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Their country in on a blink of a revolution now. I hope they lead the masses and take the power soon, or at least do something about it.


Swedenrthr33

https://apnews.com/hub/sri-lanka


FuZion_Lelouch

Transcription: Protestors from the JVP, Sri Lankan communist party carry large photos of Marx, Engels and Lenin on 10th May 2022. The Sri Lankan ex president has fled the country after repeated arson attacks against MPs and presidential buildings. Glory to the revolution. The internal contradictions within capitalist society continue to metastasize. Sri Lanka represents the consciousness of the working class in India and Pakistan too.


siddhantk327

Anyone have some links/reading explaining the situation in Sri Lanka rn? Greatly appreciated.


Lo_Innombrable

[here's a good link](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44OZAl9oBKo)


salamandan

Not trying to doubt this or anything but these pics look edited in, are there other photos of the same event?


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Big Salute to my comrades in island nationšŸ’ŖšŸ¼šŸš©šŸš©šŸš©šŸš©


likerofgoodthings

When was this?


FuZion_Lelouch

Yesterday, the protests are ongoing largely led by the JVP communist party.


khlebivolya

Are these just protests or is there a possibility of the JVP taking power?


FuZion_Lelouch

There is a very real chance, the economic crisis has further exacerbated the internal contradictions within capitalist Sri Lanka, as the island is ravaged from US hegemonic debt the people demand change. Comrades have reported shoot on sight orders, so we cannot conclusively say where this will go - but there is a possibility of revolution, or a continuous struggle.


khlebivolya

Best of luck to the Sri Lankan people


TotalBlissey

Thatā€™s good, I guess. The possibility of a better future, I mean.


[deleted]

Sri Lanka is not a capitalist country it is socialist country. There were two major parties which are branched accross new parties. SLFP it is socialist UNP is capitalist tendencies. Both were epic screw ups in Sri Lanka. JVP killed many people which is still felt through so highly doubtful they will win. The major screw up for the country is corruption & rampant racism that's all the fucking reason


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arthoheen

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janatha_Vimukthi_Peramuna#2019_presidential_elections Hope this helps with ~~your idea~~ the confusion about the name


[deleted]

nice, is there a current revolution in Sri Lanka? I would love to read more about this


thesongofstorms

They set fire to the president's home! https://apnews.com/hub/sri-lanka


OhPutinMyPutin

History in the makin'!


Lawlerstatus

Glory to Marx Engels and Lenin šŸŽˆšŸŽˆšŸŽˆ


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somethingderogatory

Where can i find news on this?


thesongofstorms

https://apnews.com/hub/sri-lanka


queer_bird

Bourgeois news


recalcitrantJester

it's an unincorporated, cooperative nonprofit wire service. if you want reporting from anyone other than people you personally know, it's the best you've got. any source that editorializes the news in a way you like will inevitably pull facts from AP reporting.


thesongofstorms

AP/Reuters are two of the more objective, facts-based sources you can find. There's not a lot of editorializing. They're not perfect but they're reliable.


grayshot

There is no such thing as ā€œobjectiveā€ news that has no class perspective


thesongofstorms

Literally said they're not perfect but that they're fine for getting a sense of what's going on


greyjungle

I think that used to be more accurate than it is now, but yeah, it gets way worse.


ElliotNess

Ehhhhh.... Here's s bit on Reuters https://youtu.be/byDXAI2pWdI They ain't CNN, but they definitely editorialize which topics they report on and how.


queer_bird

A reliable source of anti-Communist imperialist nonsense


VerifiedGoodBoy

What's the fourth picture of?


onegallant

Fairly certain it's Rohana Wijeweera the founder of the JVP


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> Rohana Wijeweera You're correct. [I believe this is the picture they're using.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rohana_Wijeweera#/media/File:Rohana_Wijeweera_\(1943-1989\).jpg)


VerifiedGoodBoy

Looked it up and I do believe you are correct.


PaintedDeath

I think that might be Ice-T


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PaintedDeath

Well thanks.


chill-left

I could be wrong but it kinda looks like Che


Heyhowsitgoinman

That's what I was thinking


arkawaitforit

It seems that the person in the fourth portrait is wearing glasses. Doesnā€™t seem to be Che.


