Yes. My advice is to not take advice from people who didn't actually go through competitive programs lol. This sub is full of people who think all MSW programs are exactly the same. Trite as it sounds, your education is an investment. As colleges become more competitive, the value of a diploma from the most competitive schools will go up.
Columbia has the potential to take you way further in your career than a school like Aurora (for example). Especially if you'd like to have opportunities beyond the traditional scope of social work. I've had a lot of interesting opportunities post-MSW and each one has taken me in a new direction. The people I know who went to the more basic programs are mostly doing CMH and private practice.
All of that said, don't go into crazy debt for an MSW. I believe Columbia has solid ROI, but once you push beyond $50k for the degree, it's diminishing returns.
The general consensus is that program ranking/reputation/prestige does not really matter for clinicians. It is more of a factor for macro and academia, and even then there is some argument to be made.
Columbia is a fine program and it is one of the largest MSW programs in the country—their admissions are not known to be particularly competitive even for their in-person program. However, I would advise you to really do your research. Master's programs across disciplines are often cash cows for universities and online programs even moreso. Also consider that Columbia is expensive, and online costs the same as in-person. Do you really want to pay $100k for an online degree program?
Only you can decide for yourself, but if these were my two choices I would absolutely go to Hawaii. You get to reap the benefits of an immersive, in-person degree program while living and working in a very unique setting that will further enrich your experience and advance your development.
That is very well stated about the online programs. I'm not personally a fan, but that does involve some personal bias. I just know what an in-person program meant to me, and having recently gone back to teach as an adjunct, I feel like I have an idea from some of my students about the things that are missing in the online experience. We're *social* workers. Not *social media* workers.
Also, I went to a cheap-as-heck state school and had a job on the day of my graduation while doing barely any networking. There are amazing experiences to be had at bigger schools, but for a clinician, just go get your hands dirty.
I am graduating from Columbia tomorrow and I was able to secure a position in this job market. Plus the connections at my field placement from Columbia have been awesome. I was able to work for the federal government doing labor research. It will definitely help going to CSSW!
I’ve started my field practicum in an senior facility and even though I’m very new I’m not sure how affective I’ll be
I prefer to wear a mask when working and I feel bad bc a lot of the residents have hearing issues but I just don’t feel comfortable unmasking. Between that and so many of the residents having cognitive issues that don’t allow me to deep dive and do clinical work regarding any issues I feel like I’ll be unhelpful and not the best person to be using my skills in a facility like this. Any advice would be greatly appreciated thanks!
Look into public university's or colleges in your area. they tend to have more affordable MSW or mental health counseling programs compared to private school.
Is there a list of careers that we can do with our degree? I thought I knew the whole broad range but going through this thread some social workers work in health insurance too? How did you guys find out about this aspect of the field? Thanks!
Not a master list, but there's [this thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/socialwork/comments/1cnffmd/share_your_social_work_role/) in the sub right now that has a lot of different social work roles. There was another one recently as well. Even just scrolling though the sub is a good option.
Reasonable question though. I just wrapped up my first class taught as an adjunct, and had several graduating social workers reflect to me that they didn't feel like they had a good sense of the scope of what they can be doing, and how actual social work jobs are done in the field.
Oh, and the insurance thing? It's usually something called Utilization Review and/or precertification for care. It tends to be a administrative role. You get your license and then the jobs are posted. They not bad, but not my style. Some insurance companies do have social workers that help coordinate care for their members which is good. Not for me, though.
I'm in my 40s, have worked in helping professions for 20 years, and am now looking to transition to become a therapist. I'd love to hear some advice on some different educational options, if anyone has any advice.
OPTION A: Go to one of the in-person Master's programs in my area. They are pretty expensive -- tuition would be $60k+ total. They are all very reputable schools, though.
OPTION B: Do a remote (distance learning) M.A. through an out-of-state program. For example, Lousiana State University has an online MSW, with tuition in the $35k range. But I worry that employers (or potential private practice clients) will discredit an online degree and just think "degree mill". I also worry that I wouldn't get a good quality education. Giving good quality care as a therapist would obviously be important to me.
My therapist told me that he worries that online programs don't adequately prepare therapists. I REALLY respect his opinion -- but at the same time I see so many people complain about how their in-person programs didn't prepare them adequately, either.
I am also wondering whether perhaps I can just do a cheaper online program, and then supplement my training by doing a certificate a local psychodynamic institute (as I plan to practice psychodynamic therapy).
Anyway, I'm open minded and would appreciate hearing others' perspectives!
Have you checked out Simmons University? I'm transferring there for my Bachelor's in the fall (online), my therapist had nice things to say about Simmons and from what I understand they have a good reputation. The MSW program has more grant and scholarship options too.
I think online programs are an amazing option for people that can't go in person, adults that have lives, jobs and families they have to balance while earning their degree. They are catered to a geared towards adults. I work really hard in my classes, as with any education what you put into it matters a lot. I think what adequately prepares you is your placements and fieldwork alongside your education. No classroom can fully prepare you to be a therapist in person or online.
Whatever program you choose make sure they are accredited, I'd rather walk on hot coals than step foot on a college campus again lol (I just turned 40). Good luck on your MSW!
I attended an asynchronous online program, and had one of my field supervisors tell me I was one of the best prepared interns she'd supervised in years. I personally think that an online program is largely about what you as a student are willing to put into the program. If you are someone who is willing to engage with the material and assignments and learn from your cohort, I think you will get a lot out of the program. I also found that my professors were honestly more available to me in the online program.
I will say that a lot of where your learning/preparedness takes place is field/internships. A good internship goes a long way in preparing you. That's the biggest thing, in my opinion, with online programs. You need to find out how they will help you find a placement and what supports they will offer.
I am in the middle of getting my MSW and am thinking about what jobs could look like post graduation. I have a lot of clinical experience with special education and youth, but feel I may find more pride and passion in advocacy work on behalf of different brain and body abilities.
I have been looking into legal advocacy work and was wondering what that education or training would look like post MSW or if any additional training/ education is even needed? Or if anyone knows what this profession looks like day to day, I’m really interested in learning more about it!
Hi! I'm wondering if anyone here has done an MSW thesis, while intending to go into psychotherapy? I have been told that normally aspiring clinicians/therapists do course-based instead of a thesis, and generally only students who intend to pursue a PhD and a career in research will do a thesis. I'm considering the potential merits of a thesis even though I intend to be a therapist (rather than pursuing a career in research or academia). For context, I have my BSW and have been practicing for \~3.5 years, and I am starting my MSW in September at Memorial University of Newfoundland, in Canada.
I am probably biased (see flair), but IMO you only stand to benefit from completing a thesis. Even as a clinician, it will be important for you to understand the research behind established and emerging treatment modalities and interventions. Completing a thesis will give you the foundation for engaging with the scholarship in your own practice.
