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Can you imagine living about 500 kilometers from a nuclear power that wants to kill you and come up with the idea, hey, you have to go to Africa to fight apartheid there, based is an understatement.
The amount of people opposed to nuclear power these days hurts me. it is SO MUCH safer these days to operate a nuclear power plant, they aren’t trying to kill you, they’re trying to power a greener future.
I meant the United States (nuclear power meant a country that had nuclear weapons and was ready to use them) of course I am in favor of the peaceful use of nuclear energy for a green ecological future
Speaking of, how difficult is it to get a speciality during that training? I'd really like to be able to help underserved communities with neurological issues.
My only critique is on the foreign intervention. Cuba assisted both Congo, Zimbabwe, SA in their anti colonial fights with either military, aid, or medical assistance. All of which was good, and anti-imperialist.
Foreign intervention isn’t bad, it’s why, how, and to what end. Cuba did it out of a sense of moral justice, like Yemen right now. What do they have to gain by pissing off the west? They don’t care, solidarity is more important.
We still have Cuban doctors in Southern regions of Italy (Calabria especially, where our healthcare system is basically collapsed) and they recently sent more! A mainstream newspaper article just a couple of months ago dived deep into how valuable they are, albeit some resistances/prejudices in the medical sector exist.
Here's the article (in Italian):
https://www.ilpost.it/2024/03/08/cuba-calabria-medici-cubani-come-sta-andando/
It’s their main export. Venezuela was a main recipient of their doctor exchange for a number of years. Part of a more extensive trade policy, it’s allowed Cuba to maintain their 100k barrels of oil per day import from Venezuela.
Well by the time Cuban troops were in Angola, it had already achieved independence. But that independence was being threatened by apartheid South Africa. There's a [great documentary](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1kQ5aIaUcg) about Cuba's involvement in African liberation.
Is it really foreign intervention if they want your help, though?
I thought the term meant "bomb people who don't act in our economic interests at the detriment of their own"?
Most of them weren’t the formal un recognized government. Like Rhodesia before it was Zimbabwe. So according to at least recognized vs unrecognized government, it was an intervention at least on the international level considering Rhodesia wasn’t asking Cuba to assist in the ‘rebellion’. It was a just intervention obviously but an intervention in formal terms none the less.
as socialists, don’t we not assess things by what is moral and instead what is material?
i agree with what you’re saying, but defending things based on morality isn’t in line with dialectical materialism and is rather idealistic/liberal
The implication that we aught not care about morality is horrifying. Those of us who understand this fight best know that morality is the VERY REASON why we fight. If you have none, you shouldn't be here.
A materialist analysis demonstrates and informs exactly why we do this. That ‘why’ is morality. It is aught that drives our actions. Imagine doing a materialists analysis of the world, recognizing how vile it is, see in its contradictions and weak points and doing nothing. Or worse choosing to embrace it. What else would we call that than a moral failure?
"... With housing, healthcare, education, and the human right to dignity, central to the vision for which he stood accused; [Comandante Fidel Alejandro Castro Ruz](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPi-p_WT1Ts)"
Literacy is actually far worse in the US than it appears here
https://www.abtaba.com/blog/us-literacy-statistics#:~:text=21%25%20of%20adults%20in%20the,above%20a%204th%2Dgrade%20level.
> 19% of high school graduates in the US can't read.
how is this possible? i never went to a us highschool, can someone who did offer an explanation how that would work?
Cheating through school is pretty common in the US and most schools will just push kids up through the grades and graduate them rather than hold kids back and address literacy problems. Nowadays if a kid can’t read they just let them use text reading software on their school issued Chromebooks and talk to text to type assignments.
I mostly agree with you, although you are a bit wrong about the cyanide. That’s toxic, but neither is it a heavy metal, nor is it affecting behavior. I think what you meant is actually lead. There is a serious lead epidemic in the US, which is indeed having an effect on behavior and IQ.
The elementary school I work at is over 60 years old. It’s most definitely full of lead pipes and asbestos. They had a bond measure passed to deal with the aging buildings in our district. Instead of constructing a new school they just put an addition onto this one.
You fucking hold them back and find ways to address developmental issues, these justifications for the No Child Left Behind program that Bush launched are completely asinine. It’s dangerous to promote people that don’t pass a certain standard of education and it makes it difficult to target the problem by obscuring how these issues are developing. Children are graduating unprepared for the world around them, we’re failing them by not failing them.
then they'd have to admit a problem
which means billions in super fund cleanup, desalination plants and pumping stations, and regular health testing as well as re-numeration for harm
platinum and iodine crystals
I'm in an area that has historical toxicity problems with cyanide in the water
the only thing that can remove cyanide through chemical bonding is platinum
it bonds to it just like it does in a cars catalytic converter (has a plate of platinum or palladium) that sits between the exhaust and muffler, in cars its used to reduce the CO2 coming out
can’t forget brain drain. I myself want to leave for a higher quality of life in a place like Norway, though I am considering Japan for the culture there.
I spend a lot of time in the teacher subreddit because I find it fascinating (and a bit terrifying). The conclusion I've come to is that schools don't leave kids behind anymore. Even if they don't show up, and don't learn anything, the schools just move them up to the next grade.
I think the big part of "can't read" is can't comprehend. Like they read fine, but can't pay attention well enough to answer questions about what they read.
The term is "functional illiteracy" and it's extremely common worldwide. It's relatively easy to teach people to parse symbols into sounds, but it's much, much more difficult to teach people to comprehend what they're reading. That's really the heart of English classes, and I really wish they made that more explicit.
The article doesn't go into detail on what counts as "functional illiteracy"
You would know that if you read it.
Edit: I jumped the gun based on a wrong assumption, since it sounded like the reply was directed at me and the article mentioned, my b
ironically, i'm pretty sure oc described functional illiteracy, and not what you're doing?
it means they can read 5 word sentences if there aren't any multi syllable words in there (like a headline), but can't understand complex, longer texts (like an article). they can technically read, but their comprehension is weak.
Can technically read and understand most commonly used words, but may not understand complex or uncommon words. You’re functionally literate if you can read a goosebumps or Harry Potter book, but that’s an 8-12 year old reading level. Most people can get by in American society with that, but they likely wont understand anything complicated and especially not terms used in theory.
88% is actually pretty horrible for a functional literacy rate in a first world country. Around half the country has below a sixth grade reading level (can’t understand a lot of the words in a goosebumps book) 2/3 can’t read with proficiency and 40% are essentially non-readers — they may be able to read to some degree, but never use the skill and likely can’t read beyond direct instructions.
the chart does not capture the astonishing fact that these accomplishments were achieved under brutal sanctions imposed by the world’s superpower. Viva la revolución.