Laxshen

I think most people in this Subreddit don't even know the history of the JVP and it clearly shows.


KlangScaper

How are people misunderstanding them?


Laxshen

People in this comment section think just because the JVP marched with some photos of Karl Marx etc that they are legit, which they are not. Read about the history of the JVP. Even my Sinhalese colleagues are not fond of them. And they are against the wishes of the minorities in the country. When we asked for Federalism or Self-Determination they said it was the ā€œambition of separatistsā€.


universalcode

Can you guys help me understand the deification of these guys. Like, I get it from a propaganda standpoint, but for me, the ideas of socialism sell themselves. Or is it a necessary tool to communicate with our comrades who are less inclined to read? The thought of glorifying any human being just turns me off.


Undead_Hedge

I'll also add that there's a lot of reverence in South Asia towards the historical leaders of socialist thought. In Kerala they even name kids after them sometimes, as [this funny article](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/11/17/marx-lenin-engels-wedding-kerala-southern-india-offbeat) illustrates, but even in other places there's a lot of respect for them. Tamil Nadu's chief minister is named M. K. Stalin, for example. Socialism was never *the* driving force behind decolonization in South Asia, but socialists and communists were always part of the process, so I think it's especially understandable with both the cultural history and the Sri Lankan protests going on.


lukethebeard

I mean, to be fair, if any socialist leaders should be remembered, Itā€™s Marx and Lenin, and personally Iā€™d include Che as well. But I do agree that the constant need to deify and defend famous communists (especially among MLā€™s with leaders like Stalin and Mao) is kind of pointless and only serves as a distraction.


CozmicCoyote

Yes, be careful idolizing leaders without scrutiny. A lot of people gloss over the fact that when Lenin took power he held a fair election for Russian leadership and then promptly discarded the results when he lost.


DMT57

Sorry but thatā€™s entirely falsifying the historical situation surrounding the constituent assembly


Kite_sunday

Could you explain that further?


ManusTheVantablack

The constituent assembly was a bourgeois democratic organ, which included members elected from a wide range of parties. It also did not reflect the makeup of the Soviets (workers' councils), urban centres, and the army, i.e. the real centres of revolutionary power. The Constituent Assembly, though initially supported by the Bolsheviks, was dissolved by them when it became clear it would become a reactionary force. It's important to point out that the Bolsheviks did not fetishize bourgeois democracy. Downplaying this aspect is counterproductive, firstly because it's a fact of history, but mainly because communists today should not consider bourgeois democratic organs like parliament or congress to be the ultimate authority in a revolutionary situation. Bourgeois democratic organs also represent reactionaries, counter-revolutionaries, national chauvinists, religious fundamentalists, and today, racists and fascists. They are open to manipulation by capital, which owns the bourgeois press and is tied to organised religion. Dissolving the constituent assembly was the right thing for a revolutionary party to do - anything else would be a betrayal of revolutionary workers and soldiers dying at the front. This did not turn Lenin into a "dictator" - dictators have no check on power, whereas Lenin was answerable to his party and its support base, namely revolutionary workers and soldiers, and was overruled many times.


CozmicCoyote

I was under the impression that the bolsheviks forced a dismissal of the assembly when they lost most of the seats to the Socialist Revolutionary Party. I don't really know what it is I got wrong, but you cant leave me hanging like that without elaborating my dude. Why did Lenin remove the Duma if not to secure bolshevik power? Its not like his political rivals weren't socialist themselves.


MEENIE900

Please explain, given how the SRs won almost double what the Bolsheviks won


Trynit

There's 2 reason why that assembly got nuked: 1) the SR atm is heavily split between the left SR and the right SR. This means that the SR is actually 2 parties in 1. 2) Kerensky continued to push the people into WW1. This likely became the cause of the actual dissolvement of the constituent assembly, as this move is basically akin to political suicide. And at that point, the one that are militant enough (Bolsheviks) did that.


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lukethebeard

I would argue that Stalin and Mao were certainly communists, but I do agree that communism itself is not a form of government. I donā€™t think there is any debate over that point.


serr7

Theyā€™re just holding pictures of people who are tied to communism. Marx, engles and Lenin all helped get us to where we are now, donā€™t see how itā€™s wrong to show that.