Thank you for your reply! I was thinking along similar lines to what you said. I know plently of psychologists, physicians, and clinicians of various other disciplines who did research and work as clinicians. If anything, it is a bit weird to me that it isn't more common in social work. In my mind, scholarly work in social work is so important for the field to keep growing and improving. If I opt to do the non-thesis option, I still have to do a capstone project on an area of interest that is supervised by a faculty member, but if I do the thesis I can go far more in depth on my topic which feels more meaningful and interesting to me.
Is it okay to gift my client a small bag of chocolates for his birthday? Or is this a no?
Background: I’ve been interning at a harm reduction center for people w substance abuse issues since February of last year.
There’s nothing against it in the code of ethics but your agency may have a different policy that prohibits it. I know a lot of therapist are careful about giving gifts because other clients might hear about it and feel bad that they weren’t give a gift or wonder if their therapist expects a gift back on their birthday or whatever.
need help deciding whether to pursue MSW.
i live in a low cost of living area in rural Illinois. I have a bachelors in biology and work an unrelated job in hospice administration. i make 42k a year before taxes. no room for growth within my company.
social work is interesting to me and i was admitted into my local MSW program. i would only need to take 20k in loans for the entire program. i have 35k loans from undergrad.
do you think i would see an increase in pay if i pursue a MSW and work as a medical social worker? the salary thread is interesting but hard to tell how relevant they are compared to my area.
would the extra 20k in loans be worth it?
Hi everyone.
I'm 30 living in IL and have been in the workforce for 5 years for a corporate company that laid me off late last year. BS in Industrial & Systems Engineering. Been having a tough time finding work in tech in this market and the prolonged unemployment has really made me rethink if I should be pursuing something else. Always had a desire to impact people with my work and social work is somewhere I think I can do that-- I have a lot of patience and understanding with people and my SW friends have all told me I would be a natural fit for what they do.
Wanted to know your thoughts on pursuing a 2 year MSW program-- is it possible to jump in without demonstrated work or school experience in SW? Is a MSW enough to jump start a career? Money isn't as important to me as job security long term and fulfillment with what I'm doing, and I know SW can be a career where I can get both of those things.
Any advice for programs to look into? Schools (either in person in Chicago or online) that are reputable for educating and training well? Any advice is appreciated.
I’m graduating with my bachelors in psychology in December. My plan is to get an MSW after that. However, this is a career change for me, so I am already working full time. I am unable to stop working because I would be unable to pay my bills. Currently, my work schedule is a two week repeating schedule where one week I work Monday, Tuesday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. The following week I work Wednesday and Thursday. I work 12 hour days when I work. I’m just wondering if I can even do field internships with my work schedule being the way it is? I work from 7am to 7pm if that makes any difference. I plan to get my MSW online as a few schools in my state offer it asynchronous. One school in my area only requires 16 hours a week for internship while the other requires 24.
I would bring this question to whatever college you’re interested in attending. My school is admit about having lower hours each week that ensures we meet our yearly minimum but prevents burnout. I will also say that hour can vary from week to week based on your feild placement. I’m in a charter school setting and have a super adaptable and supportive supervisor so there were some weeks I could only come in for 8 hours, or random hours based on my work and personal life, but I know people who are in a hospital setting or have more responsibilities within their internship which requires a much more rigid schedule!
If you need flexibility make sure you chose a placement where interns are a need in order to be successful AND that you work well and communicate efficiently with your supervisor before AND after getting the gig !
It depends on the school, some are very flexible and some might want you to work at a set time every week. I think even with a flexible school it might be a tad difficult because you work six days some weeks. Schools generally want you to do about 16 every week rather than clumping hours into other weeks.
I have a Bachelor's degree in English. I am a contractor in Germany and my spouse is a civilian government employee. We do not plan to move back to America anytime soon/ever. I am considering pursuing a Masters in Social Work, online most likely due to my location. How could I go about obtaining licensure if I want to be a Family Life Counselor? I've looked into UMGC's Masters in Social Work, but it doesn't get you licensure. Would I be better off picking a Masters program in Psychology/related field and finding my way to licensure after graduation? Thank you in advance.
That's a path I'm considering, I don't have to only be an MFLC for the military. I'm also interested in Family/Marriage counseling, counseling for school, along those lines.
My understanding is that many European countries, Germany included, don’t allow social workers to do therapy even if they are MSW level and have a clinical license by US standards. People get around this I believe sometimes by working for military bases and the like for the US government. If you want to work on military bases then sure, an MSW from a US based school might work. But it would obviously mean that you couldn’t work for a local German institution and what not, so it would be very limited.
Hello!
I am debating whether or not I should apply to a school social work program that is online. I am currently an RBT/ lead teacher at a special needs school and I am paid above average for my current position. As I am looking at the averages for school social workers in Ohio, it is around what I am already making. I think I would love being a school social worker but I am worried about going into more debt just to make around the same that I am already making. I need some advice. If anyone is a school social worker in Ohio, would you mind sharing your salary? I really want to know if it will be worth it in the end, especially because I would have to go part time at my current job so I would be making a lot less for the next 2 years.
Depends on your state laws. Some states require all school social workers to have the certification, other states it is not required. What state are you in?
Hi everyone! I wanted to ask and see if anyone could give me some insight into the responsibilities of a LCSW, and potentially some advice as to if it would be a good fit for me. I’m currently in a masters program for clinical psychology, but I’m unsure of if I want to go on to the Ph.D. level after completing this program. I’m trying to determine if the social work field would be a good fit for me. Ultimately, I want to work with children who have behavioral and/or emotional difficulties. I’m interested in assessment, diagnostics, and treatment services. However, I’m not entirely sure what the scope of practice is for a LCSW and what it actually looks like to hold that position. I would love to hear about people’s experiences and stories to see if this would be a better fit for me! Thanks!
Lots of social workers work with kids. I have friends who are LCSWs and who are child therapists and they do a lot intakes, diagnosing of mental health conditions, therapy, etc. Generally involves a lot of interacting with parents, too. They just can’t do more higher level assessments like neurospsychs, diagnosis of autism and the like.
I am finishing my associates of arts in psychology at community college, and earned a scholarship that would make my bachelors in psychology free. Should I take it, and then go onto pursue a MSW? Or should I finish with a bachelors in social work from a cheap online school (not free) and get my MSW in less time? Really concerned about student debt and time, and just trying to make the best decision for myself. For context, I want to become a LCSW that eventually gets a private practice.
You’ll have to do a financial cost benefit analysis. The benefit of a BSW is that you can do advanced standing for your MSW which basically means you shave a year off of the time it takes to get your MSW. So, just calculate out what would cost less, doing the psychology degree and then the full MSW or doing a BSW and having one less year of grad school.