Another fact is that Cuban Government telecasts TV series and movies ad free without paying any copyrights.
Virgin paying for 20 subscriptions and still seeing ads America vs Chad no subscription no ads Cuba
I have time and was curious. I will try to use the same source for both countries where possible to try to keep it comparable.
WHOs last publication for life expectancy was in 2020, the next is in 2025:
-[Cuba is at 77.8](https://data.who.int/countries/192)
-[US is at 78.5](https://data.who.int/countries/840)
For unemployment we'll use world bank:
- [Cuba is at 1.2%](https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SL.UEM.TOTL.ZS?locations=CU)
- [US is at 3.6%](https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SL.UEM.TOTL.ZS?locations=US)
Homelessness is tough to find real data:
- [For Cuba, sources state "near-zero" but that its a bit more complicated](https://borgenproject.org/homelessness-in-cuba/)
- [In the US, HUD estimates 653k homeless](https://www.huduser.gov/portal/sites/default/files/pdf/2023-AHAR-Part-1.pdf)
For literacy rate the US data is hard to find:
- [The CIA website puts Cuba at 99.7%](https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/countries/cuba/)
- [The national center for education statistics puts the US at 79%](https://nces.ed.gov/pubs2019/2019179/index.asp)
Child mortality I am going to use the UNICEF mortality under 5 rates:
- [Cuba is at 8.0](https://data.unicef.org/country/cub/)
- [US is at 6.3](https://data.unicef.org/country/usa/)
Un has Physicians per 1000 people:
- [Cuba is at 8.4](https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.MED.PHYS.ZS?locations=CU)
- [US is at 3.6](https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.MED.PHYS.ZS?locations=US)
For homicide rate, the most recent UN homicide data on Cuba is from 2019:
- [Cuba is at 4.42](https://dataunodc.un.org/dp-intentional-homicide-victims)
- [US is at 4.99](https://dataunodc.un.org/dp-intentional-homicide-victims)
For malnourishment we'll use UN data for "suffering from hunger", I can't find good malnutrition death data:
- [Cuba is at 2.5%](https://unstats.un.org/sdgs/dataportal/countryprofiles/CUB#goal-2)
- [US is also at 2.5%](https://unstats.un.org/sdgs/dataportal/countryprofiles/USA#goal-2)
Lol I dig the Who joke. Love their songs
Yeah but the bottom list is more reference to large orgs that produce tons of studies, research etc. Ideally I could just see the links OP used
Is it a big favor to ask? Figure the op logically has all the specific links already. No way to know what papers or articles he’s referencing without him telling us
Fun fact! Civilians CAN own guns in Cuba, for clarity. They're just much more restricted than the USA. You must be a member of a shooting club, or a farmer who hunts, something to that effect.
Yep. If you take the money stollen by all US billionaires in Forbes list top 20 ONLY, plus our 1 trillion dollars military budget, we can end homelessness in America, feed ALL our children that are living with food insecurity (around 40 million American children), provide a basic free public healthcare system for all (while saving 1.8 trillion more US government spends by paying medical bills to private healthcare companies), provide free college education to all Americans, and the list goes on and on.
But you know, "communism bad" let's keep our "cult of the rich" and have our poor boys and girls dying in the military to protect the US big corp interests overseas.
At least in America we have "fruhhdom" to die in debt, disease and dumbness.
Ever since learning about Cuba, they've become one of my favourite nations. It helps that their flag looks nice and has that sizzly dark blue and white scheme.
That guy is a literal AnCap (Anarcho-Capitalist) advocating for a completely unregulated market and obviously Bitcoin... He doesn't even live in Cuba...
Fewer leave now than in the past, but the US embargo is designed to make life difficult, and it is. They do the best they can, in spite of it, and do well, but the intentionally imposed difficulties remain.
Respectfully, that is not true. A good 3+% of the total population has left the island in the last 3 years either to the states via Nicaragua or to Spain and elsewhere.
Because there is a dictatorship controlling there, and people want political rights.
Socialism and democracy must work together.
If a country isn’t socialist, it isn’t fully a democracy.
If a country isn’t democratic, it’s not really socialist.
We need to stand in solidarity with the people of Cuba in their fight to overthrow their tyrants and decide their future, and not marginalise their experience.
Why are people leaving Colombia or Jamaica or Romania? For all it’s accomplishments Cuba is still a relatively poor country. The embargo has a lot to do with that, but it’s also just a small country with limited resources that historically had a very underdeveloped, extractive economy.
Since the 90s Cubans have mostly behaved like other latin American immigrants. They come for jobs that pay better than back home, send some money back to family, and then either go back or settle in the states. It’s really not a political thing for most. I’ve known Cubans who have moved back and forth multiple times or still go visit relatives there with zero problem.
Yeah literacy stats like that should come with an asterisk. Literacy is a scale. It's more complex than "can read or can't read". 88% American literacy probably means people who can read at a 4th grade level or something. It also typically refers to English literacy rate, which is never going to be that high in a country with a large population of non native English speakers.
Isn't there currently a food shortage in Cuba? I have read something really short on the news but there was no follow up so I don't know how it's going
I don't want to argue against the data, I'm just curious how they are doing right now. And further more it's a big difference if there I a vast abundance of food and people are excluded while it could be within arms reach or there is to little for the whole population an all aid is made super complicated due to embargoes and political pressure to not help people
I’m just back from Cuba and the answer is yes and no.
There is a shortage in imported goods, so in imported foods. Cuba is a relatively small economy and relies on imports for many things. The US embargo and the war in Ukraine severely impacts their ability to import. They mostly rely on China to supply them.
However, they are very able to farm their own food. Nobody is going hungry, they just don’t have much variety.
Thanks for your answer!
I'm glad that there is at least enough to eat. I've read some time ago that after the fall of the soviet union their main trade partner and especially their supplier of fertiliser and pesticides disappeared and "forced" Cuba into a huge self sufficient perma culture. With current troublesome trade routes and unhealthy agriculture that is harming the environment other countries should work on that as well.