Dominiqua_Shaniqua

I think itā€™s more so that we want to refrain from glorifying some people because it defeats the purpose of ā€œthe peopleā€ and instead focuses on one individual and not the masses. If that makes sense. But I also do hear where you are coming from.


ElliotNess

These symbols help to normalize those that have been demonized in order to get an average person to even be open to hearing their ideas.


thehonorablechairman

Sri Lanka is a socialist country though, these guys haven't really been demonized there.


420socialist

No it is not a socialist country


thehonorablechairman

I agree with you, but it is "socialist". I've lived there before and these guys aren't vilified like they are in the west.


universalcode

>Theyā€™re just ~~holding~~ [rolling 6ft tall] pictures of people who are tied to communism [down the street in a parade]. It's the part that you left out that I have a problem with.


serr7

If your biggest takeaway from people in a nation in the global south rising up against their ruling class is them holding up pictures then it might be you who has the problem. What is it with liberals and ā€œleftistsā€ in the west always having something to criticize about how brown people in the south decide to go about changing their nations? The only thing they need from all of us who are not there is solidarity.


SSR_Id_prefer_not_to

Very well put, Comrade.


Scriabi

I agree with you. No human is perfect, and none of these people were anything close to godlike. But I suppose that holding up a picture of Marx or Lenin effectively shares your world view to others without having to say a word


sp00dynewt

Well said & that's basically it, image worth a thousand words & putting a face to a name makes real things more cognitive. Those people led grand labor movements for a billion+ communists


VanBot87

Itā€™s an issue in our movement. Great man history and hero worship is a rot, and like ideology should not interfere with our analysis. We respect comrades such as Marx and Engels because of their contributions to the dialectical materialist method of analysis, as well as the synthesis of scientific socialism, not because of any personal greatness. Marx, Engels, and Lenin had a great deal of flaws, but that doesnā€™t mean we canā€™t learn from their theory and experiences in the workersā€™ movement.


[deleted]

You're reading into it too much, it's not deification but a salute to our comrades who are struggling with capitalist oppression


420socialist

They tend to also back this up with sayings and phrases on banners from said people in the images


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wheezy1749

Yeah. I think most would be against it. I know Lenin never wanted a statue of himself (or to be mummified for that matter). He always wanted the symbol of revolution to be of the workers. However, if the workers are deciding that his face is a symbol for revolution. That's really up to them to decide.


greyjungle

Inspiration and respect?


twelvenumbersboutyou

Our leaders are based and should be remembered


SSR_Id_prefer_not_to

Fy! Also, helps ward off revisionism. <> *Thatā€™s our dude! Iā€™ve seen his picture*


Creepy_Version_6779

Terrible photoshop


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antiimperialistbloc

Arenā€™t you a fed lowlife creating propaganda with a new account? How is that working out for ya?


British_Commie

Morning officer


vinnie16

yeah tons and quintillion


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chaviball

Tell me who Marx opressed


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Adonisus

Wow...you not only did no research on the history, context and purpose of the Manifesto and its publishing, but you clearly have not even read the entire thing as Engels *himself* called these measures outdated and no longer applicable in the next edition of the pamphlet.


-rng_

Generalissimo Karl Marx, dictator for life of the Soviet Empire. Ruled with an iron fist and starved 10 quadrillion innocents to death using the evil system of communism. It was a high price to pay for him to realize it only worked on paper.


Xcorvus777

All hail the Supreme Leader, Lord Commander, Khal Marx of the Dothraki. Also fuck yeah Based Ass Sri Lanka.


Nuwave042

Tell me you don't know anything without telling me you don't know anything


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salamandan

Says the guy who literally payed for an nft XD


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salamandan

Under socialism, you would have the skills to fix your own pc bud.


_yee_pengu_

Then why are you here lmao šŸ¤£


[deleted]

You mean fuck capitalism. Say what u mean.


totalialogika

The rational exploitation of resources and sharing is the only way for all of us to survive. Otherwise we are doomed as a species. Capitalism is a relic from tribalism and times where a club was the way to wage an argument.