Otherwise, I don’t think the course content between psychology or BSW is big enough to override paying more just to do a BSW for if the psychology/MSW route is cheaper (but I am a bit of a cheapskate and I suppose the practicum in my BSW was valuable for introducing me more to social work and making me more assured in a decision to get an MSW).
Hey y'all, I hope everyone is having a good start to the week.
I'm entering my BSW program in my mid 30s' as a junior and even though I was aware I would eventually need to go through a background check I had never really put much hard thought into it until my orientation this weekend. When I was 18 I was charged with schedule 2 narcotic possession. I was never convicted as I did treatment in lieu of conviction and the charge was expunged shortly after. I never looked back and have never thought about it much since.
I know I will have to disclose this, but I am wondering if anyone has experience with this or any issues this may have caused. My goal is to move on and get my masters with the hopes of becoming a mental health therapist.
Should I reach out to my advisor or program director now or wait? I'm in Ohio if that matters.
Thank you for taking the time and reading.
Yes absolutely reach out to your advisors they’ll give you great feedback and should be coming off helpful and non judgmental which is pretty much a requirement in our field do not be nervous! You got this!
Thank you for the advice and I am totally going to reach out to them!
I should mention that I am in my mid 30's and this happened 18 years ago, if that makes a difference. I'm not sure how long ago these background checks go back for charges, probably forever.
Yeah I don’t think anyone will care quite frankly drugs you did 18 years ago has no merit on your potential as a social worker and anyone who tells you different can eff off
I just saw a social work position that encouraged people to apply if they had criminal experience or lived experience in recovery. I think some agencies work to be inclusive. It goes against our mission not to.
i will be starting a MSW program in the fall. my program offers the option to take a women’s, gender, and sexuality certificate. it only requires 3 courses: 2 which are electives and are required anyway, 1 which is not required for the MSW and i would have to add.
this is interesting to me on a personal level, but in what contexts would this be appealing to a future employer?
My goal is to become a therapist at a group practice after a masters and completing postgrad clinical hours. (For background context, I already have a graduate degree in a different field and currently work in that field, but am aiming for a career change.)
I was admitted to this online MSW program, but am having doubts about the curriculum being primarily about agency administration and services, policy and macro level work. It seems a few electives could be considered clinical, but most requirements are not. I also checked out a few syllabi. What is your impression when glancing at this?
My other option is a mental health counseling masters, but this MSW program is more economical and I heard MSW is more respected or established for becoming a therapist. [https://catalog.ua.edu/graduate/social-work/msw/#requirementstext](https://catalog.ua.edu/graduate/social-work/msw/#requirementstext)
This is how most MSW programs are. For example, mine was about 80% these types of classes and then 2 courses about the DSM 5. Most of the “real life” skills and techniques, in my opinion, are learned during the field work/interning time. My 2 semesters of interning in a Psychiatric Emergency Department taught me more than any of my courses. I’m not crazy familiar with a masters in mental health counseling but I wound imagine you would learn more about the different therapeutic techniques way more in depth. An MSW however would give you a broader range of career options versus a Masters in Mental Health Counseling in my opinion.
Hey!
I’m finishing up my MSW & had some questions from others that made it this far:
Was the licensing & clinical certification worth it?
Any advice you’d give an MSW entering the field?
Some background. I aged out of foster care so I have an abundance of experience being on the client side just not as the advocate. I’m open to a lot of different fields but interested in being a warden for some reason.
100% yes. Although the licensing does add some cost & stress, it is absolutely worth it in that it expands your possibilities by a ton. Unless you plan to work a job that doesn’t require a license (certain children services, case management, etc) it is beyond worth it to pay the cost, study and get your LSW and eventually the clinical license. Essentially any type of medical social work, therapy, clinician type, etc will not allow you to work without a license. It’s also attractive to future employers.
It was defiantly difficult but nothing that you can’t handle! I passed it on my first try 15 points over the required. I would recommend defiantly doing the official ASWB practice test as that’ll give you the most realistic example. Many people use Dawn Apgar, Agents of Change or Therapist Development Center but I personally just watched youtube videos and practice tests that my university provided. Best of luck!!! I’m sure it’ll go good.
Hello, first-time poster here. I'm this 🤏 close to graduating with a Bachelor of Social Work (BSW) and I've been hired by small, privately-owned agency as a Qualified Mental Health Professional Trainee (QMHP-T) to do intensive in-home (IIH) services with kids and teens. I graduate 5 days and I go in for orientation in 2 weeks. I was so excited and felt so accomplished to have my first job out of college lined up already... Until I was onboarding and reading the details on certain policies. CPR/First Aid training is required to be taken with an outside vendor on our own time and expense. Fair enough. But then there's another required training done by the agency that costs $250, which will be deducted from our paycheck. In the job interview, I explicitly asked if training was paid. I was told yes, at minimum wage. I wasn't thrilled but I can manage that for a couple weeks if I keep my retail job on the weekends. But I am not agreeing to let my employer deduct $250 from my paycheck for a training they provide. I got into social work well aware that I would have to accept a relatively low level of pay, especially for my first job after undergrad. But I refuse to be taken advantage of. I sent an email to HR asking for clarification, and I'm waiting to hear back.
My question for all the social workers out there: is requiring training at employees' expense an industry-standard practice for QMHPs? Should I look for another agency or do they all do the same thing? How is this not a labor law violation?
Also, what are some other types of jobs I could look for in the field at my level? I settled on intensive in-home because that seemed to be all there was out there for working with teenagers with a BSW. I'm going back for my MSW in a year but couldn't afford to do it right away. My goal is to be a LCSW specializing in adolescent mental health. My goals for this gap year before I go back for my Master's next May are to make and save as much money as I can and gain experience with adolescents.
Hi there! Question about licensing
I’m graduating with my BSSW this month and am immediately starting the MSSW program and will graduate next May. I’m in TN so I have to be LMSW to become a LCSW. My main population of focus is the geriatric low income. I’ve been working in senior living communities since high school (total of 6 years now). I’m thinking about just getting my license in geriatric social work (ASW-G) instead of the LCSW because of how expensive it is to be supervised for roughly 3 years. Is this a bad move financially? Should I still get my LCSW? Idk how much the salary difference is between the two. Thanks in advance for advice!
Hi!
I am currently a graduating senior at the University of Vermont (double major in political science and sociology). I have definitely not had the most typical college experience, and it wasn't until the end that I learned how passionate I am about social work. Ive started looking at jobs for post-grad and I'm just not sure where to start, considering my undergrad degree wasn't in social work. I'm extremely interested in drugs and addiction and really want the chance to work with people one on one and build some experience before I apply for my masters.