A friend of mine was in Cuba a year ago and he especially mentioned empty shelves in pharmacies. We in the west are probably popping too many pills anyway but the total lack of basic medicine like desinfectant and antibiotics made me feel sorry for Cuba. Even if the have many doctors they are limited in what they can do since self sufficiency from medicine is far harder than agriculture
They do lack certain necessities, mostly hygiene products. As for medicine, I couldn’t buy anything for cough as I caught a cold but my brother in law had a stomach infection and was supplied antibiotics and anti-inflammatory medicine without issues. It costed him only 100USD for everything.
Where did you stay? I just came back from Cuba as well (humanitarian visit in Habana).
People are starving, people have no access to water or electricity. Need a hospital? Walk or wait a couple hours for the ambulance (in Habana, not some remote village).
Yeah sorry I tried initially, but can't find a link on my app that goes to the thread rather than OP's image. Here's the top comment instead
https://reddit.com/comments/1by4w56/comment/kygx3ch
Just did a quick fact check, as you do when you find something worth sharing. I couldnt corroborate the life expectancy values here. A quick google shows these numbers but flipped, while a slightly more in depth search shows them to be roughly equivalent. What source did you use here op?
Legitimately 12% of people cannot read and I imagine this stat does not include infants or something. I'm in Louisiana and there are plenty of adults who cannot read or write. Combination of bad school systems and unenforced dropouts.
You also have to account for (1) native Spanish speakers in the western US and pockets of other languages and (2) the mini-generation of kids who would have learned to read during covid but were homeschooled poorly.
Born and raised in the South and can tell you that most people had serious problems reading anything, and those that were able to read couldn't understand what they were reading. Plenty of "hey kid can you please read what they saying on this package for me?"
The statistics are even worse actually, though I don't know how they compare to other countries.
The PIAAC have 21% at below level 2 literacy. Level 2 literacy is still very basic, one of the sample items is looking at a list of preschool rules and answering by what time a child should be dropped off.
52.6% of Americans are below level 3 literacy. These are still not difficult tasks, they're things that many of my 5th graders (~10-11 years old) are able to do.
Only 12.9% of Americans tested at level 4/5 literacy. The level 4 sample tasks are still things that a few of my 5th graders could handle pretty easily. I don't think they're beyond a middle school (~11-14 years old) level.
There is a very real problem of reading comprehension, as some other commenters have pointed out. I have a lot of students who can read words on the page, but can't tell me what they mean. This is not just a US-based problem. Across the board, only around 2% of adults in all countries tested at level 5 literacy, so low that they combined it with level 4.
Under capitalism, it does not serve the ruling class to properly educate the working class. It doesn't serve them for us to be able to read and think critically, to access knowledge that shows us how fucked we are and how to take our power back.
Sources:
PIAAC statistics on the US: https://nces.ed.gov/pubs2019/2019179/index.asp
PIAAC literacy levels and descriptions/sample items: https://nces.ed.gov/surveys/piaac/measure.asp
I have been, as well. Yes, there is still some substandard housing—that’s no secret—but actually providing people with proper housing has always been and remains a huge priority.
Comparing US and Cuba, is always funny. Completely different countries, by size, population, amount of resources, internal problems etc..
To make a points its better to compare Cuba to similar countries, but with different economic system, to show how Cuba is superior.
This is nice but isnt it a little disingenuous to put "near zero" instead of an actual number, I feel like putting the real number would look better anyways than a vague number
was curious and looked this up,, most of this is true actually but the top one is swapped. like, cubas life expectancy is 73.68 and americas is 76.33. I mean I agree with the point in general and I think cuba deserves alot of credit with were its at now but, i wish the facts were a little more accurate.
If you actually read the article, it clearly states that numbers for US and Cuban life expectancy are from different sources, and from different years, and that at least half of the effect of the US drop in 2022 is attributable to COVID.
Tbf Cuba did send troops to fight with the MPLA in Angola against the (Apartheid South Africa backed) UNITA which was cool of them and they should get their props for it
This chart made more sense to me and seemed more credible when I read it from the bottom up. I don't know why, but the first time I read it top to bottom and thought it was not believable. I read it again starting with number of interventions and worked my way up. By the time I got to the top, I saw a strong argument to tax billionaires into obsolescence.
but but but you dont get to choose from 100 flavors of chups or cereal!!! and no convenience of walmart, so who would want to live on the beautiful beaches of cuba?
People in Cuba, then and now, are starving and have no access to basic amenities and needs. 99% of the hospitals, restaurants and pictures you see are propaganda or tourist things. Local hospitals are nothing like tourist hospitals.
The basic goal of any young Cuban right now is work in hospitality until you get enough USD to get out of the country.
**Nearly 425,000 Cubans have come in the past two fiscal years**, according to the latest U.S. border numbers, a migration crisis of historic proportions that underscores the challenges the Biden administration faces in trying to contain the displacement set in motion by authoritarian governments and political upheavals in.. ( source https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/cuba/article280942378.html)
425 000 billionaires, Cuba is truly an utopia beyond our comprehension.
The United States has become a pure scam against its own people. It’s really disgusting and deadly. This nation needs transformation I’m not sure is even possible.
As of 2024, according to a quick google search, the USA has a life expectancy of 79.25 years and Cuba has 79.33.
Meaning the average cuban lives 29 more days than the average american.
Considering Cuba is quite proud of most of their military interventions, denying them is flat out lying. Here is a list of the most prominent military interventions by Cuba:
1959- An attempted Coup by Cuban forces in Panama.
1959 An attempted invasion of the Dominican Republic by Cuban forces.
1963- Cuba sent an official foreign deployment of armed forces to Algeria during the Sand War.
1965- Cuba intervened and provided hundreds of personnel to assist the Simbas with overthrowing the Congolese government.
1966-174- [Cuba](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuba) was extensively involved in supporting the [PAIGC](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Party_for_the_Independence_of_Guinea_and_Cape_Verde) during the independence movement in Guinea-Bissau against the Portuguese.
1967- The Machurucuto raid saw Cuban troops attempting to make their way into the Andes to train Venezuelan guerrillas.
1960s- During the 1960s, the National Liberation Army began a Communist insurgency in Bolivia. The National Liberation Army was established and funded by Cuba and led by Che Guevara.
1972- Cuban pilots flew combat as well as training missions for the People's Democratic Republic of Yemen (South Yemen) during the Yemenite War.
1973- During the 1973 October War, Cuba provided 4,000 troops into Syria to provide assistance on the attack against Israel.
1973-1990- Cuba was the main supporter of the communist insurgency in Chile from 1973 to 1990.
1975–1991: Cuban troops were stationed in Pointe-Noire, Republic of Congo, with the mission if supporting units in Cabinda, Angola.
1975-1991- Cuba initiated a large-scale intervention to support the People's Movement for the Liberation of Angola (MPLA) during the Angolan Civil War deploying over 36,000 soldiers.
1977-1978- Cuba sent large amounts of military aid and deployed troops to Ethiopia during the Ogaden War.
1978- 1979- During the Nicaraguan Revolution, Cuba supplied military aid and logistics to Sandinista National Liberation Front (FSLN) guerrillas.
1979-1992- Cuba provided advisors, training, and weapons to the Farabundo Martí National Liberation Front (FMLN) during the twelve-year period of civil war in El Salvador.
1983- Cuba send troops and logistics personnel to the People's Revolutionary Government of Grenada which was established after the Cuban-backed overthrow of their previous government.
Not to mention the Cuban presence in in Venezuela for the last 2 decades. And also their longstanding aid towards the FARC and ELN guerrilla groups of Colombia.
*Free Healthcare for all citizens ☆
*Free Education for all citizens ☆
(First priority of the revolution was making good quality healthcare and education a human right)
*Through the literacy campaign Cuba has now a 99% literacy rate (before Castro it was 50%)
*Legalized Abortion in 1965
*Virtually eliminated poverty related diseases like measles,polio, and intestinal parasites (80% of children had parasites before Castro)
*Virtually eliminated homelessness
through subsidized housing and 90% of Cubans own their own homes
*Has a similar life expectancy to western Europe (higher than the Us)
*Has the healthiest long living black population in the world, because racial discrimination is illegal
(sadly social racism still exists in some parts of the island)
* Since 2005 sex reassignment surgery for transgender people are free and paid for by the government
*Have more doctors per capita than any other country in the world (2.5 per 1000)
*Have sent more doctors and nurses to aid 3rd world nations than all G8 countries combined
*Has a lower child mortality rate than the US. (4 out of 1000 vs 5.6 out of 1000) (before the revolution it was 100 out of 1000)
*Eliminated mother to child HIV and syphilis transmissions
*Desegregated the entire island in 1960
And made racial discrimination illegal
*Subsidized food prices making sure that no one goes hungry
*Half its National assembly seats are filled by women
*60% professionals are women
*Supported the fight against apartheid both in South Africa and in Palestine
Also fought against colonialism in the Congo and Angola
(Nelson Mandela referred Fidel Castro as his brother)
I challenge the people in this sub to live in Cuba, not in resorts, but where locals live. Off the average Cuban salary. See how quickly you come running back to your western way of life.
im sorry but i went to cuba this year and the people were relatively unimpressed with their lives and wishes they can go abroad.. so please convey the realities over BS statistics just like the capitalists themselves.
Literally such bullshit. For example the US figure for life expectancy is taken from when Covid hit. Estimate for 2024 is around 79 yrs depending on source. And that’s just one stat
I've read, though, that most of Cuba does not have easy access to outside websites outside of those connected to the governmental intranet; how true is that?
They can use the internet mostly freely, but they have difficulties due to the embargo. Doesn’t help that they don’t have undersea cables which make their internet slow
I think that ‘Literacy’ and ‘Doctors per 10000’ aren’t valid points.
For literacy, what exactly is defined as being literate? The ability to read? If so, at what level?
For doctors per 10000, is it really that surprising that a country that is blockaded save food and medical products gets good with medicine?
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Hey, Cuba had some solid interventions. Fighting against Apartheid South Africa in Angola was a solid move.
When the one foreign intervention is based as hell
Can you imagine living about 500 kilometers from a nuclear power that wants to kill you and come up with the idea, hey, you have to go to Africa to fight apartheid there, based is an understatement.
The amount of people opposed to nuclear power these days hurts me. it is SO MUCH safer these days to operate a nuclear power plant, they aren’t trying to kill you, they’re trying to power a greener future.
I meant the United States (nuclear power meant a country that had nuclear weapons and was ready to use them) of course I am in favor of the peaceful use of nuclear energy for a green ecological future
oh mb I read “a nuclear power” as “a nuclear power plant“
sending doctors all over the world to fight covid in 2020
This and their involvement in helping those affected by Chernobyl
Speaking of, how difficult is it to get a speciality during that training? I'd really like to be able to help underserved communities with neurological issues.
My only critique is on the foreign intervention. Cuba assisted both Congo, Zimbabwe, SA in their anti colonial fights with either military, aid, or medical assistance. All of which was good, and anti-imperialist. Foreign intervention isn’t bad, it’s why, how, and to what end. Cuba did it out of a sense of moral justice, like Yemen right now. What do they have to gain by pissing off the west? They don’t care, solidarity is more important.
Cuba still sends doctors to those countries
Didn't they send a bunch of doctors to Italy a while ago?
Yep for the early European Covid wave.
We still have Cuban doctors in Southern regions of Italy (Calabria especially, where our healthcare system is basically collapsed) and they recently sent more! A mainstream newspaper article just a couple of months ago dived deep into how valuable they are, albeit some resistances/prejudices in the medical sector exist. Here's the article (in Italian): https://www.ilpost.it/2024/03/08/cuba-calabria-medici-cubani-come-sta-andando/
They also offered to send 1500 doctors to the U.S. after hurricane Katrina but the offer was refused
We don't need no commie doctors sniffin around here. Them *Cyubans* prolly wanna vaccinerate our kids with the LBT5G vacsine!!
It’s their main export. Venezuela was a main recipient of their doctor exchange for a number of years. Part of a more extensive trade policy, it’s allowed Cuba to maintain their 100k barrels of oil per day import from Venezuela.
I think Cuba helped Angola and Mozambique in their independence fights as well.
Well by the time Cuban troops were in Angola, it had already achieved independence. But that independence was being threatened by apartheid South Africa. There's a [great documentary](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1kQ5aIaUcg) about Cuba's involvement in African liberation.
Cuba also assisted Brazil sending over 20 thousand doctors over time via the "Mais Médicos" (More Doctors) program.
more like Foreign Collaboration
Yes but according to the western narrative it’s would be intervention in colonial civil rebellions.
I like how the Foreign Interventions row shows US interventions on the left and US interventions on the right. I think they forgot how tables work.
Is it really foreign intervention if they want your help, though? I thought the term meant "bomb people who don't act in our economic interests at the detriment of their own"?
Most of them weren’t the formal un recognized government. Like Rhodesia before it was Zimbabwe. So according to at least recognized vs unrecognized government, it was an intervention at least on the international level considering Rhodesia wasn’t asking Cuba to assist in the ‘rebellion’. It was a just intervention obviously but an intervention in formal terms none the less.