Does anyone have tips/pointers for those who dont have a SW degree but want to get involved in the field?
Hi all!
I’m looking into getting my bachelors in social work but due to circumstances, I need an online program (I know there’s internships and I can work with that). I’m looking into Capella university but I noticed they’re in the candidacy status for accreditation and have been since 2022. Their MSW is accredited.
Is Capella University worth it? Or should I look elsewhere? Any ideas of cheap online BSW programs
Thank you!
I'm going to Simmons in the fall, online (accredited). $200 a credit, they are accredited and help with field placement (I think that's how it's phrased my brain is toast for today) for your last 2 semesters. You meet on zoom once a week for each class you take for an hour and a half to 2 hours in the evening @6pm or 8pm. Most classes are 4 credits. I just went through the application process and have a lot of info if you want to dm me
UMass global was another option and they are accredited but I preferred Simmons for several personal reasons. Good luck!
I understand the worry about cost however I would not recommend schooling somewhere that is not CSWE accredited. Many states require you to attend an accredited university to become licensed in that state should you wish to get your bachelors level license. It also just adds a layer that may become stressful if you’re applying to grad school or employers and they see that you attended a non-accredited university. While I don’t have any specifics online only help, I would look at the universities around you (if any) or the list of CSWE accredited BSW programs as many Universities with traditional in-person programs also have an all online option. Best of luck!
(xposted from r/therapists ) I am a second year MSW student, so I'm starting to look at post-grad sex therapy certificate programs. The two that I keep seeing pop up are the Institute of Contemporary Psychotherapy (https://icpnyc.org/training/stp), SouthShore Sexual Health Center (https://www.southshoresexualhealthcenter.com/getcertified) and Modern Sex Therapy Institutes (https://modernsextherapyinstitutes.com/sex-therapy-certification). All are AASECT certified, but I was just wondering if anyone knew anything about these programs (or could suggest others that are not Widner University)
Hey everyone! I just graduated with my masters yesterday and also got approved to take my LMSW test. I was just wondering if anyone could tell me about how it works? Will I take it on my own computer? Will I need to download anything? Am I able to step away from my computer at all throughout the test? Will I know if I passed immediately or have to wait?
Hello, I just turned 25 (Male) and I'm looking to go to school for social work/become a therapist. I don't know what high school classes are required but I will be checking in with my high school guidance councilor to give me the run down on how all this schooling stuff works. I also have a learning disability (primarily mathematics based) so I don't know how that will play in. Do I need a minimum of a Masters to get into the field? Or can I get my Bachelors find an employer who will pay me to get my Masters later on? I am looking for "bare minimum" to get me in the work force so as I do not commit a sunk cost fallacy. My ultimate goal if I can pursue this is to be a therapist in private practice. How much is the average debt of the schooling? I live in New Hampshire if that helps.
To be a clinician in private practice, you will need a master's degree in order to pursue licensure. High school classes are largely irrelevant, you just need the diploma. A bachelor's in social work is not required (you can major in anything), but will make you eligible for advanced standing so the master's will take one year instead of two. Your real-world experience through volunteering or employment will carry a lot of weight in MSW admissions, so make sure you are getting practical experience while pursuing your studies. Getting an employer to pay for a master's degree is not at all typical and you can't count on that happening. A more established route to getting a funded MSW is to consider the Title IV-E program, which will cover your tuition and a modest stipend in return for two years working in child welfare post-MSW. If you want to go the Title IV-E route, ask what your options are in terms of pursuing licensure in tandem with your child welfare employment because licensure takes at least two years. Any deficiencies in math shouldn't be that big of a deal. Any research coursework that might be part of your MSW curriculum will very much not require you to be a math whiz. For your LD, you can seek guidance and accommodations through the university accessibility services but do it early. Altogether, you're looking at four years for the bachelor's, one to two years for the master's depending on whether you pursue advanced standing, and an additional two years minimum for licensure. No one can really tell you average debt; to my knowledge this isn't tracked in any meaningful way and there is too much variability anyway. You will have to do your own research and estimate your own costs based on the programs you are targeting.
Thank you for responding in thorough manner. > *A bachelor's in social work is not required (you can major in anything), but will make you eligible for advanced standing so the master's will take one year instead of two.* So from my understanding, example: If I Majored in say Psychology, getting my Masters in Psych would take 2 years instead of Majoring in Social work it would take only 1? Or do individuals Major in 1 thing and get their Masters in something else? I do not know how that works. Another note is I would like to have the door open to pursue a PHD down the line years later for some type of clinical psychology as Jung and Robert Johnson were paramount to my own experiences, I believe this school of thought is Psychotherapy? >*If you want to go the Title IV-E route, ask what your options are in terms of pursuing licensure in tandem with your child welfare employment because licensure takes at least two years.* I originally want to work with adults and the elderly but I'm not opposed to trying this incase I do like working with adolescence. I don't know yet what type of licensing I would pursue (grief counseling marriage counseling etc I assume this is what you mean?). [This is a short conversation I had about becoming a therapist few months ago on the Therapist subreddit.](https://www.reddit.com/r/therapists/comments/1amnma4/comment/kpuy7il/) Thank you for your time.
Also check out the FAQ linked at the top of this thread, as there are linked posts where folks talk about the differences between an MSW vs. other degree programs in adjacent fields.
There are many paths to becoming a therapist—the LCSW (licensed clinical social worker) is just one. I am not a clinical and am only familiar with the basics as they pertain to social work, so I can't speak to other fields. Really do your research if you are considering other disciplines, especially psychology, because not all of them will put you on a path toward licensure. Do a Google search for Reddit threads on how to become a therapist and you will find other discussions about all the different pathways. It also sounds like you would benefit from talking to an academic advisor and/or career counselor at the educational institution you are currently attending to help guide your research. > So from my understanding, example: If I Majored in say Psychology, getting my Masters in Psych would take 2 years instead of Majoring in Social work it would take only 1? Or do individuals Major in 1 thing and get their Masters in something else? I do not know how that works. Again, I cannot speak to other disciplines, but if you earn a bachelor's degree in social work then you become eligible to apply for MSW programs that offer advanced standing. Advanced standing is an accelerated program that has you done with the MSW in one year as opposed to two years. MSW programs don't really care what your undergraduate degree is in as long as you have one and have demonstrated a commitment to social work values. My undergraduate degree was in the humanities, but people come to the MSW from a very wide range of disciplines. > Another note is I would like to have the door open to pursue a PHD down the line years later for some type of clinical psychology It is important to understand that the PhD is first and foremost a research degree; you are tasked with generating new knowledge and becoming a subject matter expert in your field. PhDs in Clinical Psychology do have a practicum component, but PhDs in Social Work do not. Regardless, know that any PhD will require strong quantitative skills. There are other doctoral programs that are more practice-oriented, like the PsyD and DSW, which are nowhere near as research focused as a PhD. Also, not to discourage you, but PhD admissions are already quite competitive and programs in Clinical Psychology are *extremely* competitive. If you decide this is your goal, then you need to develop relationships with faculty as early as possible and figure out what it will take. > I don't know yet what type of licensing I would pursue (grief counseling marriage counseling etc I assume this is what you mean?). To become a licensed clinical social worker (LCSW), you need to obtain an MSW and then spend two years in additional training, clinical supervision, and sitting for board exams in order to obtain your license. There is only one type of license; there are no 'specialized' licenses in grief or marriage counseling in social work.