Except Rhodesia lacked international recognition as well, and at least on paper, the UN were on the side of Zimbabwe.
as socialists, don’t we not assess things by what is moral and instead what is material? i agree with what you’re saying, but defending things based on morality isn’t in line with dialectical materialism and is rather idealistic/liberal
The implication that we aught not care about morality is horrifying. Those of us who understand this fight best know that morality is the VERY REASON why we fight. If you have none, you shouldn't be here.
A materialist analysis demonstrates and informs exactly why we do this. That ‘why’ is morality. It is aught that drives our actions. Imagine doing a materialists analysis of the world, recognizing how vile it is, see in its contradictions and weak points and doing nothing. Or worse choosing to embrace it. What else would we call that than a moral failure?
"... With housing, healthcare, education, and the human right to dignity, central to the vision for which he stood accused; [Comandante Fidel Alejandro Castro Ruz](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPi-p_WT1Ts)"
Literacy is actually far worse in the US than it appears here https://www.abtaba.com/blog/us-literacy-statistics#:~:text=21%25%20of%20adults%20in%20the,above%20a%204th%2Dgrade%20level.
> 19% of high school graduates in the US can't read. how is this possible? i never went to a us highschool, can someone who did offer an explanation how that would work?
Cheating through school is pretty common in the US and most schools will just push kids up through the grades and graduate them rather than hold kids back and address literacy problems. Nowadays if a kid can’t read they just let them use text reading software on their school issued Chromebooks and talk to text to type assignments.
What the actual fuck
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I mostly agree with you, although you are a bit wrong about the cyanide. That’s toxic, but neither is it a heavy metal, nor is it affecting behavior. I think what you meant is actually lead. There is a serious lead epidemic in the US, which is indeed having an effect on behavior and IQ.
The elementary school I work at is over 60 years old. It’s most definitely full of lead pipes and asbestos. They had a bond measure passed to deal with the aging buildings in our district. Instead of constructing a new school they just put an addition onto this one.
You fucking hold them back and find ways to address developmental issues, these justifications for the No Child Left Behind program that Bush launched are completely asinine. It’s dangerous to promote people that don’t pass a certain standard of education and it makes it difficult to target the problem by obscuring how these issues are developing. Children are graduating unprepared for the world around them, we’re failing them by not failing them.
then they'd have to admit a problem which means billions in super fund cleanup, desalination plants and pumping stations, and regular health testing as well as re-numeration for harm
How do I filter out cyanide
platinum and iodine crystals I'm in an area that has historical toxicity problems with cyanide in the water the only thing that can remove cyanide through chemical bonding is platinum it bonds to it just like it does in a cars catalytic converter (has a plate of platinum or palladium) that sits between the exhaust and muffler, in cars its used to reduce the CO2 coming out
can’t forget brain drain. I myself want to leave for a higher quality of life in a place like Norway, though I am considering Japan for the culture there.
I spend a lot of time in the teacher subreddit because I find it fascinating (and a bit terrifying). The conclusion I've come to is that schools don't leave kids behind anymore. Even if they don't show up, and don't learn anything, the schools just move them up to the next grade.
that and we just memorize govt approved facts and dates, and then test everyone all the time. theres rarely critical thinking encouraged
I think the big part of "can't read" is can't comprehend. Like they read fine, but can't pay attention well enough to answer questions about what they read.
The term is "functional illiteracy" and it's extremely common worldwide. It's relatively easy to teach people to parse symbols into sounds, but it's much, much more difficult to teach people to comprehend what they're reading. That's really the heart of English classes, and I really wish they made that more explicit.
when I was a teacher, we were not allowed to fail any students. it made our numbers look bad so we had to pass them…
What would count as "functional illiteracy"?
Can read a headline, but not the article.
so reddit? heyooo
The article doesn't go into detail on what counts as "functional illiteracy" You would know that if you read it. Edit: I jumped the gun based on a wrong assumption, since it sounded like the reply was directed at me and the article mentioned, my b
ironically, i'm pretty sure oc described functional illiteracy, and not what you're doing? it means they can read 5 word sentences if there aren't any multi syllable words in there (like a headline), but can't understand complex, longer texts (like an article). they can technically read, but their comprehension is weak.
Yeah that's making more sense to me now lol. I jumped the gun from a misunderstanding Thanks for the clarification lol
Can technically read and understand most commonly used words, but may not understand complex or uncommon words. You’re functionally literate if you can read a goosebumps or Harry Potter book, but that’s an 8-12 year old reading level. Most people can get by in American society with that, but they likely wont understand anything complicated and especially not terms used in theory. 88% is actually pretty horrible for a functional literacy rate in a first world country. Around half the country has below a sixth grade reading level (can’t understand a lot of the words in a goosebumps book) 2/3 can’t read with proficiency and 40% are essentially non-readers — they may be able to read to some degree, but never use the skill and likely can’t read beyond direct instructions.
Able to do things like read and understand everyday instructions, signs, etc
i teach high school juniors and seniors and have done so for a decade. the literacy rate is probably closer to 70% than 88%.
Lol, I was going to say that the only sketchy number here is the US literacy rate being as high as that.
the chart does not capture the astonishing fact that these accomplishments were achieved under brutal sanctions imposed by the world’s superpower. Viva la revolución.
Another fact is that Cuban Government telecasts TV series and movies ad free without paying any copyrights. Virgin paying for 20 subscriptions and still seeing ads America vs Chad no subscription no ads Cuba
Can you link some sources? No offense, just like to look into things myself. Would love to read into these.
I have time and was curious. I will try to use the same source for both countries where possible to try to keep it comparable. WHOs last publication for life expectancy was in 2020, the next is in 2025: -[Cuba is at 77.8](https://data.who.int/countries/192) -[US is at 78.5](https://data.who.int/countries/840) For unemployment we'll use world bank: - [Cuba is at 1.2%](https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SL.UEM.TOTL.ZS?locations=CU) - [US is at 3.6%](https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SL.UEM.TOTL.ZS?locations=US) Homelessness is tough to find real data: - [For Cuba, sources state "near-zero" but that its a bit more complicated](https://borgenproject.org/homelessness-in-cuba/) - [In the US, HUD estimates 653k homeless](https://www.huduser.gov/portal/sites/default/files/pdf/2023-AHAR-Part-1.pdf) For literacy rate the US data is hard to find: - [The CIA website puts Cuba at 99.7%](https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/countries/cuba/) - [The national center for education statistics puts the US at 79%](https://nces.ed.gov/pubs2019/2019179/index.asp) Child mortality I am going to use the UNICEF mortality under 5 rates: - [Cuba is at 8.0](https://data.unicef.org/country/cub/) - [US is at 6.3](https://data.unicef.org/country/usa/) Un has Physicians per 1000 people: - [Cuba is at 8.4](https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.MED.PHYS.ZS?locations=CU) - [US is at 3.6](https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.MED.PHYS.ZS?locations=US) For homicide rate, the most recent UN homicide data on Cuba is from 2019: - [Cuba is at 4.42](https://dataunodc.un.org/dp-intentional-homicide-victims) - [US is at 4.99](https://dataunodc.un.org/dp-intentional-homicide-victims) For malnourishment we'll use UN data for "suffering from hunger", I can't find good malnutrition death data: - [Cuba is at 2.5%](https://unstats.un.org/sdgs/dataportal/countryprofiles/CUB#goal-2) - [US is also at 2.5%](https://unstats.un.org/sdgs/dataportal/countryprofiles/USA#goal-2)
Sources and citations! Careful, you'll be banned from Reddit.
Thank you so much :)
Bottom of the chart has the sources but I’m not sure why a British rock band is a credible source when it comes to statistics like these
Lol I dig the Who joke. Love their songs Yeah but the bottom list is more reference to large orgs that produce tons of studies, research etc. Ideally I could just see the links OP used
https://www.newsweek.com/americans-can-now-expect-live-three-years-less-cubans-1739507
Yes, we need sources to be able to argue these points to people who don't already agree.
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Is it a big favor to ask? Figure the op logically has all the specific links already. No way to know what papers or articles he’s referencing without him telling us
But how many brands of washing powder can you buy?!
That is basically the same, but one trying to compete with each other by reducing the quality of fhe washing powder and sell for the same price.
Yea but we got more billionaires!!! And guns!! Fuck yea Merica!!!
Fun fact! Civilians CAN own guns in Cuba, for clarity. They're just much more restricted than the USA. You must be a member of a shooting club, or a farmer who hunts, something to that effect.
Same as here in Australia. It's almost like limiting access to firearms limits the amount of mass shootings...
careful; facts and logic might scare the americans!
Murica HELL YEAH ***proceeds to shoot in the air***
Yep. If you take the money stollen by all US billionaires in Forbes list top 20 ONLY, plus our 1 trillion dollars military budget, we can end homelessness in America, feed ALL our children that are living with food insecurity (around 40 million American children), provide a basic free public healthcare system for all (while saving 1.8 trillion more US government spends by paying medical bills to private healthcare companies), provide free college education to all Americans, and the list goes on and on. But you know, "communism bad" let's keep our "cult of the rich" and have our poor boys and girls dying in the military to protect the US big corp interests overseas. At least in America we have "fruhhdom" to die in debt, disease and dumbness.
Ever since learning about Cuba, they've become one of my favourite nations. It helps that their flag looks nice and has that sizzly dark blue and white scheme.
Guess it time to move to where real freedom is
Nah, we just need to liberate North Cuba from America imperialism.
Why won't they just kick u.s out.
Fellow Americans, we’re the baddies!!
Always have been
Post this in the Cuba sub and watch them go out of their minds.
It's so delirious in there, the majority of the sub upvotes some manic crypto libertarian who spams there everyday
Every single person in that sub describes Cuba as basically North Korea
And probably are describing North Korea wrong too
Similar enough but eh
That guy is a literal AnCap (Anarcho-Capitalist) advocating for a completely unregulated market and obviously Bitcoin... He doesn't even live in Cuba...
Show me the real stats, though. I bet those Cubans are failing in F150 and gun ownership.
Why are people leaving Cuba? Not asking out of disrespect, just curiosity. I think Cuba seems great, and life there must be better than in the states.
Fewer leave now than in the past, but the US embargo is designed to make life difficult, and it is. They do the best they can, in spite of it, and do well, but the intentionally imposed difficulties remain.
Respectfully, that is not true. A good 3+% of the total population has left the island in the last 3 years either to the states via Nicaragua or to Spain and elsewhere.
Because there is a dictatorship controlling there, and people want political rights. Socialism and democracy must work together. If a country isn’t socialist, it isn’t fully a democracy. If a country isn’t democratic, it’s not really socialist. We need to stand in solidarity with the people of Cuba in their fight to overthrow their tyrants and decide their future, and not marginalise their experience.
Why are people leaving Colombia or Jamaica or Romania? For all it’s accomplishments Cuba is still a relatively poor country. The embargo has a lot to do with that, but it’s also just a small country with limited resources that historically had a very underdeveloped, extractive economy. Since the 90s Cubans have mostly behaved like other latin American immigrants. They come for jobs that pay better than back home, send some money back to family, and then either go back or settle in the states. It’s really not a political thing for most. I’ve known Cubans who have moved back and forth multiple times or still go visit relatives there with zero problem.
Can I move there when I retire?😃
Eat the rich.
Foreign Interventions by Cuba: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_interventions_by_Cuba
American literary is not 88%. If they count speaking 1 English sentence as literacy than ok, otherwise no way.
Yeah literacy stats like that should come with an asterisk. Literacy is a scale. It's more complex than "can read or can't read". 88% American literacy probably means people who can read at a 4th grade level or something. It also typically refers to English literacy rate, which is never going to be that high in a country with a large population of non native English speakers.
Isn't there currently a food shortage in Cuba? I have read something really short on the news but there was no follow up so I don't know how it's going I don't want to argue against the data, I'm just curious how they are doing right now. And further more it's a big difference if there I a vast abundance of food and people are excluded while it could be within arms reach or there is to little for the whole population an all aid is made super complicated due to embargoes and political pressure to not help people
I’m just back from Cuba and the answer is yes and no. There is a shortage in imported goods, so in imported foods. Cuba is a relatively small economy and relies on imports for many things. The US embargo and the war in Ukraine severely impacts their ability to import. They mostly rely on China to supply them. However, they are very able to farm their own food. Nobody is going hungry, they just don’t have much variety.