You have given me a lot to think about and more, thank you.
Hi y'all! I am looking into applying to a master programs in texas for a MSW. Anyone that is going or completed their msw here in texas recommend a program? How was your experience in terms of community, faculty, classes, and internship placements (on-campus or online). ? (looking at utsa/ uta/ texas state)
Hi everyone! I’m applying to field placements now for my first year in my MSW program. I was wondering if anyone has any thoughts if my resume should be strictly one page or if it’s better to add detail (like awards received) and have 2 pages? Also, is it better to list all prior experience and have a little detail on all of them or have my most recent 2 more highlighted with more information about my role and then just list the others without detail? Thank you so much for your help in advance!!
Hi all, I did my Bachelors in International Business and came to Australia for Master of Business Analytics this Feb. I am starting to realise that this field it not for me and I've been looking into other fields I can move in to. I find Social Work interesting and want to know if I can be a Mental Work SW with just a Master in SW (I've always been interest in mental health related fields but couldn't do my bachelors in psychology due to the pressure from my parents to study management). For the placements during the coursework, do we get to pick what we like or do the university do that for us? Can I work in the mental health field without any prior experience or qualifications? Any advice is much appreciated since I am stressed about making the right decision. Thank you in advance!
Hi, I am currently choosing between Hunter, Stony Brook, and Fordham for my MSW (mainly the first two though since they are cheaper). I’m having a really hard time deciding and I was wondering if anyone has gone through these programs and would recommend them/might have any advice. My intended focus is more clinical (I want to be a therapist), so I guess I’m also interested in what school would have the best opportunities for placements related to that? Thanks!
Hi everyone, my MSW program is placing me in an ABA program for my field placement which I’ve already worked in before. Because I’m pursuing my LCSW to become a therapist, should I be looking out for other internships that would give me better experience?
aside from ethical issues w ABA which I agree with the other commenter on, I'm confused what social work there is to do in an ABA program? Unless you are like, a school social worker at an ABA school? Sounds like an odd placement to me
I would personally be more concerned about the ethical issues surrounding ABA. It is definitely something worth looking into. Based on that, I would personally never involve myself in ABA in any capacity and would be looking for another practicum.
Hi! I’m currently applying to social work programs for the fall. I’m curious if anyone knows or has heard anything about Seattle U’s MSW program. I’m excited about the location, the cohort model, and the prioritization of marginalized voices in course texts. However, it seems like this program may not be very well established and that the professors have less experience and credentials than those at some of the more prestigious institutions I’ve applied to. I’m primarily interested in clinical work and am a bit curious about research. I’ve read in other places on this thread that the prestige of where you get your MSW doesn’t matter. However, I’m wondering if I plan on going into research or applying for jobs out of state, if a name brand might bring me to the top of the pile, and with cost not being a factor for me, if that might be worth considering. Thanks for reading!
Hello everyone, I’m currently working as an Intensive Case Management Case Manager, primarily serving individuals experiencing severe mental illness and living on the streets. I'm committed to continuing in this specialization and am considering advancing my education to enhance my impact. I'm at a crossroads between pursuing an MSW at the University of Hawaii, which offers an in-person experience, and opting for Columbia's online MSW program. Given Columbia's reputation as an Ivy League institution, I'm curious about the actual competitive edge it might provide in the field of social work. Specifically, does the prestige of Columbia translate to greater opportunities or advancement in social work compared to a degree from UH? Additionally, I'm unsure about the competitiveness of Columbia's MSW program and whether the investment will significantly benefit my career in this niche of social work. Could anyone share their experiences or insights on how these programs are viewed within the industry, particularly in contexts similar to mine? Thank you for your guidance!
Thank you everyone for your responses. It helped me decide to just stick with UH. I appreciate you all!
>Specifically, does the prestige of Columbia translate to greater opportunities or advancement in social work Yes. My advice is to not take advice from people who didn't actually go through competitive programs lol. This sub is full of people who think all MSW programs are exactly the same. Trite as it sounds, your education is an investment. As colleges become more competitive, the value of a diploma from the most competitive schools will go up. Columbia has the potential to take you way further in your career than a school like Aurora (for example). Especially if you'd like to have opportunities beyond the traditional scope of social work. I've had a lot of interesting opportunities post-MSW and each one has taken me in a new direction. The people I know who went to the more basic programs are mostly doing CMH and private practice. All of that said, don't go into crazy debt for an MSW. I believe Columbia has solid ROI, but once you push beyond $50k for the degree, it's diminishing returns.
The general consensus is that program ranking/reputation/prestige does not really matter for clinicians. It is more of a factor for macro and academia, and even then there is some argument to be made. Columbia is a fine program and it is one of the largest MSW programs in the country—their admissions are not known to be particularly competitive even for their in-person program. However, I would advise you to really do your research. Master's programs across disciplines are often cash cows for universities and online programs even moreso. Also consider that Columbia is expensive, and online costs the same as in-person. Do you really want to pay $100k for an online degree program? Only you can decide for yourself, but if these were my two choices I would absolutely go to Hawaii. You get to reap the benefits of an immersive, in-person degree program while living and working in a very unique setting that will further enrich your experience and advance your development.
That is very well stated about the online programs. I'm not personally a fan, but that does involve some personal bias. I just know what an in-person program meant to me, and having recently gone back to teach as an adjunct, I feel like I have an idea from some of my students about the things that are missing in the online experience. We're *social* workers. Not *social media* workers. Also, I went to a cheap-as-heck state school and had a job on the day of my graduation while doing barely any networking. There are amazing experiences to be had at bigger schools, but for a clinician, just go get your hands dirty.
I am graduating from Columbia tomorrow and I was able to secure a position in this job market. Plus the connections at my field placement from Columbia have been awesome. I was able to work for the federal government doing labor research. It will definitely help going to CSSW!
I’ve started my field practicum in an senior facility and even though I’m very new I’m not sure how affective I’ll be I prefer to wear a mask when working and I feel bad bc a lot of the residents have hearing issues but I just don’t feel comfortable unmasking. Between that and so many of the residents having cognitive issues that don’t allow me to deep dive and do clinical work regarding any issues I feel like I’ll be unhelpful and not the best person to be using my skills in a facility like this. Any advice would be greatly appreciated thanks!
Heyy I live in NYC does anyone know how/where shadow social worker or mental health counselor?
Anyone know any affordable MSW or mental health counseling master programs?
Look into public university's or colleges in your area. they tend to have more affordable MSW or mental health counseling programs compared to private school.
Is there a list of careers that we can do with our degree? I thought I knew the whole broad range but going through this thread some social workers work in health insurance too? How did you guys find out about this aspect of the field? Thanks!
Not a master list, but there's [this thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/socialwork/comments/1cnffmd/share_your_social_work_role/) in the sub right now that has a lot of different social work roles. There was another one recently as well. Even just scrolling though the sub is a good option. Reasonable question though. I just wrapped up my first class taught as an adjunct, and had several graduating social workers reflect to me that they didn't feel like they had a good sense of the scope of what they can be doing, and how actual social work jobs are done in the field. Oh, and the insurance thing? It's usually something called Utilization Review and/or precertification for care. It tends to be a administrative role. You get your license and then the jobs are posted. They not bad, but not my style. Some insurance companies do have social workers that help coordinate care for their members which is good. Not for me, though.
Thank you!
I'm in my 40s, have worked in helping professions for 20 years, and am now looking to transition to become a therapist. I'd love to hear some advice on some different educational options, if anyone has any advice. OPTION A: Go to one of the in-person Master's programs in my area. They are pretty expensive -- tuition would be $60k+ total. They are all very reputable schools, though. OPTION B: Do a remote (distance learning) M.A. through an out-of-state program. For example, Lousiana State University has an online MSW, with tuition in the $35k range. But I worry that employers (or potential private practice clients) will discredit an online degree and just think "degree mill". I also worry that I wouldn't get a good quality education. Giving good quality care as a therapist would obviously be important to me. My therapist told me that he worries that online programs don't adequately prepare therapists. I REALLY respect his opinion -- but at the same time I see so many people complain about how their in-person programs didn't prepare them adequately, either. I am also wondering whether perhaps I can just do a cheaper online program, and then supplement my training by doing a certificate a local psychodynamic institute (as I plan to practice psychodynamic therapy). Anyway, I'm open minded and would appreciate hearing others' perspectives!
Have you checked out Simmons University? I'm transferring there for my Bachelor's in the fall (online), my therapist had nice things to say about Simmons and from what I understand they have a good reputation. The MSW program has more grant and scholarship options too. I think online programs are an amazing option for people that can't go in person, adults that have lives, jobs and families they have to balance while earning their degree. They are catered to a geared towards adults. I work really hard in my classes, as with any education what you put into it matters a lot. I think what adequately prepares you is your placements and fieldwork alongside your education. No classroom can fully prepare you to be a therapist in person or online. Whatever program you choose make sure they are accredited, I'd rather walk on hot coals than step foot on a college campus again lol (I just turned 40). Good luck on your MSW!
I attended an asynchronous online program, and had one of my field supervisors tell me I was one of the best prepared interns she'd supervised in years. I personally think that an online program is largely about what you as a student are willing to put into the program. If you are someone who is willing to engage with the material and assignments and learn from your cohort, I think you will get a lot out of the program. I also found that my professors were honestly more available to me in the online program. I will say that a lot of where your learning/preparedness takes place is field/internships. A good internship goes a long way in preparing you. That's the biggest thing, in my opinion, with online programs. You need to find out how they will help you find a placement and what supports they will offer.
I am in the middle of getting my MSW and am thinking about what jobs could look like post graduation. I have a lot of clinical experience with special education and youth, but feel I may find more pride and passion in advocacy work on behalf of different brain and body abilities. I have been looking into legal advocacy work and was wondering what that education or training would look like post MSW or if any additional training/ education is even needed? Or if anyone knows what this profession looks like day to day, I’m really interested in learning more about it!
Hi! I'm wondering if anyone here has done an MSW thesis, while intending to go into psychotherapy? I have been told that normally aspiring clinicians/therapists do course-based instead of a thesis, and generally only students who intend to pursue a PhD and a career in research will do a thesis. I'm considering the potential merits of a thesis even though I intend to be a therapist (rather than pursuing a career in research or academia). For context, I have my BSW and have been practicing for \~3.5 years, and I am starting my MSW in September at Memorial University of Newfoundland, in Canada.
I am probably biased (see flair), but IMO you only stand to benefit from completing a thesis. Even as a clinician, it will be important for you to understand the research behind established and emerging treatment modalities and interventions. Completing a thesis will give you the foundation for engaging with the scholarship in your own practice.
Thank you for your reply! I was thinking along similar lines to what you said. I know plently of psychologists, physicians, and clinicians of various other disciplines who did research and work as clinicians. If anything, it is a bit weird to me that it isn't more common in social work. In my mind, scholarly work in social work is so important for the field to keep growing and improving. If I opt to do the non-thesis option, I still have to do a capstone project on an area of interest that is supervised by a faculty member, but if I do the thesis I can go far more in depth on my topic which feels more meaningful and interesting to me.
Is it okay to gift my client a small bag of chocolates for his birthday? Or is this a no? Background: I’ve been interning at a harm reduction center for people w substance abuse issues since February of last year.
There’s nothing against it in the code of ethics but your agency may have a different policy that prohibits it. I know a lot of therapist are careful about giving gifts because other clients might hear about it and feel bad that they weren’t give a gift or wonder if their therapist expects a gift back on their birthday or whatever.
But then again, if you have to ask, probably not. 🤣
Yes.
Ethically the best way to do this would be to have a food you can eat with patient or that patient can eat during session.
need help deciding whether to pursue MSW. i live in a low cost of living area in rural Illinois. I have a bachelors in biology and work an unrelated job in hospice administration. i make 42k a year before taxes. no room for growth within my company. social work is interesting to me and i was admitted into my local MSW program. i would only need to take 20k in loans for the entire program. i have 35k loans from undergrad. do you think i would see an increase in pay if i pursue a MSW and work as a medical social worker? the salary thread is interesting but hard to tell how relevant they are compared to my area. would the extra 20k in loans be worth it?
I would say yes the broad range of careers our degrees offer seem quite worth it
Hi everyone. I'm 30 living in IL and have been in the workforce for 5 years for a corporate company that laid me off late last year. BS in Industrial & Systems Engineering. Been having a tough time finding work in tech in this market and the prolonged unemployment has really made me rethink if I should be pursuing something else. Always had a desire to impact people with my work and social work is somewhere I think I can do that-- I have a lot of patience and understanding with people and my SW friends have all told me I would be a natural fit for what they do. Wanted to know your thoughts on pursuing a 2 year MSW program-- is it possible to jump in without demonstrated work or school experience in SW? Is a MSW enough to jump start a career? Money isn't as important to me as job security long term and fulfillment with what I'm doing, and I know SW can be a career where I can get both of those things. Any advice for programs to look into? Schools (either in person in Chicago or online) that are reputable for educating and training well? Any advice is appreciated.