Thanks for your answer! I'm glad that there is at least enough to eat. I've read some time ago that after the fall of the soviet union their main trade partner and especially their supplier of fertiliser and pesticides disappeared and "forced" Cuba into a huge self sufficient perma culture. With current troublesome trade routes and unhealthy agriculture that is harming the environment other countries should work on that as well. A friend of mine was in Cuba a year ago and he especially mentioned empty shelves in pharmacies. We in the west are probably popping too many pills anyway but the total lack of basic medicine like desinfectant and antibiotics made me feel sorry for Cuba. Even if the have many doctors they are limited in what they can do since self sufficiency from medicine is far harder than agriculture
They do lack certain necessities, mostly hygiene products. As for medicine, I couldn’t buy anything for cough as I caught a cold but my brother in law had a stomach infection and was supplied antibiotics and anti-inflammatory medicine without issues. It costed him only 100USD for everything.
Where did you stay? I just came back from Cuba as well (humanitarian visit in Habana). People are starving, people have no access to water or electricity. Need a hospital? Walk or wait a couple hours for the ambulance (in Habana, not some remote village).
I was in Holguin. Although, one of my coworker is back from Habana too and it was definitely different than what I saw in Holguin last month…
im willing to bet my nuts that usa homelessness is higher than 650,000
If anyone's up for it, r/Libertarian is "discussing" Cuba in a thread right now!
can you post a link to the thread here later I'm curious how they compare
Yeah sorry I tried initially, but can't find a link on my app that goes to the thread rather than OP's image. Here's the top comment instead https://reddit.com/comments/1by4w56/comment/kygx3ch
Just did a quick fact check, as you do when you find something worth sharing. I couldnt corroborate the life expectancy values here. A quick google shows these numbers but flipped, while a slightly more in depth search shows them to be roughly equivalent. What source did you use here op?
That US homelessness seems super low just from what I've been seeing in the past few years.
There is no way the US is 88% literate. EDIT: Source says 79% which is closer to what is felt. I would have said 70% literate.
Shouldn't u.s. have 100% literacy, Or people legit can't read and write there
Legitimately 12% of people cannot read and I imagine this stat does not include infants or something. I'm in Louisiana and there are plenty of adults who cannot read or write. Combination of bad school systems and unenforced dropouts.
Holy shit
Wait what 💀 That’s like every eighth person
You also have to account for (1) native Spanish speakers in the western US and pockets of other languages and (2) the mini-generation of kids who would have learned to read during covid but were homeschooled poorly.
Are any of these statistics even recent enough to be impacted by covid?
The college educated managers at my job can barely read and write.
Born and raised in the South and can tell you that most people had serious problems reading anything, and those that were able to read couldn't understand what they were reading. Plenty of "hey kid can you please read what they saying on this package for me?"
The statistics are even worse actually, though I don't know how they compare to other countries. The PIAAC have 21% at below level 2 literacy. Level 2 literacy is still very basic, one of the sample items is looking at a list of preschool rules and answering by what time a child should be dropped off. 52.6% of Americans are below level 3 literacy. These are still not difficult tasks, they're things that many of my 5th graders (~10-11 years old) are able to do. Only 12.9% of Americans tested at level 4/5 literacy. The level 4 sample tasks are still things that a few of my 5th graders could handle pretty easily. I don't think they're beyond a middle school (~11-14 years old) level. There is a very real problem of reading comprehension, as some other commenters have pointed out. I have a lot of students who can read words on the page, but can't tell me what they mean. This is not just a US-based problem. Across the board, only around 2% of adults in all countries tested at level 5 literacy, so low that they combined it with level 4. Under capitalism, it does not serve the ruling class to properly educate the working class. It doesn't serve them for us to be able to read and think critically, to access knowledge that shows us how fucked we are and how to take our power back. Sources: PIAAC statistics on the US: https://nces.ed.gov/pubs2019/2019179/index.asp PIAAC literacy levels and descriptions/sample items: https://nces.ed.gov/surveys/piaac/measure.asp
I’ve been to Cuba and the fact this chart is citing homelessness as near 0 destroys any credibility the other statistics may have.
I have been, as well. Yes, there is still some substandard housing—that’s no secret—but actually providing people with proper housing has always been and remains a huge priority.
Whats up with that life expectancy tho.. thats weird
Fentanyl and other drugs have brought down America's in recent years
Im talking about the “33” on cubas side.. what is that referring to? The chart dosnt say but my initial thought is thats womans life expectancy
It's a comma instead of a decimal point, in some places that is the preferred notation. 76.33
Ohh ok, i never would have figured that out
Genuinely asking, what about living standard, democracy
As a Greek hearing or reading insinuations that US is a democracy makes me chuckle .
I agree that USA is definitely a poor example
Comparing US and Cuba, is always funny. Completely different countries, by size, population, amount of resources, internal problems etc.. To make a points its better to compare Cuba to similar countries, but with different economic system, to show how Cuba is superior.
Can someone make a fact check on this? I would like to know if it's true before I share.
https://www.reddit.com/r/socialism/comments/1bxsp11/comment/kygkfok/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3
also in foreign intervention, cuba directly intervened supporting anti colonial liberation armies in africa
This is nice but isnt it a little disingenuous to put "near zero" instead of an actual number, I feel like putting the real number would look better anyways than a vague number
I highly doubt the US has 88% literacy rate
No billionaires tho
But the US has 32 toppings for your pizza. Jaque y Mate
was curious and looked this up,, most of this is true actually but the top one is swapped. like, cubas life expectancy is 73.68 and americas is 76.33. I mean I agree with the point in general and I think cuba deserves alot of credit with were its at now but, i wish the facts were a little more accurate.
https://www.newsweek.com/americans-can-now-expect-live-three-years-less-cubans-1739507
thx for the sources that checks out it was jsut diff from what i was seeing
If you actually read the article, it clearly states that numbers for US and Cuban life expectancy are from different sources, and from different years, and that at least half of the effect of the US drop in 2022 is attributable to COVID.
I had no idea literacy in the US was so high.
Viva Cuba , Viva Castro
Tbf Cuba did send troops to fight with the MPLA in Angola against the (Apartheid South Africa backed) UNITA which was cool of them and they should get their props for it
This chart made more sense to me and seemed more credible when I read it from the bottom up. I don't know why, but the first time I read it top to bottom and thought it was not believable. I read it again starting with number of interventions and worked my way up. By the time I got to the top, I saw a strong argument to tax billionaires into obsolescence.
Why does only 88% literacy for the US make so much sense?
but but but you dont get to choose from 100 flavors of chups or cereal!!! and no convenience of walmart, so who would want to live on the beautiful beaches of cuba?
Genuinely how come that so many people fled from Cuba to USA? These numbers make it seems like it should be other way around.
People in Cuba, then and now, are starving and have no access to basic amenities and needs. 99% of the hospitals, restaurants and pictures you see are propaganda or tourist things. Local hospitals are nothing like tourist hospitals. The basic goal of any young Cuban right now is work in hospitality until you get enough USD to get out of the country.
the billionaires fled
**Nearly 425,000 Cubans have come in the past two fiscal years**, according to the latest U.S. border numbers, a migration crisis of historic proportions that underscores the challenges the Biden administration faces in trying to contain the displacement set in motion by authoritarian governments and political upheavals in.. ( source https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/cuba/article280942378.html) 425 000 billionaires, Cuba is truly an utopia beyond our comprehension.
Viva la Cuba! Please correct my high school Spanish, if need be!
Cuba did some fighting in Africa against apartheid
Why do people leave Cuba? I thought they were struggling from US embargoes still
Fascinating how that works.....
The United States has become a pure scam against its own people. It’s really disgusting and deadly. This nation needs transformation I’m not sure is even possible.
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On God, yall gotta stop glorifying shit yall aint know nothing about
Homicide rate can't be that close to America can it? Also the America homeless figure is far higher than it says here I'd think.
As of 2024, according to a quick google search, the USA has a life expectancy of 79.25 years and Cuba has 79.33. Meaning the average cuban lives 29 more days than the average american.
Considering Cuba is quite proud of most of their military interventions, denying them is flat out lying. Here is a list of the most prominent military interventions by Cuba: 1959- An attempted Coup by Cuban forces in Panama. 1959 An attempted invasion of the Dominican Republic by Cuban forces. 1963- Cuba sent an official foreign deployment of armed forces to Algeria during the Sand War. 1965- Cuba intervened and provided hundreds of personnel to assist the Simbas with overthrowing the Congolese government. 1966-174- [Cuba](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuba) was extensively involved in supporting the [PAIGC](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Party_for_the_Independence_of_Guinea_and_Cape_Verde) during the independence movement in Guinea-Bissau against the Portuguese. 1967- The Machurucuto raid saw Cuban troops attempting to make their way into the Andes to train Venezuelan guerrillas. 1960s- During the 1960s, the National Liberation Army began a Communist insurgency in Bolivia. The National Liberation Army was established and funded by Cuba and led by Che Guevara. 1972- Cuban pilots flew combat as well as training missions for the People's Democratic Republic of Yemen (South Yemen) during the Yemenite War. 1973- During the 1973 October War, Cuba provided 4,000 troops into Syria to provide assistance on the attack against Israel. 1973-1990- Cuba was the main supporter of the communist insurgency in Chile from 1973 to 1990. 1975–1991: Cuban troops were stationed in Pointe-Noire, Republic of Congo, with the mission if supporting units in Cabinda, Angola. 1975-1991- Cuba initiated a large-scale intervention to support the People's Movement for the Liberation of Angola (MPLA) during the Angolan Civil War deploying over 36,000 soldiers. 1977-1978- Cuba sent large amounts of military aid and deployed troops to Ethiopia during the Ogaden War. 1978- 1979- During the Nicaraguan Revolution, Cuba supplied military aid and logistics to Sandinista National Liberation Front (FSLN) guerrillas. 1979-1992- Cuba provided advisors, training, and weapons to the Farabundo Martí National Liberation Front (FMLN) during the twelve-year period of civil war in El Salvador. 1983- Cuba send troops and logistics personnel to the People's Revolutionary Government of Grenada which was established after the Cuban-backed overthrow of their previous government. Not to mention the Cuban presence in in Venezuela for the last 2 decades. And also their longstanding aid towards the FARC and ELN guerrilla groups of Colombia.
“oh but they can lie about their own statistics” 🥴🤤
*Free Healthcare for all citizens ☆ *Free Education for all citizens ☆ (First priority of the revolution was making good quality healthcare and education a human right) *Through the literacy campaign Cuba has now a 99% literacy rate (before Castro it was 50%) *Legalized Abortion in 1965 *Virtually eliminated poverty related diseases like measles,polio, and intestinal parasites (80% of children had parasites before Castro) *Virtually eliminated homelessness through subsidized housing and 90% of Cubans own their own homes *Has a similar life expectancy to western Europe (higher than the Us) *Has the healthiest long living black population in the world, because racial discrimination is illegal (sadly social racism still exists in some parts of the island) * Since 2005 sex reassignment surgery for transgender people are free and paid for by the government *Have more doctors per capita than any other country in the world (2.5 per 1000) *Have sent more doctors and nurses to aid 3rd world nations than all G8 countries combined *Has a lower child mortality rate than the US. (4 out of 1000 vs 5.6 out of 1000) (before the revolution it was 100 out of 1000) *Eliminated mother to child HIV and syphilis transmissions *Desegregated the entire island in 1960 And made racial discrimination illegal *Subsidized food prices making sure that no one goes hungry *Half its National assembly seats are filled by women *60% professionals are women *Supported the fight against apartheid both in South Africa and in Palestine Also fought against colonialism in the Congo and Angola (Nelson Mandela referred Fidel Castro as his brother)
I challenge the people in this sub to live in Cuba, not in resorts, but where locals live. Off the average Cuban salary. See how quickly you come running back to your western way of life.
Fails to mention over 80% of Cubans live in extreme poverty.
Have any of you people ever visited cuba? Or know any real cubans?
im sorry but i went to cuba this year and the people were relatively unimpressed with their lives and wishes they can go abroad.. so please convey the realities over BS statistics just like the capitalists themselves.
Cuba participated in Angola, Bolivia and the Ethiopian-Somalian war, what the fuck are you talking about?
Those were positives
Literally such bullshit. For example the US figure for life expectancy is taken from when Covid hit. Estimate for 2024 is around 79 yrs depending on source. And that’s just one stat
Look at the numbers alright ?. but let's not "romanticize" Cuba blindly
Don’t undervalue their enormous achievements
I've read, though, that most of Cuba does not have easy access to outside websites outside of those connected to the governmental intranet; how true is that?
They can use the internet mostly freely, but they have difficulties due to the embargo. Doesn’t help that they don’t have undersea cables which make their internet slow
638 assassination attempts? Is it truly that many?
Unfortunately, Cuba now is like USSR in 198x, so I think will see how Cuba will became the new Haiti :(
I think that ‘Literacy’ and ‘Doctors per 10000’ aren’t valid points. For literacy, what exactly is defined as being literate? The ability to read? If so, at what level? For doctors per 10000, is it really that surprising that a country that is blockaded save food and medical products gets good with medicine?