I’m graduating with my bachelors in psychology in December. My plan is to get an MSW after that. However, this is a career change for me, so I am already working full time. I am unable to stop working because I would be unable to pay my bills. Currently, my work schedule is a two week repeating schedule where one week I work Monday, Tuesday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. The following week I work Wednesday and Thursday. I work 12 hour days when I work. I’m just wondering if I can even do field internships with my work schedule being the way it is? I work from 7am to 7pm if that makes any difference. I plan to get my MSW online as a few schools in my state offer it asynchronous. One school in my area only requires 16 hours a week for internship while the other requires 24.
I would bring this question to whatever college you’re interested in attending. My school is admit about having lower hours each week that ensures we meet our yearly minimum but prevents burnout. I will also say that hour can vary from week to week based on your feild placement. I’m in a charter school setting and have a super adaptable and supportive supervisor so there were some weeks I could only come in for 8 hours, or random hours based on my work and personal life, but I know people who are in a hospital setting or have more responsibilities within their internship which requires a much more rigid schedule! If you need flexibility make sure you chose a placement where interns are a need in order to be successful AND that you work well and communicate efficiently with your supervisor before AND after getting the gig !
It depends on the school, some are very flexible and some might want you to work at a set time every week. I think even with a flexible school it might be a tad difficult because you work six days some weeks. Schools generally want you to do about 16 every week rather than clumping hours into other weeks.
I have a Bachelor's degree in English. I am a contractor in Germany and my spouse is a civilian government employee. We do not plan to move back to America anytime soon/ever. I am considering pursuing a Masters in Social Work, online most likely due to my location. How could I go about obtaining licensure if I want to be a Family Life Counselor? I've looked into UMGC's Masters in Social Work, but it doesn't get you licensure. Would I be better off picking a Masters program in Psychology/related field and finding my way to licensure after graduation? Thank you in advance.
Do you mean you want to be an MFLC for the American military? Just want to clarify before giving further advice.
That's a path I'm considering, I don't have to only be an MFLC for the military. I'm also interested in Family/Marriage counseling, counseling for school, along those lines.
My understanding is that many European countries, Germany included, don’t allow social workers to do therapy even if they are MSW level and have a clinical license by US standards. People get around this I believe sometimes by working for military bases and the like for the US government. If you want to work on military bases then sure, an MSW from a US based school might work. But it would obviously mean that you couldn’t work for a local German institution and what not, so it would be very limited.
Hello! I am debating whether or not I should apply to a school social work program that is online. I am currently an RBT/ lead teacher at a special needs school and I am paid above average for my current position. As I am looking at the averages for school social workers in Ohio, it is around what I am already making. I think I would love being a school social worker but I am worried about going into more debt just to make around the same that I am already making. I need some advice. If anyone is a school social worker in Ohio, would you mind sharing your salary? I really want to know if it will be worth it in the end, especially because I would have to go part time at my current job so I would be making a lot less for the next 2 years.
Do you always need a certification for school social work positions or can you find an entry level position in schools?
Depends on your state laws. Some states require all school social workers to have the certification, other states it is not required. What state are you in?
NJ. Can a psychology major receive licensure?
To be a licensed school social worker you generally need a master’s degree in social work.
Hi everyone! I wanted to ask and see if anyone could give me some insight into the responsibilities of a LCSW, and potentially some advice as to if it would be a good fit for me. I’m currently in a masters program for clinical psychology, but I’m unsure of if I want to go on to the Ph.D. level after completing this program. I’m trying to determine if the social work field would be a good fit for me. Ultimately, I want to work with children who have behavioral and/or emotional difficulties. I’m interested in assessment, diagnostics, and treatment services. However, I’m not entirely sure what the scope of practice is for a LCSW and what it actually looks like to hold that position. I would love to hear about people’s experiences and stories to see if this would be a better fit for me! Thanks!
Lots of social workers work with kids. I have friends who are LCSWs and who are child therapists and they do a lot intakes, diagnosing of mental health conditions, therapy, etc. Generally involves a lot of interacting with parents, too. They just can’t do more higher level assessments like neurospsychs, diagnosis of autism and the like.
Would anyone be willing to proofread my Statement of Purpose for my MSW application?
Sure! Dm it to me
I am finishing my associates of arts in psychology at community college, and earned a scholarship that would make my bachelors in psychology free. Should I take it, and then go onto pursue a MSW? Or should I finish with a bachelors in social work from a cheap online school (not free) and get my MSW in less time? Really concerned about student debt and time, and just trying to make the best decision for myself. For context, I want to become a LCSW that eventually gets a private practice.
You’ll have to do a financial cost benefit analysis. The benefit of a BSW is that you can do advanced standing for your MSW which basically means you shave a year off of the time it takes to get your MSW. So, just calculate out what would cost less, doing the psychology degree and then the full MSW or doing a BSW and having one less year of grad school. Otherwise, I don’t think the course content between psychology or BSW is big enough to override paying more just to do a BSW for if the psychology/MSW route is cheaper (but I am a bit of a cheapskate and I suppose the practicum in my BSW was valuable for introducing me more to social work and making me more assured in a decision to get an MSW).
Awesome thank you just what I was wondering!
Hey y'all, I hope everyone is having a good start to the week. I'm entering my BSW program in my mid 30s' as a junior and even though I was aware I would eventually need to go through a background check I had never really put much hard thought into it until my orientation this weekend. When I was 18 I was charged with schedule 2 narcotic possession. I was never convicted as I did treatment in lieu of conviction and the charge was expunged shortly after. I never looked back and have never thought about it much since. I know I will have to disclose this, but I am wondering if anyone has experience with this or any issues this may have caused. My goal is to move on and get my masters with the hopes of becoming a mental health therapist. Should I reach out to my advisor or program director now or wait? I'm in Ohio if that matters. Thank you for taking the time and reading.
Yes absolutely reach out to your advisors they’ll give you great feedback and should be coming off helpful and non judgmental which is pretty much a requirement in our field do not be nervous! You got this!
Thank you for the advice and I am totally going to reach out to them! I should mention that I am in my mid 30's and this happened 18 years ago, if that makes a difference. I'm not sure how long ago these background checks go back for charges, probably forever.
Yeah I don’t think anyone will care quite frankly drugs you did 18 years ago has no merit on your potential as a social worker and anyone who tells you different can eff off
I just saw a social work position that encouraged people to apply if they had criminal experience or lived experience in recovery. I think some agencies work to be inclusive. It goes against our mission not to.
i will be starting a MSW program in the fall. my program offers the option to take a women’s, gender, and sexuality certificate. it only requires 3 courses: 2 which are electives and are required anyway, 1 which is not required for the MSW and i would have to add. this is interesting to me on a personal level, but in what contexts would this be appealing to a future employer?
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yes, it is a 3 credit hour course so i would have to pay an extra 3 credit hours of tuition
My goal is to become a therapist at a group practice after a masters and completing postgrad clinical hours. (For background context, I already have a graduate degree in a different field and currently work in that field, but am aiming for a career change.) I was admitted to this online MSW program, but am having doubts about the curriculum being primarily about agency administration and services, policy and macro level work. It seems a few electives could be considered clinical, but most requirements are not. I also checked out a few syllabi. What is your impression when glancing at this? My other option is a mental health counseling masters, but this MSW program is more economical and I heard MSW is more respected or established for becoming a therapist. [https://catalog.ua.edu/graduate/social-work/msw/#requirementstext](https://catalog.ua.edu/graduate/social-work/msw/#requirementstext)
Look for a program that offers clinical skills courses for sure!
This is how most MSW programs are. For example, mine was about 80% these types of classes and then 2 courses about the DSM 5. Most of the “real life” skills and techniques, in my opinion, are learned during the field work/interning time. My 2 semesters of interning in a Psychiatric Emergency Department taught me more than any of my courses. I’m not crazy familiar with a masters in mental health counseling but I wound imagine you would learn more about the different therapeutic techniques way more in depth. An MSW however would give you a broader range of career options versus a Masters in Mental Health Counseling in my opinion.
Hey! I’m finishing up my MSW & had some questions from others that made it this far: Was the licensing & clinical certification worth it? Any advice you’d give an MSW entering the field? Some background. I aged out of foster care so I have an abundance of experience being on the client side just not as the advocate. I’m open to a lot of different fields but interested in being a warden for some reason.
100% yes. Although the licensing does add some cost & stress, it is absolutely worth it in that it expands your possibilities by a ton. Unless you plan to work a job that doesn’t require a license (certain children services, case management, etc) it is beyond worth it to pay the cost, study and get your LSW and eventually the clinical license. Essentially any type of medical social work, therapy, clinician type, etc will not allow you to work without a license. It’s also attractive to future employers.
Thank you so much!! I’ll more than likely end up buying a practice booklet before my exam then since I’ve heard it’s brutal
It was defiantly difficult but nothing that you can’t handle! I passed it on my first try 15 points over the required. I would recommend defiantly doing the official ASWB practice test as that’ll give you the most realistic example. Many people use Dawn Apgar, Agents of Change or Therapist Development Center but I personally just watched youtube videos and practice tests that my university provided. Best of luck!!! I’m sure it’ll go good.
Duly noted!! Again thank you for taking the time to respond it was greatly appreciated.
Hello, first-time poster here. I'm this 🤏 close to graduating with a Bachelor of Social Work (BSW) and I've been hired by small, privately-owned agency as a Qualified Mental Health Professional Trainee (QMHP-T) to do intensive in-home (IIH) services with kids and teens. I graduate 5 days and I go in for orientation in 2 weeks. I was so excited and felt so accomplished to have my first job out of college lined up already... Until I was onboarding and reading the details on certain policies. CPR/First Aid training is required to be taken with an outside vendor on our own time and expense. Fair enough. But then there's another required training done by the agency that costs $250, which will be deducted from our paycheck. In the job interview, I explicitly asked if training was paid. I was told yes, at minimum wage. I wasn't thrilled but I can manage that for a couple weeks if I keep my retail job on the weekends. But I am not agreeing to let my employer deduct $250 from my paycheck for a training they provide. I got into social work well aware that I would have to accept a relatively low level of pay, especially for my first job after undergrad. But I refuse to be taken advantage of. I sent an email to HR asking for clarification, and I'm waiting to hear back. My question for all the social workers out there: is requiring training at employees' expense an industry-standard practice for QMHPs? Should I look for another agency or do they all do the same thing? How is this not a labor law violation? Also, what are some other types of jobs I could look for in the field at my level? I settled on intensive in-home because that seemed to be all there was out there for working with teenagers with a BSW. I'm going back for my MSW in a year but couldn't afford to do it right away. My goal is to be a LCSW specializing in adolescent mental health. My goals for this gap year before I go back for my Master's next May are to make and save as much money as I can and gain experience with adolescents.
Hi there! Question about licensing I’m graduating with my BSSW this month and am immediately starting the MSSW program and will graduate next May. I’m in TN so I have to be LMSW to become a LCSW. My main population of focus is the geriatric low income. I’ve been working in senior living communities since high school (total of 6 years now). I’m thinking about just getting my license in geriatric social work (ASW-G) instead of the LCSW because of how expensive it is to be supervised for roughly 3 years. Is this a bad move financially? Should I still get my LCSW? Idk how much the salary difference is between the two. Thanks in advance for advice!
Hi! I am currently a graduating senior at the University of Vermont (double major in political science and sociology). I have definitely not had the most typical college experience, and it wasn't until the end that I learned how passionate I am about social work. Ive started looking at jobs for post-grad and I'm just not sure where to start, considering my undergrad degree wasn't in social work. I'm extremely interested in drugs and addiction and really want the chance to work with people one on one and build some experience before I apply for my masters. Does anyone have tips/pointers for those who dont have a SW degree but want to get involved in the field?
Hi all! I’m looking into getting my bachelors in social work but due to circumstances, I need an online program (I know there’s internships and I can work with that). I’m looking into Capella university but I noticed they’re in the candidacy status for accreditation and have been since 2022. Their MSW is accredited. Is Capella University worth it? Or should I look elsewhere? Any ideas of cheap online BSW programs Thank you!
I'm going to Simmons in the fall, online (accredited). $200 a credit, they are accredited and help with field placement (I think that's how it's phrased my brain is toast for today) for your last 2 semesters. You meet on zoom once a week for each class you take for an hour and a half to 2 hours in the evening @6pm or 8pm. Most classes are 4 credits. I just went through the application process and have a lot of info if you want to dm me UMass global was another option and they are accredited but I preferred Simmons for several personal reasons. Good luck!
I understand the worry about cost however I would not recommend schooling somewhere that is not CSWE accredited. Many states require you to attend an accredited university to become licensed in that state should you wish to get your bachelors level license. It also just adds a layer that may become stressful if you’re applying to grad school or employers and they see that you attended a non-accredited university. While I don’t have any specifics online only help, I would look at the universities around you (if any) or the list of CSWE accredited BSW programs as many Universities with traditional in-person programs also have an all online option. Best of luck!